Difference Between Xbox One X And PS4 Pro Is Not As Big In Terms of Development – Streum On Studio

The PS4 Pro and the Xbox One X are rather fundamentally different hardware- the former is an iterative, conservative refresh of its base system, while the latter represents a full, radical overhaul. Indeed, it almost seems as though there is more difference between the hardware of the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro than there was between the vanilla Xbox One and PS4.

[chrisx]

Ps4 pro will have amazing exclusives like God of war, Spiderman, Horizon ZD etc and the xbonex will have mostly 'console launch exclusives'. The Ps4pro is the real Beast.

[cbuc1125]

The only other smart guy on this forum. This guy knows what's up.

[freshslicepizza]

What is the highest attach rate of any PS4 exclusive, 10%? Nintendo can hold the claim exclusives matter and can show proof people buy the system to play Nintendo games. The Playstation needs multiplats so stop acting like they play second fiddle to exclsuives. We all know you guys will do anything to downplay the Xbox. This topic is about a multiplat developer talking about how its easy to port games to the midcycle upgrade hardware, not about your fascination with exclusives and segregating communities through exclusion.

[thekhurg]

@moldy

Attach rates are stupid. Rentals and used game sales make up a huge chunk of the industry.

[ocelot07]

I like how this moldy guy keeps mentioning how all games will perform better on the XOX like everyone is just going to dump the PS4 and Switch and buy an X. I wonder if he thinks most people bought a PS4 over an XB1 due to the ever so slight power advantage the PS4 had.

Such a trooper fighting the good fight.

[hamburgerhill]

It's true PS4 is a beast when it comes to exclusives and maybe just maybe X1X will follow that pass one day. As far as power though, it's a different by story all together.

[Xx_Pistol_xX]

@moldybread People buy Sony because its covers everything from exclusives to multiplats and from AA to AAA. Attach rate is good info but that's really about it. The PS4 has over 100 games that each sold over 1 million copies each.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[DARK_WOLF]

Xbox one X has a big power advantage over the pro. Which makes it the best console to play games on.

[DARK_WOLF]

Theres more to gaming than a handful of sony exclusives.

[rainslacker]

@Moldy

What's the attach rate of the vast majority of exclusives whose name doesn't include Call of Duty, Assaassins Creed, or Destiny?

Multi-plats generally sell with the same relative percentages for attach rate as exclusives, with stand outs and poor sellers for both.

[freshslicepizza]

@rainslacker
"Multi-plats generally sell with the same relative percentages for attach rate as exclusives"

Then why do so many only want to talk about exclusives? Especially when there are far more multiplat titles to choose from. When this site gives just as much credit and interest to multiplats then i will give just as much credit to exclusives. But we all know moving forward the talks about exclusives will grow now that the worlds most powerful console is coming out.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I like how people get angry about the multi-plats argument, no one in their right mind factors that in because you can play them on any console. You want to play it with the best possible experience? Get a PC, want to play it as cheaply as possible? Get a PS4, the only console you can gloss over if you worry about multi-plats is Nintendo since they don't get the majority of multi-plats. And we know power isn't everything, the baseline PS4/Xone are almost the same, it's barely worth factoring the minuscule power difference in when making a purchase. And regardless of all this argument about power, most people will be buying the vanilla or slim versions of PS4/Xbox when they do make a purchase.

As for the graphical difference, it's like the PC, the developers are just going to enable and disable features, increase/decrease resolution (upscale where needed) and effects to get reasonable performance and a good looking game on each console. It's not that hard since all the console this gen are similar to PCs unlike last gen.

[madpuppy]

Moldy, you sound like a smug Xbox 360 owner that forgot it's 2017 and the PS4 is so far ahead that the XB1 has long since disappeared below the horizon....

[badz149]

@moldybread

Xbox has nothing but multiplats but why hasn't it take off like the PS4? why is it left in the dust over 30mil units away? is it "because the PS4 is available in many more markets than the Xbone" argument again? and why is the Switch with so little multiplats supports continue to rake in huge numbers? because Exclusives matter. end of story!

that is why MS now stretches the definition of the term "exclusive" however they can whenever they are doing press conference because it matters! Aaron Greenberg doesn't care lying through his teeth just to say "Xbox has the biggest exclusives!" because you know why? EXCLUSIVES MATTER!

