Okay, Cool's Riley Little, "Say what you will, but one writer feels adamant that Sony’s fight title should make its return."
i dont understand how the damn Sony lost all its beloved characters that defined Playstation and couldnt include even one iconic character to the damn game ...Crash B -absent , Solid Snake -absent , Cloud-absent ,Sephiroth absent , OG Dante absent, Chris -Jill absent....and the thing that annoyes me most is that at same time Nintendo secured with ease Solide Snake and Cloud for SMash Bros (two characters that someone can say they are unofficial Playstation mascots and wherever they appear just "shout" PS ) Also Sony from the included characters (Drake Kratos etcetc) could easily define that their secific games except the hyped sales had only minor appeal to PS audience (like myself) ....(from when the big Daddys -Bioshock are iconic playstation chars?????? facepalm* if a PS Batlle royal 2 is to be made, Sony just get back what "rightfully belongs" to you and dont let others steal the food fromo your hands
I think it's fully possible that Sony approached these publishers looking for guest appearances but due to how rough psasbr looked they weren't able to receive license for the big ones. Despite psasbr's roster issues that game was flawed on many other levels. The battle system was almost universally hated. The game was heavily unbalanced at launch. The game despite being on powerful hardware looked like it belonged on ps2. It really just felt incomplete and almost like a beta or something.
@smashman "The game despite being on powerful hardware looked like it belonged on ps2." Harsh, but since it was made to not only play on the Vita but be cross play with the Vita you can understand why the games graphics are more on the, shall we say lower end of what the PS3 could do. A PS4 version wouldn't have such constraints.
Im sorry but that battle system was far better than smash at least imo
PS2? Stop it. PS All-Stars was adequate graphically, not a stunner, but to say it looked PS2 level is foolish. Sly TiT was on VITA and PS3 yet it looked great on both. I just think Sony was copying the Smash visual style so it more or less looked like that. It was beautiful on VITA though.
Smashman You really think Konami denied Sony the use of Snake because "of how rough PS All-Stars looked"? I can't even believe anyone agreed with you. Perhaps play the game and you'll see that Raiden of MGS fame is featured... Perhaps characters like Snake and Cloud were unable to be in PS All-Stars because they already had a deal with Nintendo. Yea.
To clarify. My stance on this game, I had a lot of fun with it. I platinumed it, and bought it on release. I occasionally will bust it out to play with my friends.
A lot of those characters you listed in the first paragraph were never owned by Sony in the first place. So Sony never really lost them to begin with. ""rightfully belongs" to you and dont let others steal the food fromo your hands" But...none of those characters rightfully belongs to Sony. Besides it seems that a lot of the third part characters represented what marketing wanted to push their own games, especially when seeing the new Dante and not the old Dante we all know and love. Also Big Daddy and other 3rd party characters that I wouldn't necessarily call PS All Stars...just happened to appear on a PS console.
...man i Fing know that dont belong to Sony .....but it is Playstation where they began , succeed and shined ... they r somewhat part of the PS ecosystem....it s outrageous to see them on Nintendo s field when these games /chars defined a whole game generation on PS system .... it s like having pokemon (that when they first released, the devs where 2nd party not owned by Nintnedo) on PS Battle royal ...they JUST dont fit
" outrageous to see them on Nintendo field" Lol outrageous.. seriously?
Well, one could argue that the Smash series is far and away more popular than All Stars and having Solid Snake and Cloud appear in Smash is a better business decision than to appear in All Stars which by all accounts is a Smash clone. Also if you reeeeally want to get technical, both Metal Gear and FF started on Nintendo, so Nintendo should have claim on those characters even if in the series one is a soft reboot and the other is a numbered game that didn't appear on a Nintendo console.
