The Xbox One X Is A Tough Sell

Kotaku : The Xbox One X does exactly what it’s meant to do, but who is it for? Is it worth buying the most powerful game console ever? Let’s discuss on today’s Kotaku Splitscreen.

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ZehnDrachen1316d ago

Considering one needs to also buy a bigger HDD for all of the 4k textures. One will be spending $600+ after taxes just to play the same games.

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

that's the case for any console. None of them come with a hard drive big enough for most gamers.

Prince_TFK1314d ago

You are right. And to think people here bitch and moan about the Switch needing additional SD card.

TFJWM1314d ago

I hate to delete games but yes the HDs are big enough having 150g games in a 1TB drive hurts thou. Even so unless you are playing 8 different games at once you should be fine unless you have caps on downloads.

G20WLY1314d ago

Have you seen the patch sizes for old games on Xbox One X? Quantum Break was already 138Gb with standard assets!

This is why it's MORE of an issue on the X, it's not about unfairly singling it out. It's certainly highlighted an issue that was already there.

cbuc11251314d ago

But they don't all cost $500 baseline. That was his point.

badz1491314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )


are you seriously defending a 32GB storage? games are getting bigger and 1TB won't be enough for PS4 and Xbone and you are here defending Nintendo for a meager 32GB? seriously?

you can find a 2TB external HDD for cheaper than a 256GB microSD. so what's your point?

BigWan781314d ago

G20WLY ...

How do u expect things to be when PS5 & Xbox Next come about?

Games files arent going to shrink goin forward u know..

G20WLY1314d ago

^we're talking 2 or more years away. I expect memory to be cheaper and for next gen consoles therefore to have bigger HDDs built in.

That seems reasonable to me?

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

Some of you are arguing resolution only...I think quite a few of you forget that even though the PS4 had better resolution than the X1 on most games when first released more than a few of those same games had better frame rates or less frame rate issues on the X1. The differences between the X and the Pro are NOT just resolution. The differences are across the board and still very noticeable on 4k tv's. I can't see why some of you are trying to deflect that. The Pro is a very good system but with all the good Sony did with its base model it dropped the ball a bit with the Pro. MS did the exact opposite with the X. It hit a home run with the console. Also resolution has never been a big concern with me. I personally think checkerbarding looks great but lets face facts, we live in a time were superior numbers or tech stats reign supreme. The X will now win that "argument" every time for consoles the next three years at least. For me I am much happier to see higher res textures, better lighting and frame rates...The higher res is just a bonus.

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Toby_19811314d ago

I agree with the article

blackblades1314d ago

A good 4k tv, console, hdd, games plus taxs unless military.

maybelovehate1316d ago (Edited 1316d ago )

Let's look at the latest releases of games on Xbox and Playstation.. Forza 7, GT Sport, Assassins Creed Origins, Shadow of War, Sonic Forces, COD, Wolfenstien.. Xbox One clearly wins the game argument here. Forza is better than GT and Xbox One X offers a better gaming experience on all the third party games.

And once you add in the UHD BluRay to round out the entertainment experience it isn't really even close.

KickSpinFilter1316d ago

Wow cute how you left out all the PS4 exclusives that have released this year, plus AAA 3rd party DLC first to PS4. PS4 Pro being 100 bucks cheaper, Where your friends are.
And remember...
Checker board rendering and Native 4K are of diminishing returns: It's like comparing Sand at two different beaches at 6 feet away. The Org XB1 and PS4 was like comparing boulders and rocks at the beach.
As the resolutions go higher and higher, the human eye is going to notice less of a difference between to resolutions like Native/Checker, especially at 6 to 8 feet or more away from a screen where most reside when playing console games. Sure extra textures and graphical effects are def a bonus but are we really gonna see it with the parity needed between the org Xbox and X. So far we've seen nothing that extraordinary.
But UHD BluRay ya I'll give ya that.

maybelovehate1316d ago

I specified latest releases. As for the Resolutions.. I can tell the difference very clearly on my 65" TV. But not all people have good eyes so maybe you have an argument there, extra cost of glasses might come into play for those users.

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

Funny when Xbox fans were making similar arguments in regard to having the console with lower resolution they were chastised, but for some reason it is fine and dandy if a Sony console now suffers from the same crippling issues? Ok with that....Also, $100 to someone with a job is nothing and the higher the resolutions get where more details are exposed the more the human eye will pick up. Not the other way around. That's just wishful thinking.