[TripleCs]

@Rainslacker

You hit the nail right on the head. Why people keep using attach rates as an example to discredit the importance of exclusives is beyond me. It's literally one of the dumbest arguments someone can use. Are people really naive enough to think that consumers are gonna buy 60 million copies of a game or around that number just because Sony sold 60 million PS4's? Even if the next Battlefield or Battlefront game sold 5 million copies on the PS4 it would have a 12% attach rate or lower. The biggest multiplats have low attach rates on PS4 just like they do on every other console even though they've sold millions or a sh*t ton of copies so the whole attach rate argument is moot. Attach rates are probably not the best way of gauging a games success because if we use that logic then you can pretty much call almost every game released a failure...

[Dragonscale]

@darkwolf, theres more to gaming than powah. Those handful of exclusives is actually a lot more than just a handful and is the reason scorpio won't do jack.

[FPS_D3TH]

I just don't see the one X getting any exclusive support or even extra third party support. Things gonna die before it ever releases if they don't shape up

[Death]

@badz,

You assume PS4 is selling well based on exclusives. That can't be any further from the truth. When you look at North America and U.K., sales for Xbox and PS4 are pretty even despite Sony having more exclusives. The exclusives have almost no impact where both consoles sell. Sony has a much larger worldwide appeal which is why and where they sell those additional millions of consoles. As a result they make more games and have more exclusives to appeal to gamers in those countries/regions. If you like those games and they are localized where you live, that is fantastic and a good reason to buy a PS4. If you are like many of us, you don't care about them but still use their existence as the reason you prefer PlayStation.

[RacerX]

I just really like my Xbox... But I really wish they would step up the exclusives! Sony has been killing it, and I'm jealous of that. MS needs a more consistent exclusive launch schedule.

Shoot, I can't wait for Destiny 2, and even PS4 is getting preferential treatment from Bungie with that deal... Missing out on content AGAIN... Frustrating.

[freshslicepizza]

Well there is already over 1,000 games that will likely perform better on the XB1X than the Pro out now, plus any future multiplat titles. You also won't be able to play Halo, Forza/Forza Horizon, Gears, Ori, Cuphead, State of Decay 2, Sunset Overdrive, Sea of Thieves and well over a hundred of other titles on your PS4. Plus 450 Xbox 360 titles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

The PS4 may have more exclusives but I can live without them.

[SpaceRanger]

"The PS4 may have more exclusives but I can live without them."

The Xbox One X might play games better, but it can't live without exclusives. I'm happy that at $400 or less, I can play games that look good and can't be played elsewhere. Still waiting on games to play something else other than Siege on my phat Xbox.

[Goldby]

What's the attach rate on those games moldy?

Didn't you just state that exclusives don't matter in this conversation and it's about multiplatform games

[bluefox755]

Oh moldy...

[goken]

hey you may decide to have sunset overdrive over spiderman, sea of theives over horizon zeo dawn, cuphead over rachet n clank, ori over persona 5, halo over uncharted 4, state of decay over last of us 2. you could choose the public bus over limousine,...just know that you're wrong

[CernaML]

"The PS4 may have more exclusives but I can live without them."

Surprise of the decade.

[Ashlen]

LoL you talk about living without exclusives but use exclusives to make your entire argument...

This is probably your weakest argument ever, for every exclusive on xbox I can literally name 10 games that are on PS4 but not Xbox.

[MegamanXXX]

Goodluck with that. I newd Bloodborne and Horizon in my life

[MegamanXXX]

Goodluck with that. I need Bloodborne and Horizon in my life

[stuna1]

Dude you're trying too hard! You act like your life depends on the sales of Xbox 1 X!? Face the fact that 1 the generation is pretty much done when it comes to Xbox 1 catching PS4! 2) The majority gamers that already have PS4's and Nintendo Switches won't automatically drop things to go buy a Xbox 1 X! But that's ok, because they have 1 person that we know will! You.

