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‘Super Mario Odyssey’: All Style, No Substance

Super Mario Odyssey is a fun time, but it's not a meaningful entry to the overall Super Mario series.

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FallenAngel1984324d ago

There’s always gotta be “that” article

NecrumOddBoy324d ago

Mario Odyssey is a very complete and wonderful game. It never feels like it wastes your time exploring the worlds and there is always something to discover. This article must be referring to Zelda.

Lighter9323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

"There is always something to discover."

More moons. That's it.

StonieWylder323d ago

"must be referring to zelda"

Botw has more things to discover than a bunch of collectables that are almost all the same.

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letsa_go323d ago

I guess you didn't do the jump rope and volleyball challenges! lol

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maxwelln323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Yep. There's obviously a need for it.

SuperSonic91323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

The problem with gamers and "successful" games today is they let brand association automatically put the product in a pedestal.
Back in the SNES N64 Gamecube days Mario and Zelda deserved the accolades because they were cutting edge games pushing the limits of game design, gameplay, graphics in all epicness.
Now Mario and Zelda games are a mere shadow of their former selves. They arw cheap cash grabs with recycled un original and stolen ideas. They pale in comparisson to other games of today.
They only sell via brand association and nostalgia.

stupidusername323d ago

@supersonic91
Really? I never know if you're a troll or if you actually believe what you are saying.

Palitera323d ago

^ really? These are some of the most creative and inspired games in the whole industry, both today and back "in the good times". Take out these hate and nostalgia goggles and you'll be able to enjoy many more games.

letsa_go323d ago

@SuperSonic91, are you sure you aren't talking about the sonic games, because then I would have to agree.

3-4-5322d ago

@ SuperSonic91 - Which games do you think are good and better than those you mentioned? If we got a sense of your gaming taste maybe your argument would go over better with people.

So yea, list us some games you really love so we can see where you can coming from on your side of the argument.

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3-4-5322d ago

Exactly. It's literally packed with more substance than entire series of games...just in this one game.

I'm so far from getting all the moons. I need to get going on that again.

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PhantomTommy324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

The first 3 paragraphs emphasize that the game is ultimately fun. When did that stop being enough? I played the game for over 50 hours and had a blast, but now I'm done. I'm not interested in completing it 100% because not EVERYTHING Odyssey does is brilliant in my opinion -- but that does not invalidate the 50+ hours of fun I had with the game. And just to touch on the point that Galaxy explores each of it's ideas to the fullest -- it kinda had to. Galaxy is a game full of gimmicks, it's good, but Mario's move-set is the most stripped back it's been in any 3D title, including 3D World. Because of that, the game feels less like a platformer and more like a collection of cool ideas that Nintendo had that were't quite good enough to justify an entire game. Odyssey can't do this because Mario's movement is so insane that most possessions can be skipped entirely -- you could tone down the movement, but then the game would be less interesting for more skillful players. As far as I'm concerned, Odyssey is all about exploiting the move-set and trying to beat levels as fast and efficiently as possible. I don't believe the intention was for all players to collect every moon, but to populate each level with enough that players could choose their own paths through each level -- cherry picking the moons that involve activities they like and ignoring activities that they don't. And no, there are no objectively good and bad activities, everyone is different.

To summarize, Odyssey is a complete mess in terms of design, but it can be bloody good fun.

maxwelln323d ago

Author here. In reference to,

"The first 3 paragraphs emphasize that the game is ultimately fun. When did that stop being enough?"

Enough for what? To enjoy something? Then yeah, it's enough. Nothing is stopping you from having fun with anything.

The article talks about how I see the series evolving in terms of design and what I think constitutes as good direction. In the article, I mention why I'm critiquing that.

letsa_go323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

@maxwelln You are a shitty writer, I'm critiquing that.

RommyReigns323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Haters gonna hate, plus it's no surprise that nobody has bothered to 'approve' this mess of a contradictory opinion piece after 19 hours since submission.

Knushwood Butt323d ago

That kinda contradicts the fans that claim any negative Nintendo article gets approved in seconds.

Prince_TFK323d ago

Well just maybe people saw how sh**** this article is and didn’t want to approve it.

chris235323d ago

funny, the headline is just the reason i stopped supporting nintendo years ago. seems like nothing has changed. rather seems like things even got worse.

SuperSonic91323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Mario 64 is a stolen game from Argonaut that the media wants to hide.
But yeah the childiah nostalgia is very strong working on Nintendo's favor.

Old McGroin323d ago

Was waiting for someone to say "nostalgia"! If that's the best and most common criticism that fanboys can level against Nintendo's top games then they're definitely doing something right!

Sirk7x323d ago

Yeah, me loving the game was simply due to convincing myself to play a crappy game nonstop, right?

letsa_go323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Sonic Adventure was just a rushed launch title that ripped off Super Mario 64. Pretty every sonic game since then SUCKED.

Segata323d ago

Mario 64 wasn't stolen. Croc was a proposed Yoshi game and turned down. Croc was ultimately a mediocre game.

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Prince_TFK323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

I wonder why you, Supersonic, and Bluefox still hang around in Nintendo articles if you guy hate it so much.

You guys say the same things again and again about Nintendo. Do you ever get tired?

SuperSonic91322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

We do not hate anything.

Its the misleading information that Nintendo fanatics spread. We have the responsibility to refute and correct as a service to all gamers.

There is a reason why Nintendo is not at the top anymore because they monopolistic agendas have been exposed.

Prince_TFK322d ago

monopolistic..? Exposed? Wtf are you on about? What are they monopolizing exactly?

Jesus, man. Get a grip.

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