Sony Focusing On PSN & PS4 Games Until 2021

PS4 software and services will be the drivers, not hardware sales.

[TheKingKratos]

Now that's more like it
I feel this gen is just getting started.

[lxeasy]

We are def in the mid point of this gen not the beginning. The exciting thing about being in the mid gen though is that Now that developers know the consoles extremely well I think the exclusives on all front we'll continue to get better. Can't wait for E3!

[Kokyu]

Um no even the head of Sony understand the ps4 is in its final phase.

[Skull521]

Took me 12+ hours to download God of War the other day, please, improve PSN it is massively behind Xbox Live as a service.

[Kosic]

Tbh I can't think what it'll be like at the end of this gen. The last of us pushed the PS3 hardware. Wonder what we will see at the end of the ps4.

[Gaming_1st]

@Skull521

Must be your internet. I downloaded GOW in less then 40 minutes. Nothing new for you to be trolling PS articles.

[Skull521]

I have a 250mb connection. Both my PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are wired and PSN always downloads at a snails pace compared to Live. There are no exceptions, it is a PSN issue.

[S2Killinit]

@Skull51
Well then you are the only one who has that “PSN problem”.

[DarXyde]

Skull521,

I have serious doubts about the authenticity of your claims. I downloaded GTA V in less than half that time ages ago and is comparably sized (bigger, actually).

[hulk_bash1987]

Seeing as how Sony themselves have said the PS4 is entering its "final phase", I'd say it's past the midpoint. But holy cow what a final phase it will be. Spiderman in September and Days Gone and TLOU2 next year. Plus any unannounced games for E3 & Gamescom.

[RpgSama]

@skull521

"I have a 250mb connection. Both my PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are wired and PSN always downloads at a snails pace compared to Live. There are no exceptions, it is a PSN issue."

Yes, because You = The World, stop Trolling, is just sad and pathetic

[Skull521]

Since I won't be playing for a while I'm going to go delete the game and restart the download, stand by for a screenshot, you Sony fanboys are pathetic.

https://ibb.co/eW3kWT

Here you go. If you Sony fanboys are satisfied by the performance of PSN then more power to you. I would prefer a massive improvement because Live does not do this to me. Leave it to Sony fanboys to attack you for asking for better PSN performance.

[indysurfn]

This article quotes industrybiz interview at this site: https://www.gamesindustry.b...

Here is the main quote:"Sony's management has told investors that it is now entering the final phase of the PlayStation 4's life-cycle, with the company as a whole primed to focus on expansion of the PlayStation Network."
Okay for network support I want SOCUM NEXT!!! Most of all I want ARC THE LAD! Pretty please?

[AspiringProGenji]

You made yor point @skull. XBL is better than PSN. Happy now?

Now, either upgrade your Internet or atpor lying. It shouldn’t take that long to download God of War

[PowerOfTheCloud]

Skull

Let it be. (Based on how you act on here)Everybody knows you either could be downloading a sh!t ton of other stuff on other devices just to proof your point and slow down the displayed download speed or if you are for real you have to contact your internet provider or take a look an your rooter settings(port forwarding etc). I'm still on a 25mbs and it doesn't even take that long for me to download a full game.

[Teflon02]

Skull
I'm not doubting that you personally have that issue but you have a 250 down connection? I have a 300 down and I can assure you that games don't take more than 20 mins max and I recently redownloaded a bunch of titles. I downloaded legit about 500GB worth of games and by the time I went through my list of downloads a bunch was done and in maybe 2ish hours, could be 3 or slightly over if I was really zoned out. But I went on my pc put my ps4 on sleep and came back hours later to non stop notifications and when they were all done. I checked to see what was left? nothing. Does it actually download at 300 nope. Is it consistent? Mostly, but at random times it'll say it will take 7 hours and takes less than 20.
You or your provider is the issue. Some providers here in Canada give issues on consoles based on security. Like Nat types etc.

[rainslacker]

@Skull

May want to look up how to speed up downloads through your router by setting up ports and what not.

It isn't Sony, as their network is plenty fast, particularly for software downloads. However, sometimes default settings on routers or firewalls can slow things down.

Also, the first 35MB of a download is going to show up slower if your settings are wrong in the router due to extra authentication being done through the PS4 and the internet to verify CRC check sums.

