David Cage is overrated

Despite what Sony may want you to think, David Cage's stories are patball to Kojima's or Avellon's champion games, and he is by no means a master storyteller.

[Fantomex]

David Cage games are great for the tech, but IMO not for the gameplay or story. I am more convinced Kojima's Death Stranding will nail those two departments.

[AspiringProGenji]

His games deliver in their respective kind of gameplay. I will never understand why people want to give WD shit for their gameplay yet they are okay Telltale Games and yet QD games have way more features.

As for the story they are a hit (Heavy rain) or miss (Beyond). Detroit seems to be a bit of both and apparently better than both games

And it is not like David Cage is hold on a pedestal by anyone for this guy to write an article abor DC being “overrated.” The manis just doing his job and he did it just fine with detroit. Take that as you will

[getbacktogaming]

Well said! They are not for everyone though but truly exceptionnal in their own genre. To be honest I could think of a bunch of games I could call overated such as Fortnite because I dislike that style of game yet I would not call it overated because I have a brain and understand other people have different tastes.

[Gaming_1st]

"Despite what Sony may want you to think,"

This first quote tells a lot about the site and the journalist. Your agenda is irony at it's finest.

First off where did you get, despite what Sony wants you to think? I haven't seen or been persuaded by Sony to think one way or another. I have developed my opinion about him through his games.

Secondly, the irony is. When you say "despite what Sony wants you to think". But then you write a article about David Cage trashing him and telling what a bad story teller he is. So shouldn't it be also "despite what this amateur writer wants you to think"

[Aceman18]

Game journalism at its finest here lol.

[Skull521]

I’d never even heard the name until this article so I wouldn’t call him over rated. If you want king of over rated look to further than Kojima, guy couldn’t write a competent story to save his life.

[FlameBaitGod]

Salty liberals, I remember the Far Cry 5 review from gamespot, killing and blowing people up was fun, but one Obama joke ? thats fking insensitive and out of line ... LOL!! they are a joke

[NXFather]

Why so much damage taken. These games are niche.

[Venoxn4g]

i personally loved Beyond game more than Heavy rain..i liked story more too..its just those timelines were weird..thankfully as far as i know they gave an option to play timelines in order..
plus I loved Fahrenheit/indigo prophecy a lot

[Imalwaysright]

Because TT writers are infinetely better than David Cage is and I don't understand how you can consider Heavy Rain, a game filled with plotholes a hit in the story department. Heavy Rain's story is mediocre at best.

[AspiringProGenji]

I meant gameplay here and how some people seem not to have a problem with TT but want to talk shit about QD games. And not every TT game has been a hit anyways.

Plotholes don't necessarily make a story bad. It did have plotholes, but nothing you can't figure out yourself

[Lilrizky]

Nailed it

[Army_of_Darkness]

Detroit: Become human is Hot right now, which is clearly the reason why this author is talking BS out of his mouth right now.

[Imalwaysright]

Agree not every TT game is a hit but Walking Dead 1st season and Wolf Among Us are by far better than anything David Cage has ever done aside from Detroit because I didn't play it and I don't know how good or bad it is.

"Plotholes don't necessarily make a story bad" but they do in Heavy Rain's case because there are way too many that were cheap, made no sense and were just there to try to trick us.

"It did have plotholes, but nothing you can't figure out yourself"

No, for example I still don't know why the father (don't remember his name) woke up in the middle of nowhere with origami figures on his hand. Can you explain this to me or was this just another cheap trick?

[morganfell]

@Aceman18,

Yeah some journalism. They get a special place:

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[AspiringProGenji]

Ok champ! Whether Tt is better than QD or not, You have to consider that TT has already a lot of material since every game they have done is licenced, while QD games are all theirs. They are all good in their own right but QD games are superior in wvweytother department and that’s nothing againts TT but QD games are AAA. That is what I mean

[Imalwaysright]

TT is an indie studio. They don't have a company like Sony funding their games but for an indie studio to get the licenses they got is a testament to their quality. Yes QD games are impressive tech wise but these games are all about their story and David Cage is a mediocre writer.

[naruga]

i dont like David cage either ...the games are far to overrated and almost are no "real" games, ...Sony should nt have paid exclusivity for its lame games

[sizeofyou]

Yet they have an audience.
Choice is key. It will do well and sell to it's target. And if you don't like, don't buy...

[Miss_Vixen]

Fair enough, but just because you don't like the games doesn't mean they're overrated or lame.

[nRicosS]

Ur opinion far to overated

[sprinterboy]

Every game isn't just made for you, it's OK to like every genre of games, I don't like anime games or jrpg games but I don't go shitting on them.

