CAPCOM: DMC5 is a By-Product of Fan Feedback; DmC Was Very Good, Too

CAPCOM executives revealed that DMC5 is a by-product of fan feedback after Ninja Theory's DmC, though they maintain that was very good, too.

[KaiPow]

After Bayo2, I'm sure fans want their character action games to be over the top and Capcom can certainly deliver on that!

[AK91]

Honestly speaking they always were I’m honestly not sure why Bayo 2 sold so well since it’s the least over the top product they’ve made.

[Cybermario]

glad to see they listen to the fans, more developers should do that instead of confronting them, but then again that is japanese devs for you.

[-Foxtrot]

Dmc was not good

It still puzzled the shit out of me how reviewers praised it so high when it was inferior to DMC4 with being a DMC game. Just found it funny out of all of the years it was being criticised journalists hardly got involved yet like a month before it came out, in December almost every big site started to defend it saying how good it was or how fans were wrong, so on. Always seemed strange in my opinion.

Anyway if it was fan feedback then wouldn’t Dante be the main, main lead in this. I can’t think of anyone who asked for Nero again.

DMC5 happened not because dmc wasn’t a direct sequel but because dmc was a crap DMC game

[Weeblordbad]

DmC was a fun game, it might not have been an exact "devil may cry" game but it was a FUN game. Also remember, a lot of people were telling you people you were wrong because you spent months having a shit fit over a character design. The criticism stemming from the gameplay was so lost in the noise of people complaining about Dante, it becomes incredibly hard for me to take any criticism of that game seriously. Like you can't be that deluded, can you? Maybe "journalists" started speaking highly of the game because that's when review copies started being sent out? Maybe it's because as a game there is absolutely ZERO wrong with it, and if it had been named any thing other than DMC none of this would have even come up.

Also to say a game is just straight up "inferior" to Backtrack May Cry 4 is a bit rich, different strokes for different folks man. You think it's great, which I can respect. I think it's eye gougingly boring, the characters are absolutely awful and still after 4 games I couldn't care less about the story. It's pretty bog standard anime fare. You like it, and I'm happy you do, I just hope DMC5 is better.

[-Foxtrot]

"Also remember, a lot of people were telling you people you were wrong because you spent months having a shit fit over a character design"

Stopped reading there

That is the same old boring counter argument people defending the game said when in reality it was A DOZEN THINGS more...not just "oh because of da hair lulz". The hair was like one thing of many that was wrong with this game but the more was revealed and the more they got in depth of the game people realised it faced way more issues that the "hair" thing was tiny in comparison.

So yeah maybe don't use a boring as counter argument next time to start a reply off.

[Poopmist]

I prefer DMC of Devil May Cry 4 tbh

[Lord_Sloth]

Are you saying that if it wasn't named Devil may Cry it wouldn't have been compared to other games with the same title in the franchise? WAAAAAAAAAAAT?! How unfair!!!!!!! ZOMG!!!!

[TheBritishOne]

DmC was a fun action game.

It's problem was being slapped with the DMC title. Sure even as a new IP the story and characters would still be bad, but at least it wouldn't have been a slap in the face

[Xb1ps4]

I tried it not that long ago on gamepass and it was a good game, shame I skipped it over the “it’s not Dante” fiasco.. and that’s what everyone was complaining about..

I find it funny how you say it had dozens of issues and didn’t mention one yet the very first complaint you have for this game is again... it’s not Dante... how ironic..

[Weeblordbad]

Pretty standard foxtrot fare.

[Lord_Sloth]

The music was wrong.
The attitude of the game was wrong.
The aesthetics were wrong.
The gameplay was wrong.
The story was wrong.
The politics were out of place.
The writing was wrong.

Not saying any of it was BAD because that's subjective but it certainly wasn't right for a Devil May Cry game. he didn't address anything else because it's already been said a thousand times by the fans that were against it only to be trivialized by the fans for it as "t3h hair cry" and that gets tiring and irritating. I have no real love for Foxtrot (I think he complains about literally everything) but you know very well what all the complaints are as they've been said many times since the game's unveil trailer. No sense repeating all this tired crap.

[Weeblordbad]

I didn't say the fan criticism was exclusively about Dantes appearance, it was simply the loudest aspect of the criticism. "The criticism stemming from the gameplay was so lost in the noise of people complaining about Dante, it becomes incredibly hard for me to take any criticism of that game seriously." There, I said it RIGHT there. You have issues with the combat design, that's fine you're absolutely allowed to have and share that opinion. But let's not speak down about an offshoot by a separate western developer because it didn't adhere directly to the combat mechanics of the first four games, DmC was not "crap".

Perhaps in the future try actually reading and taking in things instead of just dismissing everything that comes your way, I in no way insulted you. You do this a lot, you have an extremely high opinion of yourself and your views on "How and why" things should be the way they are. When you get called out on things, your first and only strategy is dismiss and discredit. Instead of just pointing out your personal concern wasn't so much the character design, but elements pertaining more to gameplay, story, level design and framerate; My whole response would have been different or just unnecessary. You just decided to have a little sarcastic fit, made yourself look like a child and stuck your head in the sand.

ggwp

[NapalmSanctuary]

It wasn't an offshoot. It was an attempt at a reboot.

[FernDiggidy]

You're biased AF.

FOH

[CrimsonWing69]

I’m an enormous Devil May Cry fan and I actually really enjoyed DmC. A lot of fanboys attacked it because of the changes in lore and Dante. The game itself was actually fairly good and I liked the story but definitely prefer the Capcom lore and characters.

Now, I’ve seen the complaints about the combat and specific gameplay elements but as a whole it all functioned well and it’s more of a preference argument at that point.