The information should be easy enough to find on Google. If there is still a problem after that, contact your ISP, because they're throttling downloads, or there's some problem between you and Sony's network....because again, most people I've seen don't have issues with download speeds from PSN.

Obviously you can concede that if many others say they don't have slow downloads, that the problem may be on your end instead.....right?

[DialgaMarine]

@Skull *cough* BULLSHIT! *cough cough*

[darthv72]

@skull, I don't think you are trolling but i do think you have an issue with your router. The xbo may seem faster because of how it interacts with your router, without needing any special changes unlike the PS4. I'd bet if you google it you would find there are some easy tips to improve download speeds for your setup.

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

I feel you skull.. When I tried downloading Halo 5 it took me 3 years to download! I downloaded 1TB worth of games on my PS4 in 2 seconds!!

[DarXyde]

This is just sad.

Skull, where's the proof of your internet speed? What else is burdening your internet? Is your PlayStation *really* wired? That early into the download, the estimated download time is still correcting itself.

I think a number of us are better at being objective than you so pardon us for approaching this with healthy skepticism. I would say Live was a good deal faster before. Now, I don't see it as any extreme difference. You have to admit, you're not exactly known for being unbiased.

Nevertheless, it's interesting that those disagreeing with you are just Sony fanboys. 😂

[Skull521]

Here ya go bud here is my speedtest

https://ibb.co/gxviko

I know you'll claim it isn't real or something else but whatever.

[badz149]

@Skull

WTF? I am using a 30Mbps connection (10Mbps upload) btw and I have never got to wait THAT long for any game EVER! the last one I downloaded was Mankind Divided (~42GB) and it took less than 4 hours

[TheKingKratos]

Now more than ever i'm sure that ps5 won't come out till 2021 :
https://twitter.com/serkant...

Final stage=3 years

[Edito]

@Skull

My friend I can tell for sure that the problem is with your connection or something is eating up your bandwidth because i'm in Mozambique, a third world country and I have a connection with less than 50mb to be precise it's 20mb, I went to job at 8AM and went back at 5PM and the download was done.

How come you have a 250mb download speed and it took 12h+ to download?

Plz.

[Dragonscale]

@skull, maybe you should contact your bb provider, Sony can't legislate for crappy internet lol. If its really that bad you could've bought it on disk fgs.

[bluefox755]

@Skull521 Whether or not you are being honest is irrelevant. The point is, you're apparently the only one with this problem. All my downloads are just as fast as they'd be on my PC, and I'm connected wirelessly.

[Rippcity]

@Skull I had the same issue with my ps4. For some reason downloads were taking exceedingly long for no reason but there are some workarounds I found online. I don't remember the specifics but I was able to manually configure some network settings to get it to download at decent speeds. Had to stop and start my connection a few times while it happened though. It's a weird issue but it stopped happening after I upgraded to the pro. Might be an issue with your PS4 rather than psn.

[Rhythmattic]

Skull 521
I don't even need to read though your comments to know where you stand....
I mean, really? Even a 5 yr old would of considered changing their banner on there account.
And , FWIW, NAT2 on the PS is what your looking for...Just work out what the PS IP address is set at on your router and set the ip for your virtual PS . ;)

[Realms]

@ Skull521

LOL. Getting roasted for your miserable attempt at trolling your bad internet connection doesn't equal the PSN being bad and Live being better.

[FITgamer]

I wouldn't mind a 2021 release, but TBH I'd prefer a 2020 release. 7 years is more than long enough.

[edeprez]

@skull
PSN download speeds are excellent, i get every bit of my 100Mb connection. What you need to do is close all other apps and games. The system reserves about 80-90% of the bandwidth for those active applications. If that doesn't work check your internet. Rest mode accomplishes the same thing.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Me too, I just bought a Pro last year since I skipped the PS4 on day one and bought an X1 instead so Im glad that they are focusing more on games right now since that is really why I bought one, the amazing exclusives!

[DarXyde]

Doesn't mean PS5 won't release in the interim. Sony is pretty great about supporting their consoles after a new console launches. 2021 puts PS4 at 8 years. I do wonder what the software and service emphasis will change. Nothing but more games, hopefully. If there's another PSN price hike, I'd have to call foul.

[jc12]

This gen is just getting started? What? Its 6 years old...

[darthv72]

It is not quite 5 years as of yet. Come November it will be 5 years

[MatrixxGT]

4 1/2 actually.

[edeprez]

Unleash the games!