[kneon]

His games aren't over rated, they are over criticised. Many other games have absolute shit stories but they get a pass just because they come from some other developer.

[Flewid638]

Telltale makes too much money off the genre for no one else to do the same.

Clearly people buy these games. lol.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

I don't like a thing...so no one should..what are you 5 years old?

[bigmalky]

So you don't want Sony games to be exclusive, but you say they're overrated?

Something tells me you don't have first hand experience to rate them, and are a wee bit sore that your system of choice is lacking in 'overrated' exclusives.

Next gen, buy Playstation and you might not get so upset.

[DialgaMarine]

It’s a genre dude, and it’s not a very saturated one either. There’s plenty of room in the industry for games like Detroit, and clearly there’s a large enough audience out there for them to justify the costs.

[sampsonon]

yes you're right, we want less variety when it comes to games.

[Redlife2g]

Trolling at its finest... Why don't you go back to your xbox and play......... Um.... Uh..... Halo 1 with a 4k patch.

[OrangePowerz]

Can't speak for other people but I like story driven adventure games and the Quantic Dream games fall into that category.

[Flewid638]

I'm afraid you don't know how "making money" works. LMAO.

[Rimeskeem]

The whole point of the games is for the story. It's literally an interactive story. LIKE BOI

[trooper_]

I disagree.

David Cage's games are very interesting. I played Heavy Rain and Beyond and it never ceases to amaze me how the gameplay tells a good story.

And also, what did you mean by 'despite what sony thinks'? Sony doesn't tell me what games I should enjoy. I can see the effort they put into their games and that's what leads me to play them.

Crap Journalism 101 at it's finest.

[BehindTheRows]

You clearly haven't played Detroit.

[Babadook7]

Love David cage stories.

[robleroy]

Everywone that think that TT writers are better than David cage should ask themself why TT writers write stories about already very well known characters and backstories...
BECAUSE ITS 1000 TIMES MORE EASIER!!!
Just pay for the license, give a twist in the backstory.. and sign on a couple of cartonists..

[No Way]

I know people will hate my reply, but I am in no way intrigued or excited for Kojimas game; albeit, that's because I have no idea what it is or what it will be and I have see no gameplay on the title - E3 may change that. But, so far - I really enjoy Detroit. Kara is my favorite, ^_^

[babadivad]

I may get killed for this but Kojima is an over rated story teller. The story in most MGS games are so damn silly. Death Standing seems to be interesting. Very interesting in fact. I am not sure how Kojima is got the reputation as pinnacle story teller in Video games.

David Cage is OK. I like his stories. Not the best, but who ever said he was? He is properly rated.

[OrangePowerz]

While the stories of his games aren't always the best or consistent, overall I find them interesting. They are by no means perfect, as example the end game in Fahrenheit just goes so far out that it just doesn't fit for me with the rest of the game. Detroit fixed a lot of things in that regard that they got wrong in the past and it shows that they learned lessons from their previous games. As for the gameplay, they are adventure games that focus on story. I take that over the constant open world games we get now that have paper thin "story" where actions have no impact at all.

In regards to Kojima. I love most of his games but story is not always his strongest point. Some of the MGS stuff is just over the top convoluted to a degree where you need a guide to know what happened and the last game was a massive let down in the story department. Very good gameplay mechanics for an action game, but the story was useless and not worthy of being part of the franchise.

[FallenAngel1984]

I seriously wish David Cage could at least produce a game like we saw the tech demo The Dark Sorceror at E3 2013.

Detroit: Become Human seems to be based on that Kara tech demo, so at least there’s a smidgen of hope.

[DarkOcelet]

Ps5 game maybe?

[PhantomS42]

I would love The Dark Sorcerer as a game, just a very goofy, silly game.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Oh yeah.. that thing was hilarious :3

[Jaypi03]

I guess you haven't played the game yet, Kara is in the game, and her story is actually one of the best of the multiple stories told in the game.

[Nyxus]

Ok, thanks for the info.

[Ashlen]

I don't understand, if you don't like his games simply don't buy them. Lot's of people do enjoy them. I enjoy them and I can already tell the game is selling really well.

[doggo84]

Exactly. Now Why do telltale games like the walking dead get a free pass from run of the mill choices, those games are trash compared to heavy rain and detroit, but you won't hear anyone say a peep.

[ILostMyMind]

Because it is not exclusive. Got it?

[robleroy]

TT games and their stories are not built from ground up. They just rely on very well know comics or TV shows.
Even if the games are technically not demanding ( they could be run on the original xbox) People would just buy them because of the bought show of comic licenses.

