Genesis Alpha One Dev On Whether Xbox One X’s CPU Will Be A Bottleneck, Talks About 12GB RAM

The Xbox One X is an amazingly made bit of hardware, one that has been beefed up in just about all regards to be a conclusive step up over the existing Xbox One... except for the CPU, which remains a bit disappointing in terms of how little attention it got relative to the memory and GPU.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

CPU the X is a bottleneck is not surprising, again Xbox 1 X is a nice machine.

[Obscure_Observer]

CPU on consoles will only be a bottleneck for games running on old/outdated engines which heavily relies on cpu-bound tasks, like Destiny 2.

[Ashlen]

By "like Destiny" you mean any open world or large scale multiplayer game, right?

[Princess_Pilfer]

That is simply not true. The CPU still has to process draw calls for the GPU. The CPU still has to process portions of or the entirety of the physics (depending on what they are doing and GPU load.) The CPU still has to keep track of all the objects and collision detection. Modern games on modern engines (Like, say Watchdogs 2) are heavily CPU bound.

[EddieT]

Please explain why Anthem is 30fps then.

[Bigpappy]

Anthem is 30fps because it will focus on graphics, including effects, over 60fps. Developer's decision. With be the same on most 4K PC's. Please keep in mind the X1X only cost $500 and not $1600.

[Bigpappy]

Actually he never said that. He pretty much insinuated that it possibly could be, as he has never uses the X. The also said he is targeting 60fps with his game on the X and pro, but the X's VRAM will allow for better textures and more variety of those textures.
But again he has not worked with the X yet, so he doesn't and can not know how much of a bottle neck the CPU is. It is a premature question.

[jhoward585]

The xb1x CPU is not a bottleneck. That is what the PIX tool is used for.....

[butchertroll]

So, it's not bottleneck in Pro too.

Jaguar is crap CPU in every single way. Period

[SierraGuy]

Yes thank you ...ps5 will have a monster cpu.

[81BX]

Thanks troll

[Mulando]

no, jaguar is very efficient for it's power target. bigger cpu would mean, higher price for the apu, higher power-consumption (for the cpu-part) bigger cooling solution, bigger form-factor.
The xbox one x is right now the maximum you could squeeze into the $500 price (including taxes, controller, ....)

btw, the switch-cpu is really crap ... so cpu seems not to be that relevant anymore as more and more is outsourced to the GPU.

[KingKionic]

Lol gamingbolt with these indie devs.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

After watching there gameplay the last thing they need to be asked is about any bottlenecks.

Look at that dudes face at 0:54. Thats disgusting.

[nismo370]

Feel sorry for them

[Bigpappy]

I listen to developers, no matter how small. But he hasn't work with the X yet, so he is generalizing and really can not know much about the console just yet. He still has positive goals for it even though he seems to desire parity with the pro.

[bumbleforce]

Well all the shown games so far tell a diffrent story. X1x performs better all around

[LP-Eleven]

As it should, but there can still be bottlenecks, despite the up-ticked performance.

[xsta1ker]

everyting hits bottlenecks @ some point all depends on demand of the game and optimization
but for sure x1x will out perform any other console on the market com November 7th fact.

[butchertroll]

Xbonex performes better especially in graphics department, not in framerate. If some game is 30fps on Pro with dips here and there, on XBonex will be a stable 30 fps, not 60. That's a huge jump, but for that you need much stronger CPU, not some upclocked Jaguar crap

[SierraGuy]

This thing is marginally stronger than a pro....junk cpu. If u ask me cpu is more important than gpu this hardware gen.

[xsta1ker]

ark survival evolved is 60fps @ 1080p on x1x with ultra pc settings...proless runs @ 30fps @ medium settings thats a pretty big deference wouldn't you agree.

[butchertroll]

@x1staker

Ark? Really? Game is pure tech crap with bugs on all platforms. Why isn't there such a jump in fps in every game on XboneX compared to Pro.

Btw. If you didn't know. Ark devs removed 60 fps from Pro.

[LP-Eleven]

@ Xsta1ker: I don't have to be reminded of the X1X's advantages over other consoles. The discussion is regarding bottlenecks. There will be plenty of them, just as there are in any other device that runs these things. That's the point. Doesn't matter how much "better" the X1X will be.

[xsta1ker]

@ LP-Eleven I'm sorry but i thought this article was regarding the x1x cpu and it's bottlenecks
i simply stated a fact about the x1x cpu inline with such article was not speaking to you specifically.

[letsa_go]

Yeah LP-Eleven, he simply stated! That's all! hahaha It's simple.

[butchertroll]

Ark dev removed 60 fps option from Pro. Why? I dunno!

https://mspoweruser.com/xbo...

As i said :

Xbonex performes better especially in graphics department, not in framerate

@xsta1ker

ARK is a such a mess on all platforms.

[leeeroythe3rd]

Far less bottlenecked than ps4 or ps4 pro... every design has a weaker point

[EddieT]

Actually no, the disparity between the CPU and the GPU in the Pro is not as wide as the one in Scorpio.

[LP-Eleven]

Not sure why you're getting disagrees for that. It is factual. If anything, it is BECAUSE of the X1X's additional GPU power that we see this disparity.

[letsa_go]

calmer than you are

[xsta1ker]

@butchertroll but it's more of a mess on the pro right.

[LastCenturyRob]

A "perfect" console would probably cost consumers at retail roughly $800 to $900....that being said, the X is a powerhouse no matter "if" it may have a short coming or two. Even at $500 it is a beast and a very good bang for the buck! Can not wait for my Scorpio edition!

[sk8ofmnd]

All consoles become bottlenecks at some point. This should be no suprise.

[EddieT]

Scorpio will be limited to 30fps in openworld and other CPU intensive games. Console manufacturers seem to think everyone only cares are graphics and resolution. It's a disappointment.

[Lennoxb63]

No, console manufacturers know that most gamers don't know what a frame is. So instead they put the available bandwidth into graphics and resolution.

[Bruh]

It depends on the engine, older engines that DX-11 based are heavily CPU bound and thus yes it'll get bottlenecked. However more modern engines ( UE4, Anvil Next, Frostbite, etc) are DX-12 based and have a pipeline for GPGPU processing and thus can be optimized very well on the One X, not to mention DX-12 integrated on the die, developers don't have to do as much work.

Like you're seeing 900p engines scale to near 4K, thats in comparison to 900p engines scaling to 1440p on the Pro. The console is very well designed

[Sy_Wolf]

Of course it's a bottleneck

[sadsatan]

but but but... it's a "monster"

[SierraGuy]

The real monster will be ps5.

[glenn1979]

There will be always bottleneck on console sooner or later because you can't upgrade parts, its up to the dev. to go around the bottleneck