[senorfartcushion]

I don't get it... Solely psn and ps4 or are ps5 games being made, too? Because they will have to be despite a new console cycle.

[V10Elit3x]

@Skull. For me its other way around. I dont get my full speed download at Xbox Live. But on PSN I get 160mbit down and 275mbit up

[trooper_]

@Skull: I have to use wifi temporally but even the downloads for me were fast.

hashtag: it's your connection or you're trolling.

[Stanjara]

Yes, because all these games are coming out from a 3-5 year development. Oh and btw, they are all quality titles.

[TheKingKratos]

Yes i agree
All games are taking way too long to launch unlike last gen where a developer released 3/5 games
Now most developers didn't even launch one game yet.

[Bleucrunch]

@Skull521 If what you say is true, then go to your ISP and replace the modem, router or both (I hate those combo devices, the router and modem should always be separate devices) that they give you, better yet purchase your own modem and router and connect those items to your ISP and I am confident that you will have better success with your connection.

Most ISP allow customers to purchase approved devices to connect to their network. This, I believe will fix your downloading issues because 250mb with slow speeds is UNACCEPTABLE....IF that is what you claim.

[UCForce]

Good to hear.

[Obscure_Observer]

@UCForce

*PS4 software and services will be the drivers, not hardware sales.*

"Good to hear."

So Sony finally go full on Microsoft Mode and you say Good to hear? WTF?

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

What do you mean by going " Full MS mode"?

All they are saying is that they expect hardware sales to decline for the remaining of the gen, so games and services will be their main driver of revenue instead of hardware sales for the remainder of the PS4's life cycle.

EDIT: " NOT hardware sales"

Again you're not understanding what is being said here. When they say "not hardware sales" they are talking about in regards to bringing in the most cash. This is because they expect hardware sales to decline from here on out.

[generic-user-name]

PS4 software means PS4 games. Nothing MS about that.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Outside_ofthe_Box

"What do you mean by going " Full MS mode"?"

PS4 software and services will be the drivers, NOT hardware sales

This is Microsoft MO which UCForce is so critical and vocal about.

[edeprez]

No they're counting on their games and plus subs to carry them as the system sales wind down. What does this have to do with Microsoft?

[Obscure_Observer]

@edeprez

From the article:

"Interestingly, Kodera’s presentation ended mentioning that in the era of the original PlayStation, the company aimed to sell millions of units, now they aim to engage millions of monthly active users."

MAUs! Microsoft´s metrics to measure success for their investors! Kodera is following the same patch!

[gangsta_red]

@Obscure

Exactly, this has been talked about before with all major companies including MS. Services, DAU/MAU are what these media giants are looking for now, hardware is nice but it's an afterthought or used for fanboy wars.

@Outside
"This is because they expect hardware sales to decline from here on out."

Which is why they are now focusing (or have been) on services. Which is pretty much what others have been saying and doing, drawing a lot of pitch forks and torches from certain folks on the web.

[mkis007]

Which is softwares sales included. You seem to like leaving things out to make your points.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

@Obscure_Observer and gangsta_red

Still haven't found where they are saying they are focusing on services in the way you guys are implying that they are. . .

All I've gathered is that what will make up the main bulk of their set-goal in revenue will be games and services as a result of hardware sales declining late in the PS4 life cycle. . . I don't see "focus on services" anywhere

[gangsta_red]

@outside
"in the way you guys are implying that they are. . . "

That's strange because I haven't found anywhere that says otherwise in the way that you're implying...

Here's more from another article with a little bit more information

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

"At the end of his presentation, Kodera noted that Sony's perspective on the games business has shifted, from emphasis on selling millions of units to an emphasis on engaging millions of MAUs."

You can bet from here on out that Sony will focus on services that engage their users more to try and grow their MAU in the same way MS, Google, Netflix and other have for their own services.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

"That's strange because I haven't found anywhere that says otherwise in the way that you're implying..."

I'm not implying anything. . .

I'm stating exactly what is stated in the article. . .

EDIT: "You can bet from here on out that Sony will focus on services that engage their users more to try and grow their MAU in the same way MS, Google, Netflix and other have for their own services"

1. Growing MAU includes games which I've said from the beginning: 'games and services'
No indication that services will be the sole/only or main focus

2. This isn't even what Obscure_Observer initially pointed out anyway. He was talking about hardware sales taking backseat as if Sony wasn't talking from a purely revenue perspective due to the point in time of the PS4's life cycle. You can bet Sony wants to sell as many PS5s as possible when it launches.