.ok........lets get technical then...why Nintendo didnt included Kafka from FF 6 ??? or even Crono from Chrono Trigger that were both succesfull and as you say started on Nintendo .....because not even their mother remebers them ... ...cmon dont bring BS justification s..... Sony with PS poured a ton of money and gave freedom to the devs in order to augment the quality of video games ...that s why legendary games built that time on PS ....with characters that are milestones for gaming ..Kojima himself has admitted that Sony with their right behaviour toward developers (treated them as they were creators) contributed in order for MGS to become the masterpiece that it ended to be
".why Nintendo didnt included Kafka from FF 6 ??? or even Crono from Chrono Trigger that were both succesfull and as you say started on Nintendo" I think the confusion is coming in that just like Sony, it's not up to Nintendo who to include. They may have asked these devs but it's up to the devs to sign off. Maybe Nintendo did want those Chrono characters but Square wanted Cloud seeing as he's more recognizable for that franchise. And if I remember correctly Kojima wanted Solid Snake in Smash. https://www.engadget.com/20... So yea, there is some bs justification just not really the ones you're selling here.. "Sony with PS poured a ton of money and gave freedom to the devs in order to augment the quality of video games" Positive that 3rd party devs did this themselves with their own sweat and hard work to make the master pieces that you mentioned.
dude, they cost money!
I agree that they need to get those characters if they ever plan on doing another PSASBR. The whole appeal of a game like this pitting iconic characters against each other and PSASBR failed miserably in that department. I personally didn't find the battle system bad at all, but the lack of iconic characters just made it another average fighting game.
YES!! With the right studio, a PS All-Stars sequel can be amazing. The biggest mishap of the first game was the singular focus on the super mechanic (there should have been a traditional mode and other more varied modes). Also, there definitely should have been more characters. Characters like Big daddy and the Tekken dude felt like a waste of two characters spots that could have been filled by more classical PS characters. A sequel can fix all of that with characters like Joel/Ellie, Aloy, Kratos with an axe, BB Hunter, Galahad, Crash, Cloud, etc.
With the right studio behind it, they could be sitting on a gold mine. Having Joel/Ellie, Revised Kratos, Bloodborne Hunter (YES), Galahad and Aloy just makes me dream about what could be. The first suffered from a sort of poor lineup, weak single player story, and super reliance. Not to mention you could tell it was on limited budget. Time to revisit it with a proper dev behind it.
Agreed, they should have had a Smash style mode and a All Stars style mode of knockouts. Who cares if people say they'd just be ripping off Smash Bros, it would make a better game
that or a sequel, sony pleeeeeeeease!
I believe a sequel is on the way. Hopefully it's true, and is announced at E3.
This E3 would be an awful time to announce it. Nintendo has their Smash tournament and their big E3 focus is Smash Brothers. PSABR2 would get overshadowed and pale in comparison. Even if it was the better game it doesn't have nearly the same brand recognition. They should release it in a year or two and also put it on PS5 and allow crossplay between the two.
It would be pretty funny if it were announced at e3 to get smashed. They'll definitely wait and gauge reactions to smash 5.
Nice thought doubt it'll happen.
Definitely not this year. I could see it announced maybe next year for a late 2019 or early 2020 release due to popular demand because of smash.
I loved this game.