[PhantomS42]

Why just ignore it and move on like any rational person when you can complain about things you've never even tried and act as if your mediocre blog writing is far superior to professional writers who have good track records. QD makes pretty good games with enjoyable stories, obviously, people will have their likes and dislikes but it won't stop them for acting like their opinion is fact. I really enjoyed Beyond: Two Souls when it's in chronological order and not whatever jumbled order the original release was but I can understand people's disappointment with it.

[BehindTheRows]

Well, there's obviously an agenda with this author. Telling us what Sony wants us to think of Cage. I don't ever recall Sony tell me what to think of anyone, let alone David Cage.

I won't click the article (enough wonderful people here have paraphrased its obvious nonsense), but it's just sad to see these kinds of write ups make "news" these days.

[gangsta_red]

"I don't understand, if you don't like his games simply don't buy them."

Interesting point of view, people should apply that to everything they happen to hate and still complain about.

[Sm00thNinja]

Name one developer/game maker on Xbox that even has half the recognition that this man does. I'd love if David Cage would bring his games to Xbox. The man may not be a transcendant story teller but he makes top notch gaming experiences that are unrivaled in terms of production quality

[Team_Litt]

That's dumb. We play big personalities now? FH3/FM7, Ori and Cuphead weren't great games to play because they didn't have a recognized director name tied to them? Get the heck out of here with that BS.

[Sm00thNinja]

You named 3 games. And while they're great. You proved my point. Youre not playing a Hideo Kojima game. Or a David Cage game. Or a game by the legendary Shigeru Miyamoto. You're not playing games by personalities your playing games with pedigrees.

[Prince_TFK]

Peter Molyneux? Granted, he had left MS a long time ago but still. Also if you talk about dev, Rare and The Coalitions are also very well known.

[Sm00thNinja]

Really..... Peter Molyneux.....

[Prince_TFK]

Yes really. The guy, even with his false promises, still produced a pretty good RPG series. You asked and I answer, so what?

[Stogz]

I'll give you Rare but The Coalition? After one sub par gears game?? Hahaha boy are you reaching.

[Sm00thNinja]

First off Peter Molyneux no longer makes games for Xbox. The fact that you added BUT STILL at the end cemented your argument. Rare hasn't made a great game since Viva Pinata. The Coalition is just a studio name.....

If we're doing that I'd slay your list of studios with Sony Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, and Guerrilla Games alone... Just to name a few

[Team_Litt]

We aren't playing Kojima games on Xbox? The heck do you call Metal Gear??
David Cage? You aren't making a great case for yourself, he's got ONE critically acclaimed game under his belt and even then it's more of an interactive movie than anything. His pedigree has always been and will always be that of director who desperately wants to make it in Hollywood but has settled for 'games' and is well known for piss poor narratives.

[Sm00thNinja]

Wow ONE critically acclaimed game under his belt. Yeah you're obviously going to think what you want to think. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't born yet when Indigo Prophecy came out. Since I'm going to assume you think Heavy Rain was his only decent game

Look I'm sure you're enjoying your recent critically acclaimed titles like State of Decay 2 and Sea of Thieves. I'm not trying to take away from your enjoyment.

You're playing Hideo Kojima games sure I'm sure you can't wait to play Death Stranding on the Xbox One X.

[robleroy]

David Cage justifies why the PS consoles cost that much. The graphics will certainly not be achievable on older gen.
David Cage will never use TV or comic licences to lure buyers.
David Cage allways goes for ‘real’ human life emotions to attach and relate to the chatacters instead of paying to use already well known comic or TV Characters.
The stories are allways original.
The music and acting will be of high quality and as humanlike.

The stories are mostly unforgetable. Even after 30 years you will still remember the story. Most TT stories will get lost after 5 years.(you will not remember them)
TT games are like the latest james bond movies .Very Good but not that memorable.
David Cage games are more like the Godfather series.

[Team_Litt]

Decent game? No, all his games are decent but decent isn't enough to make a director legendary for the right reasons.
Heavy Rain is David Cage's only CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED game as it has a near 90% score on Metacritic(87 I rounded off for his benefit) which is the only objective way to claim critical acclaim for argument sake. Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit scored an 83 on PS2 plus it was on Xbox and Windows as well so it doesn't really count as a 'big personality game not on Xbox' which was the whole crux of your argument right?
David Cage's games average 77% which while more than decent and even more than good, is nowhere near universal acclaim. He's better known for controversies and lack of narrative skills than being a great game director.

