DLC Orcs Rumored To Be Single-Use Only in Middle-earth: Shadow of War

Following a Q&A after a recent live stream, it appears that DLC orcs in Middle-earth:Shadow of War may be single-use only.

[jznrpg]

Screw this game

[-Foxtrot]

Yeah it seems WB don't get it

They had a great game with Shadow of Mordor and for the sequel they add all these awful things. When a company adds online features FOR this kind of shit and Microtransactions then you know it's been done the wrong way. Online should be done if it feels right and fits in...not for money purposes so if it doesn't fit the game, which it bloody well doesn't then don't do it.

Shadow of War could be a good game if you get past all this crap but it could have been better if resources went into it as a single player only game.

I hate to say it but they need to be taught a lesson...I hope this game does shit in sales but since the reviews will completely ignore any of this and will most likely be "bought" into WB little scams, scared to p*** them off it'll probably help the game do really well. If people can be suckered into Destiny 1.5 then anything is possible.

[Krysis]

You know you're toxic right.. If people spend their money on a game like Destiny 2 and enjoy it then how are they being suckered I see your opinions on here day in and day out and if a game does not fall within your line of thinking then it's just trash. I bought Destiny 2 and I'm having a lot of fun as are about 15 different people on my friends list with that being said if that makes me a sucker than whatever but it's better than being an insolent child.

[fiveby9]

Have to disagree with you on Destiny. D2 is a good game. Better than D1 so far.If D2 is for suckers then just about every sequel game you must feel the same way. Gears, Forza, EA Sports games, etc. They are all iterative games. Now maybe you didn't like D1 and that's fine, but I am doubtful you have even played D2 let alone it's end game content.

However, I do partially agree with you on Shadow of War. The MT strategy is clearly tainting the game. What was once a highly anticipated game is now not even on my radar screen. Maybe I'll wait and see what word on the street is long after it is released. Day 1 though? Not at this point if ever.

[The 10th Rider]

Well, I remember there was a lot of hype for the game when it was first announced, but now every time there's an article for it somewhere it seems to be met with a "meh" feeling.

On top of all the microtransactions and BS that's ticking off gamers, they've got way outside of Tolkien lore and most people that are fans of Tolkien's work outside of the movies are pretty ticked off at that too. Overall it looks like they've managed to kill a lot of the hype for the game, which is crazy considering how successful they were with the first game.

[Goldby]

@fiveby9

You r right. Diablo 2 is a great game.
On another note. D2 will always be diablo 2 and never destiny 2

[antz1104]

Here we go with the Destiny hate. Lol once again you completely sound like you have no idea what you're talking about.

[thekhurg]

You still don't understand destiny. It's so funny.

[FITSniper]

Destiny 2 is quite fun. Yes you can rush through everything and be done in a few days. Same goes for tons of games that many think are good. But D2 has more to do than D1 and D1 was still fun to play regardless. And not all of us can play 12 hours a day. I haven't even done all the Strikes yet, haven't attempted the Nightfall, haven't done anywhere near all the Adventures and Lost Sectors, the other missions, etc. Still need to gear up too.

[FITgamer]

Yep. Like I said before I'll wait until the complete edition goes on sale. Not like there is going to be shortage of great games any time soon.

[morganfell]

Remember how everyone blew up about microstransactions in the game only to realize they were wrong? You would think people would wait before they start throwing themselves off a cliff. I have the Mithril Edition Preordered and am glad I do. A lot of this BS sounds more like something from competing game *cough* Assassins Creed

https://www.windowscentral....

"Thankfully, everything can still be earned in-game without dropping a dime on a micropayment"

"Do you have to buy Gold?"

"No. Gold is awarded in small amounts at specific milestones and for participating in community challenges. It can also be purchased through the PlayStation Store, Xbox Store and by adding funds to your Steam Wallet using real money. Everything a player can buy with Gold can also be earned in the game over time for free, but Gold gives players the option to acquire these items faster. No Gold purchases are necessary to enjoy the complete game experience."

"Gold does not give you any advantage over other players. A player who invests enough time can progress the same amount and have access to the same content as a player who purchases Gold. Gold is not required to progress or advance in the game at all."

"And finally, will loot chests contain special items that you can only acquire by purchasing Gold? "

"No, all of the aforementioned items can be earned playing through the game. Gold merely allows you to get your hands on them immediately."

[toddybad]

Its BS.

[morganfell]

Its people crying because someone against whom they cannot play, is in their Single Player game half way around the world and those far away people decide to take a paid shortcut rather than grinding and these people are losing their minds. Ridiculous and utterly childlike.

