Diablo 3: Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro dynamic res showdown

Cited as an example of ultra HD gaming on Microsoft's list of Xbox One X enhanced titles, Diablo 3 is an evolution of Blizzard's good work on the PlayStation 4 Pro version of the game. The same principles are in place: the game targets a native 2160p presentation, but utilises a dynamic scaler to lock to the target 60 frames per second, adjusting the pixel count on the fly to ensure consistent performance. And just like the PS4 Pro version, Xbox One X benefits from a smattering of visual enhancements too. But the question is, just how close are the two versions? And to what extent does Xbox One X's higher spec translate into a closer lock to a native 4K?

[freshslicepizza]

"What's clear is that as good an upgrade as the PS4 Pro version is, Xbox One X goes one better, with a much closer lock on the target 4K resolution. In PS4 Pro's case, a full 3840x2160 is only hit around interior areas, like the bar at New Tristram, or small dungeons. But in practice, Sony's machine tends to run at lower numbers in the town itself - while Xbox One X hits 4K almost perfectly throughout."

Looks to be quite an upgrade from the regular Xbox One.

[Obscure_Observer]

@moldybread

Yeah, would be interesting if they had included the OG console in this comparisson as well.

[darthv72]

Never played a Diablo game but I hear good things.

[Babadook7]

Well. I believe xbox one x wins this one. Thank goodness for 3x zoom.

[Bahamut]

Considering the price of the console, I'd HOPE the Xbone X could play this 5 year old game at 4k.

[_LarZen_]

Most modern PC’s can’t even rund this old game at 4K 60fps.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

So why doesn’t the Pro do it since the game is so old ?

[itsmebryan]

The price. LMAO if $100 will make or break you then you have bigger problems. Well we know a $400 "premium" console can't handle 4k and a 5 year old game. But, I guess you get what you paid for. Smh

[Nodoze]

But, I guess you get what you paid for. Smh

We sure do. A healthy library of software with some AMAZING first and third party exclusives that you cannot play anywhere else. Anyone with a PS4 and PC is good to go. No need at all for the 1X.

[timotim]

You didnt think this one through enough did you?

[Gazondaily]

LOL oh dear

[S2Killinit]

pretty close though. I mean, its slightly sharper on x as expected. But not much of a difference.

@itsmebryan
well, I mean with the Pro you are also getting exclusive games (you know that thing that sells consoles). Since the resolution is the only thing the x has over its competition, we need to know what difference you are paying $550+ for.

[EatCrow]

As oppposed to 100 less and cant manage.

[spreadlove]

Xbox One X is a true 4k console, or should i say native.

[GNCFLYER]

No it isn't. Lots of upscaling with it as well. Check out the list.

If it stayed at 4k native then you can call it that. It also drops resolution. Not as much as pro but it does.

Did you see them in motion, they look identical. Keep the fanboy wars at a minimum please . That way we can have real discussions.

[zaherdab]

true or fake whatever looks good i'll take it ... doesnt have to be the best version of hte game ever; u will game where your friends in these games regardless .... if it was a question of power noonne would have bought the original xbox one

[CoryHG]

U meant dynamic

[MagicBeanz]

Yeah it uses checkerboard rendering just like Pro and according to this very article drops from the 4K target just like Pro so yeah defenitly a "True" 4K console just like Pro.

[2pacalypsenow]

Unless it renders every game in Native 4k, its not a true 4k console.

[NoPeace_Walker]

butchertroll

"Diablo 3 ISN'T NATIVE 4K on XboneX. 

Spreadlove SPREADING lies!"

Man, chill out. It is only videogame, it is not life or death. No need to shout and replying to every comment that say it is. LOL

[Dannylew]

n.. it's not a true 4k console.

[EatCrow]

@GNC
You should know that its only recently that devs have been trying to mantain steady fps throughout a game.
Not too long ago...sure 1080p but fps would fluctuate all over the place.

The resolution goes down to keep the steady fps...if it didnt then the fps would drop...its not to say it cant run it on 4k throughout.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

How can you disagree with the real truth?