No I am not looking forward to playing Death Stranding on my Xbox One X but that doesn't change the fact that Hideo Kojima's games are indeed available on Xbox despite your multiple assertions that Xbox gamers aren't able to play Hideo Kojima games.
If you want to get technical, PS4 gamers aren't currently able to play Death Stranding right now either so what is even the point of bringing it up? Won't you at least wait to see what he produces before lauding it over Xbox owners' heads?
Also I've played Hideo Kojima's games and while I find the game play impeccable, the dialog in his games leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. I find myself rolling my eyes more often than not whenever there's a cutscene or voiceover. Plus his narratives are all over the place. But that's just me, perhaps I'm a simpleton. Again he stands above and beyond David Cage because his games have superb gameplay.

Lastly, what do State of Decay and Sea of Thieves have to do with this discussion we are having about David Cage? Are you so unable to justify your praise for him that you had to insert a strawman's argument within an already established argument just so you could win by some sort of default?
No, SoT and SoD2 are not critically acclaimed games but there are plenty of games available for Xbox that are and did not require a big name director to produce.

PS, for your assumption that I don't consider David Cage or any other big big personality necessary because I am an Xbox One only gamer:
http://tinypic.com/r/2s6ls9...

[Sm00thNinja]

I'm done with this argument. I mean as soon as you say you're an Xbox One only gamer you cement where your loyalty lies. You're going to believe and defend your console of choice that long essay you just wrote could have just started and ended with I am an Xbox One only gamer.

To each his own I'll be enjoying Detroit Become Human this memorial day weekend regardless of your biased considerations

[Team_Litt]

You should probably learn how to read and comprehend...I'm NOT an Xbox One only gamer. If you had clicked the link you would know.

[Sm00thNinja]

Don't click on random links trolls post here sorry

[Team_Litt]

Even if didn't click the link, a wee bit of reading and understanding would have saved you looking like a fool by saying I said I was an Xbox One only gamer when I in fact said the opposite.

[Thatguy-310]

People literally go out of their way to hate on this guy LMAO. BTW What a professional piece of article /s. Though I wasn't huge with beyond two souls I deeply loved the experience Heavy rain provided. I enjoy Cage's games so Im happy Sony have invested a lot in his studio. I would go as far as saying that they should add Quantic Dream to their stellar group of first party devs.

[IamTylerDurden1]

David Cage and Quantic Dream are rated, not overrated. Heavy Rain was phenomenal and Detroit is getting good reviews.

[OB1Biker]

The title is typically a statement made to bring people into a topic knowing they will not question the topic itself but instead they will think about a yes/no answer.
DCage is overrated , or not overrated doesnt make sense at all to me. Its just trying to be derogatory.

[Hardiman]

No he's not and I think the kinds of games he offers is a nice change of pace!

Also what I think of him and his games comes from Indigo Prophecy, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls and just today Detroit!

[TheColbertinator]

Quantic Dream should just do the graphics tech for Sony,leave the story and gameplay to professionals.

[Araragifeels]

No. You don't like his game so then don't buy it or watch videos about it or even go article about his game since you clearly don't like PlayStation much.

[MrVux000]

That's a very professional assessment...

[UCForce]

No, that’s their game, not your.

[GamesMaster1982]

Maybe, some might also say the same about Stephen Spielberg . But end of the day they both make produce entertainment people enjoy, and that is all what matters end of the day .

[ZaWarudo]

N4G won't like this.

[AspiringProGenji]

I was expecting a fanboy comment, but it was you, Dio

[ZaWarudo]

I need healing!

[doggo84]

"Despite what Sony may want you to think"

Hahahahahaha shut up.

How's that chip on your shoulder? Get over yourself and accept that interactive games like detroit have an audience and a place in the industry. I really don't understand it, but there is a transparent Agenda by (a few) gaming journo's against David cage, probably "just because". David cage is NOT overrated. If anything, him and his games cop a lot of flak and hate in this industry (look at this article for example) which is understandable because his games explore different and more controversial themes. I'm not defending him as a person or saying he is the best director of all time. However, Heavy Rain was brilliant and beyond two souls was pretty decent as well. I haven't played detroit but that is definitely not overrated and has taken a beating by some outlets. There is nothing overrated about David cage from what I see. All I see is complaining journos.

[salmonade]

What utter garbage.

[Pyrofire95]

What he needs is a co-director that has a good understanding of gameplay and they might be able to come to something.

[bluefox755]

Overrated = "A bunch of people like something that I don't. Rather than just accept that I'm not part of popular opinion, I'm going to say that everyone else is wrong."