[The 10th Rider]

@morganfell,

People are upset because that type of thing can effect the entire design of the game. Even in games with online microtransactions you can typically earn things by playing the game. Does that mean it's an effective way of doing things? No, it doesn't. Oftentimes the amount of grinding you have to do to earn the stuff is ridiculous. The publisher is going to push the developers to make the rewards difficult to earn so that people are more likely to spend money to get the things they want.

[No Way]

I don't believe for a second that the two players will progress at the same speed. Why need gold then? Gold will help to move faster. Obviously you will advance much faster, if you pay for it. A given, I guess. But, I highly doubt that they didn't slow the progression for the "over time for free" player, to incentivize them in buying gold.. let's be real, morganfell.

[showtimefolks]

Morgan

One thing you fail to understand is the grind of the game will be that much more because they much rather people say screw this it's taking too long and simply spend money

When gamers defend MT in games with a leveling system that requires grinding they totally forgot the fact developers can make the game in sense where something which use to take 30 minutes to achieve most may take 45 to 50 and over the long haul in a lengthy game that extra grind time adds up

[Dark_Overlord]

The reason I'm against it is due to people randomly being able to attack your army (I hope this can be switched off), and you lose the units (from what I can gather), what's to stop one of these 'whales' non stop buying gold for high level units then essentially ruining everyone else's SP experience due to them invading and destroying their armies? That's my huge issue with this crap. :)

[morganfell]

"That's my huge issue with this crap"

Are you are saying you have a huge issue with an issue you do not even know is an issue?

To everyone already caterwauling, you had better hope the game is as bad as you say. I won't forget this post. Personally I do not think Warner Bros are going to shoot themselves in the franchise foot and wreck a game that is just getting its first big expectation legs - it was an under dog first go round - for the sake of some DLC money. When the game turns out to be great, lets see how many people can ignore it, how many saying they bought it, and how many picked it up and refused to tell anyone - really love those types.

And as I said, history. History shows people criticizing this game having to continually back peddle every time the truth comes out. First it was pay to win, then it was the marketplace, now people are supposing their army will get attacked, orcs are single use, and the devs will make you grind when grinding - that's why they call it grinding - in order to earn things. Better get a chalkboard, what's next?

[Dark_Overlord]

@Morganfell

"Are you are saying you have a huge issue with an issue you do not even know is an issue?"

erm.... they CONFIRMED that you will be able to attack each others armies, so yes my issue will be if it affects my SP game for no reason other than trying to get people to buy MT's. That is why I said I hope that I can turn it off, if not then yes it is a huge issue and WB can go F themselves.

If I can turn it off, then good :) The problem is they have not stated if we can, so until that point then I will assume it is forced.

[morganfell]

So you think the devs haven't stated that you can or cannot be attacked - despite every major game allowing it to be turned off. So people are choosing "can't disable the feature" and are talking about the sky falling? It would be one thing if people presented both sides but they are not doing that when they get upset. I love the capital letters for confirmed. It's misleading in light of what we do and do not know.

And it has been CONFIRMED that you can turn it off. Forts cannot be attacked if you do not share them online.

From the community manager:

"There does seem to be a lot of confusion with the social conquests but the most important thing is no one can invade your game and wreck it, that's not what it is about at all. You have to make the choice to A) share the fort and B) attack other peoples uploaded forts by yourself it's not something that will just happen, if you do not wish to do either it is not mandatory.

All you are doing is sharing the state of your fort so that other players can then attack it online and no cost to yourself as a challenge to see who can do it the fastest or best and gain some rewards, doing this doesn't mean your fort becomes open to attack in your single player game.

The only way you can loose orcs is if you attack one of these social forts in ranked mode, there is even a friendly mode option so you can take the challenge and risk nothing."

Remember the articles that said the game was always online? How did that turn out. That was the first controversy. Then the DLC issue. Really shot down. Now this.

[Relientk77]

The more I hear about this game the less I want it

[TheSaint]

Yep, I was really interested in this the first time I heard about it, I might pick it up for cheap from a bargain bin in a couple of years.

[UCForce]

OK WHAT !? 😡 Look, I want to keep mine what I paid for. But this new is so goddamn frustrating. Microtransaction and this ? "Sigh"

[morganfell]

https://www.windowscentral....

"Thankfully, everything can still be earned in-game without dropping a dime on a micropayment"

[Moe-Gunz]

I'm sure they'll hinder the progression to make it so grindy that it's almost forcing you to pay for those microtransations.

