EA says it made an "unfortunate mistake" by censoring Kaepernick's name in the PS4, Xbox One, and PC game.
EA did this for the past two years now, so it is fair to say that this was not an "unfortunate mistake". As EA continues to insult peoples intelligence, I am confused as to why they continue to make such poor decisions. As a black man I fully support what Kap did, had we known that kneeling like he did with his non-violent protest to bring attention to police brutality would piss off these racist white folks off like this, we would have done this eons ago. EA is not the most popular in the gaming world and you would think that they would stay far FAR away from petty things like this. Really lame and continues to be just another reason not to deal nor purchase their products. Of course there are folks that will ignore this act by EA and think nothing of it, that is certainly your right, but it would also be my right to suggest that you in fact might just be terribly and intentionally aloof, misguided or both. When will the adults be adults again???
"As a black man I fully support what Kap did, had we known that kneeling like he did with his non-violent protest to bring attention to police brutality would piss off these racist white folks off like this, we would have done this eons ago." If the ultimate goal is to unite all races as one and you're internationally "pissing off" a segment of the populace then you're doing it wrong. I realize that your response will be "well, they're racists". Some may be (according to who you ask) but others may just have different affiliations, religious or political beliefs. I have no problem with an individual like Kap bringing injustices to light. The goal should be to form a union through compassion, understanding and respect. Antagonizing those on opposite sides of an issue never works and can only increase the perceived divide.
That is a lot to take in, pissing them off seems to be the only way for them to listen. Please note that Kap's act was not violent in ANY way and till this day no one has been harmed while kneeling. The civil rights movements was all about disruption of the current state of things. Protest are suppose to make you uncomfortable and people of color need you and everyone else to be as uncomfortable as we are every SINGLE day as we are subjected to some form of racism covertly or overtly. The crap that we deal with and yes I get angry but I restrain myself because its too easy to get violent and want to beat folks us. Don't get me wrong, nothing would make me happier than slapping every single person that is racist towards me, however, that would make my hands hurt and it is just too mentally draining, so the next thing is to talk to them like the human beings that we are ....what happens with that we are called aggressive and hostile and they call the police to create a scene and they pray that the police shoots us. You think permit patty , coupon carl and license plate Linda are an aberration? This is normal now. So since beating those folks up is not ideal and I cannot speak to you because you are afraid of me because of some preconceived notion in which you are so scared you call the police, then the next thing to do is to show you with things like "This is America" video by Childish Gambino, continuously writing books but we know those racist folks aren't too educated nor bright and prrrrrrrrrrrrrobably do not read much OR Kneel during the nation anthem.... NOW.......NOW we have your attention, NOW you are mad.... NOW we found something that you care about because those racist folks are not about unity...they are about maintaining the white is right and everyone else be subservient. What we are saying is this is not sustainable if you want unity.
MLK pissed off a lot of people when they marched in Selma. Progress toward equality isn’t about convenience or making a one group comfortable.
if you think standing for a song is more important than Black peoples rights then you may be an inconsiderate jerk.
***If the ultimate goal is to unite all races as one and you're internationally "pissing off" a segment of the populace then you're doing it wrong. *** But that's not what Kaep is doing... that's just a random person on the Internet sharing their opinion. Kaep isn't protesting to piss people off, he's protesting to bring attention to an issue. People should be pissed that he has to draw attention to it at all. As far as protests, they're not supposed to make people feel good. They're supposed to make you question why they're doing it.
***The goal should be to form a union through compassion, understanding and respect.*** Okay, so when are the people who are angry at Kaep goingto start doing any of that? Last I checked, Kaep has never criticized others, only kneeled. He hasn't gone on rants against racists, only kneeled. But, boy, he sure has been attacked a ton for a very non-violent act.
He's a bad football player, but an even worse activist.
That one statement by you speaks volumes to your level of understanding. Clearly you have no clue how good he is as a football player nor what the word activist means. Do some homework on Kap, the sport of football and the definition of the word Activist.....if you care to of course. I would never force you to do it.
He's way better than half of the quarter backs from last year's season...
