Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice -- FromSoftware Explains the Differences with Dark Souls

How does Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice differ from the classic Dark Souls games? FromSoftware explains many differences and some similarities.

[NewMonday]

Dororo!

[Ashlen]

Wow, thumbs up for remembering that game!

Great classic.

[Imalwaysright]

Are you talking about Blood will tell? I'll be damned if it isn't the most underrated game ever made.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Thumbs up for Dororo/Blood Will Tell.

Still got that game on PS2. Would love a remaster of that. Or sequel.

[starchild]

Good taste, guys. That game was
awesome.

I feel that with games like Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Nioh 2, Aragami: Nightfall and Ghost of Tsushima we are seeing a kind of revival of those Japanese themed games that were much more common in the PS2 days.

[Obscure_Observer]

Dororo was awesome! I would love a sequel to play with her as an all grown up woman.

[IamTylerDurden1]

It's basically Nioh.

[Smokehouse]

Nope. We will get our stat based rpg stuff in Nioh. This is just a straight up action game which is awesome.

I will be playing all three of the announced feudal Japan games and I’m glad they are all different lol.

[IamTylerDurden1]

So Sekiro is DMC? II know it's more action oriented, but it's not DMC. The action in Nioh is much faster than Souls but it's still a Souls game.

[Smokehouse]

Nioh is an rpg, you add points into slots to make a character a certain way. If you point dump into the heart category you will be a beast at swords for example. There are many systems and classes involved. Same with the souls games.

In your standard action game you level up with points but there is only one class one path. In far cry you are probably going to unlock every ability, it’s not a branching path sort of deal. Like god of war you are given some play with armors and abilities but you are going to use an axe, that’s just how it is. Basically it’s an action game with rpg elements instead of an RPG with action elements. There is a big difference imo. I’m trying to think of an action game with a grappling hook in the combat but I’m drawing blank, there are many though.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Japanese game with a sword. I see your point. Definitely exactly like Nioh.

[Tapani]

Yeah, like a western game with a gun! All the same! ;P

[IamTylerDurden1]

Nioh is a Samurai game that resembles a From Soft title. Sekiro is a Samurai (Ninja) game by From Soft.

Nioh has a ready made protagonist as opposed to creating your own. Sekiro is exactly the same way.

The aesthetic is very similar, both will likely feature high difficulty levels.

Both are 3rd person hack n slash games with rpg elements in an old lore Japanese setting with ready made male Samurai (Ninja) protagonists featuring fast brutal sword play and combat.

[Segata]

Not in aesthetics but if anything this is closer to Otogi with maybe some Tenchu thrown in but still not either one of those.

[Dragonscale]

So every Japanese based ninja game is now trying to be Nioh? Its Fromsoft for starters and apart from the setting doesn't look anything like Nioh tbh.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Nioh is a Souls style Samurai game. Nioh resembles a From game but in a Japanese setting. Sekiro is literally a Samurai game by From Soft. It's much more than just "the Japanese setting".

[Dragonscale]

@Tyler, sorry not convinced. The similarities pretty much end with the setting, tbh Sekiro looks more like a ninja game. The main protagonist is nothing like William, the combat looks different to nioh. The level traversal looks more involved, the enemies look different. Graphically nioh wasn't the best and the levels were very samey with not much enemy variety. Also does that mean Ghost of Tsushima is basically nioh as well then? Somehow I don't you'll agree with that though.

[Smokehouse]

“Another difference is that in Dark Souls games you choose a class. In Sekiro there is one class, and that’s ninja. There is no more stat system, and the game is based on something different that the developer isn’t ready to detail in depth.“

I love it, actually.

[chrono1205]

Can't wait.

[GrimDragon]

No explanation needed. Day one.

[neutralgamer1992]

Add different difficulties so those ego want to experience the story can

[Segata]

While I agree,I actually think this game is Dark Souls easy mode people asked for. Still difficult bosses but not stats to balance and manage.

[Vahlok]

I think people want to addiction of checkpoint system more then the different difficulties. I personally want that. Yes, combat is challanging but if there was a normal checkpoint system, it won't be so hard. I'm getting bored of stucking and playing the same stages, i want my game to move on. That is my problem with the Souls games. I'm waiting to hear something about it for Sekiro.

[paintedgamer1984]

This game is going to be pimp shit. Im so excited for this and Ghosts of T. Wonder who will make the better game?

[lociefer]

So basically this how a next-gen tenchu would have ended up, nice

[King_Lothric]

I just hope they add a decent and explained history this time. Dark Souls history is not their strong part.

[WitcheRivia]

"“Shadows” was a hint to Ninja, while “Die Twice” comes from the resurrection mechanic and the fact that players will die “a lot” in the game."

Dying a lot is what makes these games special.

[Daisysnow]

Could be hard. At least souls always had the option to grind and level up if you had a hard time with a boss

[Tapani]

So there's going to be upgrades, but there is no stat system. Sounds like a streamlined Bloodborne set in a ninja world where things get vertical. Aesthetics look very cool, but I'm afraid this might be too shallow. Hence the fast development time. However, they did mention there is another system for leveling up and they are not revealing it yet. Maybe it is something new and cool, like Demon's Souls was back in the day?

I like the idea that this is similar to Dark Souls in regards to the level design and semi-open-world setting. This would suggest the game is actually really big, bigger than Bloodborne that is, and would indicate that the system behind it must be complicated. I thought Bloodborne's system was way too streamlined for me, while I liked the gameplay much more than any other action RPG in the past. I still kind of feel that the first Dark Souls was the definitive RPG they made, and am still waiting for a real sequel to that game with equally deep level design and RPG elements.

Day 1 for me, anyway.

[MWH]

This is a good time for Capcom to revisit Onimusha.

[doggo84]

Shadows die twice looks f'ing sick. I'm getting this day one purely on the footage I saw. This has from software quality written all over it

[starchild]

It looks incredible. Basically it turned out to be exactly what I hoped it would be. I have written in the past, on this site and others, how I wished From Software would create a new Tenchu or a similar new IP with hardcore stealth and combat gameplay. I even wrote to From Software directly and laid out some of my ideas. I don't know if my ideas unfluenced the creation of Sekiro, I'm just happy it exists.

Here's one of my comments from last year:

"This is the conclusion I came to as well after first watching the teaser trailer. It clearly has Japanese music and cursive style kanji, so it almost certainly takes place in feudal Japan. I sincerely hope it is a new Tenchu game, since I have been wanting to see the series return for many years. In the past I even talked about how From Software should be the one to make it and how it should be a hardcore stealth action game with some of the same challenging-but-fair design philosophies they have polished in the SoulsBorne games. Needless to say, I really hope this turns out to be a new Tenchu game, or at least some sort of spiritual successor." 189d ago
http://n4g.com/news/2128935...

[2ndhandcorn]

A Japanese game the character must have a strange hand almost allways ha .