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Middle-Earth Shadow of War: PC vs PS4 Pro vs PS4 vs Xbox One Graphics Comparison In 4K

To begin with Shadow of War, just like Shadow of Mordor provides two graphical settings for PS4 Pro owners. One that favors resolution and the other one is the quality mode. In resolution mode, we see the game employing a dynamic resolution with pixel counts ranging from 1300p odd to a full 1440p resolution (although there may be instances where the game renders in higher resolution).

On the base PS4 and Xbox One front, we have the usual gap between the two. The PS4 runs at a native 1080p resolution and the Xbox One runs at what looks like dynamic resolution (but we mostly found it to run at around 900p).

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DeadSilence2797d ago

Digital foundry said 1520p to 1830p so stop lying GamingBolt and get put of here.

Picture_Dancer2797d ago

Heh, that's the life of xbox fan, waiting...

You are waiting for x1x, while milions of Ps4 pro users play 4k games with hdr for more than a year.

What is more many people will have to wait another year for a price drop od x1x to the acceptable point (e. g. price of Ps4pro).

Yeah, so keep waiting for slightly better experiance.

Pantz2797d ago

I have a PS4 Pro. (it's on right now).

$400 is a fine price point for a console without a UHD Blu-Ray player.

Thanks, I will indeed keep waiting 23 more days.

boing12797d ago (Edited 2797d ago )

@Pantz

Are you honestly still buying physical copies of movies? Games I would understand but movies?

freshslicepizza2796d ago

@Picture_Dancer
"Heh, that's the life of xbox fan, waiting... "

This isn't a E3 conference where Sony shows games multiple years in advance, this is about when they do another comparison next month.

"You are waiting for x1x, while milions of Ps4 pro users play 4k games with hdr for more than a year. "

While still waiting for even some 1st party titles to get Pro support like supersampling. The XB1X has features built into the hardware that will improve all existing and future titles.

Zeref2796d ago (Edited 2796d ago )

That 1 year wait got us the most powerful console by 2tflops. PS4 Pro seems half-assed by comparison. Especially when a lot of games you can't even see the difference from Base because there's no 4k textures. Only resolution bumps. It makes the console pretty much useless. While Xbox One X will get 4K textures thanks to bigger and faster RAM. and better graphical effects overall. Xbox One X will get most assets from PC's ultra settings. Like in Gears of War 4, Tomb Raider, Forza 7, AC: Origins and Shadow of War for example.

Xbox One X Tomb Raider comparison made the PS4 Pro version look like a last gen game. It Even beat the PC version in graphics in this case.

https://imgur.com/a/TicZZ

Bruh2796d ago

Loll

Its not a slightly better experience, the PS4 Pro never touched native 4K on this game, sits usually around like 1620p . There's only a 2 million pixel difference between that resolution and a native 4K image....so no not slightly keep crying

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Pantz2796d ago

@boing1 UHD movies are special and worth the effort if you have a nice tv. I have Netflix (disc and streaming) but they don't have any on discs and their streaming selection is limited. I don't have good internet speed here so yeah buying UHD movies is a good option for me and the way I do it is cheaper than buying them digitally. I'll buy the one I want to see on ebay if I can and then resell it on ebay when im done with it like a rental. In some cases you can even end up making a small profit.

timotim2796d ago

PS4 Pro's lack of 4k asset texture in games is probably one of its biggest omissions. That's huge for these mid gens...on both 4k and 1080p TVs.

Razzer2796d ago

Not in the case of SoW. The texture pack is a waste of space. Hard to tell the difference at all.

Bruh2796d ago (Edited 2796d ago )

This game's a good example of the big differences between the One X and Pro

This game on Pro never even touches native 4K, usually sits around like 1620p, while the One X does native 4K...thats over a 2 million pixel difference and on larger 4K panels it'll be very noticeable...hell Shadow of Mordor which runs at native 4K on the Pro looks WAY sharper than its successor

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Middle-Earth's Nemesis System Was Created Because Gamers Kept Reselling Batman Arkham Asylum CDs

Ex-Warner Bros. executive reveals that the Nemesis system was designed to create a compelling game that would stick with gamers.

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mkis00779d ago

Harry potter could be a great game to use it. The students and the enemies could each have their own seperate tree.

Michiel198978d ago

then kill em and they come back? seems fitting for the universe

mkis00778d ago

I mean you didn't actually kill the orcs that came back in shadow...orcs don't have that power in the LOTR universe. Meanwhile you do kill enemies (human and beast) in hogwarts legacy.

No, you would defeat them and they would come back.

jznrpg78d ago

It was a good idea but with of without it you need to make a good game first

RaidenBlack78d ago

Yep,
Instead of WW, WB could've assigned Monolith for a current gen FEAR game that could've used the Nemesis system as its base. But alas. The WB IP is what supposedly killed them.
Hope Rocksteady gets to use Nemesis in their next Batman 1P game.

