Xbox One X Pre-Order Delays a Possible Result of Government Lag?

Where should blame be assigned when it comes to the late pre-orders of the Xbox One X? Well, if Microsoft had it their way, pre-orders would have opened right after their E3 2017 briefing concluded.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Yeah it's getting kinda close to release now. You would think pre orders would have been live by now. Either way I'm buying two day one. Hopefully they have a trade in offer for my one S. I'm looking forward to playing AC:O on this bad boy.

[Miss_Weeboo]

I'd be quite angry if I just bought a One S and couldn't trade it. MS did have some trade in offers in the past, so it might happen again.

[babadivad]

Why couldn't you trade it in?

[indyman7777]

Yeah it will happen. Even if they don't stores will come up with one.

I wonder what is up with FCC? They delayed approving the Nintendo SWITCH's Pro controller until it was one month till launch. This caused a shortage in Nintendo SWITCH pro controllers.

[81BX]

Damn, 2? Money bags Magoo over here. Not sure I wanna part with my s, but I guess there is no reason in keeping it

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Yep 2. I usually buy two of each consoles. I like having all my systems in my living room and bedroom. There's really no use in keeping the one S so I'll upgrade that to the X and buy an addition X for my room.

[81BX]

That's cool. I usually game in one room. When I got my s i put the black one in the living room. It's good for the kids

[Bigpappy]

I can see right through this. They are now waiting to do the show in Europe and announce there. I just don't want to wait. I got this 4K TV last year, and it even makes my 1080p game look better. But I want to see how 4K games really look on it.

When I watch AC on youtube and someone dies, the game is up and running in seconds. And that game in a big open world game. Plus it looks to play very smooth. so I am ready to take what they give for my OG Xbox1 and move on.

[rainslacker]

I don't think there is actually anything preventing them from doing the pre-order without having their approvals from governing bodies. Certainly wouldn't prevent such things in other countries, although I understand why they may want to do it all at the same time. They couldn't actually sell the system....as in give it to the customers and finalize the sale without them, but a preorder is just a promise to provide a product, not the actual exchange of said product. Until that product goes into the consumers hands, it's not officially sold, so this whole waiting for govt approval thing is just BS.

In any case, wasn't it just approved last week? If so, I'd imagine that they'd start them by next week if that's what they were really waiting on.

I imagine there will be some big to-do on MS part about how one can now rush out and pre-order them.

[BeRealisticNow]

It's already got FCC approval, this article is about a week and a half late for that.

[Eonjay]

Thank you I came here to say this. Enough incorrect info out there for us to be approving patently false material.

[subtenko]

I didnt approve it, dont look at me o.o

[rainslacker]

I imagine MS wants to make a big deal about it for some reason. Personally, they should have just opened them up after E3. There was no real reason to wait for FCC approval for something like a pre-order since the pre-order isn't the actual sale of the product and certainly isn't the exchange of the product. If MS was confident it'd be approved....which I'm sure they were....there was no reason to delay. In any case, the FCC may be behind, but I doubt it's by months like this article posits. MS said they wanted to start right after E3, so they should have gotten on that sooner. This system should be in full production in China somewhere by now to get ready for release. If they didn't get approval, it would cost them a ton of money to fix whatever problem the FCC found. If they were confident it'd pass FCC regulations, then they should have just opened pre-orders and been done with it.

Somehow, I think the FCC approval was just an excuse for some other reason they wanted to delay. Maybe worried that the pre-orders wouldn't be that high, and that that may imply a lack of demand, which would be bad press for them. Instead, string people out for months, then hopefully they'll be excited to pre-order the second it goes up, and it looks better for MS.

Probably a dumb reason if that's the case, since outside the initial X1 luanch, I can't think of any major console that didn't sell out of it's pre-order allotment.

[Atanasrikard]

More of your tinfoil hat garbage. More and more I see you are one of the biggest Sony fanboys on this site.

[WilliamSheridan]

Actually you couldn't be more wrong. They need FCC approval to sell the item. Legally. People who don't know what they are talking about shouldn't speak

[rainslacker]

You need it to sell the item. but a pre-order is not a sale. It's a promise that you will get one and can have it sold to you when the time comes. A sale is not a sale until the product changes hands or a service is rendered. Technically, no money even has to change hands for a sale to be finalized or to get a promise you can buy one when the time comes, but there are usually stipulations attached to keep it from being finalized.

The PS4 and I believe the OGX1 had not passed FCC approval.

Here's the PS4 article about it.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com...

FCC didn't receive the test unit until the week before it went up for preorder, June 3, 2013. Sony had their press conference on June 10th, and the system went up for pre-order on June 11th(Stores were closed after Sony's conference on the 10th).

FCC approval came mid-late July.

So, yeah, I agree, people don't know what they're talking about, but I'm not the one that shouldn't speak, because I'm right.

Care to say how I'm wrong now?

MS itself may have wanted to wait for FCC approval, which is fine, that's their perogative, but people are acting like MS hands are tied, and they weren't, thus negating the entire point of this article trying to cast the blame on the government itself.