[AspiringProGenji]

Two more xbox fanboys twisting things to their favor LOL! You took that way out of the context in which Kodera said that. MS has been using MAUs and shit since forever to to declare success while hiding sales for obvious reasons. Sony in the other hand is still selling hardware by providing softwate and not all Gass unlike MS. God of War alone sold anlot of hardware

Now they will be focusing more on engagement as hardware sells decline in the end of the generation. There’s nothing MS about that. Sony knows to get more people engaged and buying Ps4 they need to keep providing quality exclusives, not just Gass and low budget games

[gangsta_red]

@Outside
"I'm not implying anything. . . "

And I'm not either, I'm talking about exactly what was from the article and the article it draws from.

"No indication that services will be the sole/only or main focus"

And no one said that services would be the sole and only focus which IS what you were implying. Of course Sony would also have games, I think that goes without saying. But as I mentioned they will put a focus on MAU because that is where most of the revenue is coming from.

"This isn't even what Obscure_Observer initially pointed out anyway."

I personally did not see it that way as he was also referring to what was said in the article. I think there was a lot of implying going on from all ends.

@AspiringProGenji
"Two more xbox fanboys twisting things to their favor LOL! "

And now it's time to address...The Triggering!!

"You took that way out of the context in which Kodera said that."

That would be a negative sir.

"MS has been using MAUs and shit since forever to to declare success while hiding sales for obvious reasons."

Something that Sony will focus on more with declining hardware sales. So, MS made a business move to focus on MAU that proves just as or even more successful than hardware sales that decline over time.

"Sony in the other hand is still selling hardware by providing softwate and not all Gass unlike MS."

GaaS? Which games are GaaS? SoT seems to be the only game that falls under GaaS. But I like how all of a sudden Xbox went from no games to a bunch of games that are GaaS.

"God of War alone sold anlot of hardware"

Awesome, now Kodera is going focus on MAU too. And who knows...maybe to get these MAU up more Sony may go the GaaS route since Kodera is a network guy and did say in the past that they would be looking into it. Then it'll be interesting to see what you say about Xbox fanboys twisting words to our favor.

[UCForce]

PS4 is entering in the final phase and they did said that they still continues support PS4 games until 2021. I do think hardware is important as software. So I do believe they are focusing on PS5.

[DialgaMarine]

Do you understand what that statement means? It means Sony is aware that new sales of PS4 hardware will be on the decline, so they will be making less money on that front. The majority of system profits from here on out will be through software and service sales to people who already own system/ will be buying it in the near future. It’s got nothing to do with eliminating hardware/ and going “full MS” as you suggested.

[trooper_]

Wait....what?

When did Sony say they won't make games anymore?

[Sevir]

It means they are at Market Saturation... The PS4 is now at 70+ million units. Hardware sales will likely start to decline because it's now moving to a market level where revenue will start to generate more from it's software offerings... This has alot to do with the fact that consoles in this generation NEVER drop below sub $100/$200... This was partly why the Wii, PS1 and PS2 we're able to cross the 100 million mark... Cheap semiconductor chip being produced and smaller form factors.

Those days aren't happening anymore, when your consoles launch at $400-$500, and newer slimmer form factors or revisions and chip cost decline only bring the machines down to $250-$299.

So shifting to advertising all the exclusive games launching at retail and digital will means they'll be spending more money advertising killer software and services the PS4 is known for.

It's a practice they've done last generation as well. Once they accepted that the PS3 wouldn't cross the 100 million mark, they started pumping out more exclusives... I mean look, GoW Ascension, Last of Us, and Gran Turismo 6 all released in the final years of PS3 and the PS4 was announced

[OffRoadKing]

The difference here is that Sony has compelling, high scoring, must own exclusives to go with those services. I realize you're trying to pick a fight with UCForce but you swung and missed.

[AmUnRa]

"so Sony finally go full on Microsoft Mode....."

What??? based on what? software are games in my eyes and Sony has alot of Excl. Games coming out the next 2 years so "microsoft mode" is based on nothing and is B*S.

[Relientk77]

Sounds good, bring on the games

[Thatguy-310]

I think things are clearly pointing out for a 2020 PS5 launch year. Seeing how a lot of their dev teams are huge in the amount of ppl I can see them clearly push out smaller titles while the core team works on the huge ones for the sp5.