[notachance]

you're an idiot if you think they won't skew the drop rate from normal progression to madly grind the same shit over and over.

[ninsigma]

Being able to earn through gameplay everything you can buy is not the point. The point is they've likely increased grind time to incentivise using real cash.

[morganfell]

"I'm sure they'll hinder the progression"

Would you mind listing next week's lotto numbers as well? And I'll see you after you buy the game when everything you claim turns out to not be true. One bad rumor after another about this game has been crushed. Yet people persist in swimming upstream.

[Liqu1d]

What a shame.

[DigitalRaptor]

Ughhh, this game. Not only does it looks like a mess visually, but then the game has all these horrible microtransactions and now this. I also have trouble trying to fathom how they've created and tried to defend their "Sexy Shelob" character. Not supporting WB on this.

Assassin's Creed: Origins is a game that deserves and will get my money, thanks Ubisoft.

[fiveby9]

Little early to say on the next AC game for me. But surely compared to Shadow of War, it does look at least better in comparison.

[skinox1]

The game visually looks good.

[Blastoise]

So few games I like to actually support these days, feels like I'm boycotting every other AAA game because of some greedy nonsense.

[-Foxtrot]

Annnnd people wonder I come off negative and become skeptical of so many things

This is one of the reasons. Shadow of Mordor was great...I was perfectly happy, let myself get hyped for a sequel, put trust in the developer to do us all right and this happens.

Trust is hard to come by in the industry and I don't see why people don't learn from their mistakes. Hopefully people will watch it when the third game is released and the devs are spewing their PR nonsense.

[Imalwaysright]

This is not the developer, this is all WB. I have a hard time believing that Monolith would say "you don't need to play our game..." after all the work they put into it.

[Scar-]

Games in general are going in a really bad direction because of the spend practices of most modern gamers. Look at Tekken 7 and SF5 Their BARE BONES titles these dev's see everyone else profiting and they all want a piece eventually. I honestly find myself gaming less and less because I've beaten the crap out of my favorites early in this gen, while most the new games are UNFINSHED/bargain bin titles that are insanely skip. Seriously how hyped can you get to be a full price beta tester.

[EddieT]

Just when I thought this game couldn't be any more dead to me.

[Nodoze]

HAHAHA. WOW way to F the game up guys.
It will now sit on store shelves and won't even be considered. At least until it hits the $5.00 on the target end cap. Then maybe.

[akurtz]

target end cap 😂😂

[yomfweeee]

How did they F it up?

We all agree the original was a great game right. If that game let you pay to buy Power, does that make the game unbuyable? Even if the game didn't change at all, you would be totally against that? Even though it wouldn't affect you a single bit.

[Zeke68]

I think he means that all games that let you buy "Power" in any way is made so that it takes ages to level up and you as a player are meant to reach a point when you go "F this, I cave in and buy that microtransition "Power" "
So in the end the game is tuned so if you don't buy any powerup content you get stuck in a neverending leveling experience that kills the fun in playing that particular game.
I don't support games like that myself and I know alot of my friends will boycott this game too. Shame really, looks like a solid game otherwise.

[yomfweeee]

Until there is proof they made the game a grind, don't make stupid statements. I haven't played a game this generation where I needed to buy anything to prevent a grind.

[00]

If true the game can go into the trash. I'm liking all these greedy game devs and publishers saving me a lot of money though.

[yomfweeee]

Stop the complaining until we have some idea how the game even is.

[Yi-Long]

Why!? The reasons why we are complaining already affect how we feel about the game and especially it's anti-consumer greedy developers.

Could be an absolutely amazing game, but after all the greedy crap they're pulling, there's simply no way I'd even consider buying it.

Not sure if the devs or the publishers are to blame, but either way, it's as if they're limping their own race horse before the race has even started...

[yomfweeee]

That just proves the ignorance of the Anti-Flag crowd. Even if the game is great, you won't buy it because of something completely optional? Ridiculous.

[Summons75]

No, nobody should even buy this game out of protest. It doesn't matter if it comes out and the systems we hate now are still things we hate. WB isn't going to look to comments they are looking at numbers. If sales numbers are good then we only showed them this kind of scummy activity is okay, and it's not.

[zuul9018]

Youre absolutely right, but I expect youre also smart enough to realize the n4g community is such a small portion of the people that will buy this.
Not saying you shouldnt make that comment or even make the stand, just that I would imagine you (or me or anyone here) not purchasing the game wont actually make a difference.

