Hand of Fate 2 Runs at 2160p on XB1X, 1620p on PS4 Pro; Dev Investigating Switch Port

Hand of Fate 2, sequel to the action RPG/roguelike/deck-building game, is finally about to be released. We managed to have a quick chat with Defiant Development’s Communications Manager Lee May to pinpoint the game’s technical specs ahead of the launch date, scheduled for PC (Windows/Mac OS/Linux), PlayStation 4 and Xbox One on November 7th. RelatedHand …

[Obscure_Observer]

Another game running a native 4K on Xbox One X and 1620p on the PS4 Pro, just like Shadow of War. :)

[XStation4pio_Pro]

The more I see the more I am glad I made the pre-order. :)

[Obscure_Observer]

@XStation4pio_Pro

Me too! Xbox One X is trully delivering and its not even out yet!

[81BX]

Both are excellent systems. The xb1x is just stronger

[Bahamut]

Shame you won't have any GOOD games to play though. Bummer.

[NoPeace_Walker]

Bahamut,

Bummer you don't have any new original thing to say about the Beast except the same old false narrative that were used by your classmates a million times already. If this was a college final, the whole class would be graded "F" for plagiarism. LOL

[TejasTV]

@NoPeace_Walker

He’s not wrong at all. He would probably pass and even get to leave early because he clearly doesn’t need the class. You might want to see a tutor though

[DARK_WOLF]

You children are lame.

Sony has some good games that warrant having a ps4 sure but i every other aspect its beaten by the xbox one x and then some.

Quit acting like the only good games in this world are the ones with sony written on the box.

[strifeblade]

@bahamut
its a shame that 90% of the ps library will look and play better on the x. Actually THATS GREAT.

[NoPeace_Walker]

Another native 4K game on the X. Sounds like a broken record. One week away for the awakening of the Beast!

[Elda]

LMAO!

[TejasTV]

Lol and 3 months from then GameStop will have too many used ones.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Yep! Can't wait for the X to drop since 95% of my library is X1 games, and after yesterday Im glad I bought a Pro back in Feb, only PS4 games I have is Horizon and BF1.

[CaptainObvious878]

Then maybe you should give your Pro to someone that, you know, actually appreciates good games.

[Lexreborn2]

Breaking News! Year later Consoles is stronger then Year old Console! Next up: Surprisingly obvious topic is surprisingly obvious.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Why so defensive?

[Lexreborn2]

How is the truth defensive? The fact people are trying to draw equal comparisons between 2 machines that are distinctly different is comedy to me. It's not even worth all the arguing and bitching people are going back and forth with. It's like people with a 1080ti arguing with people who have a 1050ti. It's a dumb argument to even try and create. So, why are people doing it?

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

I hope you say the same thing in a PS article when those fanboys start screaming about their exclusives...

[Lexreborn2]

@BLK What I should say "Sorry Sony fans! It's obvious you have exclusives!"? This argument being had is redundant. PS4 was 30-50% stronger then Xbox on release. PS4 Pro was 4-5 times stronger then Xbox and PS4. X will be 6 times stronger then the base models and 30-50% stronger then PS4 Pro.

Yet, the facts are undeniable PS4 Pro should've been stronger then the PS4 and Xone because it released 3 years after them. The X Should be stronger then all of them because it released 4 years after and a year after it's closest competition. What is the problem with these facts here?

[NoPeace_Walker]

"Breaking News! Year later Consoles is stronger then Year old Console!"

The Nintendo Switch apparently didn't get that memo. Also 90% of the same game ran better on the X360 compared to PS3 which was released a year later.

[TejasTV]

How is this defensive lol. That would be you mr booty pain

[Lexreborn2]

@No peace walker as a successor to the Wii U it is more powerful then it’s predessesor. As for it’s competit though it was expected for it to rival or surpass the base models of PS4 and Xbox one. But it’s in the middle of the two rivaling Xbone but portable which makes it a little weaker.

It’s an acceptable compromise.

[Forn]

Another third-party title that both PS4 and Xbox users will get to play ;-)

[Aceman18]

And yet somehow I'm not losing any sleep over this fact, just like i didn't lose sleep over the OG ps4 being stronger than OG xb1.

Don't care if it's native, upscale, or checkerboard. As long as game looks great and runs great who gives two sh*ts.

[CaptainObvious878]

This.

I have no issue a game running a higher resolution on more powered hardware. And I too won't be losing any sleep over this.

And this is actually good to see because when the PS5 hits, devs will take advantage of that as well.

[MoonConquistador]

You have to really question why having more pixels than someone else makes you happy. Seriously lol

[ossyc]

30fps lol - get a grip

[deividpaulo]

And???