Angyobangyo78d ago

Warner bros is so full of it. Usually corporations cry about piracy but this was simply due to the second hand market and they don’t t like that.

Chocoburger78d ago

It was a neat idea, but the game is packed with a lot of repetitive filler grindy stuff, clearly designed to make the game last longer. The sequel went overboard, with the filler as well, in order to nudge players towards micro-trash-actions, which were eventually dropped.

NoDamage78d ago

Thats why I couldn't get into the sequel even though I really liked the first one and so wanted to like the 2nd. Unfortunately twas not meant to be.

joab77778d ago

Need a podcast with nothing but stories like this

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Stop Forcing Multiplayer Into Single Player Games

TIM WHITE WRITES: "Multiplayer or single player? Developers, you can do both, just not willy-nilly."

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Flawlessmic796d ago

I am in absolute agreement with the OP 👌

shinoff2183795d ago

I hate when I see single player games and see people begging for multi-player. Jeez guys it don't need to be on every game. Latest one I seen was atomic heart.

-Foxtrot795d ago

Multiplayer or even co-op

If it was always a single player game then that's how it is

Inverno795d ago

It's a trend that never really went away. For me multiplayer in a primarily SP focused game was an excuse for DLC. Then there's the mentality gamers had that adding multiplayer makes a game worth the price, otherwise it should be half price for half a game. A way of thinking devs reassured when they started adding multiplayer to their sequels. We see the same with multiplayer focused games getting SP in their sequels.

Flawlessmic795d ago

Tbh multilayer now is a way to add live service and mtx elements, very rarely does it come of well.

What single players game used to be in a lot of cases now require 3 other people for keeping to really enjoy it and I hate having to rely on others to get the maximum from a game.

Sp should be sp, if devs want to add a separate multi mode then that's fine with me, the legends addition to ghost of tshushima was fricking sick but totally separate to the main game. Sick of co op too.

Hofstaderman795d ago

I remember when certain single player games had them as included optional modes that was played on the couch. Had brilliant times with Syphon Filter and Golden Eye. Me and my bro used to used to fight over who would play as Gabe even though it was technically just a skin. Good times.

Dagexon794d ago

I didn't notice your comment before I added mine.
But good times indeed

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Nacho_Z998d ago

What would you say they're missing in particular? I'd say all the ingredients are there, NPCs, sidequests, consequences of actions, level grinding. Fully customisable gear with a lot of depth.

LordoftheCritics998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

Quite a lot is missing. What you listed could be mistaken for an action adventure or any game with few rpg elements.

There's so many aspects, from non combat solutions to conflicts, fully fleshed out character, world role playing rules and elements(justice/crime/law systems etc), companions, story arcs (more than 1), illusion of a liveable/traceable world which means factions, capital, outcomes from choices (diplomacy, or other) etc etc

The story and world is fleshed out and not left to the imagination too much. Of course we still imagine certain things but they are well established and take full part in the story arcs. Which means not just world setting with bosses and lore through tidbits.

There's so so much more to it. I'm just being super brief.
Not many actual RPG's lately.

Dragon Age, Witcher etc are proper rpg games and many many older title.

That does not mean Soul's games are not rpg like, but they are closer to RPG Lite.

MadLad998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

RPGs without player agency, outside of just character build and combat, don't really feel like RPGs for me.
They're just action games.

It's why I don't consider most JRPGs actual RPGs.
I'm just building a character and throwing it into your linear world.

I'm not discounting those games for what they are. I just don't feel they actually fit being called RPGs when player agency over the world is at a minimum.

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Nacho_Z998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

I'm not sure how much of that is important to a game being a true RPG and how much is just what you personally like, I still think From games very much qualify even if they don't deal in certain clichés.

"Lore through tidbits" is technically accurate but it does the games a disservice. Yes it's delivered uniquely but the lore in their games goes deeper than anything else and shouldn't be underestimated.

LordoftheCritics998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

''Lore through tidbits'' cannot guide you through an orchestrated range of emotions.

RPG will get close to role playing that fictional reality and drop into the world's story and you are usually emotionally affected at every turn, choice, outcome. Your connection with the story, its characters and your mentally constructed version of that reality is a lot deeper and stronger as well due to the depth and breadth of the rpg creations.

Not just fear and awe.

Also its not just what I personally like, I like all kinds of games.
It's the heritage of RPG games and all the foundations of rules and systems whose goal is to create an invisible veil between reality and illusion and allow you to partake in all of that illusions systems.
The thinner the veil, the easier to role play.

CaptainHenry916998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

It's my type of RPG and fun as well. Some RPGs takes the fun factor out of it but I won't name those game's because a lot of fans will think I'm trolling. Witcher 3, Souls games, Final Fantasy, Knights of The old Republic, Mass Effect, Horizon Forbidden West, Persona 5, Tales games, and Oblivion (the best Bethesda game) is my favorite RPG games. I prefer third person RPG games though

MadLad998d ago

I love all of those listed, honestly. But I still think Bethesda peaked with Morrowind and Fallout 3.