[GNCFLYER]

Which is what 1x owners should be looking at. It's quite the upgrade from the OG xbox1. Pro, not as much.

Comparing your 1x games with xb1 will give you better results. I watched the video. They had to pause and zoom in on hair for God's sake. You think you can see that while playing them side by side, no.

The 1x is a res upgrade like the PS4 was to the x1.

My neighbor has a og1 since launch. I've had PS4 since launch and usedbto play BField on his and him on mine. Couldn't see the difference.

[timotim]

Why are you getting down voted when all you was state facts which DF revealed haha?

[MagicBeanz]

I think the stand out quotes are "almost perfectly" and "it's especially interesting because both machines are dropping from the target 4K". Man so close.

[Dannylew]

yes.. all good.. bt sony never says that every game are able t run in native 4k at 60fps locked with graphics clearly enanched like ULTRA settings on pc....

but it's a shame that microsoft says all this things and a game from 2010 don't run at 4k native 60fps FIXED without dynamic res.. it's only a shame..
500 for this ?.. no thanks.. a console without nothing is a device that have to stay on the resellers.

500 ... and it's not capable and no.. it's not a true 4k native hardware.

[freshslicepizza]

Show me where Microsoft said that every game is going to run at native 4k and 60fps. They didn't even say all games were going to be native 4K, it's just something you guys fabricated because it was known from the start Microsoft was going to allow third party to do what they wish.

[Christopher]

Moldy, Microsoft stuck their foot in their mouth with the "true 4k" advertising which they are still saying today. You can argue meaning, but you can't argue how that is purposefully being used to sell an idea that isn't really true.

As to others here, I do question if the people arguing the $100 more for Xbox One X and looking better but not always 4k spent $400 on hardware that hits 4k even less often if at all. Seems like if your logic is too gauge price with ability to hit 4k, both options would be bad investments.

[Rude-ro]

Three consoles in 4 years... it better be better or they would be the laughing stock of the world.

[TankCrossing]

Nice, though I'd say it is a surprise that the Pro isn't getting better results, more-so than any impressive feat for the X. D3 isn't all that taxing.

Still, it is a fun game in spats. I might pick up the Necromancer DLC.

[maybelovehate]

Awesome game and it can be very taxing. The amount of ai and effects on screen is rather insane.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Well it can be taxing so that is a lie

[TankCrossing]

Not a lie. I'm basing this on PC performance, where 4k60 was attainable when this game launched. It doesn't take a power house PC.

Obviously it isn't completely trivial to run as not even the X locks 4k completely. I just think the Pro could do better if Blizzard (or whoever handled the patch for them) really needed it too.

[Christopher]

4k60 was not attainable at release unless you forgot that they stored so much in the cloud that you got server response lag which caused stuttering to happen very often. Let alone it definitely wasn't possible with all the best textures and effects running on screen at once.

[TankCrossing]

^^ Based on what?

Here are some benchmarks from 2012 when the game released:
https://www.techspot.com/re...

Unfortunately 4k isn't benched, but at 1600p the GTX 680 and the Radeon 7970 both run the game at 108fps. It is a quite safe assumption that either card could run 4k60 or there abouts. Stands to reason a single R9-290 would smash 4k60 (and I promise you it does).

So back full-circle, I'm surprised the Pro doesn't put in a better result.

[Weeblordbad]

In 2012 no one was running this at 4k and it sure as hell wouldn't be easy even with a pair of GTX 680's.

4k in 2012 lol, that's rich.

[TankCrossing]

In 2013 I was running it 4k30 stereoscopic 3d, so yeah 4k 60 was well within reach.

[Weeblordbad]

I'm calling bullshit.

Or you actually had 5k+ to spend on a display.

[TankCrossing]

Call what you like. I had a Samsung UE55F9000, and it cost a little over £2000.

[Zeke68]

@ Tank
You can stop lying now, at august 2013 it was relased at a MUCH higher price than £2000:
"Evidence of this comes from British electrical retailer Currys, which has over this week put up a preorder page for the Samsung UE55F9000 priced at £4,299, with an availability date of between 4-6 weeks which brings us to August"
Source:
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/n...

