Insomniac Games addresses amount of QTEs in the upcoming Spider-Man game (via Twitter)

When a person on Twitter voiced their concern of the amount of QTEs in the game, Insomniac said: "There are a very very minor point of the game used at cinematic set pieces”

[darthv72]

It wont be much of an issue as there are very few from what has been shown. besides, if there are... it is for cinematic effect. QTE's dont bother me.

[InTheZoneAC]

13 bots disagree

[G3ng4r]

Any sony fan should be used to QTE's by now as they're in most of their first party games, not sure where the issue is to begin with. QTE's can be seen as lazy or just something to fill out the time in bloated cutscenes but fans eat them up.

[OffRoadKing]

No ones "eating them up" they're a form of input to make things happen in a game, theres only so many buttons on a controller and if a scene is too complex to be done fully by the player a QTE is just a method for allowing interactivity through that scene which is better than having all control taken away and just watching. Whats truly lazy is your trolling, people cant find anything to complain about for this games so they grasp at straws over a game mechanic that's been around for years and has been in many games on Microsoft's console as well. Next thing you guys will complain about is pushing up on the stick to make the character walk.

[sinspirit]

When there is already a system in place for hit boxes and normal combat, with QTE's commonly being a bonus way to handle situations, it actually requires a lot more animation work along with balancing when and how they should be triggered. Because, they want to give more ways to defeat somebody than just hitting or shooting them repeatedly. Sorry, that you don't have variety in your available gameplay options.

No one is clinging onto this pitiful argument except for people writing anti Sony fan banter like yourself.

[kingfortoday]

Just as xboys love turning left every year why change anything when you can keep playing it the same forever which is beyond lazy, many can see it that way

[NeoGamer232]

QTEs have been successful in Quantic Dream games, and action games like God of War, Devil May Cry, and of course the QTE heavy Asura's Wraith for boss battles.

Insomniac are really good at platforming/action games but there use of QTE is relatively unproven.

Personally, I am not against it, but the key to QTE like Spider-Man has to be something where success in the game is not highly dependent on it.

[KickSpinFilter]

It's true I prefer sub-par limited exclusives if they come out at all, on the beast of a machine that I bought into for some reason.

[zackeroniii]

go play your sea of thieves and crackdown 3........

oh wait.

[oasdada]

LOL sony fans? you should know.. oh wait you dont because QTE's require cutscenes.. which actually requires story.. which sadly your games dont have!

[cyclindk]

This guy’s comments history is scary....

[sprinterboy]

In the UK we call people like you pricks

[G3ng4r]

Such varied responses. You all have a lot of feelings about QTE's, huh?

[GrubsterBeater]

Wasn't the Tomb Raider TIMED exclusive, that you guys championed on the XBox One, full of QTE's throughout the game?

I recall you guys calling it the greatest thing since sliced bread at that point in time, but now it's somehow this mire on gaming, that's exclusive only to Sony games?

You guys really need to stop grasping at these straws, because you guys barely have any strawmans to even create in the delusional, fantastical world of XBox fanboys.

Just know that when this game comes out to critical acclaim from critic and gamer, we will be enjoying this marvel of a game (I know..), while you get to enjoy..... PUBG..? Maybe a 360 game..?..

[Seraphim]

QTEs don't bother me when
a. done right
b. used sparingly

Its funny how what was an advancement in gaming such as QTEs became such a hindrance. If provided in a manner in which time is given and the button prompt allows you still watch the scene then QTEs are being properly used. However, when you're forced to input w/in a split second while removing your eyes from the frame of action it becomes burdensome and annoying.

[Xb1ps4]

Doesn’t bother me either when it’s done right and not over done.. the game is in good hands some ppl just need to relax and wait for September...

[SarcasticDuck]

People complain about QTE's but Telltales made a living out of just that lol

[KwietStorm_BLM]

There is a lot that has been shown. That's the whole point of the concern. Insomniac is saying it looks that way because the areas shown happen to take advantage of them. We'll have to see later.

[BlackTar187]

Your concern is so fake.

But a ps4 and stop being so bitter

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I have every PlayStation ever released. Your comment is silly as hell and unnecessary. Ironically it's typical around here. Can't have any rational discussion. Either you agree with everything or lolz buy a PS4. Too many kids on this site.