This was fun but broken and unbalanced as all hell
That's why I stopped playing. I remember they patched Sackboy saying he was OP, then they nerfed him so much that you couldn't even get a level 3 with in in a whole normal match because they weakened his attacks and rose his Lv 3 ap amount so much it was impossible, Then they drop it by 100 and it's still near impossible. Especially in a 1v1 which makes the attack pretty wasteful in the first place. Then guys like raven can basically instakill anyone because his level one was op, and then we have nariko who's level 1 basically only has use on free for all or teams. What they need to do is have knock offs like Smash, and give everyone 1 special that they can get by being damaged. Kinda like Street Fighter 4 where you could only do your ultimate if you were around half health or less. I feel that and the fact that they need the characters to be a bit more fun. Example, nathan drake felt out of place because he moved to serious. If he's going to kick a barrel he should grab it outta nowhere in a entertaining way. Also too much characters have just a stack of still moves. I think the perfect character types was Spike Kratos Dante Raven Nariko Kat Jak Sly Fat Princess Sweet Tooth Parappa Dude from infamous (they need to change him to the new guy in Second Son) The rest need some revisions. some need to be taken out or completely redone. All those specials need to be removed and one per character. Stuff like Nariko grabbing with her level 3 and throwing or the spin move with her level 3. Ratchet using the rhyno but a better way. Jak going light or dark was good too. But again they need to have it under accumalated damage. Example, someone takes 500% of damage. So every death counts as 100 and say you die at 156% then you got 256% outta 500 and you get the rest and can use it whenever you're ready at that point. I don't know. I just figure they tried too hard to be different when other games copy smash anyways.
The first game wasn't quite done right. It's a good concept and the potential is there, but a remaster isn't the right way to go about it. Be it a reboot or a sequel, I'd rather Sony make a new game that gets it right.
Think I'd rather just see Sony try it's hand at a new fighting IP.
Don't know if it'll happen but I definitely would love a second try. my dream team for it if done Ape Escape: Spike Jak & Dexter: Jak Ratchet & Clank: Ratchet Dr. Nefarious Gravity Rush: Kat Raven God of War: Kratos Heavenly Sword: Nariko (the next younger girl) Tearaway: Iota (don't know the names lol) LittleBIGPlanet: Sackboy Toggle Knack: Knack Infamous: Delsin Cole Metal Gear: Raiden Snake (if they don't care about him being in smash before) Fat Princess: Fat Princess Bloodborne: Main character Persona: Ren(Joker) Nier: 2B or A2 prefer 2B 9S Horizon: Aloy Ni no Kuni: Evan Prefer Tani and maybe roland? Though I know roland would over her If possible Crash Bandicoot: Crash Coco Spyro: Spyro Rayman: Rayman Kingdom Hearts: Sora Aqua Alot more but I'm getting lazy lol
Add to that: Spider-Man Horizon: Aloy God of War: Boy, Baldur Yakuza: KAZUMA FRIGGIN' KIRYU, GORO FRAGGIN' MAJIMA
PlayStation All Stars is to Smash as Bullet Witch is to Bayonetta. A poor attempt to cash in on the success of a far greater game.
Correction: Bullet Witch was released in 2007. Bayonetta was released in 2010. You gotta give All-Stars some credit, though. Even if it did try to cash in on the success of Smash Bros, it was supported for over a year, and had a dedicated community who did want what was best for the game.
And I just saw someone in this comment section said PSAS’s combat is far better than Smash. Oh the delusion.
Not if it was like the first game. It needs a complete overhaul.
That game was awful, why would it come to PS4?
I enjoyed PS All-Stars but it clearly was a Smash copycat. I think Sony should've created it's own thing. Perhaps a fighter more in the mode of a Marvel v Capcom? Sony has so many great characters that weren't around during the first game. I'd love to see a sequel.
The thing is that a LOT of things have happened since the original PSASBR, so Sony can easily learn from the mistakes of previous games and enjoy a much bigger roster of exclusive characters. They can easily secure Spider-Man as a guest character thanks to Insomniac's game, and they can have Daddy Kratos, Boy, Aloy, Joel, Ellie, etc. And if they stretch their licensing muscles, I could also see characters from, say, Valkyria Chronicles, Street Fighter, Tekken or (PRETTY PLEASE) friggin' Kazuma Kiryu.
YESS It just needs to be okay that if it's going to look like Smash Bros, then just accept that it should play the same too. Then everyone would be happy!
There was so much wasted potential from the roster Like how dafuq did Isaac Clarke seriously make it in over other more famous and important PlayStation mascots
It also needs to find an appropriate/good developer. The team that made the first one (Superbot?) didn’t look capable.
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