[senorfartcushion]

Buying it on sale.

Cba with this.

Everyone else should, too.

[WePlayDirty]

I wasn’t going to buy this game anyways.. but this is sad. I feel bad for the fans for this series.

[DillyDilly]

Time to pirate it

[skinox1]

It will probably have Denuvo DRM.

[Skuletor]

That's usually cracked within a week

[Tototot]

Why stop at dlc?, what if the base game become a one-time deal too, finish the game, then u can't play it anymore.. Hahahahaha, jk,

Hope the game will be as good as the first one

Let see where this goes on release day

[81BX]

Love how the article even states they aren't sure if it's true... yet the birds keep cherping!

[senorfartcushion]

Chirping*

[81BX]

Thanks saw that after I could edit. At that point... didn't give a sh!t lol

[ThrowingDigitalSheep]

Really hope these rumours aren't true but will have to wait and see. Seems a shame if it is true

[-GreenRanger]

"Really hope these rumours aren't true"

Please don't, for your sake. They are on par of what WB would do for this game. But if they aren't true then great.

[ThrowingDigitalSheep]

Fair point I guess

[Moe-Gunz]

Man f**k this game. Going the Evolve route.

[Hamnett666]

Evolve certainly had its issues. Was such a shame to see that game go the way it did

[No Way]

I had this pre-ordered. I cancelled. I'll torrent it.

I may buy it afterwards, if I feel like the micro transactions and gold buying nonsense doesn't slow the game down.

[lociefer]

Whats the big deal, the game is f2p... oh wait

[Chaosdreams]

This game had everything going for it. I was super pumped. But all of the bad press on its shady decisions lately. I went from wanting to preorder -> waiting -> waiting for discount -> don't even want to play it (many games, and I rather spend my time supporting those who aren't trying to nickel and dime me).

[kopko]

Same here dude, I thought this game is THE shit. Instead it turned out to be just shit

[Zeke68]

Same here. This game went from Must buy -> Pass in a few months just because all the microtransaction bs.
Hopefully they do a Diablo 3 (auctionhouse was patched away from the game) and save it and even improve it in better ways that actually make it more fun to play and not more expensive to play.

[kopko]

"How to fu*k up perfect game in a few steps by WB"

[merciless]

Loved the first game but wont touch the second instalment. I'm buying evil within 2 instead. One time use DLC orcs? Da ****? they litterally have orcs popping out of loot boxes lmao.

Shame on you WB. Shame on you.

[starforge71]

i would like confirmation on this issue as i was going to get the gold special copy with all the dlc but if its one use only then ill pass on this game

[81BX]

Are these comments not enough confirmation for you?

[Hamnett666]

It is still rumours atm have to wait and see

[Realms]

These mofos are getting greedy ASF!! RIP Shadow of Mordor I enjoyed the first game but I refuse to support this kind of BS.

[Indigon]

Damn this game.

[Psychotica]

Video game, I damn thee..

[SinisterKieran]

it wouldn't make sense to be able to get the same orc over and over again in the same army even after they die. especially when the same orcs can come back to life as part..metal i guess. come become a clone war.

[Thomaticus]

Wait for a sell!

[Psychotica]

or even a sale..

[jznrpg]

Haha , but isn't it cheaper on sell?

[Thomaticus]

It's not much of a sell right now at full price. That's why we're going to wait for a (more tempting) sell.

[Thomaticus]

That's cool. I was going to pick up the GOTY edition anyway.
Tip: If it's WB Games, get the GOTY edition, when they give you everything for 29.99.

[Bleucrunch]

I will just wait for the complete edition, online for a game like shadow of mordor wouldn't make much sense to me but it may be a lot of fun for others.

I do not think people should get too upset if they are doing this, just do not buy the game and wait for that complete edition. Besides there are a lot of OTHER games to play so no need to worry about the DLC whores.

[latinlegend81]

This is perfect example of greed. The first one was one of my favorite games of 2014. They saw it was successful and are feeding off it. Always online, microtransactions, and now this? As much as I loved the game, just to teach them a lesson I'll wait till the game of the year edition releases for $20 or flash sale on PlayStation.

[HighlyDoubtful]

So freakin disappointing. Was so excited for this game and it's been the biggest let down. Refuse to buy this, even on a discount. Oh well, plenty of other games to play.

[bolimekurac]

just like the last 2 rumors didnt turn out the way n4g trolls made it out to be most likely neither is this as this is a rumor