[VforVideogames]

moldy came out swinging!!!! L O L

[showtimefolks]

moldy

you argument abour attach rate is phony because ps4 has the diversity so everyone doesn't bu the same 3-4 games. And maybe you haven't noticed but gears 4 didn't sell like past gears games and halo has slowed down when compared to the high point(halo 3)

forza has never sold well. GT5 outsold the whole forze series(GT5P and GT5 game) a average GT game as in GT6 sold better than every forza game. And GT sport bundle will do big numbers and GT sport will outsell forza by 8-1

65 million strong against 30 million which install do you think publishers care about more? and your defenbse force is talkign about beast if power was everything than how come you were so defended the idea of 900P and 1080P being the same

PS4 will get to 100 million consoles sold before xbox one will get ti 50 million and if you don't understand why publishers want to deal with sony than you don't know basic business

keep believing what major nelson and phil are telling you and how they have games in development while sony has been delivering those games every month

and here is the last myth about sony announcing games too far in advance where is scalebound? were is crackdown 3 announced more than 3 years ago? how many delays did quantum break get again?

very easy to talk but in famous words of lavar ball stay in yo lane soon switch will catch/surpass xbox one in sales and xbox one will be a distant 3rd console

[trooper_]

You can live without exclusives? Really? So what you're saying is that you're not a true gamer who wants the most out of his console?

Good to know moldy.

[Kryptix]

Moldy, more of a laughing stock than RookieMonster ever was at this point.

Talking about exclusives not mattering and then proceeds to mention "exclusives," oh, I mean...console exclusives.

If performance was all that mattered to you, you would of built a PC a long time ago.

Here, I'll give you a headstart so you can build one like I did before that extremely disappointing Xbox One X comes out:

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[Allsystemgamer]

Ever thought that the Xbox attach rate is higher because there is a smaller selection?

Kind of obvious...

[TheUndertaker85]

Not to mention there's more exclusives going to Xbox & Switch compared to PS4 between now and the end of the year

[Stogz]

Don't you not have an Xbox or ps4? Don't know why you fight so hard when you have no stake in this...

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I would really like to have Halo, Gears and Sunset Overdrive, but I can't justify buying an Xbox for just those three titles (and I can get most of Halo/Gears on PC, I'm hoping the rest of the games in those series will come to PC as well).

I ended up buying most of the Playstation exclusives personally.

@Moldybread,

That was a really weak argument, you were better off saying nothing.

[OffRoadKing]

That's a lot of PC games you listed there Aaron, oops I meant moldy. I''l give you credit, at least you're a consistent diehard xbox fanboy.

[Zero_Suit_Samus]

“Difference Between Xbox One X And PS4 Pro Is Not As Big In Terms of Development – Streum On Studio”

I’ve yet to see a game on Xbox One X or the BEAST as Xbox fanboys call it that looks even close to Sony’s exclusives such as Uncharted 4, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, and Horizon: Zero Dawn.

[jasonpugh]

Maybe get some glasses then.

[WilliamSheridan]

Yeah I agree. I love my Pro, but those X games are looking beautiful.

[modelgod]

Oh how awesome will those exclusives look on the beast!

[LastCenturyRob]

Its sad when you see little trolls like chrisx that have zero life who beyond desperately have to troll the comment sections of consoles she obviously does not own so she can feel some sort of self satisfaction. Don't worry, maybe someday the console you own will make you relevant! LOL! Good luck with that!

[OffRoadKing]

I wonder if you're intelligent enough to see the irony of your own comment, I highly doubt it considering you're one of the biggest trolls on this site. gtfoh

[LastCenturyRob]

@ Offroadtroll...then by your logic you are guilty of the same thing....Not very bright are ya?

[LastCenturyRob]

@ Offroadtroll...Confronting trolls does not make a troll lil guy.... You don't see me going onto articles about games and consoles I don't own just to spew hate non stop. Peopel like you and lil chrisy go onto articles about things you obviously want nothing to do with and then desperately attempt to belittle those who dare not purchase and play exactly what you do.... You are just a pathetic 12 year old who's mommy won't buy you everything under the sun so you have to lash out and troll....Epic fail, little fella!

[Bobafret]

Don't worry Chrisx, your box will still dominate, hopefully you will sleep better now.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Always the jealous PS4 trolls, jealous of the power of the Xbox One X. say what you want you whiny little trolls!

Xbox one acts the definitive console of this generation!!

Halo 5,6
Halo Wars 2
Forza 7
Crackdown 3
Quantum Break
Cuphead
Recore
Gears of War 4
And EVERY AAA game that is released from here on out will look and play a hell of a lot better on the Xbox One X!