"In 2013 I was running it 4k30 stereoscopic 3d, so yeah 4k 60 was well within reach."
Not on that TV for sure...
You know it's not hard to google the spec's on your TV.. so once again, stop lying.

[TankCrossing]

@Zeke68 i didn't even mention the RRP, and i don't really see what the price of my AV equipment has to do with how demanding D3 is.

Still, because it irks me to be called a liar for no apparent reason:
-I had a Samsung UE55F9000 until I gave it to my Sister last year.
-I had 2 r9-290Xs under water.
-I used the Tridef 3D software
-Both the cards and the TV were limited by the HDMI spec, so 4k30 SBS 3D was the best I could do in 2013
-a couple of years later I upgraded the One Connect box on the TV to the 2015 model and got a Club3D displayport to HDMI 2.0 adapter, finally attaining 4k60 on that TV
-I played Diablo 3 a bit just to see how much better it was at 60fps (footnote: A lot better).

And that little story brings us nowhere. All we've really learned is the value of being thorough in your research, which has nothing to do with how the Pro handles Diablo what-so-ever.

[TankCrossing]

And for reference, here is an article from 1177 days ago where I mentioned it:
http://n4g.com/news/1569929...

Oh and 1504 days ago
http://n4g.com/news/1357291...

[MegaMohsi]

TLDR: Xbox One X version hits native 4k most of the time as opposed to the Pro version which averages 1628-1728p. X version has the same high end features found in the Pro and PC versions. No high resolution textures. Performance is fantastic across the board.

[Bahamut]

So for the people who absolutely need the native 4k, they can spend the extra $100. They won't get the best games that this console generation has given us (Playstation and Nintendo own those, sorry), but they will have the strongest console to play 3rd party games for $500 plus tax.

[maybelovehate]

Looks like they did an amazing job.. Now please add HDR please

[Obscure_Observer]

Another Native 4K on the X.

[Pancit_Canton]

I don't know what's more pathetic, DF keeps comparing a year old and cheaper console to the XboneX or The PS4 Pro can keep up with the XboneX even though it's a year old and $100 cheaper.

[kevnb]

Well they have to compare it to something, but the $100 price difference is quite significant.

[Pancit_Canton]

Well a PC with similar specs and price point would be nice.

[LateNightThirst]

Really not when you put into perspective the One X also features a built in 4K Blu Ray drive, which will net you at the cheapest like an additional $75 dollars. And most people buying the Pro own 4K TVs and thus attain to 4K media consumption. That isn't in coupling in the fact that to get 3D audio on the Pro you need to buy another $150 headset to get it while on the X you can run it through your speakers for free or you can spend like $15 and get it to work artificially on all headsets

[kevnb]

barely anyone cares about having a 4k blu ray drive though, 4k video is going to be mostly consumed via streaming and not over priced disks. Also, who has 3d audio setup at home?

[TankCrossing]

@Kevb it is fair to say most people do not care about audiovisual quality enough to invest in UHD Blu-ray. Some people do care though, and it is quite typical for the people that care about AV quality in games to be the very same people that care about the AV quality in films.

Guess which people the Xbox One X is aimed at?

[Black0ut]

@kev

Don't speak for me because I care and have a large collection of 4k movies. I know a fair few people that have the same. Many entertainment enthusiasts do care about having the entire 4k content available on discs as it makes a surprisingly big difference, let alone not everyone can stream 4k content due to restrictions...

4k drives are a nice selling point for the console.

[kevnb]

if they were smart the 4k bluray would be optional, even among those that want 4k games barely anybody cares about uhd bluray. You can already stream at close enough to 4k bluray quality that even sony knows its a bad idea forcing it in the console. Mind you im not saying there isnt anybody who wants 4k bluray, but its not even on par with people who buy vinyl. 90% of people arent going to pay $20-$30 a movie just to avoid some possible barely noticeable compression. Maybe if companies smarten up and start charging less things could change, but I doubt they will and streaming is just going to keep getting better and killing disk based media.