[Kashima]

Rip controller buttons.

[DigitalRaptor]

They shouldn't have to do this.

They gave the same response months back. https://twitter.com/insomni...

They person in charge of Insomniac's Twitter account is a legend but they should just start ignoring these comments.

[ShadowWolf712]

They've literally said this since the first E3 showing.

This is getting ridiculous, at this point this is more FUD than legitimate questions.

[sinspirit]

But, they have to post articles to pretend like some hidden negative thing has come up. If not for bias, it's just because it generates hits, and most of the time are from a small amateur site from clueless reviewers attempting to spark attention seeking conversation.

[81BX]

Wtf? Who cares?!?!?! Let them make the game they want to and if it's bad ... gamers will decide

[T2X]

Because people just must bitch about everything (It's our opinion!!! Our opinion MUST BE HEARD!!!) Even when something hasn't come out yet. They suck the enjoyment out of everything.

[Pennywise138]

When somebody well and not over used QTEs can be perfectly fine. They are good for keeping the player engaged during cinematic moments and can be fun when it's like a game of simon says or whatever.

[DogJosha]

The problem here is that you aren't supposed to be physically engaged during a cinematic moment. It reduces how focused you are on the cinematics meaning you will either miss content or the cinematics have to be dulled down to remain comprehensible.

At this rate, I don't understand why anyone still uses QTE's. It is clearly something most people are tired of and just costs extra resources at the end of the day.

[P_Bomb]

A few people complaining about QTEs in games like Spider-Man that they haven’t even played, isn’t representative of most people.

I’ve never missed story content in a cinematic because of a button prompt. I don’t even know how that’d be possible as they’re primarily used for simulating actions, not exposition. Some of the trickier ones I’ve done have been the sticks during GOW sex scenes. Never missed a moan, lol.

I havent seen cinematics dulled down because of them. There’s no evidence they’re killing budgets/resources. The game retails for the same $59 with or without them. Who’s honestly worried about the QTE budget? You’d save more money by cutting down on multiple language tracks and ultra high end audio like Dolby Atmos that most people can’t even use. Servers require maintenance post release. QTE’s don’t.

[DogJosha]

P_bomb, you are way off target.

"A few people complaining" Try defending QTEs by finding me games where people DON'T complain about their inclusion.

"I've never missed story content" Good for you. Too bad that was never mentioned. How detailed are the backgrounds? How would you describe the motion of the characters? How realistic is the way the person shoots the gun? These are cinematic details I'm concerned with. The fact that you mention the only detail that is easy to follow in any situation just helps my argument even more.

"No evidence they're killing budgets" Everything present in the game uses up resources. There is no such thing as a free resource. It may or may not make a huge impact, but why waste the resources either way for something that people clearly prefer to not have in the game.

As far as all the downvotes, are people just being overly protective fanboys or is this the only place on the internet that has people who enjoy QTEs? At this rate I think I'll have to enjoy this game privately instead of pretending I can hold a real conversation with fans.

[BlackTar187]

You can find some people to complain anything so your point is moot.

Telltale makes a living off them. All god of wars have been good, some better then others yes but still.

Doesn't sound like you want to hear feedback on this "conversation" you are trying to have.

[P_Bomb]

Off target? Your “missed content” comment was deliberately vague so I tried to fill in the gap, which you dismissed with a “good for you” while giving yourself a point. This non-conversation is over.

I have two friends who just beat The Order in the last week and a half. I just beat Telltales Batman Season 2 before that. They didn’t complain once about QTE’s. I didn’t complain about my game either. We’re not incessant condescending internet whiners baiting votes though, so I guess that makes a difference.

[DogJosha]

"You can find someone to complain about anything" You are right, we should all be dismissive just like you rather than evaluating complaints.

Telltale makes a niche game. It is okay to cater to your niche. Just like your highly dismissive comment, there is a niche for everything. Even highly disliked features like QTEs have a niche. That is why you make niche games rather than trying to include low popularity features in EVERY game. I like rhythm games yet I accepted when everyone got angry at Drakengard 3 for having a rhythm game for a final boss.

"This non-conversation is over" Trying to argue your point then tell the other person they can't respond? Your ego is too much...