WilliamSheridan1314d ago

@lastcenturyrob well that's the point, isn't it? Sony fans have been ranting and raving about graphics being superior. And only after the X is announced did they switch to the claim that they have better games. I don't care who has more games. I care about the good ones, and it's a tie to me, which is why I own both.

But the point is you ranted and raved graphic superiority. Now it's time to eat crow and suck it up...

TFJWM1314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

@LastCenturyRob I think you are missing the argument. Take AC Origins for example which has a marketing deal with MS no less. The differences are non-existent watching on a 4k TV at normal viewing distance. That was not the case for xbox 1 to ps4... The differences in graphics(just a rez boost so far) are minuscule and anyone that cared so much about graphical difference would have already invested in a pst4 or a ps4 pro if 3rd party game looks are so important.

Markusb331314d ago

Well said you beat me to it.
Trouble is some people don't like the truth

jasonpugh1314d ago

Yeah those half a dozen single player exclusives really make me want to spend an additional $400 on an inferior system and hardware.

KickSpinFilter1314d ago

@LastCenturyRob The difference is it's not crippling issues this time, it's just lower resolutions.
That's the difference. $100 might not be a big deal for you are me but you bet this holiday season it's gonna play out with parents buying gifts. PS4 and XB1 are going to sell more than Pro and XB1X period sure this month will go to a newly release console. But come December it will be back to normal. Sorry kiddo.

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TheVetOfGaming1314d ago

That was a terrible comparison.

bolimekurac1314d ago

its not about whats better and who wins. why is it so hard for gamers just to game together, some people like sony, some like xbox , some like nintendo, some like pc. theres great stuff on the ps4 side and theres great stuff on xbox.

why does everyone need to hate and try to persuade people otherwise.

the xbox one x itself is awesome and with that blueray player its a nice plus. great system overall.

ErogeMaster1314d ago

Cause Xbox has no games we all can't be like star trek and get along.

UKmilitia1314d ago

this is my issue mate,
either a gamer like it seems you are,or a bitch which is seems most on here are.
i won't be getting the xb1x as im happy with my ps4 pro but i wish it luck.
2 great consoles and gamers win

KickSpinFilter1314d ago

Never said it was a bad system, it's just these Xberts coming in thinking it's the second coming. It's not. Base model will sell better after first month release of XB1X. And Same with PS4 will sell better than Pro. After the hardcore buy it's race to the bottom of cost. Just how it is. PS4 base will continue to sell more than all of them.
Switch is the who knows honestly.

Markusb331314d ago

In your view, another view is people are thinking about playing spiderman and God of war, days gone, last of us 2 etc.
Hardcore ms fans are the first adopters after that you can't hit mass market or the casuals based on 3rd party games that look better with a 4k tv. Generally mums and dads won't go for the x, if it has to be xbox the S is an easier sell.

Yohshida1314d ago

Cant really argue with that. You can also add Super Lucky and PUBG to the list while PS got nothing new after GT Sport for this year. Guess who has now games now. Gotta love the trolls.

G20WLY1314d ago

Yeah, let's not count VR, because Xbox doesn't have it. Gotta love the trolls.

Yohshida1314d ago

Because so many ppl own vr, right?

G20WLY1314d ago

Because so many ppl own Xbone, right?

KickSpinFilter1314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

Hey forgot about the rest of the year. lol
Here is the difference.
Sony on purpose or not keeps away from the holidays for the Custer-F of AAA 3rd party games battling out for position. Sony releases Exclusives for the rest of the year with no contest.
MS blows it wad in the holidays with 3rd party offerings and really offers nothing all year.
Me personally rather have it the Sony way: played many exclusives all year and got most of them out of the way before big 3rd parties hit.
in 2018 on purpose or not perhaps MS is catching onto this also with Crackdown 3 pushed (although I think other issues are abreast)
Super Lucky was not really good and PUBG well next year+ that's gonna come out for PS4.
Cuphead looks awesome. Gears 4 and Quantum Break are games I do want but it's just not enough.
It's rather shallow

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XisThatKid1314d ago

Wrong besides better resolution and For a Forza but I don't care about racing games. Your dead wrong on multiple levels besides being Xbox fanboy (hate that term)

4U2NV1314d ago

Keep thinking these dumb thoughts 🙄. As someone who was initailly an xbox gamer to begin with last gen, i gotta say the xbox fanbase is completely deluded. Full of dumb idiodic casual gamers that enjoy playing the same dudebro shooter and racer games every year and yet believe it is the best thing ever. Lol microsoft has you well and truly duped and brainwashed.