[darthv72]

2020 marks two significant points in PS history. The 25th anniversary of the PS1 and the 20th anniversary of the PS2. Sony would likely want to make that the PS5 release year as well and have a special tie in with the two anniversaries.

[PhoenixUp]

Sounds like a plan

[Kribwalker]

“In regards to other PS4 sectors, Kodera said that PSVR, while growing, is below market expectations, and TV streaming service PS Vue is facing stiff competition. Improvement is needed from both areas within a realistic outlook.”

Looks like MS might have made a smart decision to stay out of VR for the time being as it really doesn’t seem to be catching on like people hoped. They need to put out more full fledged experiences and maybe better and wireless tech to get people to want to put the money out for VR headsets

[gangsta_red]

Indeed, VR just isn't where it needs to be in terms of game experiences. I'm sure there were a couple of good ganes here and there but not many to warrant the VR revolution or purchase that some were hoping for.

And it's also interesting to see Sony say they're also focusing on 'services'.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

"And it's also interesting to see Sony say they're also focusing on 'services"

Where did Sony say this?

[gangsta_red]

In the actual article.

"During this time, services and software are expected to drive revenue, not hardware sales."

[Kribwalker]

I also saw on Resetera that they were going for Mau numbers now, judging engagement more then sales numbers, funny that i saw MS get roasted for that when they started relying more on that then sales

“Kodera finally noted that "Sony's perspective on the games business has shifted, from emphasis on selling millions of units to an emphasis on engaging millions of MAUs”

[Nyxus]

Then why did they say Project Scorpio would get VR? Just another empty promise?

"We’re also excited to share that Windows Mixed Reality experiences will light up on other devices over time, beyond desktop and Microsoft HoloLens. Our plan is to bring mixed reality content to the Xbox One family of devices, including Project Scorpio, in 2018."

https://blogs.windows.com/w...

[gangsta_red]

Hmmm...not really sure what this proves other than Krib being right about MS staying out of the VR market for consoles.

[Kribwalker]

it could be seen as a smart business move to see the market trends and further make decisions from there.

[generic-user-name]

Yes, better to wait for others to do the pioneering and then jump on the bandwagon.

[darthv72]

You just described Sony and their entry into gaming. Kudos for the reference.

[Goldby]

^then what does that make MS entry into gaming?

[Kribwalker]

@Golby

technically MS was a pioneer in gaming as MS-Dos and Windows have been a big part of gaming since the 80s, they are the newest in console gaming but gaming itself they have been around a lot longer then Sony

[AmUnRa]

Yes generic-user-name.
Like Microsoft did with the Orginal Xbox. They saw that the PS2 printing money for Sony decided that the wanted a piece of the pie and brought out the Xbox.

[Goldby]

@Krib

im sorry but MS didnt invest in any of those games, they simply had the platform for those game developers to make their games on.

if thats the case where MS was a pioneer, i guess im a pioneer of intergalactic space travel because i can look up and see where i wanna go one day.

[Goldby]

not a smart decision at all in my opinion.

if everyone took Ms approach VR wouldn't be where it is.
while its not 100% consumer friendly, its a step in the right direction

[MrSec84]

Even with PS5 releasing in Fall 2019 Sony always supports their previous PlayStation home console for about 10 years since it's launch with software.
Things wind down about a year or 2 into the latest current gen.

This is just another point that supports a Fall 2019 launch for PS5.
A big ramp up in output for games on the next system takes a year or two for developers to really get releases happening.

A PS5 release doesn't mean PS4 will stop getting games straight away.

[Omnislashver36]

This pretty much. We'll still be getting multiplats and cross-gen games until 2021 on PS4. That doesn't mean PS5 won't be here before then.

[Skankinruby]

Definitely sounds like a good move, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot to start next gen prematurely as they are untouchable right now. I would only suggest having a ps5 mockup prepared for a response to a new Microsoft console but keep it on standby for at least 2 more years. But with their forecast of exclusives they are in amazing shape with ps4

[SkippyPaccino]

I feel anything Sony says is always taken out of context for the worst... Lol! "ps4 is at the end of its cycle... What Sony is clubbing baby seals in preparation for the PS5?"