I'm hoping Starfield really delivers for me.

CaptainHenry916998d ago

I'm hoping the new Mass Effect delivers and brings back the magic

Nacho_Z998d ago

''Lore through tidbits'' cannot guide you through an orchestrated range of emotions.'

An orchestrated range of emotions sounds like something like Uncharted, which is definitely not an RPG.

The point I'm making is that there is a series of core technical things which makes a game an RPG on a basic level and From games meet all of them. Anything else that people feel is missing is a matter of taste and personal experience.

There's no right answer to what is an RPG. A game can be a legit RPG and have a very different focus to another game in the same genre.

LordoftheCritics998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

''An orchestrated range of emotions sounds like something like Uncharted, which is definitely not an RPG.''

Its not exclusive. Might want to read the rest.
It is not about taste and personal pref,experience etc. The rpg term being coined and used for a long time has a basis. Learn it. Many can fit the rpg spectrum, but there is a spectrum and souls is on the lighter side.

Souls is an rpg but rpg lite, coors light lite.

Nacho_Z998d ago

Here's a definition of an RPG I found which seems fair enough.

"Defining RPGs is very challenging due to the range of hybrid genres that have RPG elements.

Traditional role-playing video games shared five basic elements:

The ability to improve your character over the course of the game by increasing his statistics or levels.

A menu-based combat system with several choices of skills, spells, and active powers as well as an active inventory system with wearable equipment such as armors and weapons.

A central quest that runs throughout the game as a storyline and additional (and usually optional) side quests.

The ability to interact with elements of the environment or storyline through additional abilities (e.g. lockpicking, disarming traps, communication skills, etc.)

The existence of certain character classes that define the characteristics, skills, abilities, and spells of a character (e.g. wizard, thief, warrior, etc.)"

That's a From game whether you like it or not. Not so much the ability to interact with the environment but the depth of lore and world building more than makes up for that.

I think you've got a rigid image of what an RPG is in your head and you can't see past it.

LordoftheCritics998d ago

Yup Soul's games are Coors ultra lite in those asepcts.

While the RPG RPG games are heavily fleshed out on most aspects and beyond on some.

Nacho_Z998d ago

Double RPG hey, you're inventing a new genre. There's nothing light about From's games in fact the opposite is true they're thematically rich and dark and dripping in more interesting lore than any series of games I've played.

If you think From games only touch lightly on the five classic RPG features that I posted then you don't know what you're talking about. There's nothing light and fluffy about their upgrade systems or their storytelling.

Maybe they're not to your taste because you prefer things to be spelled out but their subtlety doesn't make them any less of an RPG.

LordoftheCritics998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

Yup that's what Soul's games are.

RPG Subtle. New genre.

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Nacho_Z998d ago

@LordoftheCritics

Grow up, nobody destroyed anybody and if they did it certainly wasn't you. No, I don't have an alt account never have for any forum I've been in. Thanks for the discussion.

Class_Viceroy997d ago

Funny thing is, I actually don’t enjoy Souls combat at all. The world and exploration is all I really like. It’s not even that it’s too hard, I don’t mind grinding and learning, just like I would do for a JRPG or many other games. Just don’t feel like it’s that fun after 5-10 hours of fighting.

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MadLad998d ago

The lack of Kingdom Come Deliverance is upsetting.

Class_Viceroy997d ago

This is a good choice, although I would argue playing this game on a console or controller completely eliminates it from the discussion.

MadLad997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

Eh.

I have it on both the PC and Xbox. It's better on keyboard/mouse, but I don't think it's bad on a controller.

DVAcme998d ago

Not a bad list at all. The only one I haven't played there is Mortal Shell, but all the other games are great choices, with Shadow Of War and MOTHERFUCKING KING SHIT SUPREME DRAGON'S DOGMA as my personal favorites there.

Ninver998d ago

Off topic: I'm thinking of getting the witcher 3. Do I need to play 1 & 2?

MadLad998d ago

No. They're good at letting you in on the story. If you have it on GoG/Steam some minor stuff carries over, but you don't really need to play the older games to fully enjoy the third.

I do recommend playing the second game in general though. It's really good. I love the original, but it's really antiquated by today's standards. I think you could only fully enjoy it if you played it back when it released. Also has some pacing issues.

Ninver997d ago

Unfortunately I've only got a ps4 and I dont recall TW2 being available on the platform. I guess I could watch story recaps of both 1 & 2 on youtube or entire walkthrough if need be. Thanks for clarifying. You're alright 😁

MadLad997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

I would love to see exactly why I'm getting the downvotes.

I don't actually care about them, I just think it's obnoxious being I didn't say anything I don't find true.

That's why the voting system shouldn't even be. You get a lot more information from actually verbally stating your point, thus actually adding to the conversation, than just hitting a nothing button.

Class_Viceroy997d ago

At this point, don’t bother. Watch a couple YouTube videos to get caught up.

Ninver997d ago

I will do that, thanks

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