Glad i have once and for all left this brain dead xbox community, and i will NEVER go back.

And trust me i was a dedicated xbox fan back in the day but you weirdos are so embarrassing its unreal.

KickSpinFilter1314d ago

They're are Xberts and then Xbox fans/gamers. A large difference.

Razzer1314d ago

Anyone looking to buy a console is going to consider the entire game library. All the games are new to them. In that regard, PlayStation wins and it isn't really even close.

Dragonscale1314d ago

You're just cherry picking. And no, Forza isn't better than GT lol.

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XiNatsuDragnel1316d ago

It is tough to sell this niche console

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KickSpinFilter1314d ago

No question as it was to sell a Pro. Not sure why these Xberts think the X is the second coming.

Lennoxb631315d ago

It's as tough a sell as any premium product.

Skankinruby1314d ago

Never in my life will I understand what people see in iPhones. I messed around with the X a little bit at the store today and wasn't impressed at all. Nice they got rid of the ridiculous thumbprint scanner though

Omnislashver361314d ago

IPhone X is an incredibly hard sell to 95% of the population. Most people won't even consider it.

Lennoxb631314d ago

The iPhone X isn't going to sell 1/4 the amount of the iPhone 8. At least not until it drops in price.

KickSpinFilter1314d ago

Here's the difference iPhone at this point is almost more of a utility, and does far, far, far more than a console does.
XB1X/PS4Pro is more of a luxury item, not as important as a phone.
Common sense says hello Lol!

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GamingSinceForever1314d ago

The 8 was their worst selling phone ever, and the X sold out within an hour. My point is their are 2 versions out and the premium one isn't in fact selling better.

Saigon1314d ago

You meant to say is, right?

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

A "tough sale" that's selling out.

Bhai1314d ago

Haha yeah as in Japan, 7 preorders sold out :D !!!

I'm actually waiting out for Nov NPD and the holiday season to see how a 'new console' fares against the weak old PS4 and Switch.

PFFT1314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

Actually no The Xbox One X is selling quite well. The Gamestop stocks have been selling out. Its selling much better than the Pro ever did.

Bhai1314d ago

Well PFFT, we'll see about that soon enough, and what to say how much stock Gamestop had from the beginning... and apart from the upgrading ones, its posing to be a hard sell alright... NPDs it is then, right? ;)

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

Japan? Could literally care less about Japan. Switch is doing well and that's good, but that is because it is a handheld. Traditional console gaming is on the decline in Japan and has been for a while. Their take on the X or any Xbox brand is no concern to me. Also, the hundreds of thousands of Xbox X units that have already sold elsewhere is saying a lot for the the new console that every Sony fan has been dissing for month now.

outsider16241314d ago

"Funny when Xbox fans were making similar arguments in regard to having the console with lower resolution they were chastised"
Yeah, well, for a console costing 100$ more than the ps4, you'd think they'd have native 1080p.

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

IF it didn't have the Kinect that could have been a possibility. MS tried to sell the Kinect to everyone and it backfired. Lesson learned from them seeing how powerful the X is....Still admire them a bit for trying to push new technology and a different way of gaming...They just went in the wrong direction. Life goes on.

Markusb331314d ago

Here we go again. My local grocer sold out of pears yesterday. Mind you he only had 25. Retail only take allocation and what they think they can sell. There is no sale or return. It's too risky buying tons of a product that you have no idea if you will sell all your quantity

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

That is not a very good analogy seeing you are using your own bias to form an opinion. Companies such as gamestop have teams of marketers and annalists that dictate months in advance what they are going to sell. The X has been looking strong long before it was released with plenty of interest as well. Gamestop most likely ordered ore than you think. You should contact them and ask what their total numbers were before assuming they were minor. Who knows they might even tell you.

Dragonscale1314d ago

Its literally just come out and the xbox fanboys are currently buying them. Of course its selling now, its the future you need to worry about.

LastCenturyRob1314d ago

More than just "fanboys" are purchasing the consoel little troll.

Dragonscale1313d ago

You mean like more than just fanboys bought the xbone, not. Lol.

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