I feel it's the other way around for xbox. They can say the most mundane quote and it will be turned around in a ultra positive note "we're working on new upcoming titles... Wait, Microsoft opened 10 new studios and they're making 20 games better than god of war! Power of the X"

It's never a dull day in the world of video game news

[OB1Biker]

I agree and I dont trust GI at all regarding the accuracy of their news reports. I totally feel theres disinformation there.

[TheOttomatic91]

Remember their were cross gen games for both PS3 and PS4 at the same time until 2015. So this doesn't mean PS5 will release after 2021.

[Artemidorus]

Told you, someone I know made it clear to me no Playstation 5 anytime soon.

[Kokyu]

That ia not what the report said.

[GamesMaster1982]

Good there is absolutely no rush for a PS5, truly how much better can it get than it already is.

[BadElf]

Phew, good!

Been so confused about these articles "New Sony system in 2019, probably!"....."Next gen Xbox coming soon!"...

Stop!

[StormLegend]

Oh yeah this is perfect!

[mkis007]

So a few years of overlap are a given...afterall in thd early years of ps5 they will want the ps4 sales to help balance it out. Still say 2020 is best guess. 2019 seems rushing for little reward.

[yomfweeee]

This just goes with what they do every gen, not exactly surprising.

[sdplisken]

Excellent. Good to hear

[Elda]

A-ha & I'm not talking about the band,I've been saying all along that the PS4 will be around until 2020-2021.

[Youngindy21]

I just bought a PS4 Pro earlier this year so I am glad to hear this. With a decent software lineup, Sony doesn't even need to worry about PS5 for a couple of years.

[ILostMyMind]

That's all we've been saying since the beginning of this PS5 story. It's coming, of course, but it doesn't need to hurry.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

@Skull521
Ahhaha.....slow ass internet!

[GoodnessGreatness]

That's Greatness

[King_Lothric]

The PS4 started this generation on fire and will finish it on fire too.

What an amazing console for the history of gaming. Last gen I always thought... If Sony was able to rise from the dead with the PS3 and practically made a Phoenix revival, then the PS4 is going to be in a league of his own.

I was right.

[Tzuno]

Will they drop a bomb at E3 with a ps5?

[thisismyaccount]

im moving on then. cant be bothered with another 3 years of shitty 3rd plats like this generation. great 1st and few 2nd party games, only crap imho coming from 3rd party. we had to wait til 2017 for a monster hunter type of behemoth. shitty games getting remastered but others like Ridge Racer nope ...

the division, destiny 1 and 2, monster hunter ..rainbow siege. i dont remember a more shittier generation than this one. diversity equals zero i guess. Shooter and more shooter ...i wish they hadnt cancelled kinect, we truly needed some of those terrible kinect games, just to break up the monotony a little.

time for me to get a psvr then or a switch and play more indies. 3rd parties have flopped hard this generation comparatively to the prev. ones.

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... except for monster hunter world, are there even any great 3rd party games worth getting hyped for? feels like we only got ports or remasters and monster hunter.

Sorry at new CEO, but im not gonna stick around for anotehr 3 years on this gen. I would shut the fuck up if Sony had fucking released GT5 and 6 Remaster for the ps4 years ago .. but alas 80mill. ps4 users aint enough to port over any game.

demon souls remake? nope we get a Medievil game ... ridge racer remaster? nope burnout paradise ... tokyo extreme racer? Genki are you ded yet?

thank fucking god sony´s inhouse/2ndparty friends have released so many great games. with the mario/zelda .. i had enough for this generation. Spiderman and Thsumia&TLOU2 left and why prolong this for another 3 years?

[Dragonscale]

Nier Automata is pretty good.

[JMyers]

I think this means 2020 is a good shout for PS4. There are always games being released a year or so into the new console cycle.

[doggo84]

Yes!

[bluefox755]

Why would they shoot themselves in the foot when they have this much momentum. No reason to rush it. Plus the longer we wait, the bigger hardware boost we're gonna have.

[terstomp]

Good news. PS4 is fine until there is the real jump in specs.

[nommers]

Glad to hear this. There’s too many games I want to play at this time and feel like this gen started roughly around the end of 2016 to 2017 for me.

[FernDiggidy]

Great news!!! No PS5 needed as of yet!

[Livecustoms]

As someone who bought a Ps4 at launch back in 2013, I'd love the PS5 to release in 2019 but if I was to guess id say 2020?

[mogwaii]

Bring on PS5!

[Flewid638]

Including this year that's 4 more years of awesomeness.

Well done Sony.