[OffRoadKing]

But not better then on the PC where all those games you listed can also be played.

[DarXyde]

And it probably only cost you $1,000 between two Xbox consoles that play the same games!

You go, mate!

[BeOpenMinded]

Horizon is already out and it's fantastic, I'm also looking forward to those other two games as well very much. I'm also looking forward to what's dropping on xbox and some of the upgrades to existing games. Neither console is a beast but each have their perks, especially those without a gaming rig can enjoy a cheap alternative in X as well for some PC games with early release on console. The X draws more excitement than the pro for me, I feel base PS is fine unless your into VR

[jasonpugh]

I can only lol at this statement. Have fun with your 8 to 10 hour single player exclusives. Personally that's not me or most people's types of games. I would rather play the best multi-platform multiplayer games available. The exclusives arguement is really a reach by folks who want this console to fail. Why do you really think PS4 got the head start? You really think it was their exclusives? The answer is no. It was because it had the best performance for all the multi-platform releases. You know, the games that sell more than 5% of the install base.

[Condemnedman]

it was always about power and it didn't help ms messed the launch up . Sony has just had a great year of exclusives but upto then it didn't have a massive difference. it all depends on your choices but if going forward you want the best 4k content for you 4k tv then get a one x, if you want Sonys exclusives get a ps4 or just get both.

[Father__Merrin]

Ps4 ps4Pro has same multiplats AND more exclusives. Therefore you have the better deal of you buy playstation.

Lol at people who say exclusives don't sell as much as multiplats lol its your loss your not a gamer if you purposely want less games lol

[Gravesinger_]

@chrisx still up to that petty console dick waving I see. You guys should really evolve.

[vegasgamerdawg]

My subjective opinion is better than yours. Arguing subjective opinions shows a lack of understanding the most simplest concepts of life. Frankly, it's embarrassing what N4G has turned into. Years ago it was the Xbox 360 fanboys dominating the conversation, it just depends who's in the console sales lead and you'll easily figure out where all the little children and easily influenced adults want to talk about. So immature and just flat out silly. I regret every time I come into the comment section. I need to stop, no one has anything new to say except " My favorite company is better than yours." Same conversation for the last 10 years...insane. Grow up please.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Yea..., OK!! 😂😂😂 You need to stop with your PS4 praise and come back down to reality. There is nothing mentioning exclusives. This article is about game development. But you keep holding on to your "Exclusives" rant, brother!! 😂😂😂

[Kribwalker]

hows that witcher 2 platinum coming? I know it's a long game, have you been able too finish it yet?

[modelgod]

If that's the case then why did the feel the need to make a Pro? They could have rested on their laurels of exclusives.

[cbuc1125]

They aren't the same but the Power difference isn't as big as some would have you think either. If the Xbox One used a Ryzen cpu and Vega gpu, then they could talk. A few more Gigs of RAM and slightly sped up chips of the same type do not equal a big difference. The games will be very comparable.

[KingKionic]

" Power difference isn't as big as some would have you think either"

Unless you have Helen Keller vision.

Lol.

[cbuc1125]

Or unless you don't know anything about computers.

[DarXyde]

Pretty tasteless comment.

And you're all better off just waiting until One X is out and compare the newer games then.

And then, people can decide if any differences in visuals are worth the upgrade.

Sound good?

[KingKionic]

Rofl these comments are insane after Digital Foundry said theres a 43 percent compute difference.

Even said Xbox one X is doing high end visuals in 4K.

Cant make this up.

[Nyxus]

Digital Foundry also said there is barely a noticeable difference between native 4K and checkerboard.

[KingKionic]

Lol of course because that`s what Digital Foundry said about the Rise of tombraider face off right?

It was clear as day that the Rise of Tombraider xbox one x in native 4K with the top of the line textures,lighting and added visuals it was superior on Xbox one X.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Wait till Gears of war 4 and Halo 5 are shown off.

You better believe the difference will be just as massive because Xbox one X is designed to be a big difference compared to the Xbox One version.

[Nyxus]

@ Kionic: Just repeating what DF said about it, because it seems to be blown out of proportion here.

