How Long can Destiny 2 Continue to Disappoint its Audience?

Screen Critics Shaun laments the current state of Destiny 2, asking how long fans should be made to wait for the game they really want.

[Hardiman]

Yeah I didn't play the first one and have no desire to play part two but I don't think it's fair to those who are fans and have supported this series!

[freshslicepizza]

I wanted to try it out on the PC. The game isn't bad but I really don't like supporting these types of busniess models, especially locking players out so they have to buy DLC. That DLC by the way came out just a few months after the game released which goes to show it's all planned to try and maximize revenue even before release.

[InTheZoneAC]

it was known it would be out a few months after, just like D1 had its DLC.

[PapaBop]

At the end of the day, it's Bungie's loss. Destiny is their only game, they can't afford to lose the goodwill of their long term fans. Yet so far, they seem more intent on abusing that goodwill than honouring it. I can't believe how their first expansion for D2 turned out as someone who played the original daily ever since launch.

[joab777]

Millions would have supported and played this game every day if they weren't so damn shady.

[-Foxtrot]

Hate to tell people I told them so....buuuuut

[Cursediixxxii]

Most people got their $60 out of D2....you can complain about the end game but that’s more than most games can say

[Neonridr]

so we just got to the first DLC and already we are using that excuse? Sheesh..

[rocketpanda]

People got their money's worth by doing the same boring things over and over again before they realized Bungie sold then a hollow products that is paper thin. Consumers bought into the hype(again) thinking Bungie actually learnt from their mistakes in D1, but that is too much to ask.

[CrimzonRazor]

What they learned from the first one is they can get away with it.

[maybelovehate]

Probably a long time. As much as everyone likes to complain, there is no better coop shooter available to play. The Division was supposed to be that game, but the gameplay wasn't within a million miles of Destiny. Mass Effect 3 was hoped to be.. but same situation. Anthem will be the next game to hopefully take Bungie off that pedestal but we will see. Disappointment isn't the same thing as not liking something. Most of the audience, enjoys Destiny, they just want it to be more.

[CorndogBurglar]

To be fair, Mass Effect, Division, and Anthem are all 3rd person shooters. (I think Anthem is, isn't it?) Even if they were better than D2, which they aren't, there just aren't any other FPS shooters that offer co-op like Destiny.

I stand by all my previous comments. D1 and D2 offer the most fun I've had playing with my buddies than any other game. I had something like 700 hours in D1 and we are still enjoying the Nightfalls and weekly missions in D2.

Is it perfect? Nope. But it offers something no other FPS game does, which is a fantastic co-op experience.

[_FantasmA_]

Actually there is a better game that does co-op better than Destiny 2, it's called Destiny (1). I played D2 for a month and then deleted it from my hard drive to make space for Destiny 1. I appreciate Destiny 1 even more now and it seems to run smoother now that there's less people online.

[maybelovehate]

Destiny 1 is definitely awesome but I prefer Destiny 2. Mostly due to the gameplay. Destiny 1 had great gunplay but the engine had some weird quirks. The sprint cooldown being the most annoying but also the missing perks we got with Destiny 2 in the Rifts, Barricades, Dodge etc. Also love the team work aspects of the Barricades and Rifts. Just took that coop play to another level.

[_FantasmA_]

The barricades and rifts are decent, but they aren't a game changer and don't really make me feel like a badass like D1's supers did. The specials in D2 just don't feel special. The magic is gone in D2. The only good thing about D2 is the static perks on the guns, I hated the RNG in Destiny 1 because it didn't matter if you played everyday, you still didn't get the gun you wanted. I have still not gotten an Eyasluna with sureshot/truesight, rangefinder, and rifled barrel. And yet some newcomer can play this game for 2 months and get one regardless of skill. Destiny 1 loot system was broken. They should just let you level up the guns in D2 and you unlock the perks as you get more kills with it. Also, the token system in D2 is trash because again it goes back to RNG.

[PapaBop]

So much this. If you actually look at the features of Destiny 1, it actually sounds like a sequel to Destiny 2.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I'd go back and play Borderlands 2 any day instead of Destiny.

[Ricegum]

I'm playing BL2 still to this day. Still completely overshadows Destiny even after all this time.

[Neonridr]

I just want more content.. less drip-feed. They keep telling us each update is going to be monumental. Everyone buys in and drinks the kool-aid. Then the update is mediocre. A short story of missions, a couple of new strikes and a new raid "lair". So content you can evaporate in less than a week.. then it's back to grinding nonsense again and again.

[maybelovehate]

Are they really telling you that though? This DLC and the DLC in spring are both supposed to be minor expansions. Next fall will be the first big expansion. Destiny is a very advanced game. The graphics, physics and AI aren't something that can just be thrown together. They are working as fast as they can.

[Neonridr]

@maybelovehate - I don't doubt that the game isn't advanced. I am merely saying that they hype up these expansions and then we realize that after a day or two there's nothing left to do except wait for the next expansion. I am a day 1 Destiny 1 player and logged well over 1000 hours in that game.