[DrumBeat]

The mighty Xbox One X. Simply a better console.

[Ashlen]

I'd rather own the PS4 and Switch.

[cyber_daemonx]

The mighty PS4 pro. Simply a better library and support.

[xenz]

But we have games like Ghost and Last of Us Part II :) Can’t ser any XB1X games looking better. Resolution is already good on Pro :)

[DrumBeat]

I have all that too. And I'm going to have Xbox One X.

[Berenwulf]

I don't know why people are actually surprised about this. The X is the stronger console it's always gonna perform better than the rest. The problem isn't the power... The problem is that there are basically no exclusive games for the system.

[mark3214uk]

but the x1 is more powerfull,the fact that your shocked at at the results just shows how much Xbox has let you down over the last few years

[SirBradders]

So far the price of the X compared to the PRO is justified imo. Now all we need is Microsoft to make some 1st party exclusives to entice more people to buy. Hopefully in 2 - 3 years we may see that.

[ccgr]

Nice! I enjoyed the original one

[343_Guilty_Spark]

That’s nearly double the resolution

[kevnb]

40% faster console.

[Father__Merrin]

X1x is stronger but £100 more. The 1600p will still look and play excellent on a 4k tv you

[Aceman18]

Yep as long as it still looks great and runs great it doesn't matter what the resolution is imo. All I know is I've been playing great games on my OG ps4, and now my PS4Pro, and they still looked fricking beautiful Horizon is just one example.

[Razzer]

You will have to have a pretty damn big TV to see the difference,that is certain

[shuvam09]

Exactly my thoughts...
Around 1800p is what I expect from Pro if 4k is the target on X1X...
And if they get there, I am satisfied with the Pro...
Memory constraints will be a disadvantage for the Pro though...

[itsmebryan]

But, £100 is not a big deal. Plus you can trade in your X1 for at least$100 so it's a wash. Plus you don't have to buy new accessories or new games that will only play on the new system. That is a huge savings. I normally spend at least $1000 every console upgrade. This is a great bargain for X1 owners and still $100 cheaper than my $600 Fatboy PS3 10 years later.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Not with the low res textures

[Elda]

A game no one really cares about.

[ossyc]

It doesn't matter which way you slice it, the Crapbox One X is a 30fps turd.

Yeah, I'm a PC geezer; can play up to 240fps / 240hz GSYNC - and yeah I'm bragging.......what of it?

[ElementX]

It just shows you're a sucker for spending money on an ultra high refresh monitor.

[ossyc]

I got money boi, no need to get jelly, enjoy 30fps

[ElementX]

I have money also and don't call me boi, I'm a 37yo adult and I am aware of the limitations of the human eye. A small number of people like fighter pilots and stuff can see extremely fast images but the average person can't

[Weeblordbad]

To be fair, I have a 144hz monitor(no adaptive sync) and I can tell the difference between 60hz and 144hz. The game just looks that much smoother, 60hz looks stuttery in comparison when I flip between them.

It's not the most earth shattering difference but it's certainly there.

[ossyc]

@ElementX

You have no clue....
...........the visual difference and smoothness from 30>60>100>144+, especially with NVIDIA GSYNC, is clearly and hugely apparent at every step (not so much 200>244), but you wouldn't know that 'cos you play console, which I also play, I might add.

From your lame logic, that makes me an ace fighter pilot....

[itsmebryan]

Good for you.🤗

[2cents]

lol.

Who are you fighting with?

[Black0ut]

He just likes having arguments with himself lol. Wuts that boiii? lol

[Wotbot]

That’s some jump from the Pro, nice.

[cliveo32]

Anything with 1440 or above im happy with on my pro 1620p will do thats good enough not loseing much sleep over this
Im happy for the x owners after putting up with og xbox it is shit ..i own one i should no .

[timotim]

From a pure technical standpoint, that's a huge difference. The game looks pretty good too. I'll keep an eye on it.

[hiawa23]

Looks like the X1X is everything MS said it was going to be. Can't wait till the the 7th

[Hakoom]

1st party games get a ps4pro
3rd party get a high end pc

no need for an xbox to just play 2 halo and forza lol

[Weeblordbad]

A PC that does 4k30 is much more money than an Xbox. 1080's alone in Canada are $700-$800 and a ti pushes the 1k mark.

[bluefox755]

A PC that does 4k30 is not more money than an Xbox, in fact, a mere gtx 1060 will run many games at 4k30, and it costs a mere $200. Heck, even the 970 will do 4k30, and it came out 3 years ago. Go to youtube and search for "Digital Foundry 4k on a budget". In fact, I would wager to say that the number of games that X1X runs in actual native 4k is probably about the same as the number of games that a 970 can play in native 4k.