[DarXyde]

Didn't DF mention a ~50% performance difference between the base models? People swore there was no difference. I barely saw any, though the exclusives really showed PS4's advantage. I wonder which side of that fence you were on. Were you singing its praises?

Moreover, the more powerful the hardware, the more power you will need to pronounce differences. You say Tomb Raider shows big differences, but I believe DF compared them as 1080p w/ super sampling vs 4K. Not a bad idea, but they should also do 4k vs 4k, knowing both can.

I'm not at all expecting Pro to look better, period. But I strongly believe you should wait on newer games before comparing. I actually think multiplatform titles will not be worlds apart, but exclusives might.

[MegaMohsi]

Man Kionic you make me laugh, very insecure little child trying to justify his little box that's getting destroyed by the competition. Go on keep making your sales pitches though it's hilarious.

[KingKionic]

@DarXyde

"Regardless, the fact is that both Rise of the Tomb Raider and F1 2017 are adopting native 4K rendering in situations where PS4 Pro is checkerboarding instead, and that's a comparison point we really didn't expect to see. After all, this represents is a 2x increase in the native rendering resolution between Xbox One X and PS4 Pro, from hardware with a 43 per cent increase in compute power and a 50 per cent uplift in memory bandwidth. "

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Facts.

[Allsystemgamer]

And the Xbox offers nothing I can't get on my pc other than bad exclusives and poorer performance.

Why would anyone buy an X when the ps5 is due to come out rather soon?

I mean...you had to wait 4 years into this generation to gain any sort of "bragging" rights and even then it's literally just a slight texture bump and a slightly higher resolution. That's nothing to be proud of.

It was petty with 900p v 1080p and its petty now.

4k is great but that's literally all you're really getting. Multiplats at a higher res. whoppty Doo.

[Rude-ro]

Doing high end visuals on Xbox one games. Like the actual physical copy of the game.
You know, from that console that is beyond weak for this gen. Those are the games getting pushed.
Due to that console being what the game engines are being built for, you are not going to change the games to anything new.
This race of "power" is the biggest joke of all. The core engines of games is what sets the differences in the actual games.
A game like horizon from the PS4 would not be capable on the Xbox one with the engine as is. It would be dumbed down and would not be nearly as impressive due to graphics and performance. The system is not strong enough.
Those are the games you are getting. From a slightly improved system over last gen. But with 4k shine. Yay.

[DarXyde]

KionicWarlord222,

"Facts"? You act like I am disputing One X's power (that many of you now cherish so dearly). I know it's powerful. I know It's going to have plenty of games in native 4K. The thing is, I don't care; for me, chasing native 4K is a waste of resources best used elsewhere. I'd rather they do 1440p with 4x MSAA personally. Even at 1080p, I'd be okay. Not going to bother hoping for frame rate enhancements since both companies went lightly on CPUs. Just admit a lot of you guys are now as jaded as you believe PS4 gamers are and be done with it.

[Guyfamily999]

40 percent GPU boost means native instead of checkerboard (usually), not noticeable to most people. 30 percent more means room for ultra textures, still not game changing but at least it's actually visible in a comparison. And the CPU is only 10 percent faster, so if you're expecting any radically different gameplay or framerates, you don't understand technology.
And don't forget, it's a year later and a hundred bucks more expensive.

[KingKionic]

Lol you say "means native not checkerboard" "ultra textures" as if this is some small feat.

You guys need to knock it the hell off like for real.

This is beyond laughable.

Xbox one X is a massive difference regardless what console you compare it to.

[Bigpappy]

Ultra Textures are everything. That is the real differentiator between XIX and the Pro. Even native 4K doesn't do much for visuals without the high resolution textures. 4K makes images look clearer and sharper, but the textures are what make people go "Wwwow!"

[choujij]

@KionicWarlord222

No, maybe you should knock it off. It seems you're getting more enjoyment out of talking about x1x specs and settings than you ever will playing it after release. A better spec'd mid-gen console releasing a year later with no true exclusives for $100 more warrants you losing your shit? Seriously, if all you care about is specs, then build/buy a badass gaming rig that puts x1x to shame, and plays all it's games and so much more. At least then you'll actually have REAL beast with exclusives.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

What a load of trash. Fan boys claiming they saw a difference between ps4 and xb1. Now their going Stevie Wonder while every single Dev has praised the Scorpio.

