Naughty Dog has released a video detailing its ideology towards making multiplayer modes in its various titles such as Uncharted and The Last of Us.
The best multiplayer they ever did was Uncharted 2...and it's never been topped Instead they went from this amazing, simple, skill based online game which played almost exactly like the single player to over the top, crazy, gimmick like multiplayer generic modes which you can find in every other multiplayer game out there where it becomes what you've unlocked rather then skill. I mean take the Last of Us, why on earth would you include an in game store menu which let you buy armor and other things when the single player is set in a world where resources and supplies are low? With Uncharted 2 it was just like the single player except you had two small boosters which make useless later on when you had gotten used to the game and leveled up...living up to their name "boosters". Then they decided to add an in game store menu to Uncharted 4 with awful NPCs to help you, loadouts, weapon mods, paid boosters. Classic Mode was added too late and isn't perfect but it's better then they main stuff they wasted time on during development. I mean if they had a rough spot during Uncharted 4s development with Hennig leaving and the like why didn't they just do something like Uncharted 2 which would have required less time to balance with how simple and straight forward it was and work on the single player more so it wouldn't have been as stressful with the reshuffling. Just my take on it. Uncharted 2 showed us and multiplayer games that less is more
I too dislike Uncharted 4 mp. I personally think shooters with long kill times shouldn’t have loadouts, boosters, and LMAO...side-kicks. Uncharted 2 mp was much better than 4s imo.
Yeah it was about skill. You didn't have gimmicks to rely on and if you were pinned down you couldn't go "Oh I'll spawn a sidekick", "oh I'll spawn a mystical" or even "meh, even though we are using the same weapons he's a lower level, my Assault rifle with 2 weapon mods will manage to outgun him before he kills me first". It was basically skill vs skill and if you died you had no one to blame but yourself, not what better things they had unlocked over you.
Uncharted 2 was good until they started doing this, https://i.ytimg.com/vi/icN3...
There's a classic mode.
Well there’s a classic mode with weapon pick ups, no bosters, no sidekicks, and no nothing. And it is great
I did say that...like it's right there, I even elaborated on it. "Classic Mode was added too late and isn't perfect but it's better then they main stuff they wasted time on during development" Classic Mode was alright, but it's not as great as U2...it's making the best out of a bad situation. They knew people hated the changes in Uncharted 3 so you'd think they would think either go 1) "Well they didn't like the new stuff we added in Uncharted 3, they wanted it like Uncharted 2 so we had to turn Hardcore Mode into a Classic Mode a year or so after launch, that wasted a lot of time...I KNOW lets just make Uncharted 4s multiplayer like Uncharted 2s" or 2) "We've done things differently again for Uncharted 4 and like Uncharted 3 it's going to disappoint people...I KNOW lets add a Classic mode like Uncharted 2 right now so it can be ready for launch OR will be ready a few months after as one of our big updates" You know what I mean...it's like they were too stubborn or they didn't give a shit. They literally thought everyone was going to love it despite not learning from their arrogant attitude from Uncharted 3s multiplayer...like I said they had to change/rename an entire mode. Hardcore to Classic. Classic Mode in Uncharted 4 didn't even have weapons laying around on the map, we were just expected to pick up peoples guns. Not to mention the grenade recharge was still there...
The classic mode in UC 4 isn't classic at all. There are barely any weapons on map, grenades recharge, and people can spawn in with much stronger guns than their opponents.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK. Although I personally loved TLOU MP I think uncharted 2 is the best for the simple matter of skill over substance. You needed to know the maps, verticality, weapon drops, game mode, etc. You couldn’t rely on dumb boosters or in store credit to save you.
Only thing they really had to change was some boosters like Situational Awareness...they didn't, they decided to split it up into three things for Uncharted 3 and still have something like it in Uncharted 4 Another thing which would have made the multiplayer even better was if they randomized the heavy weapons. How many times did we all start a match only for everyone to rush towards the grenade launcher, rocket launcher or desert eagle. If they randomized the locations at the start of each match and continued to do this every time they spawned to a variety of locations then it would split people up more.