@atanas

K, well thanks for adding to the discussion. Fan boy or not, I'm not wrong.

[yomfweeee]

Wouldn't be the first time Spencer lied.

[Storm Shadow NF]

Actually it's the chip that sits in water that is the delay etc. Going to be a short supply for first 6 months

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Phil said there are no delays. The beast is still coming.

[SpaceRanger]

Yeah idk why people keep pushing this silly content. They're not gonna delay the Xbox One X, that's for certain.

If anything the only impact would be limited quantities at launch and then a huge holiday stock.

[MegamanXXX]

I'm sure the games are coming too. 😁

[MegamanXXX]

Salty. That's the best you can come up with. Hopefully when Xbox two come out you will have more exclusive games to play since it's been almost 5 years since this gen started👍😁

[JasonKCK]

Well, they sure as heck aren't coming for the PS4 anytime soon. GTS, Knack 2, 2 DLC's til Spider-Man sometime next year.

[Aenea]

@JasonCK

PS4 (console) exclusives for AUGUST alone:
- Patapon Remastered
- Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
- Lawbreakers
- Night Trap
- Nidhogg 2
- Matterfall
- Zero Time Dilemma
- Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
- White Day: A Labyrinth Named School
- One Piece: Unlimited World Red
- Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash
- Warriors All-Stars
- Windjammers
- Everybody's Golf
- Yakuza Kiwami

You were saying??

[WilliamSheridan]

I have a PS4 as well, and I'm never proud listing a bunch of indie games as exclusive. Who cares. It's shovelware.

[Aenea]

@william

Well, Xbox fans are listing Ori and Cuphead as exclusives as well so Indies count.

Besides, half of those on the list aren't Indies...

[JasonKCK]

Yeah, some are multiplats.

:O

[Aenea]

@Jason

All Xbox console exclusives are multiplat as well. So that's kinda silly of you to say!

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Are we not talking about pre-orders?

[ziggurcat]

I think the delay in this particular case is related to the pre-order availability, not whether the console itself will be delayed.

[DrumBeat]

I'm going to buy one because the tech nerd in me insists. I always buy the most powerful console a company has to offer, but I'm not really excited yet. I wish Microsoft Studios would make exclusives for it, pushing the hardware to its limits and not having to think about the limits of a less capable machine.

[Eonjay]

The may be able to do that eventually but how would the logically be able to explain that to people who already own it. It's nearly impossible for that to fly.

[InTheZoneAC]

Thank you for being a proud beta tester regardless of the circumstances

[conanlifts]

Any admin on here. What is with the annoying releases video pop up with the Tekken trailer. I assume I am not the only one. It is happening on my mobile and pc.

[Sniperwithacause]

Suck too!
Every time
Then a verizon Ad on the top corner

[Sgt_Slaughter]

The small ad that pops up can't even be closed since the X isn't fully visible.

[conanlifts]

That's the most annoying part. I can't visit n4g on my phone due to it getting in the way. I have created an error ticket and reported the issue.

[Prince_TFK]

Just use Adguard. It is available for both andriod and ios and although it drain battery abit, it blocks the ads very well.

[SgtSlaughter212]

Who do you think you are using that name?

MODS!!! HELP!!!

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[81BX]

Yeah the past 4 days, ads have been poping up for me

[ninsigma]

Advertising is getting worse it seems.

[BeOpenMinded]

I wanted to make that comment as well, I can't get these ads off my screen!

[ILostMyMind]

And that's why every day more people use Adblock.

[conanlifts]

Is it possible they are still trying to figure out how many they can manufacture in time for its launch?

[rainslacker]

The system would already be in production. They have about 3 months to get them made, distributed, and then to the retailers. To put it in perspective, other consoles start production at least 6 months before their release and sourcing(getting all the parts to the manufactuer) would begin a month or two before that . At the very least, they'd have all their sourcing done by now, and would be well aware of how many they could make.

[conanlifts]

You could be right and i am sure they have an idea. But i was wondering if they were experiencing delays due to the hovis method during manufacturing. If so could this be hampering their ability to predict launch availability compared to other consoles. Of course i do expect preorders to open this month.

[Automatic79]

I am keeping the One S, trading in my second OG Xbox One. Xbox One X is future proof and 4K ready.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

you may want to look into the 'future proof' part.

OT: As this will probably be my first Xbox, I want to lock one down asap. I registered the night of E3 as soon a so could. It's gonna look bad if they can't get enough made by launch.

[Bigpappy]

There is no way they have enough at launch if they do a world wide launch. some people will be frustrated by shortages. I am so ready to make full use of my 4K TV. Better at least have enough to cover pre-orders.

[Automatic79]

@xX-oldboy-Xx

If you think about it, future console will give you what the X offers already.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Well given the article self admits to being 100% speculation clearly the author doesn't know. Frankly does it matter what the reason? If its Govt. does that make it go any faster or slower? Is this just wanting to put blame on somebody? I suppose the last question really is what this is about. The need to blame someone for something that really doesn't matter. If you pre-ordered last month...or next week..the console still wont be coming to you any faster than November.