As a non-racist white guy, I'd just like to say that Kaepernick approached this whole thing in the completely wrong way. All he really accomplished was bringing negative attention to the NFL. He could have used his position of fame to speak out on the topic and get a lot of eyes and ears on what he had to say. But instead he just takes one simple act, that most people view as an attack on America and absolutely NOTHING to do with the police at all. He ruined his own life and potential career, and the NFL was stupid enough to let him do it, and hurt themselves in the process. I know people that have cancelled their 300+ dollar a year NFL Sunday Ticket through DirecTV because of this crap. I know some, myself included, that used to have season tickets to a NFL team, and last year watched exactly ZERO NFL games. I'm not saying the NFL is going out of business or whatever, but this whole thing was a disaster that accomplished exactly nothing positive, and instead just hurt everyone involved. I'll probably never watch another NFL game again. I'm looking forward to the XFL and this other new league that is starting up next year. Hopefully one of those can be successful.
The fact that people reacted so vicerally was ridiculous. What he did was benign and a silent protest. He never ridiculed the people of the armed forces and decided to silently protest issues that he viewed as troubling. For this he gets kicked out of the league and berated by society yet players with dwi's criminal trials domestic violence cases and multiple other violations are celebrated. How many opportunities did greg hardy pac man jones ray lewis lawrence phillips just to name a few recieve? Its really sad but truly telling
yeah ok sir
You do realize 70% of the league is black, and that the national anthem contains a very racist stanza, that while not sung still highlights the legacy of racism in the USA.
@343 Francis Scott Key was a racist. That's pretty well known. But the star spangled banner is not a racist song. It was written as a patriotic song, and the politics of slavery, or what people thought about black people, while a fairly big topic at the time, was not in any way about Key's own personal feelings towards that topic, rather, the fight for freedom against the British. It was thought to have been written while he himself was a prisoner aboard a British ship, and was about his ideals of freedom for the nation.
***that most people view as an attack on America *** Well that's absolutely made up and not true. Most people don't give a damn about the flag or the anthem that they're unhappy that someone doesn't stand for it. If people actually cared about the flag they'd probably actually follow the rules for how they're supposed to be displayed, which means not on products.
***As a non-racist white guy*** Pssst. If you have to start with that, guess what you are? ***All he really accomplished was bringing negative attention to the NFL. *** That's not all he accomplished if everyone was talking about why he was kneeling. The only people who brought attention to the NFL were the people angry because he was protesting at all, not Kaep. Those people who didn't care about why he was doing it, they just wanted to be angry because of a flag that stands so that people like Kaep can protest by kneeling during the anthem rather than standing during it.
@Christopher, I would like to see where you get the statistic to say "Most people don't give a damn about the flag or the anthem". Around here the flag is well respected and is flown on at least a couple houses on every street. Black or white, here they don't seem to care as we love our country, our freedoms, our flag and are proud to be patriots. Our country is not perfect, but people are still a lot better off here than in many, many other countries. And before you ask, yes, I live in the South. I also think your comment "Pssst. If you have to start with that, guess what you are?" is childish and stupid. As a moderator of this site, you should know better than to make assumptions about someone's character in this way as you represent this site and the people who own it, and to a certain extent, advertise on it. Are we to think that all the people involved with N4G and Newsboiler are people who would jump to conclusions about a person based on such a comment? I would think you would have sense enough to know that a divisive issue like this would be something you would want to remain strictly neutral on and make no personal comments about. Honestly, you should be ashamed and if I were the owners of this site, I would be replacing you post haste.
@Elwinil: You're trying way too hard, and that's what shows when you start your how conversation by identifying you're white but not a racist. YOu don't need to do that and doing that all at draws all the questions as to your background. And that follow up defense? If you were set in who you were, you wouldn't be defending it like you are. That's not an absolute, but it's an extremely good indication. ***I would think you would have sense enough to know that a divisive issue like this would be something you would want to remain strictly neutral on and make no personal comments about. *** You want me to remain strictly neutral about racism? Not going to happen. You want me to remain strictly neutral about one's right to protest? Not going to happen. You want me to remain strictly neutral about what people go to war over to protect, including the freedom of speech? Not going to happen. And who do you think you are to think you get a voice but I don't? No, that's not happening. If you read my profile, the posts here are my opinion unless otherwise noted. My position is just that, it doesn't mean I'm right in my opinion or that I always have a good one, but it doesn't entail that I give up my rights to an opinion here.