[PFFT]

The Sony fanboys are in full Denial mode thats all it is.

[PFFT]

Nope! The difference will be there no if or buts about it.

[Sharky231]

Couple that with the fact that it has to run on the two base consoles! I've been saying they will be comparable for a while now!!

[Zeref]

Did you see the Ryse of the Tomb raider comparisons? If you did and still think its not a big difference then you need to check your eyes sir. This is a much bigger gap than Xbox One vs PS4 where you had to look at the label to know what platform is running on or you had to squint really hard.

[zb1ftw777]

The power difference is a whole PS4 worth of teraflops.

Undeniable fact.

Although I'm sure deniers are going to disagree with this fact.

[FyBy]

You are right! I have ps4pro and gaming pc. When I look on pro and x1x from pc perspective, x1x has same slow cpu (little bit beefed up), has better gpu and better memory bandwidth. Thats all, no big deal. I think neither pro or x1x has tru 4k native power. And neither is any sort of beast. Really, no. What makes both consoles special are their chipset features and rendering techniques. Without them neither console can do native 4k 60 fps. But thats fair. For 400-500USD you get machine that can do 4k. It doesnt matter how. You cant do that with PC in the same price level.

[Inlightengamer]

They are talking about development. Has nothing to do with power. Just making the game run on the systems.

[deadfrag]

The only way the Xboxone X could ever be call a big evolution over the PS4 pro that could possible lead to switch of PS4 pro owner to the Xbox One X was if the games on the Xbox One X would start running at 60fps and the PS4 pro version at 30fps but we already know thats not going to happen even with games running at 1080p.All games will run at the same framerate between the Xbox One X and the PS4 pro,im not seeing many people paying 500 euros just to have a resolution bump in some games.The difference between 4k and 4k check board rendering its not so obvious has a difference between 60fps and 30fps.

[Guyfamily999]

The CPU in the X is only 10 percent faster. If anyone thinks that's gonna lead to framerate differences they're delusional.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

^ This, the CPU doesn't even factor in that much, especially when we get past 1080p and head for 4k, as the resolution goes up, the GPU matters more. The CPU will only give 4 or 5 frames difference and that's being overly optimistic. Look at the Ryzen 7 and i7 comparisons, makes a difference of about 5 FPS in most titles give or take depending on the game.

[S2Killinit]

it would be stupid to buy a xboxoneX because by the time any of that power actually shows the new generation would be right around the corner. The smarter choice is to enjoy all the games coming out on PS4/Pro and wait it out until the real beasts arrive in the next gen.

just my two cents.

[Chris12]

So we deny ourselves a couple of years of better gaming experience waiting? No thanks, I'll be enjoying the next few years with the most powerful console and then buy next gen when it arrives.

Just my two cents.

[AcidDvl]

"So we deny ourselves a couple of years of better gaming experience waiting? "

Better? Why?

How does better shadow resolution and more pixels help in the gaming experience?

Stfu m8.

[Skuletor]

So I guess you bought the PS4 Pro too, since that was the most powerful console before the Xbox One X.

[Nyxus]

You can always want for better. Then I'd have to get a 4K tv first, but not a regular one, an OLED, otherwise I'm denying myself the best experience. But I don't have a couple of thousand euros that I can just spend on that. I'll stick with the base console and a 1080p screen for now.

[S2Killinit]

Its not "better" though is it. Look if you have all the money in the world, by all means get all the consoles you want. But, if 550 dollars needs to pay back the investment, tyen its wiser to use that money to buy games and not a console that doesnt and hasnt had any memorable games in the foreseeable future.

[Chris12]

@aciddvl - so advances in both graphics and sound do not make a better experience? The power does not create more elaborate and detailed worlds? Does not create more believable characters with better animations? I'm scratching the surface here.

STFU? I guess I'm dealing with base level here.

[AKS]

The X looks like a very good machine, but I'm not seeing great benefits from buying it over my current PC/ Pro combo currently. I can get Gears 4 or Forza 7 on PC. The Pro is the weakest hardware (of the >HD platforms) but has an excellent library of very high quality games I can't get elsewhere. Multiplatfom for me would be PC versus X...not a favorable situation for the X. Perhaps I'm just not part of the audience Microsoft is targeting.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Even though I think the XoneX arrived too late into this gen, I'd argue you should concern yourself with getting a 4K tv first if you want the best experience, I only just got one, but I don't think buying a PRO or XoneX is worth when they both struggle with native 4k and I already own a vanilla version of said console, I'd rather wait for next gen for a better 4k experience if it does happen.