[kevnb]

You also have to realize a big blow to uhd disks is that you simply cant rent movies a very many places anymore, certainly not uhd disks. People will keep buying games because they actually want to keep them, people just watch movies once and thats it.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Soupy textures and much lower res is keeping up, lol ok.

[Cmv38]

Df seems very pro xbox. The tone of articles when it was ps4 vs xb1, seemed disappointed. Never really praising the ps4 the way the xbx is being praised. But I'm not on that site every day.

[Sm00thNinja]

Digitalfoundry was everyone's go to until they started praising the Xbox One X. It did seem like Microsoft buttered them up by giving them a sneak peak under the hood and since then DF has been pretty high on the X

[TankCrossing]

Go back and read some of their Pro coverage, that was also very positive. They generally stick to an enthusiastic, positive tone across the board, and piss off one contingent of fans or the other as they go.

[GNCFLYER]

Bingo. I've been eagerly awaiting their 1x analysis. They were also very pro x360..

You don't have to be on their site to figure it out. You are word for word 100 percent correct.

Just wait until you hear all their use of adjectives and excitement in their voices on upcoming tests. They are as bad as people here and gaf.

[Black0ut]

Uhh, everyone seemed to love DF's verdicts when it was the xbox getting the crappy results 90% of the time. Now it's "pro xbox" because the more powerful console receives the higher quality results? Dude...come on...

[LoveSpuds]

Digital Foundry have justified their whole existence by sewing discord amongst an already divided gaming community by exaggerating their results, they have been doing it for years. The fact that they have to freezeframe and then zoom in so much with each comparison to try and establish differences just demonstrates how exagerated there results really are.

They used to review graphics cards and processors but take a guess at what brings in the views even more reliably, that's right, pointless videos nitpicking over differences between Xbox and PlayStation.

[hamburgerhill]

I'm glad they're zooming in . It really shows you just how much more superior the X is.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Pancit-Canton

"I don't know what's more pathetic, DF keeps comparing a year old and cheaper console to the XboneX or The PS4 Pro can keep up with the XboneX even though it's a year old and $100 cheaper."

Cry me a river. The PS3 was released a year after the Xbox 360 costing 300 bucks more and turns out that 90% of all multiplats games run better on the Xbox 360.

If you don´t want to suffer, you better avoid comparissons between the X and Pro because it´s just the beginning of a long journey.

[Pancit_Canton]

No, It wasn't

It was a two completely different architecture with the Xbox 360 on the lead platform, porting inferior ports on the PS3. The developers were at fault, because they don't know how to program the PS3. The first party studio of Sony; showed the massive difference between the first party exclusive titles like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 and God of War 3. The $300 difference that your talking about came from the new blu-ray format that MS happily enjoy to this day, even though they don't have any involvement with the blu-ray development.

[Aenea]

Nah, two years is doable, at least not four long years like the Xbox fans had to endure!

Besides, base PS4 versions still run and look better than base Xbox One versions so in the end a heck of a lot more gamers have better versions than the base Xbox One owners since many won't be upgrading...

[hamburgerhill]

The developers were at fault? Gtfo....more like Sony was at fault just like now.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Aenea

"Nah, two years is doable, at least not four long years like the Xbox fans had to endure!"

Don't count on it. No if you think Sony will start a new generation and a clean break from the current gen. Two years from now and the PS5 will not be powerful enough to be called a "next generation" machine.

Besides, 2019 has at very least two high profile exclusives to be released. The Last of Us Part II and Ghost of Tsushima. So, if Sony release a new console in 2019, it ill be called PS4 Pro 2. Lol.

[Gazondaily]

LOL DF is going to be hated by Sony fans so much from now on.

"or The PS4 Pro can keep up with the XboneX even though it's a year old and $100 cheaper."

Very liberal definition of 'keeping up' imo

[Aenea]

DF are good at what they do, I don't hate them for it, it's funny tho to notice that they were called PlayStation biased all this time by Xbox fans and now it's the other way around. They just love tech and what they do......

