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Call of Duty Black Ops 4: Treyarch defends decision to ditch single-player campaign

Treyarch's flashy reveal of Call of Duty Black Ops 4 amounted to a confirmation of what had leaked: this game breaks with tradition by not having a single-player campaign, but it does have a battle royale mode and expanded multiplayer to compensate. And yet, the reveal left us with more questions than answers. Earlier this year, Eurogamer heard the campaign - or at least the closest Black Ops 4 had to a campaign - had been scrapped and the game restructured to focus on multiplayer. Why did this happen?

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UCForce2319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

I read it. But OH MY ******* GOD ! This the most PR BS that I ever read. Who think is good idea to get rid of SP mode and add BR mode ? Why they can’t do both ? You are literally destroyed the half of COD DNA.

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-Foxtrot2319d ago

Why will people buy this and support shitty practices? It means if this does well other companies will follow because in the end they won't have to put as much effort into making newer games, just let people make their own replay value

I love the spin he gives on how solo players can play solo missions...they'll be shit compared to an actual campaign. I don't like COD so I shouldn't care but I know for a fine fact if this is successful other developers will follow like sheep because they'll think we're fine with it.

Rippcity2319d ago

Why? Because most causals aren't thinking in terms of supporting/not supporting shitty practices. They are thinking "are my friends playing this game? If so I'll probably buy it so I can play with them". Clearly these games are very mp driven so it's no surprise they aren't including a campaign.

BadElf2319d ago

The CoD campaigns have been shit as well though. Miss the great days of Cod 4 and WaW...great single player stories!

RememberThe3572319d ago

COD campaigns have been mediocre for a while now, and they've been focusing more and more on MP. Obviously MP shooters are popular, but we've seen there is still a market for SP shooters. COD forsaking story doesn't mean the end of a genre, probably the opposite. COD going fully MP leaves a big ol hole on the genre some talented ass people will be happy to sell the kinds of stories we want.

MorpheusX2318d ago

@Foxtrot

Agreed.

Even worse, if this is even a little successful, the media will start writing opinion pieces on "How Gamers love it & are fine with it".

Even though it will be a straight face lie. smh

The Interactive Entertainment Industry is becoming greedier by the minute.

Zabatsu2318d ago

Thing is. How the f*** do you even want to be a game designer, programmer, artist or what ever to create games like this? Serioulsy? These people gotta feel dead inside.

darthv722318d ago

If they get enough criticism then maybe they will change like GT Sport did.

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Razuel2319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

The zombie mode looked a bit like it could be the single player's campaign but it will likely follow previous formula. What is disappointing is treyarch are the ones over there that have or had the talent to deliver a strong campaign.

yomfweeee2319d ago

They've been collecting data for many years. They made a business decision to not include SP. They know they will lose some sales because of this. They've crunched the numbers, it wasn't worth it. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that.

IamTylerDurden12319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

Septic

You need to stop going around spreading false information. If you truly believe i have an alt then go to the administration, gather some fake research, and make a formal complaint.

I'm assuming you know it's bs and you are just attempting to assassinate my character. Either way, it's very dangerous to go around harassing someone and to make overtly fake allegations in an effort to falsely discredit someone. Just be careful, you aren't a dumb person, but online harassment goes beyond the reach of N4G.

I am not UForce, nor have i ever had an alt. Stop spreading fake information.

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Jinger2319d ago

With how bad the SP modes have been lately... I'd rather them just go full force into more MP and Zombies tbh that's where most CoD fans spend 98% of their time anyway.

Gaming_1st2319d ago

Exactly what you said. You summed it up right. The campaigns have not been very good so people have not been playing them. If they put as much effort into the single player part as they do the multiplayer. Then maybe people would spend more time playing and finishing the single player. World at war i played through like 3 or 4 different times, cause i enjoyed it so much.

shiva12319d ago

COD is now always online game. Which other games from Activision are going in this direction?

Rachel_Alucard2319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

The part where the interviewer asked him "When was the decision made to build it? How long have you had to build it? How did it get going in the first place?" and he responded with some vague statement that was just being read as "I can't admit that the BR mode was only scrapped together in 5 months by Raven softworks so I'll just use a fallacie statement to make it sound like it was being developed since at least fortnite came out"

Then he confirmed it won't have 100 players but refused to answer because it's low because we know it's like 36 or 37.