[Lazarus69]

I really hope the Quantic Dream will do a remake of Omikron: The Nomad Soul that game was great but was limited by the hardware back then.

[PaleMoonDeath]

SHAAAAUN, SHAAAAAAAAAAUNNNN? SHAAAAAAAUN! David Cage is aight.

[greywolf39]

Seems like somenone did not play the game. You cant something about a game if you dod not play it. You cant compare game like Detroit to Death Stranding. COMPLETELY different genre and aproach to gameplay. There are really some stupid People.

[Einhander1971]

QD always get a tough time especially David Cage, personally I love there games at least your getting a different experience from the norm. That's why we play games for and should embrace that, obviously the trolls who like to downplay something they don't like or understand. Go play your battle royale or some other FPS with your 14 year old buddies.

[showtimefolks]

There are so many games on ps4 play something else. He has an audience and we who like his games don't think he is over or underrated. He makes good games and unlike TT games his games actually run well and aren't clunky

So just because you didn't like his games make him overrated. In the bigger scheme of things Sony doesn't care what you think they are trying to appeal to an wide audience

[Bathyj]

Who said he was a master story teller? He's a game maker. He makes a specific type of games with a strong narrative, something different to the yearly shooters and sports games. And guess what? Theres a market for it. It has fans who appreciate it.

Sounds like someone is upset Detroit is getting better than expected scores. Get off your high horse. High sodium levels can lead to hypertension.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

I would love to be overrated...

[pootymcpoockle]

His writing style is so poor and predictable, people even made bingo cards ahead of release. Can't wait for the best friends LP, it's going to be one hell of a ride!

[Tototot]

Be thankful that there's still someone in the industry whos not making a generic fps, battle royale games or ubisoft open world type.

[leemo19]

If you think so...... Compared to other games that have similar mechanics, David Cage by far the best at it. Telltale tries but their games tend to miss more than they hit. The only thing that I don't like about DC games is QTE at times can be overdone with certain things like mopping, or just going through something broken. Overall his games are amazing and will always be a love and hate with ppl.

[TheOttomatic91]

*rolls eyes*

[doggo84]

"David Cage is so much overrated it hurts" anyone can be a "gaming journalist" it seems

[Nyxus]

It hurts the writer. His feelings were hurt by the fact that others like Cage's work. lol

[doggo84]

Lol exactly. This guy's grammar and sentence construction is so terrible, it hurts.

[DrShoe]

Gamepressure is so overrated it hurts.

[neocores8055]

I dont understand this game LIT the same as UNTIL DAWN but get hate cuz its a CAGE GAME. Wont stop it from selling MILLIONS

[OffRoadKing]

And gamepressure is so irrelevant they have to write articles like this for clicks.

[ILostMyMind]

Is his success bothering you? Was this the best you could do to make Sony a villain?

[CrimsonWing69]

That’s you opinion.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Cool story author and you’re just a failed journalist who couldn’t hack it in the big leagues so you write for a crappy little videogame site which is why you’re probably so miserable. David Cage is doing what he wanted to do and is successful at it which probably eats away at you hence the article.

[MWH]

In the end it's just a video game, If you can't enjoy it for what it is then probably it isn't your thing and you could look elsewhere. problem solved.

And this Kojima sucking up all the time is sickening by the way.

[Platformgamer]

from what i see he is heavily underrated
games like farenheit and heavy rain, even with their flaws, are not bad games and the stories are good

[Mr_Writer85]

Whilst I agree he isn't a great story teller, I still enjoy some of his games. I never completed Fahrenheit, but what I did play I liked. I really enjoyed Heavy Rain, but thought Beyond was awful.

Detroit interests me but not enough, I will play it but not until its £20 or lower on the PSN store.

[HeisenbergX]

He was never overrated to begin with .. he’s just okay IMO.

[thornh]

Loved Heavy Rain. Only played a little of Two Souls and couldn't get into it (will have to go back and try it again). I was interested in Detroit but not overly hyped for it compared to God of War. I did get it yesterday though and all I can say is WOW! I completely love it! The story is awesome, the pacing is great, voice acting is great and the graphics are mind blowing (PS4 Pro 4K HDR)!
It's like a good book you just can't put down. Started playing last night around 6pm. I figured I would play a few chapters and call it a night. Then it was "ah, one more chapter, just one more". Next thing I know it's 1:30 am!

[MWH]

It happen to the best of us.

[Banjorol]

I had the exact same experience and thought the same thing. Me too man! Lol

[Gatsu]

Ummm... no he's not. That's my opinion.

[gamer7804]

I'm going to get disagrees for this, but for me his games are far better than any of the god of wars, including the newest one. He creates worlds that feel real, and creates stories, albeit flawed at time that are more meaningful.