[Ceaser9857361]

"There are a very very minor point of the game used at cinematic set pieces”
Awesome!! But but You will still find Somepeople saying
" To many QTEs". Attention to those people this tweet is for you... PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD dont say it ... Thank you.

[The Wood]

People need something to justify their vitriolic campaigns. Next up. . . some other faux concern. I think other games could of done with this kind of energy. . .whadya reckon

[Ceaser9857361]

I agree with you... It would be nice to see other games doing the same... Specially allowing gamers who haven't preordered can unlock it doing certain quest in the game.. It would be fun..

[polow got sol]

It just wouldn’t be a true Sony exclusive without qtes

[Rachel_Alucard]

Add in light on content, next to no replayability, over the shoulder perspective, social justice themes, presentation above all else, and its either a by the books last gen 3rd person shooter or gears of war ripoff with a very basic melee system.

I do play Yakuza, Persona, gravity rush, etc. I just think its dumb that Sony uses a very eerily similar template across all their big western AAA titles. I wish their unique eastern titles got the funding and exposure like they do with God of War and Uncharted.

[DigitalRaptor]

You're making no sense. None of those things you talk of, describe Sony's big western AAA exclusives this generation.

Yakuza and Persona are also not made by Sony.

[Sunny_D]

Right cause that’s what Horizon Zero Dawn was right? Or Ghost of Tshushima will be? Your bias focused on one or two games and then you just assumed all games are like that. Meanwhile, I’m trying to figure out what other console is providing as many exclusives as Sony does with high quality? There’s a reason Marvel came to Sony to make a great Spider-Man game.

[Rachel_Alucard]

@digitalraptor

When did I say Yakuza and Persona were made by Sony? All I asked is why they don't market every big platform exclusive and limit it to a small pool. Gravity Rush suffered due to this and Yakuza is forever stuck in niche AA status.

https://i.imgur.com/ZdxTMl2...
So you're saying absolutley none of the games in pic related share any similarities? I have yet to find anyone willing to play Last of us a second time or uncharted and I guarantee it'll be the same with God of war, the similarities to last of us is staggering.

@Sunny_D
Yeah it was. At least it was open world but it did nothing new for the medium with what it did. Just reused a bunch of common Ubisoft elements and other big titles. The animation and voice acting also put me off.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Lol light on content gtho Sony doesn’t produce trash like sot that’s light on content. I think Sony is more than happy with constantly releasing goty winning exclusives that sell gangbusters,loved by gamers and review well critically

[Dark_Knightmare2]

You say down below you’ve yet to find someone to play tlou or Uc more than once as if your opinion matters to anyone. I’ve played both numerous times and their mp modes are popular especially in tlou which is still going to this day

[Nyxus]

@ Rachel_Alucard: " I have yet to find anyone willing to play Last of us a second time or uncharted"

I played Uncharted 1 five times, UC2 and UC3 each 3 times and TLOU two times.

"So you're saying absolutley none of the games in pic related share any similarities?"

Yes, they all feature a character in a world, you've got me there.

[Rachel_Alucard]

@Darkknightmare
They're all boring asf and feature the same played out setups and presentation. The Order 1886 is a prime example of a Sony template game. Everyone who was into that game wanted it to be something the devs never cared for, a fun game.
If you're counting collectibles as actual content you know you have no refute to that statement. You bring up awards, sales, etc. As if that translates to a refute against it but it doesn't mean anything except people eat shit.

@Nyxus
@dark
Who said my opinion mattered? You act like your personal experience = everyone else just as mine doesn't according to you. Cinematic games have no replay value because the big draw is the story and setpieces and when you've removed that the game inside isnt very fun to come back to. Western devs tend to pitch their characters, world, plot, before making a game around that. The east pitches the games mechanics, abilities, etc then makes characters, story, etc around that. You can always tell the difference between the 2 approaches.

[Trez1234]

so much nonesense. so in your view, all first person shooters must be the same because the similarities are " staggering ". i mean, i was playing far cry 5 and a friend went " you playing call of duty again ". These games you named are different but its clear you're just picking on Sony or just dont play many games.