That entire report was real to the letter any claims made in it have lined up with everything being presented.

What a joke.

Christopher2319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

I gotta agree, why spend tons of money on a mode that most don't even finish versus new modes people play a lot of now.

I don't play cod games because of their MP focus, I still won't play them. Seems like more improvements for those who do okay the games IMHO.

Not like we're lacking SP shooters with Rage 2 just announced.

Edit: autocorrect thinks I okay games, not play.

IamTylerDurden12319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

I personally prefer SP campaigns, but they are adding arguably more content by replacing it with Battle Royale and SP missions. I'd rather have a legitimate SP campaign, i just prefer actual writing and drama as opposed to more mindless mp. However, the content is still there, it's just allocated differently. The game will be a mp fans dream. True class based mp, a legitimate Battle Royale mode with A+ AAA production value, and a robust Zombies mode featuring horde gameplay and co op

Godmars2902318d ago

It'll depend on the COD fanbase buying the game or not. Pure and simple.

As to why they "can't" do both? Money. Cost more to script and produce a SP campaign than simply drop a MP arena.

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Evolve2319d ago

So instead of creating an entirely new game, improve game engine, and add new ways for storytelling, Treyarch and Activision decided to release a GAME MODE with a 60 price tag and god knows how much they'll charge for a future DLC.

zielocz3k2319d ago

and how much they will charge for lootboxes xD

Chris_GTR12319d ago

Im worried about this one. I can already imagine it , 1 BR map , 1 zombie map, 10 MP levels , 60$ please. Add to that the BS loot crates where everything repeats and probably some more map packs for 15$ each. if they don't add extra content to make up for the lack of SP im not buying this.

Smitty20202318d ago

How can we squeeze more money out of customers ??I know let’s implement a br made for loot boxes and sack off the sp mode where we don’t earn nothing off them

Imalwaysright2319d ago

And still their game will easily be one of the best selling games of the year so why wouldn't they?

LiamKreptic2319d ago

Don’t understand your downvotes...you speak truth

UCForce2319d ago

Yeah, but they will get a lot of bad reputation for removing it. It’s not about the fact. The fact is that Single Player mode is part COD DNA in first place just as MP, both of them are the past, the present and future. None of them should left behind.

agent45322318d ago

That's exactly what I am afraid of. Majority of gamers talking trash and pissing on Call of Duty for lacking a single player campaign; yet, they still buy call of duty. We failed to buy en masse fps games like Titanfall 2 (really the only competition it had was yearly call of duty/battlefield and mediocre halo game), Wolfstein 2, Prey, etc. So, yes single player campaign story driven fps games had released. The problem is they don't sell like freaking call of duty 👹

Rhythmattic2318d ago

Imalwaysright
Ive given the most painful up vote to you because of the truth in your statement.

Cobra9512318d ago

The crowd that's rightfully angry here is not the same crowd that buys the crappy game, agent4532. I know I'm not buying it. You know you're not buying it. We know many others will still buy it. The sheep herds will make it successful, not us.

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Rachel_Alucard2319d ago

They'll release a MW2R and lock it to the hardened edition and it won't have any multiplayer then use that as the excuse for a traditional campaign. Mark my words

Kryptix2319d ago

That...actually seems the most likely move knowing Activision's scummy practices.

I really do believe that Black Ops 4 is being designed as a throwaway Call of Duty to test the waters. See if they can get away with full priced multiplayer only Call of Dootys in the future.

Without having to pay for voice actors and just reuse assets like an unskilled dev using Unity engine for their Steam Greenlight game would, they want to see if by lowering the budget they can increase the profits.

Their new formula would be to just follow whatever trend there is. I mean, they literally made an Android game that is about base building at the time that was the peak genre on smartphones.

I'm hoping Battlefield V really shows what a military shooter should be like at this point where CoD is at it's lowest. Battlefield Vietnam would just be a nail and to take a good chunk of market share.

Rachel_Alucard2318d ago (Edited 2318d ago )

They'd mostly be removing multiplayer so they don't get a repeat of what happened when MWR got released and they pulled out of their yearly charity drive just because everyone wanted to play MWR instead of the new game.That alone says all that needs to be said.

Umb2319d ago

Welcome to the future of gaming and a taste of things to come. Personal I hope it does not come to this because I enjoy sp games since 1986.

Cobra9512318d ago

The future for some. There will always be a significant demand for SP games. Developers who ignore it will leave more money on the table for those who don't.