[Shinox]

Fox Keep in mind that you are surrounded by casual newcomers who likes both DmC and RE7 so don't be surprised if those same idiots will do it again in the near future when Capcom screw things up .

[-Foxtrot]

They usually do mess things up then moan after things go to shit.

Imagine if we had dmc 2? It would be all of them.

[Weeblordbad]

On N4G...you're surrounded by casual newcomers. Riiiiight....

Have fun keeping that gate boys, you're doing a great job.

[Lord_Sloth]

So long as Dante is playable and in the story Idc who's center stage. Nero was fine for what he was as lead. I like Dante more as a character but I think he makes a better support with how over the top he is and how disinterested in the plot he seems. He still gets his glory and everybody wins. XXXD

[ccgr]

Looks promising!

[Platformgamer]

DmC had the best gameplay PERIOD.
hoping dmc5 will be even better

[Sam Fisher]

I agree, it was bring new things on the table

[Eiyuuou]

No, not nearly.

It was the most accessible, but lacked depth.

DMC4’s combat was, objectively speaking, the best in the series.

[Platformgamer]

the accessibility makes it better actually and honestly.
speaking of DmC, i actually liked the story (the updated devils that have branches in merchandising, information and big corporation is always a nice concept for me) and the new dante too (the good ol' dante is better of course, but the new one was cool too), so i didn't get the hate for the reboot, it can co-exist with the classic series imho.

[WeAreLegion]

I liked DmC a lot, but DMC3 and 4 had much more in-depth combat.

[Eiyuuou]

Agreed. Nevertheless, DmC’s gameplay was enjoyable. It’s characters... not so much.

[ShockUltraslash]

Can you list anything that makes it better ?
Like specific attacks, or weapons, or combos or anything?

[ShockUltraslash]

DmC was awful.

[gangsta_red]

Gameplay and level design wise DmC was excellent. But the westernization of Dante was awful.

For some reason instead of making Dante cool and stylish they decided to make him vulgar and unlikable.

[micdagoat19]

I like DMC. Was a fun game to me. I never played any of the old ones though if that matters

[MachMooch]

DmC was fun.

[Eiyuuou]

That much is true.

[MWH]

"So was your mother last night"

what goes around comes around.

[Blu3_Berry]

So having recently played both DMC4 and DmC, I can tell that both games had alot issues. Mind you that I enjoyed both games, but neither were perfect by any means.

The problem I had with DMC4 were the fixed camera angles, and some enemies felt extremely cheap. I don't mind tough enemies to fight, but man some of those enemies used some very cheap attacks to get you killed. The other thing being the fixed camera was annoying and screwed me over so many times. I be fighting and then the camera randomly shifts on me cause I'm too far in this corner, screwing up the flow of my combat and regularly made me take damage from them. It was extremely annoying because I couldn't really do anything to counter it.

The issue that DmC had for me was that one, the story and Dante were too vulgar and emo. I didn't like that it was so serious and the personality was very bland and forgettable. Wasn't really a fan of those, but I loved the atmosphere of each level. The other main issue I can see people having were how they introduced the angel and demon weapons. I like the weapons themselves, but it was mainly to fight those who were color-coded either red or blue. The problem with that is instead of allowing you to change up the combat style in the way you want, you're forced to use either demon or angel weapon to kill that said enemy. It really hurts of flow of it, especially if there are both red and blue enemies together. It wasn't a deal breaker to me, but on higher difficulties it was rather slightly annoying.

I'm really excited for DMC5, as it looks like it combines both things I really liked about the games. No more fixed camera, amazing personality and story from DMC4, Nero being back, badass metal music and great atmosphere. I'm so looking forward to it.

[doggo84]

"The problem with that is instead of allowing you to change up the combat style in the way you want, you're forced to use either demon or angel weapon to kill that said enemy. It really hurts of flow of it"

YES. this x 1000.

[FernDiggidy]

DmC was a FUN!!! game, nothing more nothing less. Ya gotta stop hating at some point. smh

[cyx]

...No it wasnt good too

[Pedantic91]

Of course Itsuno thinks DmC is good, they had to drag his ass into the NT team after Tameem and his team clearly demonstrated their ineptitude. He went from advising to help fix that mess.

Let's not forget "the feel of 60 fps" on a 30 fps game due to unreal engine, classic skins as dlc after the whole brokeback mountain comparisons and colour coded enemies restricting you to angelic or demonic weapons.

The game originally was marred with stupid design choices and most of these fixed only in a re-release for current gen as i suspect is the one mostly played due to their comments about how it is a good game and i agree but let's not act as if the original release was a good game.

The original release was sh** on for a reason, if it truly was a good game as some claim things would be very different now, the current story line would have been dropped before being concluded and we would a seen a continuation from the reboot story rather than what have now.

[starchild]

Nope. I bought it and enjoyed it soon after it came out.

Lots of good games get hated on by certain gamers.

[Relientk77]

DmC was fun as hell, loved the gameplay and weapons

[PhoenixUp]

What was Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite a product of?

[Eiyuuou]

Satan.

[Rachel_Alucard]

NT's treatment of Donte and their idea of what "cool" is blew me off immediately. That cringey panel they had trying to push their idiotic mindset pissed everyone off. Not to mention how itsuno had to have multiple sessions to explain to them how to throw a punch properly. All the crap they tried pushing in the vanilla game got axed in definitive edition, like adding lock on or removing weapon locked enemies, like they had no confidence in their design choices. The whole game had pretentious written all over it. Good thing sales dropped off fast and this abomination is dead for good. I don't want anyone else to have to suffer through that Vergil DLC and Tameems pretentiousness with everything.

[1-pwnsause-1]

"DmC Was Very Good, Too"

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[AK91]

“DmC was very good too”

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