Need proof? https://pcpartpicker.com/li... (worth noting that this build has more memory than X1X as well).
Pop a 980 in there for about 10 dollars more and you're easily outperforming the X1X. Nevermind all of the money you'll save from free online and cheaper games.

[Weeblordbad]

Sigh...

I own a 1070 and a 4k TV, I can tell you from experience it's not running games at what I would call an acceptably smooth framerate or detail settings. That's also with an i7 7700k and 16gb of ram, which out performs the G4560 handily. You putting together a pc part picker list isn't proof of anything other than that you can find the cheapest parts and put them in a box and call that "proof" like a single 8gb stick so no Dual channel? A dated Dual core? No SSD? Your hard disk is even the WD Green not even a black, it's a 5400rpm drive for christs sake what kind of computer experience are you shooting for 2004?

Also a 6gb 1060 in CAD is about $330 to $360, that kinda starts to harm the value proposition no? But whatever man, I guess you're a console guy so the idea of having a game dip into the high teens is acceptable to you.

[Weeblordbad]

Oh and I switched the region from US to CAN and guess what.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com... the price jumps to $700 and that's not even including memory since the site couldn't find a match with Canadian sites. Granted the hard drive could be trimmed, since 104 for that garbage drive is highway robbery you're still looking at $100 CAD more than the One X (In CAD) for a computer I'd classify as garbage. Building computers like the one you listed is a fast way to waste a lot of money on a sub par experience.

Do you really think this thing is going to run something like Total War Warhammer 2 at 4k acceptably? No, not even close.

[Hakoom]

i rather spend that extra buck then...
i dont do half measures.. i go all the way

[bluefox755]

They may not have comparable games, they may not have an FPS advantage, but hey, at least they have a small resolution boost :)

[Weeblordbad]

Considering in 2013 people were shouting from the rooftops about 720p vs 900p or 900p vs 1080p, I wouldn't call this a small difference.

[strifeblade]

is 2013 people were going up and down about a mere resolution boost on the ps4. But now its not just a resolution boost, the 12 gb of ram on xbox allows 4k textures which ps4 has no chance to stream! Enjoy your resolution boost of low quality textures on the pro, and you will quickly see why the pro was underwhelming as a mid gen upgrade

[Harmy666]

This game looks interesting!

[DJStotty]

Im ready!!! Received my despatch message today saying the pre-order is on its way and will be delivered on launch day.

Its going to allow my 1080p tv to deliver its full potential (rather than 720/900p) on all games and then will invest in a 4K tv next year when the prices come down a bit more (one i have my eyeball on is currently £1299)

[thisismyaccount]

We have yet to see or read an article, where the developer in question ain´t a nobody ... seriously. All these "pro XBX" coming from unknown devs making shitty games, talking about the pros and cons of each console. Hand of Fate 2? Never heard of it, til today ... these are all on the same level as Piranha Bytes (Gothic), they are terrible at coding ... difference is PB makes good (buggy) games. What´s next?

Alexey Pajitnov stating that the XBX can run Tetris at 8K at 60fps ... just for a brief moment though? Microsoft best console yet and no one seems to give a wet banana .. which is sad. Sony beat them on software and hardware level + price, this time MS beat Sony in terms of what type of hardware can fit in such a small space, quite an achievement.

Just 1 year too late and again $100 more expensive with zero games and most or many of them running below native 4K. They should have stopped the PlayAnywhere program, its killing MS Xbox division (-50% less units sold this year) ... no need to get one if you can play xboxgames on a toaster pc.

[DJStotty]

You should try hand of fate, its a good little game, kind of a mix between card strategy and 3rd person combat

[Edito]

Write my words, PS4 exclusives will have better visuals than any 4K multiplatform game released on Xbox One X, and the problem resides there for me...

[dreue]

ok this is the thing i dont get it,xbox fans all happy with the xbox X and i understand that,it is a nice console,but then again bashing on the pro? because? we dont have native 4k? guys this is still one generation with mid gen upgrade,and i for one like to play good and unique games,and xbox does not give me that,im amazed that you guys are ok with scalebound being cancel one game that could make me get an xbox,but are also happy with this shit? like no games but better resolution on multi-plat? come on guys what is the problem where? it is like you guys are saying fuck games,bring me resolution.... Like is this where we at in 2017? almost 2018? thank good we have Sony and Nintendo that focus on games....also you guys so happy with the"Beast" it will one be the beast for like 2 years max....untill then we play a lot o fnew games and you guys will only play multi ones that are a little better than the pro....so im just saying it is sad that we are not together for the games that is all

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