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gamer78042319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

wow, saying COD BO3 never had a traditional campaign. yikes. Good on eurogamer for not letting him get away on that one. this game is going to be one of the worst rated COD games ever. Sure their MP only base will like it, but they'll still lose out in the end. Will be fun to watch what happens as this game releases and reviews come out.

Adexus2319d ago

He only said they never set out to make a traditional campaign for BO4, not that BO3 didn't have one.

That said though the fact it doesn't have a campaign is BS and I'll just buy Battlefield instead which I've always preferred anyway.

Profchaos2319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

I thought iw would be tough to beat I was so wrong worst cod coming from treyarch of all devs

lociefer2319d ago (Edited 2319d ago )

COD 2019: map editor warefare, create ur own damn map and experience

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How Real-World Events Shaped the Story and Content of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2

Slava Lukyanenka, the producer and creative director of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl, offers an insightful look into the development of the much-anticipated sequel. He delves into the significant impact that the ongoing conflict in Ukraine has had on both the game and its team, sharing how these challenges have shaped their approach.

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Palworld maker vows to fight Nintendo lawsuit on behalf of fans and indie developers

Palworld developer Pocketpair has responded to this morning's dramatic decision by Nintendo to file a patent infringement.

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GotGame8183d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Palworld is better, but Nintendo has$$$$ They can fight it all they want, but will absolutely lose. It is a blatant Pokemon rip off. I do wish them luck though.

RedDevils1d 19h ago

Go check Dragon Quest you would know where Pokemon got their ideas from.

MeteorPanda1d 19h ago

The character design is NOT the issue here. Pokemon patented bullsht. You can patent "Throwing an item to capture a virtual character and another action to release an item that releases a combat character onto virtual world" but my god that is vague as fuck and shouldnt hold in any court...and the kicker? it was patented AFTER palworld was made.

If this lawsuit goes through that is literally going to work on every single monster capture game,

Lionsguard1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Like the other guy said, this has nothing to do with any of the designs. This is Nintendo patent trolling. It's like Rockstar suing another game if they have a guy opening the car door and yanking them out to steal the car because that's why you do in GTA so therefore that game is infringing on GTA's "patent". And that's the reason why Pocketpair is fighting this because if they lose this opens the doors to MORE lawsuits of this kind.

Profchaos1d 23h ago

Weren't the wire models used in palworld ripped out of Pokemon in the end?

porkChop1d 22h ago

No they weren't. That was proven false. And, again since people don't seem to understand, this is not a copyright lawsuit or about stolen content/assets/designs/etc. It's a patent lawsuit. So far all the possible patents I've seen were filed by Nintendo 4 months *after* Palworld released.

Profchaos1d 20h ago

Then I have no clue what this is about specifically

--Onilink--1d 20h ago

The catching mechanic patent was filed even before Arceus was released, I dont know which ones you have been watching because all the ones I’ve seen were before Palword came out
(Though not all have been approved in the US yet, just in Japan)

porkChop1d 20h ago

The patent for the catching mechanic was filed July 2024 and granted August 2024. It was filed on top of a separate, "parent" patent that had been filed in 2021. Nintendo filed new patents and had them expedited just so they could sue Pocket Pair/Palworld.

MeteorPanda1d 19h ago

it's so dumb. if that patent holds any water in court - any monster capture game is done and gone. cnts.

NotoriousWhiz1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Source that says it was filed in July? I couldn't find it. And everything I can find states that it typically takes around a year or more for patents to be approved.

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jznrpg1d 22h ago

On behalf of their money seems like the biggest reason

Kneetos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

People want Nintendo to lose as a big middle finger to the company, but if Nintendo wins then they set a precedent for others to follow which could be bad for Nintendo themselves if they end up infringing on a patent owned by someone else

The one I'm reminded of is, a few years ago Sony patented something to do with AI controlling a characters moments in a game to "help get past difficult or grindy parts" of a game

Mario kart 8 deluxe had a the auto acceleration and auto steering technology implemented, so potentially if that came back for mario kart 9 could possibly open the door for Sony to sue them if it's close enough

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Veilguard Game Director Corinne Busche on Player Choice and Companion Relationships

TechRaptor writes, "We Talked to Dragon Age: The Veilguard Game Director Corinne Busche about player choice, companion relationships, and of course romancing those companions."

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