You mentioned Gears rippoff but nobody called Gears a Killswitch ripoff when it came out, Gears was called a great game which it was and you don't know anyone that wanted to play The last of us twice? i don't know the people you know BUT.....you and i know that most people brought that game twice and played twice atleast and if you think they didn't buy it for the campaign, then it must have great repeatability considering it has a great multiplayer mode.

third person story heavy games have a place next to first person shooters, battle royal games, RPG, sports etc...it just happens that sony are producing those at higher quality .

[Rachel_Alucard]

@Trez

Similarities =/= Same

I don't know if anyone watches Jim sterling but he made a video recently talking about "Ubification" in which Ubisoft tends to copy many elements and features of their games between one another despite the games being in completely different genres. The games while good would eventually run out of steam and everyone would just stop buying them, similar to what happened with Resident evil 6. It feels like the same thing here, with many of the titles being different yet feeling the same somehow. Insomniac is the only western Sony studio who knows how to make an engaging game rather then a cinematic hollywood reject. Spider man looks great and I wish they'd make a sunset overdrive 2 someday.

[OffRoadKing]

Or without the trolling from jealous xbox fanboys.

[trooper_]

And N4G wouldn't be the same without concern trolling.

[EsotericAnomaly]

QTEs in Spider-Man feels like a nice pairing anyway, merging Spider sense with quick reaction segments in itself is complimentary.

[Einhander1971]

Personally QTE’s don’t bother me they add to the whole experience. Face it some things can’t.be done in actual real time gamplay, QTE’s keep things flowing especially when done right.

[SirBradders]

There's nothing wrong with with QTE's in an open world game. In fact having alot in an open world game if done right adds to it not detracts.

[theshredded]

This is insomniac not Quantic Dream or Sony Santa Monica

[greywolf39]

I dont know why but somehow I like QTE in games. The action feelling is on top, to me

[OffRoadKing]

lol, so much concern for a game they're not going to be able to play anyway.

[Cmoney007]

I am sure they will not use QTEs like RE 6 did. RE 6 is an awful example of QTEs not being used properly in a game.

[Platformgamer]

QTEs are awesome if well implemented, i like them

[LoveSpuds]

I can honestly say, I have never had an issue with quick time events in games. There will always be sequences in video games that would be impossible to translate into active gameplay and the only alternative to playing a cut scene which takes control away from the gamer, is to use a QTE.

Even when I think of titles such as Azura' s Wrath or Until Dawn, I still had a fantastic time and these titles were nothing but QTEs.

The problem with the gaming media is that it is one big echo chamber, one or two pundits, usually with no game dev experience, pass comment on something minor and all of a sudden, all of the mickey mouse sites follow suit and amplify the perceived issue to such a degree that it is grossly exaggerated.

This then gives ammunition to the extremist Xbox gamers (or PS gamers with regards to XB exclusives) to bash a game they are jealous of, despite the fact that they defended the likes of Ryse previously.

[Cobra951]

My favorite number of QTEs is exactly zero.

[CaptainOmega]

I don’t think it will be that bad....

[yeastori]

But QTE are these best and funniest parts of a spiderman game

[Godmars290]

Yeah...

At this point I've come to accept that when a company "addresses" concerns that spin is being applied while directly and willfully failing to listen to concerns.

[Xavi4K]

well I hope they are honest becasue in last E3 that what the game all about

[DrumBeat]

Your friendly neighborhood QTE Man. Honestly though, not a big deal.

[Doughhead]

I didnt mind them in Ryse or The order, so I am good with it.

[RandoCommenter]

I’m not a fan of QTE’s, but if there is a ton of other interesting & fun game mechanics I don't think it will take away. See HZD

[buffig]

I think people tend to view QTEs incorrectly. They should be seen as a way of giving interaction to an otherwise passive cinematic. Would you rather sit and watch a movie of Spider-Man stopping a helicopter, or would you prefer a modicum of involvement, with the same dramatic effect. I personally would choose involvement. You don't criticise a great cinematic for having no interaction, yet this is an interactive medium. I believe everything has a place if used in a sensible fitting way and there's no need to be negative just because you see the letters, QTE.

[Twinblade]

QTE in games doesn't bother me.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

They shouldn't worry, Sony fans eat up QTEs. Just look at God of war 1-3 and uncharted 1-3.