[AmUnRa]

Thats your opinion and you are backing your clame up,
I did buy Detroit cous i love almost every game that is diferent, i do not like online only games so much. The genres of games what Sony is bringing is great and i love that. But i like God of War more, outstanding game.😉

[P_Bomb]

What’s the point in this? Pick any game or genre you don’t like, grab a name from the credits, cry on the internet.

“Steve from Fortnite is overrated.” “Boris from Starcraft is overrated”. “Catherine from Catherine is overrated.”

Alrighty then. *goes back to Detroit*

[T2X]

Actually, he's not half bad. The stories are pretty good imo. Especially in a world filled with fps anf Battle royale games. I really feel that due to the length of time it took to come out, affected its reception. During it's development time, The series Humans, and Black mirror and West world kind of blunted the "Surprise" and relevance of the story a bit. But I'm enjoying it very much.

[fluxmulder]

Dude's a wannabe filmmaker, and a bad one at that. Quantic is better off without him.

[Lethaltare]

These days there's too many gaming sites who think their opinion is wanted. 🤔

[Moe-Gunz]

David Cage sure does seem to bring out a lot of haters. These people are seriously reaching. Bet you give TellTale a pass though right smh.

[TiberusX87]

If anything, Cage is criticised a little too unfairly. I've never heard anyone overrate him.

[chiefJohn117]

I didn't know he get a lot of hype. His games usually only get slightly above average praise.

[Herdistt]

No, you’re overrated. I love his interactive stories and each one of them is a masterpiece. Thanks Sony for their unlimited support. We would be playing PUBG as exclusives if it isn’t for Sony. I’m grateful.

[Flewid638]

I'm a fan of his games and I understand this article completely. Yes, it's possible to play/enjoy something and still recognize that it isn't for most people.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Overrated? LOL he gets bashed constantly, these articles lately are grossly incompetent.

[InKnight7s]

Your opinion about QTE game which is almost very rare, while its a fact that from last gen til' this moment shooters are most overrated genre ever, its for pure casuals and easy to play for streaming.

[Bobafret]

If he had made his "games" in the early 90's they would have been forgettable FMV garbage. Everyone is fooled by it's pretty package.

[P_Bomb]

Nah. It’s a legitimate genre. Telltale games has made a career of the exact same thing, licensing from big brands like Marvel, DC, Skybound, HBO, and successful IP like Minecraft.

Square Enix also jumped on board with Life is Strange, as did Supermassive/Sony with Until Dawn.

Point is, Cage’s ain’t a one-off. He has peers, but has also been doing this longer than them.

For whatever reason there’s a % of gamers that seem to feel threatened by these games, so they get their pitchfork on. Like one guy writing a game every 4-5 years is cause for concern in an industry of annual franchises and copy paste MP, lootbox season pass microtransactionitis.

[Banjorol]

Good points

[Segata]

Pretty much.

[Harkins1721]

I never see praise for Cage so I really dont think he's overrated.

[GTgamer]

I don't get it when david cage makes a game these article's pop up but when telltale makes a game(which are literally all the same) or life is strange or until Dawn nobody bat's an eye 😂😂😂
28514; like seriously did David cage hurt you guys anyway I'm loving this game definitely allot of replay value compared to other games in the same genre.

[Smokehouse]

Yeah, I was hoping Detroit would be like until dawn (which is a 10 in my book). It’s not even close so far, the first 3 segments were pretty dull honestly.

[m2stech]

nah i think fortnight, overwatch etc are overrated

[Bobafret]

As do I. I don't like this type of game either.

[Wrex369]

People saying David Cage is overrated is overrated. Plus it doesn't help that the idea of cinematic experiences are extraordinarily divisive at face value alone. I wanna play this I've enjoyed his past games, but I always wait for price drops on em. Nothing wrong with a little movie-action-sweaty-hand-decis ion-making lol.

[DialgaMarine]

He and his studio are the best at the point and click choice-based movie games. Even though those are usually referred to as Telltale games, QD is much better at it than they are. I don’t understand why people feel the need to crap all over QD’s work, knowing what style of game they make, and being unable to genuinely point out someone that does it better.

[_LarZen_]

Here's the thing. I dont care what you think about David Cage. Why do we have to have these silly season articles? They are pointless blog nonsense.

[Si3g]

Opinions are overrated

[Romitajr]

Kojima is overrated

[Skankinruby]

Are they just letting any idiot 'journalist' get their garbage posted now?