@Christopher, You might want to pay attention to who is talking here. I am not the one who made the "As a non-racist white guy" comment, so your "trying too hard" comment is a complete misfire. As for your other comments, I think it says a lot about your character how quick you are to judge someone else's character. Seriously, someone in this social climate says they are not racist, and your first reaction is to claim the opposite? Does that mean that you think all white people are racist? Or all people who claim they are not racist are racist? Or just white people who admit they are white and claim they are not racist are indeed racist? Honestly, to me, that sort of shows how defensive you are feeling about it and your jumping to the attack has me wondering more about your actual stance on racism. People who are against racism, ALL RACISM, do not attack someone because they are skin color "X". And basically what you have done is attacked UnHoly_One after he claimed he was not racist because he also said he is white. Would you have said the same thing to him if he had said "As a non-racist black guy"? Or maybe "As a non-racist Asian guy"? Or any other racial identifier other than "white"? You can claim to speak out about racism and protesting but really what you seem to be showing is your own ability to jump to conclusions, your fervor in attacking something you perceive as a threat and your own intolerance while attempting to wrap it all up in some gleaming shroud of righteousness. Sorry, but I'm not buying it and for all your comments about protesting making other people angry, you seem to be the one who is angry here and I for one do not see any justification for it.
Apologies for the confusion, it's even weirder now that you're defending having to say "I'm a non-racist white person". ***Seriously, someone in this social climate says they are not racist, and your first reaction is to claim the opposite? Does that mean that you think all white people are racist? Or all people who claim they are not racist are racist?*** Anyone who has to declare they're not racist without being asked is suspect to say the least. I have no clue how you draw the conclusion that one person saying that means all white people are, what a horrible slippery slope. If someone has to say it without being asked, there's something there to question, IMHO. ***You can claim to speak out about racism and protesting but really what you seem to be showing is your own ability to jump to conclusions, your fervor in attacking something you perceive as a threat and your own intolerance while attempting to wrap it all up in some gleaming shroud of righteousness.*** I don't claim to "speak out" against anything, I'm just not going to be silent on my opinion about those things. I'm not the one who had to declare he's not a racist to start a conversation. I don't see any of this conversation as a threat. I'm not even sure what it would be a threat to... I'm not righteous, I'm sharing my opinion just like you and others.
Just for the record, the only reason I started my post with "as a non-racist white guy" was because I was replying to the guy that said "had we known that kneeling like he did with his non-violent protest to bring attention to police brutality would piss off these racist white folks off like this" The whole point of my post was to illustrate that myself and others were pissed off and it had nothing to do with being "racist white folks" I never would have just started a post like that out of nowhere, it was a direct response to what he said.
"its too easy to get violent and want to beat folks" ”nothing would make me happier than slapping every single person that is racist" " I cannot speak to you because you are afraid of me because of some preconceived notion" After reading your follow up that is full of anger and inaccurate assumptions I can only conclude that you are not really interested in a solution, only payback for what you deem is unfair treatment. You ignored everything I said and vented at an individual who is advocating a peaceful solution. Sorry but you seem like you're part of the problem.
The only mistake they made was not choosing a different song. I remember when Madden actually had music in it.
You're speaking to the wrong crowd in here brother. The mentality on this board can't even be adult about plastic boxes and games. They're not gonna give a damn about people standing up for issues in society that don't affect them.
Yup I agree they read my posts and then tell me that I am part of the problem...they are a lost cause. It is true its rather difficult to articulate this point as they are choosing not to see it. Good luck to them.
But do you or any others on your side ever listen to those that disagree with you who happen to be the same color and whom you claim are affected because of that color or do you slander them as well? Jason Whitlock has talked about it for ages and he actually has a family member that his family believes was wrongly killed by police. Alfonzo Rachel, Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Booker T. Washington, Clarence Thomas, Tommy Sotomayor (prob the youngest that I keep up with a bit), Jesse Lee Peterson, etc... All I could think off the top of my head that I read about, have their books or watch on YouTube, sure there is more if I took the time to check. I would highly recommend looking up some of those people and just listen to what they have to say even if you don't agree. Just let it all sink in and try to understand why they feel the way they do and how it makes you feel and why? I'll just say this as I don't want to get writing a whole book but Kaepernicks career went downhill when he started dating and got serious with an activist Muslim girl. He started going vegan losing muscle mass and energy which was noticed in practices as he wasn't starting at the time and he was said to be isolating himself from the rest of the team especially off the field. After his protest and leaving the 49ers he was about to have a interview and tryout with the Ravens as Ray Lewis was working with the owner to give him a chance and very vocally supported him in public. Now he had already done a lot of questionable things like wearing pig socks, a Castro shirt to Miami while defending Cuba, often throwing the nation under the bus while refusing to out any effort into the process (voting, proposing new candidate, etc). There is a long list of you take the time to check it all out. Well that summer he barely mentioned playing football at all, like literally nothing, went to Ghana and basically shit on our country again through social media, posted a pic comparing law enforcement to slave catchers and right before the Ravens interview his activist girlfriend posted a pic comparing Ray Lewis the most iconic Ravens player ever who fought for him to a house slave and the owner of the team as a Slave Master. That was the nail in the coffin but he wasn't satisfied and wanted it welded shut also so he decided to never mention football again while going full on activist and when still not signed files a lawsuit against the league for collusion. If I missed anything let me know, just going off top of my head, sure if I researched I could recall the whole timeline better.