[shiva1]

Why not wait till 2050. Im sure one will get a cpu that melts all the water on earth and gpu melts the living organisms as soon as its switched on. Wait on bro and until then build all those PC parts as you always have the worlds high end PC in your basement.

[Condemnedman]

nope not waiting my X Is coming 👍

[marquisray]

Yea just wait until all of your ps5 comes out at 600 dollar's lol in two months

[Nyxus]

Can we hold you to that?

[Realms]

It's kind of hard to get exited for new hardware when there are no compelling new games coming from MS. These MS fanboys can tout the power of of the x all they want but I suspect there won't be this massive difference sure better resolution and maybe even better performance but with MS line up looking pretty anemic it's a hard sell for non X box blind fanboys.

[zerocarnage]

That's like saying I'm not getting this new phone because there's nothing new with it. We know new phones are different in shape , colour, size, do come out with better chips inside yet they all do the exact same thing which is ring out, access the games store,message and access internet, but everyone flocks to buy them.

People like to upgrade and get the latest tech on the market that they are interested in, it's always been the way so I do not know how Sony fanboys can't figure that out.

I'm sure there is no one at home with you who keep saying upgraded and more powerful consoles won't sell without exclusive games. The Xbox does have some exclusives maybe not as many as the other atforms but obviously to the millions of xbox subscribers, they are the ones sending the message that exclusives are not as important as Sony lovers keep saying. 49 million Xbox subscribers between all there consoles are sending that message that's a fair big message being sent out.

[Realms]

LOL. Exclusives have always mattered and it has nothing to do with Sony or Nintendo and everything to do with MS's lack of investment in their own brand why the hell would I as a consumer want to give them my money without MS proving they mean business. If people want to get excited for the x by all means but objectively looking at the situation there are no compelling games coming from MS. Sony is bring Spider Man, God Of War, The Last of Us 2, GT.

MS desperately need an exclusive to make people see how the upgraded console takes advantage of the extra power without that it's a hard sell to many including me. So again outside of the already existing fanbase it's going to be hard for MS to sell the X to gamers that aren't already xbox fans.

[OB1Biker]

Just clicked betting it would be gaminbolt and yes it is.

[Guyfamily999]

"the former is an iterative, conservative refresh of its base system, while the latter represents a full, radical overhaul."

40 percent more GPU power, 33 percent more ram, 10 percent faster CPU. That isn't radically different. That's just what you expect from a piece of technology coming out a year later for an extra hundred dollars...

[Allsystemgamer]

NU UH! it's means all new games will be in 4k at 60fps ultra settings and better than pc lolololololol /s

[Fishy Fingers]

They all run similar architecture from high end PCs down to the OG XB. Consoles even more so, making multiplat development much easier and at the same time it’s far easier to tap into each systems (consoles) potential and exploit the hardware.

[TheColbertinator]

This is the most pathetic time to be a console gamer. Arguing over the Jaguar CPU while Microsoft and Sony throw feces at each other to excite the mindless masses. At least the console wars last gen were funny.

These modern devs and publishers show little originality or spark to make you rethink gaming. The sooner we move on to next gen,the better.

[Ricegum]

Do what I do. Ignore everything and get a PC.

I'm pretty much done with console gaming.

[TheColbertinator]

I game on PC already and its still the place to be.

4K,mods,free online,variety,K/M and good communities and thats just the start.

[rainslacker]

Where has Sony really ever tried to make their PS4P something to counter the X1X? They barely talk about it. It gets very little marketing compared to the PS4 in general. And Sony spends more time talking about games than they do about the PS4 brand as a whole.

Not sure why you think it's a sh*t slinging match between the two, because Sony doesn't seem to be playing that game.

I do agree the console wars were funnier last gen though. However, the stark contrast between this gen and last in how the companies handle themselves is quite interesting. MS seems to be devolving to act more like their fan boys, while Sony is just showing games, and mostly not talking about most console war related topics.