[OldPeopleSex]

It would be nice if game journalists wouldn't do articles like this. Like seriously? *this guy isn't that good at making video games*

[WeAreLegion]

N4G has absolutely no standards anymore. We used to ban sites that add nothing of value. What happened?

Who approved this? They should be banned, too.

[Segata]

He's a narcissist. A terrible writer. Wannabe film director and rendering himself in a game in front of directors chair won't change that. His scripts would be laughed at and thrown out if presented to an actual Hollywood film director. The dialogue in these games are often terrible and sorry adding Dafoe doesn;t make it any more legit. David Cage is the Tommy Wiseau of games. Here comes super obvious message beating on your head and awkward sex scene. More polygons are emotions! Sony fans present him as some sort of visionary. I played it to completion but Until Dawn does a better job at doing what QD attempts to do. Don't care about the Sony defenders nor the downvotes. My words are the truth that Sony fans refuse to accept. I do like quite a few Sony IPs and enjoy their systems. Why I own all of them but pushing QD games...ugh. No thanks. If you want to know what I have played. Omikron, Indigo Prophecy, and Beyond Souls. I watch and LP of Heavy Rain for lulz. I'm in agreement with Super Best Friends and Jim Sterling (I don't care for Jim Sterling typically) Oh and if you want to comment to defend the game or David. Don't bother. Won't be read because I heard it all before. Just give your downvotes and move on.

[AmUnRa]

Dispite what Sony want you to think..and than i tought wat a load of B*S....your agenda is clear and it showes in the rest of your post, like thrasing David Gage and saying what a bad storyteller he is... O the irony, stop reviewing games. A review is not there to push your on agenda.but its there to teel the good things and the bad things ( when they are giving facts about the game). All in balance. You hate the guy, dont review games of him...simple cous when other people calling you out about this B*S agenda review. You are doing yourself no favor with this.

[Segata]

Dear god, please learn how to spell and type.

[moomoo319]

David Cage is adequately rated, he has just as many detractors as fans lol

[Dragonopolis]

Look, it's not like Story games are big here in the Americas ( I"m including all countries North, Central, and South) we have Comic books but by 2010 Telltale games had what? CSI series that really did not make it big by any means.... In 2010 Back to the future put Telltales Games on the map but it paled ( and was overshadowed) in comparison to Quantic Dream's " Heavy Rain" which came out the same year as Telltale Games "Back to the future".

If you look it was till after the Success of "Heavy Rain" that Telltale Games upped their game. Finally Telltale's released a story based game based on the successful AMC TV series "The Walking dead" The game engine looked like a much improved version of "Back to the Future's" graphic engine but still looked like a TellTale's game.......

Everything Telltales has done has that ' was noticed ' rode on the success of famous stories written by other proven successful TV or Comic Book Series. I never heard or read the comic book series by Bill Willingham's "Fable" which Telltale Game's The Wolf Among Us is based on and supposed it was cannon with the series. I'm not sure if Telltale games wrote the entire script or had help with the story part from the Comic book publication. I believe it is a Prequel to the Fable series..... Again not entirely original but was quite a Jump up from "Telltale Games" previous attempt's.... Telltale Games still had a whole story series to base the game " The Wolf Among Us" so not a complete ' from the ground up ' story and the game engine is still using the same graphic engine "The Walking Dead" was built on.

Still both Telltale Games and Qauntic Dreams pale in comparison to comic book/TV series games and Graphic Novel games made in Japan where Graphic Novels and Anime (Japanese version of cartoons for TV in America but I would say is much more mature or perhaps more depth (not sure how to word that not trying to rag on American Comic writing I enjoy Americ Comic Book on occasion but I'm not a Fanatic) than Most cartooning here in America) and Anime has some stories based on Manga which is a Japanese type comic book and Graphic novel form of writing ( again not exactly like American Comic Book writing but really popular in Japan ) but is not a requirement there are original Anime stories and is its own genre.

Still here in America Graphic Novel/Manga based gaming and Comic Book/Anime based Gaming is still a 'Niche Market' whether it is popular or not So give David Cage a break....

Quantic dreams has won several awards for their games and they have contributed to the Awareness and growing genre of Graphic novel and Comic book story games here in the U.S. It may not be a big deal to more popular story gaming in Japan where this genre is more accepted and popular but it is a big deal to America and other World countries where this type of Game genre is not as popular....

So give David Cage a break as well as Quantic Dream the developer company make his game........ In the area of computer graphics, they have pushed the boundries of what Graphic Novel and story based games ( the genre in Gaming using stories) to improving itself in the graphics area (what is capable graphically in gaming on a console) as well as how that game genre ( Graphic Novel) is delivered/Interacts with the gamer who likes this type of genre.....