Can you name a single case where all this attention to kneeling has changed a thing? You could have the entire NFL kneeling 24/7, what bit of difference would it make in regards to police brutality? Do you actually think a cop is going to see the protests and change his mind about anything he is supposedly doing wrong? Not only is the kneeling wrong and disrespectful it's a total waste of time.
Other than the year of people writing about it and providing more information on the issues? Yeah, nothing has come from it at all.
So you being black negates the fact that your being ignorant and a racist right? As a yellow.... green.... blue.... neon pink... oh no wait... as a human being... if you want to help with racism good sir, you should approach the man in the mirror and start there.
Forgot to add to other comment. Would you want to sign someone who is sueing you, isolates himself from team, isn't 100% committed, upsets lots of paying customers and draws so much attention negative/positive that it's a guaranteed distraction? Remember 99% of the black players didn't kneel, raise a fist or support/condemn any protesters. They simply don't care and just want to work their dream job making lots of money they can use to support their family, friends, community and causes in various ways.
You being black or white really has nothing to do with anything IMO. I support what he did simply for the fact that our freedom of speech allows for it. While I'm not one to be overly patriotic towards anything, other than appreciating the freedoms we do have and general nationwide pride, I still find it disrespectful to kneel during the national anthem. That is my right, just as it is his. That being said, EA, at the same time, has the right to feel the same way, and do what they did without apology. If people don't support that, then they are free to not support EA. Unfortunately, in this instance though. EA tried to avoid controversy, ended up stirring it up, and in the end back peddled to avoid pissing off the other side. So, they tried to take both sides, and ended up not taking either. It wouldn't be the first time they did things to avoid controversy, or to appease what ends up being a vocal minority.
After glancing through your 10 year comment history I've come to 2 conclusions: 1. You have a deep seated (borderline obsessive) hatred of EA. 2. You're white, or another race but DEFINITELY not black.
Question. So, keeling brings attention to police brutality. What brings attention to black people from the hood killing each other and others at an unprecedented rate? Who is kneeling for that? Where is black lives matter when it's their own doing the killing?
Why does anyone care about Kap anymore? He had a promising career until he decided he wanted to put activism in front of his football career. For every football fan who supports Kap...3 dislike him so it was smart business decision to cut any mention of him out of the game. He is not a current NFL player anyways.
Yeah the guy is a complete idiot that shot himself in the foot and ruined his career. And the NFL really hurt itself by not putting a stop to it a LONG time ago.
Its a sad story. I am a huge Boise State football fan, so I watched Kaepernick when he was at Nevada derail 2 perfect seasons for Boise State. I knew how good the guy was before he even stepped foot in the NFL. When he made his first start against my home town Bears, I told everyone he was going to light them up and he did. Football is something you can only do for a small window(Unless you are Tom Brady apparently) and he completely blew his window.
hes not an idiot
Nobody cares about him.
Every single person who talks about how he ruined his career or that nobody cares about what he's doing, 100% completely misses the point, and that is blatantly the problem and the exact reason why he used his freedom of speech in the first place.
Kap had already been losing the position battle at QB to Blaine Gabbert (a failed starting QB for a different team and now career back-up) before the protest even stated. His career wasn't really going anywhere at the time. This really dis nothing to screw up his career accept maybe his own future as a career back-up somewhere else. This just goes to show how little you know of the situation Plus he didn't even kneel initially. He sat for a week and no one even noticed because people don't really care. Just like they don't care about the people going to the bathroom in the stands during the anthem, or the people who are holding a flag parallel to the ground which is against the us flag code, or the other players who stand but don't put their hands on there heart. People didn't care until they noticed it the second time and thought it was odd. And after that he started kneeling out of respect. Since kneeling is a sign of fealty the world over, even in the West. The only reason people seem to have a problem with kneeling in this one oddly specific instance and no others is because they were told by 3rd, 4th, and 5th hand sources that he was doing it as a insult to our troops. People view it as an insult because they were told to see it that way and because it was a controversy in the media. The idea of kneeling being a sign of disrespect is, in and of itself ridiculous. We could just as easily have created a controversy about the fact that players weren't even on the field for the national anthem for years, but no one cared or thought of it as disrespectful, and that all football players and owners must actually hate our troops because the media never latched on to it and no one tried to spin it that way to the general public.