I am just wiser this time around with D2.

[JeffGUNZ]

@ Neonridr

They didn't tell us this was going to be monumental at all. They literally showed people via live stream what you were getting in gameplay. I think people expect the world in every DLC and set their expectations too high. These minor DLC's are about raising the light level, giving people new weapons to chase, and giving some minor content updates. Come September of 2018, if they don't release a MASSIVE DLC, then this game may be in serious trouble.

[Neonridr]

@Jeff - maybe I am just looking for something fun to do in the game.. I dunno. Grinding the same activities over and over gets boring real fast.

[Chaosdreams]

*Shrug*

I'm more intrigued by how so many people willingly let themselves be treated so poorly, and pay for it.

[Smitty2020]

Didn’t bother with the dlc, got bored,dam too easy to level up n max out

[HyperMouse]

I dont know what happened but after the last update it is crazy easy to get to 300 light level

[boldscot]

Until they release Destiny 3.

[Ricegum]

Or Borderlands 3, and hopefully everyone forgets about Destiny.

[TheOttomatic91]

An eternity

[bangoskank]

I'm actually really enjoying the D2 beta. Do you really need to pay for story progression and high level gear?

[maybelovehate]

As in Microtransactions? No, but you will need to buy the DLC if you want to keep up with the game as it expands.

[bangoskank]

Thanks. May skip just because I don't want to support EA.

[FreddyFazbear]

This is Activision not EA

[bangoskank]

Same bs

[LostInSpaceCamp]

Literally forever. It’s an Activision game.

[bluefox755]

I don't understand why they can't structure the content to have more longevity. There are many other series that are all about loot grinds, but they somehow manage to keep players busy for months and even years. Hell, people are still playing Diablo 2, 17 years after release.

[maybelovehate]

Does Diablo really have more longevity? Don't get me wrong one of my favorite series of all time but I don't play it as much as Destiny. One of the reasons is that they don't have complex game types like raids. Can only do rifts for so long.

[showtimefolks]

I remember originally reading about bungie wanting to do something other than halo. Being a fan of borderlands loot and mass effect I remember reading

Destiny will have game play like halo, story with choices like mass effect and loot like borderlands

Instead all we got is gameplay like halo

[jc12]

I thought the game was quite good...just too short. I beat it in about 10 hours.

[Kaii]

We've activated this heroic event, completing this difficult scenario should reward us with something awesome, right ? 1 blue + 2 coins = -_-

They're not stupid, with the current dlc locking out endgame content In the base game they wanted to force players to purchase this new expansion, and what did they get ? Destiny 1 Exotics . . . . Obviously that new scrapped pvp map, wait not scrapped ? They were able to make use of it with 1 event only & some kill order patrol missions :O

Disappointing the audience is one thing, but they are constantly dropping the ball, You don't extend xp cap for more storytelling, You do it because the CEO of Eververse was handing out too many free gift bags per level, now they currently want to hire someone to put actual gear with stats onto the Eververse store, If at this point you still think they care, you're fucked

Fuck game balance, look at Diablo 3 & go to town

[Team_Litt]

If they didn't learn their lesson with Destiny 1 then it's their own fault Bungie should absolutely keep exploiting them.
Reach was my last Bungie game and I intend to keep it that way until they break away from Activision.

[InKnight7s]

Destiny is overall a joke. No explorations, just sites that feel nothing different and they suppose to be a planets. Transporting from planet to planet is a huge lame. Halo + call of duty will result to this thing.

[FreddyFazbear]

As long as there are gamers who always supports "MP only" games at Full price with Microtransactions... Im just glad Nintendo and sony still doing what the gaming industry should be.

[lellkay]

I was actually really enjoying Destiny 2... but the new DLC is such a rip off and locked me out of content.... Bungie aren't learning and therefor I am out until they do something really really impressive to draw people back.

[MadLad]

Grabbed this for $25 and, honestly, even then I feel ripped off. Very, very repetitive game. Going to try a little of the end game, being I am about to end the single player content, and have fully leveled ... but I doubt I'm getting more than 15 hours or so out of this.
Grabbed Division during the Steam sale they had this week and, honestly, I paid the same amount, admittedly for an older game, but the experience is leagues above what I got with Destiny 2. Which I just held off and got this not even a week later.

Wasted money.

[mochachino]

I uninstalled it when I heard they made previously available content unavailable (including achievements) unless you pay more for DLC. Before that, they intentionally limited your XP to push you torwards buying engrams.

I don't really respect Bungie enough anymore to reinstall. The Halo love is long gone.

[Flipflopp]

Destiny 2 should have been sold at half price and should not be advertised as having any type of lasting replay. They released this game with half of the old exotic weapons and gear from the first game. If you take away the recycled weapons and gear, you pretty much have half a game. Same enemies to fight against. Weak story. It's like they took everything they learned from D1 and tossed it. Bungie doesn't listen to the community and take offense to anyone who critiques their game in any negative way. I feel like they took all left over content that didn't make it into D1 and mash it up to create D2.