No doubt the delay on pre-orders has been a combination approvals, manufacturing and setting up partner deals( as in TV bundles & Taco Bell). Think back to the PS4 Pro...they held announcing it until September 2016 and it launched that year so really I don't see this delay as being a real issue other than it keeping some fans awake at night waiting for the "pre-order" button to go live.

[rainslacker]

At this point, the only reason a reputable retailer wouldn't do pre-orders is due to not having an allotment number from MS. There is no other reason to really delay them at this point, at least nothing that I can think of in a normal scenario.

MS likely knows how many they can make by November. They surely have all their sourcing done. They likely have their early orders and allotment requests in. The only thing holding up the pre-orders on a business level is MS. FCC approval isn't required for such things. It's not even required to start manufacturing, although they'd want to make sure they would get approved before starting that otherwise it could cost a lot of money to remedy.

I do agree though, that it really doesn't matter if people did it months ago, or the day before. If they can get their pre-order in, then they should be set. Seems a lot of fuss has been made over it, although it usually a short lived fuss when some article comes in to fuss about it.

[GHOSTxTZ]

They need to hurry up either way im getting it

[Obscure_Observer]

Mine is day one!

[DAEMONIFEAR]

Same thing happened with ps4/ps4pro

[ziggurcat]

Uh... no. Both were available to pre-order immediately following their reveals on the E3 stage after the whole presentation was finished.

[ziggurcat]

this isn't about how many people pre-ordered, it's about when it was made available to pre-order. I pre-ordered both the PS4, and the Pro as soon as they were finished their E3 presentations.

[chris235]

the xoxbox will be sitting there right away on the shelves looking good. that's about all that will happen. but then again, people are buying something like the switch, so who knows how many are out there who really don't focus on gaming and want more of a multimedia experience. at the moment it feels like the consoles branch of microsoft will die with a bang.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

It'll sell ok, but I don't think they'll have shortages, as for Nintendo, they always have shortages with hardware for some reason, some people think they plan it that way.

[PGRfox]

The "delay" is only for more hype. They didn't exactly wow us at E3, so they are probably planning to show something big soon to get more interest/pre-orders.

[rainslacker]

That's actually a reasonable assumption. If the hype wasn't built during E3, then they may stave off the pre-orders so they can come out and try and get more people later, thus making it so they get more pre-order numbers, thus making it look more in demand, thus generating more hype.

If the pre-orders open to bad numbers, it just makes MS look bad....not unlike the time after the reveal of the OGX1.

I was never of the belief that it was an FCC thing. That's just dumb. FCC approval isn't required for pre-order. I don't even think the launch X1 or PS4 had FCC approval when they put them up.

[corroios]

Or they are afraid of the pre orders numbers where they will lose the power to hide the numbers.

[ziggurcat]

"Where should blame be assigned when it comes to the late pre-orders of the Xbox One X?"

Partially on MS for not having all of that ironed out before their big reveal at E3.

[Redemption-64]

Honest question, why would MS give a release date to a system that the government has not given the green light to go into production? It's a fact that a lot of government roles have not been filled yet, as trump has not appointed any, so one can expect things might not go as planned, so why not maybe give a release window rather than a solid release date, when some factors out of your hands can delay your product?

[rainslacker]

Wouldn't matter for this kind of approval. While FCC may get a new chairman, or whatever, the rules are going to be the same, and MS only has to meet the requirements for when it files for approval, not for when it releases. Most changes to FCC regulations are given a time frame to be adopted, so companies know of changes that may come up a year or two before they ever file.

For the employees of the FCC who would manage the approval, I doubt they are being let go and need to be replaced outside normal turnover. A change of a new president shouldn't hurt their job unless their funding was cut or their directives changed, and that kind of thing wouldn't happen so quickly after the president took office, as that's something decided by congress appropriations.

MS was probably damn sure it'd pass FCC approval. It's not really that hard to be honest. UL listing is actually harder, but it's not really required to have for consumer sales. It's likely they got a preliminary approval, and they have people who review such things to make sure it's kosher before filing. FCC filing is fairly routine, and doesn't take months to get. Only reason they wouldn't get it is if they hadn't finalized the initial production, and if that's the case, then MS is cutting it really close on the manufacturing of the system, which means they're rushing the system, which hopefully doesn't turn into another RROD fiasco.

[theXtReMe1]

Obviously its out of Microsofts control... as, what kind of sense does it make to limit the potential sales and your ability to forcast interest? They need to get it squared away soon, or preorders are going to be the least of their worries.

[fever]

The government all Sony fanboys?

[jelydonut]

That doesn't make sense.. FCC doesn't sign off on testing results. If they have not completed FCC, then that is due to the hardware not passing Class B testing, which is Microsoft's fault. Once you pass FCC and UL, you can go right into production before the documents are completed. I know this because I design hardware and have needed to do FCC many times through a test house.

EDIT: I see below that it has already passed. So doesn't matter now..