Kaepernick - “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color." And if you didn't agree with him, no matter what your color or background you received a Iot a slanderous name calling, accusations and harassment. Also let's not forget how important a symbol the flag is to most in the armed forces, he didn't attack them directly but he attacked a symbol that means a lot to many of them. Freedom of speech doesn't mean people have to agree with what you say or your method of saying it and it certainly doesn't guarantee you a platform through your employer.
@Oschino1907 A lot of that simply isn't true. He never attacked the flag to begin with. He didn't say that it looked dumb and anyone who likes it is wrong or that other people aren't allowed to view it as a symbol that represents something different to them than it does to him. He didn't say that the flag isn't a symbol for the armed forces but a symbol of oppression, and that anyone who views it as anything else is wrong. That is just peoples knee jerk reactions to this because they were told that it was an insult rather than understanding the actually message being delivered, people just decided to make up there own and then get angry at that. For one kneeling during the anthem isn't an insult, people just have decided to say that it is. Which is pretty arbitrary. Kneeling is one of the universal signs of fealty the world over. It is like listening to what someone says, then ignoring it, and then deciding what they were saying was something completely different. Then people get angry at the message that they them self decided to make up. It would be just as ridiculous as seeing the people in the middle of the field holding the flag for the national anthem and concluding that they must hate America, and our troops, and family, and love, because they held the flag horizontally and anything other than holding it vertically is something I just decided must be an insult to all of those things in particular regardless of what is actually going on or what the people down there are actually saying and communicating to me. It would be like seeing a soldier who says that he views the flag as a symbol of all the American soldiers lost throughout history, and then concluding that he must mean that he hates all fire fighters, and police officers, or anyone who ever built the very tools that have kept so many of them safe in times of crisis. Of course that is ridiculous, but that is exactly what people are doing right now, just in reverse. The flag can represent all of America. Which means not only the strengths of America, but also potentially its weaknesses as well. It can represent anything and everything related to America itself, although not necessarily all at the same time, and not necessarily the same exact things to every person. The US flag isn't a war flag and nothing else to begin with. It means a lot to many troops but it doesn't even mean the same thing to every member of the armed forces let alone every American. The US flag can represent a large number of things to different people. Some people see the flag and think of soldiers who have died for there country. Some people see it as a symbol of the near universal dream of carving out a good existence for yourself and your family. And yes the flag can also represent US history both good and bad. Heck, some people see the flag and just think of there own particular family. That isn't a slight against all other American families out there, Viewing the flag as a representation of not only strengths but also weaknesses isn't an insult , Just like viewing it as a completely idealistic symbol doesn't mean that no faults exist. Both are a part of America. Different people can see it as a symbol of something a bit different from the person next to them and that's fine. America is a country that created its own Constitution and then immediately made amendments to it because it wasn't good enough. The US is not a place where pure patriotism without any examination of anything else is the standard. With any criticism being viewed as a personal attack on the nations values. The US is a place where we went out of our way to protect criticism so we could give ourselves the chance to improve.
I found this hilarious.... Kapernick hasn't even been on an active roster over the past 2 yrs so his exclusion doesn't really matter he is toast in the eyes of the NFL and wont get a shot again. He was already on the outside looking in with regards to his position on the team and he became a poison pill for any team. I fully support the right to protest, after all it is a right we all get in this country, and while I do question some of his motives.... I do think in a large way he was looking to bring attention back to himself once he was relegated to being a back up.... I think the over all cause and discussions that happened post are good. Talking about things of this nature, getting problems out in the open is at the end of the day a positive.
F**K EA!!!!!!!! They did the same thing Last year in another song. BRING BACK NFL 2K!!!!!!!!!!
The NFL Cut PAPA John off lets see what they do to the NFL?
NFL is going to what to itself? You make no sense.
They should have never picked this song. Why did they? There are so many other songs out there to use. It is not even a very good song.
Wow didn't realise there are so many left wing sjw's on this site.
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