Nintendo has a few minor flaws in their Nintendo Online service plan that need addressed sooner than later.
"Each of them even offers Cloud Storage with your membership, each of them also ensures that your data, your games, and the likes will remain as they are even if your subscription lapses." That is not true. Playstation only guarantees 6 months past your subscription ending. They make it seem like it's forever when it's not. Nintendo didn't even give a timeframe on how long after your saves would be guaranteed. But hey, let's take a lack of information and then somehow try to spin it... right?
Six months is longer than the instantaneous loss with Nintendo. Where’s the spin or lack of information? Nintendo even states it clearly on their UK FAQ. https://www.nintendo.co.uk/... “After my Nintendo Switch Online subscription expires, will my Save Data Cloud files and Nintendo Entertainment System – Nintendo Switch Online save data be erased? Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership. Nintendo Entertainment System – Nintendo Switch Online also uses the Save Data Cloud, so the same applies. However, if you keep the Nintendo Entertainment System – Nintendo Switch Online save data saved locally on your Nintendo Switch console, then you can use it again if you purchase another membership.”
yeah it's conflicting information. On the US support page it simply says that Nintendo cannot guarantee your cloud saves will be accessible beyond an unspecified amount of time past your subscription lapsing. Some firm details would definitely help, but sadly we are just assuming at this point.
Is it real? and consumers still support this!!! Fanboyisming is ruining the industry. We all love Nintendo its great family platform, but this is pure ****.
Locking cloud saves behind a subscription is absolutely pathetic these days, the same goes with Sony locking it behind PS+. It's such a basic feature.
but, you can use usb on ps to backup your saves as well...
@SegaGamer Cloud save offered with PS+ is an "option" to backup your saves as you can always backup your saves for as many times as you want if you have a flash drive or USB HDD connected to the PS4 without the need for any subscription. while on the Switch, they are taking ransom over your saves data because they don't allow offline backup to your own SD card. the only way you can backup your saves is by paying and THAT is not an "option", more like "mandatory"!
Beyond me how anyone can defend this. Regardless of price and using that as an excuse. This service is lacking BASIC features the Xbox 360 and PS3 offered. Delayed for a year? For what? More stability? Just update every month like Sony does lol
Not that I would defend it, but I see some benefit in securing capital if it means developing infrastructure. The online app is still a major flaw and the network is definitely a weakness rather than a strength right now. Be that as it may, I think-- or rather, I hope-- there is a rapid evolution of the service in the coming months to years.
Clearly Nintendo has no money or capital to develop online service I mean they are an indie publisher HEAVY /S Nintendo is not dumb they know exactly what they are doing. I mean come on both MS and Sony can do USB back ups! On top of that MS gives free cloud saves. Not to detract PSN 6 months my thing is, imagine you have your mindset to renew Nintendo yearly sub but you forget since you were doing life things. You log on and extend only to see your saves gone! From games you uninstalled for whatever reason quit using your ridiculous mental gymnastics and see it for what it is pure bull!
Blank, Didn't say they couldn't afford it, nor was it my intention to imply it. But I think you need to make some realistic considerations. Nintendo does not really need to invest too much of their current resources into the network, because it isn't going to become the go-to platform for online play. It just isn't. Smash, Splatoon, and Mario Kart are the games that will likely feature somewhat heavy traffic, but beyond that? People would rather use their Playstation and Xbox. I am quite convinced Nintendo's goal with Switch is to be a supplementary device with a solid software profile. Accordingly, there is less pressure for them to come out with something solid. I agree, the service isn't great. I'm also convinced it rolled out now to test waters and reliability before Smash releases. Can't have Smash online for free obviously. People will pay for it, if only for that. It's cheap, and I think that's intentional. Of course they know what they're doing. The lack of USB backups is noted. I'm sure they're paywalling for profit, and this is why they won't offer a rudimentary network for free on their current resources: that would involve reallocating funds. They don't do that if they can get new money coming in. And what better way than stopping you from backups and online play before Smash comes out? Anti consumer, sure. But ultimately, it's up to us to decide if we're going to buy into this. Regardless, I do feel that the network now will not be what the network will remain. I'm confident it will improve, though the voice chat thing is a serious setback. You call it ridiculous mental gymnastics, yet I clearly stated that it is not something I defend or condone. Read carefully. Assuming you are an adult, I don't know what you do for a living, but I can tell you that this reeks of organizational politics. I'll say this much: I was paying $50/yr for Plus for its other features since I'm not an online gamer. Good service, but I never cared to play online. On the other hand, Smash, Splatoon 2, and Crystal Chronicles are games I enjoy/ will enjoy online, but the service is a tough sell. I'd probably get it in monthly intervals here and there, so long as it's stable. The service isn't good, no dispute there. But like I said, I'm hopeful it'll get better. And I'll give it some thought later on. For now, it's a hard pass and a wait-and-see.
I don't even see myself paying to play games on Live or PSN (only RFoM remaster would make me pay for online play) that have 99.9% better online infrastruture than Nintendo's joke of a service. Shame on you Nintendo.
Switch online needs to be free
for the type of service they are providing right now, they should offer it as optional like PS+ on PS3 and Vita last gen. online MP and chat are free but if you want extra like the cloud save and NES (SNES?) games, you gotta pay. making it mandatory in its current form is literally CRIMINAL!
I dont like it after trying it tonight
So instead of it being "just $20", like the the shills keep saying, realistically, if you've got a family it's actually $35 as only the accounts with the subscription can go online... even on a single console... so for $25 less than the competition, we get: A worse service Laggy online NES games Screen burn ins 7 day check ins No discounts (or probably very few as I doubt Nintendo will do any big sales as they always keep their games at full price) No full games Voice chat done through a phone app (for which there are numerous better FREE services) Access to buy other peripherals that only work with the service (i.e. once your subscription is up they become absolutely useless) No way to back up our saves externally forcing us to... Finally get to use cloud saves but if your subscription runs out they'll delete them This list keeps growing and growing and it's getting quite ridiculous. But you know... "It's just $20..."... SMH
What's crazy is that there was a consensus at the Nintendo meeting where they thought this was a good idea.
Im guessing a shareholder meeting? Of course the shareholders love it.
Worth 5 dollars a year.
When the switch released last year, Nintendo didn't have their online infrastructure ready yer (that in of itself was a problem), then a YEAR later you release it and its piss poor and seems like you aren't getting much for 20 bucks a year. But it is 20 bucks a year, that tells me its not going to be on par with PSN and Live. Furthermore, if we all know anything about the cloud, for Nintendo to say that they cannot guarantee that your 3mb or LESS save file is not guaranteed, it rather insulting to me and other technologist. That kind of explanation give credence to how uninformed MOST people are these days, damn shame those kinds of folks eating this crap up. Nintendo dropped the ball on this as far as I am concerned.
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