[TheColbertinator]

Sony is more lost than Atlantis.

[Cryptcuzz]

@TheColbertinator

I think you mean to say MS is more lost than Atlantis lol. If not, care to elaborate?

Did they really think a beefier console without differentiating exclusive games will turn things around for them this late in the gen?

MS this gen has done nothing but play catch up with Sony in every regards.

X1X at $500 is playing right into their plan.
A cheaper PS4 and cheaper (say $350) PS4 Pro will bury the the X1X whenever Sony does decide to play that card.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I wouldn't want to move on from this gen yet, we haven't had a console gen this good since the PS2 days, not that that matters if you game mostly on PC.

[BIGBOSS08]

Power actually means nothing if you don't have the developer talent. For example, when xbox one x releases later this year will it have a game that looks as good as uncharted 4 or horizon? Even running on standard ps4 they will look better than anything on xbox one x. Talented developers is more important than just a powerful box. Look what sonys developers can achieve on the standard ps4. Their games look like they're already running on 8 teraflops of hardware.

[ElementX]

"Look what sonys developers can achieve on the standard ps4"

Exactly why I bought a Slim and not a Pro. The graphical differences between a 3rd party game on X and One will be greater than the difference between an exclusive on PS4 and Pro.

[zerocarnage]

Who are these guys, not heard of streum before, even typed it into Google and Google didn't know them lol.

What games do they develop??

For every developer, developing is going to be different from the way they develop to how experienced they are, same goes for the way in which each person uses tools ..

I don't know but to me where one developer may struggle to use the differences another with much more experience will be able to do a lot more with what's available. It's no different than everyone in a factory, not everyone is the same speed or has the same focus and concentration as others on machines, there work is a different output.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

That is why Xbox is really a next gen machine even if MS and Xbox supporters do not want to admit it...If they did it would be admitting to a console gen whoopin....But If they did admit to Xbox 1x being a new gen then they could enjoy a lead in console sales...even if they only sold 1 Xbox 1....

[Rhythmattic]

Sort of true... i shall look back at this, and if the XbX supports VR (and One doesn't), we shall know, it was MS's next gen... Lied to again.

[InKnight7s]

Vegeta planet boomed!!! Freiza laughs so hard at checkboarding 4k on BOTH!!

[KingTrash]

The power difference is big and I'm proud of Microsoft for stepping up and doing it right...like they have with Xbox live and their infrastructure in general. They need exclusives but they have killed it in every other aspect and they have my respect and preorder.

[Rhythmattic]

On point
"They need exclusives"

[AmUnRa]

Wait you are proud of a company?? O boy🙄

[zb1ftw777]

Not as big as what?

Title of article makes zero sense.

[loadstone007]

X1X is a big mistake in my opinion. Too powerful and not really iterative - which means the X1S will drag it too far down. PS4 Pro is a bit more powerful and shows relatively minor improvements - so the difference is small compared to the standard model.

In the end, whoever buys X1X pays a lot more than PS4 Pro and will get the same in term of 3rd party title quality. But Sony has exclusives - which tips the balance completely.

[Starman69]

Xbox one x was created because playstation pro threatened the brand. Ps5 is timed perfectly to take advantage of new AMD tech. Im afraid xbox are totally playing this wrong again, again and again

[Dragonscale]

These articles go to show exactly how upset the fanatx really were over the weak sauce xbone the whole time. 'we play games not resolutions' for nearly 4 years. Now listen to em, bunch of hypocrites.

[BenRC01]

It can have 1 billion teraflops but without a bungie halo its just bits of wire.

[SirBradders]

The difference between the pro and scorpio is not as big a difference between the Base ps4 bone to pro scorpio which won't sway people over from Sony to MS Imo.

[corroios]

The reality is hard to accept. No gamer stops the game to look for diferences. Only the hardcores that are thirsty to say what microfoft is telling for 16 months the most powerfulll, 6 teraflops, monster and pr talk like this.

Microsoft should have in last 16 months building studios to create new and amazing experiences. Did they? Nope. Sony is too far away with massive support fom japan, eua and europe.

[SpinalRemains138]

MS has an opportunity here to run with this new powerful system, but it is going to need exclusive heavy hitters. New IPs and investments.

[Gantrfaxx]

Games will show... as usual.