[NoPeace_Walker]

Do you remember a time....hmmm, Nov 2013 to Nov 6th 2017, where every digital foundry page was full of happy PS4 fans...singing and holding hands together to celebrate graphics and resolution supremacy? Now, apparently DF hates them and always Pro Xbox. Go figure.

[Pancit_Canton]

@ Septic.
Meaning, there's hardly any difference between the two besides resolution. Performance wise, It's pretty much identical.

@ NoPeace_Walker
I wasn't a fan of DF before and to this day.

It was a fair comparison between PS4 and the Xbone. The consoles was released on the same year, but the price point on the Xbone is $100 more expensive than the PS4. The PS4 is technically superior on both hardware and software even though It's $100 cheaper than the Xbone.

[MagicBeanz]

You seem upset, I get it though you all thought bone x was going to be light years beyond Pro turns out that wasn't the case, you guys should be used to being wrong by now though.

[GNCFLYER]

You x guys are so toxic on this site. For the last few years you've all been crying about no difference. Shows your hipocracy. So you guys have been lying your asses off waiting for this moment. Now your colors are out.

Makes me regret all the times I agrees with you guys about seeing no difference in motion.

How long you think you will have this edge. You know a PS5 will come out and smoke this thing CPU and GPU sides. The fact that Xbox waited a year means they will have to release later now. That's what they want though. Let's get Sony specs so we can make sure we beat them. If they release same time it's gonna make x customers like wtf I can't keep up with these consoles.

You know why MS has bent over backward for BC. You guys think they're being good to you, not true, they just don't have many exclusives so they have to give you somwthing. Now all you guys are fired up to play 10 to 15 year old games while Sony keeps on releasing badass AAA new experiences.

Isn't that why we buy new consoles? New tech and games. Sony players do, x players buy for the i have more power title.

I was laughing at the DF BC video. Those old games are higher res but still look and play like their old selves. They aren't remakes/remastered. That's the only way to make an old game look new. All you guys, DF, and greenburger were bad enough last gen and here it comes again.

Enjoy your old shit and annual gears, Forza, and halo.

We got HZD, spider man, TLOU2, and new tech like VR to have fun with..

[Crazywhitie]

Man I was testing all the Games on my Xone X last night. This machine blows out the Pro... I was show my son this game on the 1 and pro. The difference is incredible.

[Cmv38]

So you bought the same game for both systems? Yeah okay.

[Crazywhitie]

I own games on Both Consoles cuz i switched to PS4 Pro when it came out.. plus my Kid was always on my Xbox... I have two Copies of Games cuz Kids wants to play with his Friends on Xbox so i was on PS4

[timotim]

Beast!

[drunkenspy007]

Oh look, xb1x can run a game that came out years ago available on all systems. Let me run right out to get this, those tiny little particles look soooo much better now.

[Zabatsu]

For third-party games X will always ne the better console, what'd you expect? One year newer hardware plus more expensive console. If you'd rather play thirdparty games on the X instead of on a PC, go right ahead. What makes me come back to the Playstation is the exclusives, simply because they can't be played anywhere else. Personally I just can't justify paying 640$ on ahow console for games I could play on my PC and I think many think like I do.

I hope MS would focus more on first-party games, pushing it hard exactly like Sony does. That way we'd see both companies work even harder and bring us even better products.

[MagicBeanz]

Only problem is there has been articles to the contrary its not always the better console and it only takes one game to make that a fact.

[Fishy Fingers]

It’s no surprise the better hardware yields the better results. But it certainly makes for some funny threads.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

superior hardware wins again. get used to this.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

"a great showcase of the leap in power that xbox one x has over the 4.2 tflops of sony's machine, translating purely as an image quality boost".

[Ju]

No, don't say. The more expensive faster console plays this with a higher res. Wo would have thought 😱

[Edito]

Was watching this video yesterday @4K with my wife and i asked her can you spot the difference? She looked at it and was like humm i can't maybe you guys that play a lot more can easily spot the difference and i said even i can't spot the real difference without the 300% zoom and that's the problem with the X for me.

[Mister_G]

Looks the same to me :)