Naughty Dog should change their name to Miramax and put Harvey Weinstein as their president.
@G20WLY @bluefox755 Try to connect the dots. Harvey Weinstein sexual allegations... Naughty Dog sexual allegations... Don't tell me you haven't heard of them?
Move along troll Harvey Weinstein has been proven to be guilty with cold hard evidence and so ND hasn't been proven guilty if anything after kotakus articles it seems more likely they are innocent and the dude who had a mental breakdown is just I don't know
No, Weinstein has recorded proof of sexual harassment. ND has an allegation from one person with zero evidence to substantiate it. That doesn't mean they didn't do it, but it's irresponsible to smear someone without some actual proof.
The Last of Us MP is awesome. The in game menu didn't bother me at all. Usually I just bought a weapon upgrade or armor while waiting to respawn. Uncharted 4 was a different story. There was just too much stuff shoehorned in to it, that I only played it for a couple of hours and left it at that.
I actually thought the last of us multiplayer was better
As someone who has put months into the mp of uc2 you are VERY CORRECT. SPOT ON. Not to mention their newer games feature some of the worst microtransactions. Naughty dog are no mp experts
Personally, I found UC4’s and TLoU’s multiplayer to be spectactular.
Naughty dog multiplayer 🤢
TLoU MP is pretty amazing. Uncharted has been a hit and a miss. I think U4 MP is just alright
Tlou started good but naughty dog messed it up with all the updates.
I know i have the platinum on all naughty dog games on PS4 except The Last Of Us, as it was too much online for me. Maybe play one round or two yeah, but full grind with each faction online hell no. So ill never platinum The Last Of Us now. Shame
It doesn’t take that long. It’s 84 matches as each faction, for a total 168 for platinum. That number is so much lower than it sounds if you’re talking about a game that has great multiplayer.
Might not take long but FFFFF that. I bought an amazing game for the amazing story and that is all. If you F'cks want a online proper game then buy a Fing proper online dick fest.
In all its peer 2 peer glory.
What so i could do it all with just my nephew or cousin ? instead of playing rounds after round and losing ? Also look i dont think it is a bad thing at all, its just i just cant be chewed to prestige levels and shit at my age when i have other stuff.
This video is a good reminder of how awesome it is to work on games. Seeing the collective effort of hundreds of people build towards something that is fun to play is pretty good reason to go into work every day ready to get shit done.
Best multiplayer shooter was Socom 2. I'd pay a ridiculous price to be able to play that again (without cheaters)
Not made by Naughty Dog
My point exactly. 😁
I was waiting for UnKarted, but Uncharted 4 will do Naughty Dog can still redeem themselves by making the fourth The Last of Us a kart racing game set in the apocalypse 😅
TLoU Multiplayer is the best online multiplayer of last gen and this gen imo. Uncharted tried way to hard with 4. I havent been so addicted since Halo 3. CS still my go too but thats PC and thats a different race.
Not sure I can comprehend what Naughty Dog has to say about multiplayer design. The Last of Us and Uncharted 2 are good. And yea.
The last of us has my favorite multiplayer of all time .I still play it
LOL. That's like receiving alcoholic treatment advice from a drunkard.
I really liked Red Dead Redemption's mp. Wildlands also had good mp. I haven't played a lot of online multiplayer games, because the community is generally cancer. From what I've played.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS... is pay to win a good game design?
Uncharted 2 before the sniper patches was good. And then...
As much as I've enjoyed some Naughty Dog multiplayer games they always get a little bit of a pass compared to other companies. The Last of Us multiplayer I enjoyed extensively, but they put perks and weapons behind a pay wall. Some of them are very good and potentially give people who have them an advantage in some scenarios. Look at EA and Battlefront 2, the flack from the loot crates. Saying it's pay to win because people can advance potentially way quicker by buying them. You flat out have to buy perks and weapons in TLoU, no chance to even earn them. As time went on they added even more weapons / perks behind a purchase. It's greedy as hell and absolutely ridiculous.
last of us had the best multiplayer. Uncharted 2 was horrible, had the worse perks ever.
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