Peace.....

[leoms]

I just want to say I am having a blast with detroit.

[sampsonon]

why does he get treated differently then all other devs? he makes the games he wants to make and is consistent in that style of games he wants to create.

[MrSwankSinatra]

Yet ya'll overrate Hideo Kojima, overrated bullshit like evolve, overrated cliff blizenski and so much more dumb crap. please i don't want to hear from gaming journalists that have a history of doing the same exact crap.

[zodiac909]

Another weekend another pointless article on N4g.

[SethBrundlefly]

Despite what you think of Cage's style, he is a doer. Games are produced and released. I'll take a doer over a talker any day of the week.

[Jaypi03]

Amen to that, David Cage may misstep but at least he took risk with his games even if they don't always pay off, vs someone like Peter Molenuex who'd talk up a big game about how choices matter in games like Fable and such, but ultimately the final product is a let down.

[zaherdab]

I am still playing through the game but i feel those articles about how pretentious and deja vus the story is are just ... pretentious
Acting, storytelling and choices are engaging....

[jznrpg]

David Cage and his company make good games regardless of what some people opinions are they sell fairly well for the genre. There are a lot of things overrated I don’t agree David Cage is also Sony hasn’t tried to convince anyone of anything about David Cage? Personally I think Xbox is waaaaay overrated, everyone knows about it but they put out a bad product, to me that is the definition of overrated , not that you don’t like a particular genre but in the Xbox example you don’t do a very good job at what you do and are praised more than you should be . David Cage does what he does well even if you don’t like it. Xbox is getting worse at what it does and it’s been that way for years . I wasn’t a fan of Beyond 2 Souls but Fahrenheit, Heavy Rain and Indigo Prophecy we’re very good games and so far Detroit is really good .

[Nacho_Z]

He's right, the guy is a hack. He has some original ideas and I applaud him for trying to bridge the gap between film and games but when it comes down to it he's cliched as hell and if he were to make a film it'd be nothing more than a pretentious version of an Uwe Boll effort.

[Universal 08]

Who the heck is david cage?

[carcarias]

Not sure how he can be overrated when there is often equal amounts praise and hatred. People are always having a go at him, it's on any forum discussing his games. This article is based on a non-existent 'fact', so what's the point of it?

[Lilrizky]

Actually i don't know if thats true.

i know a lot of people and comments who dislike his work

He is a hit and miss for me. i enjoyed heavy rain first playthrough and im liking Detroit but disliked beyond

[DimensionalSound]

In his own head he is. Who really takes that hack seriously?

[Razzer]

Oh....it's the inevitable [insert game/name/etc here] is "overrated" article. Geez...should I click? Maybe just a glance....oh hey LOOK!

Killer7 is coming to PC!
http://n4g.com/news/2173493...

[FungLip]

David Cage is not overrated as he’s not rated highly anyway.

[GamesMaster1982]

About 9ish hours in the game now and I must say it’s another Sony gem , I don’t know if I want to be good or bad on the game and that is my only prob , damn you Detroit for making me feel for AI beings

[GamesMaster1982]

Not as over rated as superhero movies ie pansy marvel nerd porn crap.

[HaVoK308]

Overrated? The man is a laughingstock. Who the hell is overrating him?

[Segata]

Sony fans. They rate his garbage as the best adventure games when 90s Tim Shafer exists.

[Larrysweet]

Detroit is simply best type game it is ever period makes cage a master class

[KeiKei]

the author of this article is jealous

[ibrake4naps]

no matter how great a game or developer is, you're gunna get an article like this...

[Markusb33]

Cliffy B is extremely over rated. Oh look we can all have opinions

[Markusb33]

I can't stand RTS games but I don't write articles about that. Some people love RTS I enjoy freedom of choice and the chance to select from a wide range of game and entertainment styles. It's likeep anything in life it's just preference and what engages you.
Telltale is loved yet QD do it much better but that's just my view.

[soulrebel]

No one rates him or his games. There's no 'over' about it.

[tontontam0]

yup that's how the world works everything is subjective, everything yoi don't like is overrated.

[Silber]

It is absolutly hard, maybe impossible to write a perfect Story that makes sense with so many choices. Sure there are Plot Holes, sure their are downsides, but in every of his Games the Characters are so well written, the Scenes are scuplted perfectly and die Dialoges are so good. So live with the flaws and have some cool interactive Movie while no other Company will make so complex Games, because this Genre have a strong divided reviews.

[Flewid638]

Being successful is the new whack. LOL