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Splinter Cell on PS4: The hopes, the dreams, the nightmare

Is a Splinter Cell PS4 release on the cards? What will the next Sam Fisher game be like? And will Ubisoft dare to change the stealth game to open-world?

2pacalypsenow2841d ago

Please no, don't make it open world. That ruined MGS5

Bigpappy2841d ago

Because it didn't work in one game it must never be done? I would leave such concerns to the developers. They have much more to loose and a better idea what will work for their games.

2pacalypsenow2841d ago

Not with a stealth game. Like Splinter cell

_-EDMIX-_2840d ago (Edited 2840d ago )

Exactly. Stealth element I would argue works even better because it gives you a huge element of being able to get to the area from multiple different angles through multiple different weather situations and time of day

It let's you realistically assess the situation as opposed to pre baking you in an area.

Metal Gear Solid V is easily one of the greatest stealth games ever made giving you an absolutely ridiculous wealth of options because of that open-world format.

@2pac-considering what Ubisoft has done with Ghost Recon wildlands yes the stealth element very much could work with Splinter Cell in terms of open world I mean Metal Gear Solid 5 has very much proved that such a thing can work very very well.

And please get out of here with your vague comments if you want to stay open world did something to Metal Gear Solid 5 specifically spit it out give us why open world hurt the game.

Metal Gear Solid 5 was never made to be some RPG , exploration game , it was simply made to be an open world stealth game, the openness was created to allow you to attack your objective from multiple angles like you would realistically do, do you really think that in the special ops they just magically blink their eyes and appear at a location?

Do you really believe in real life that special forces don't have to take into consideration weather conditions time of day or other elements?

Mind you how can open world hurt Metal Gear Solid 5 when they give you an option right in front of your eyes to load to the damn areas?

JasonKCK2840d ago

It worked for Ghost Recon.

krypt19832839d ago

@edmix splinter cell is the best stealth game not mgs period...

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_-EDMIX-_2840d ago

Not really

the open-world concept made lots of sense for Metal Gear Solid especially considering all the elements like the day and night cycle and being able to approach a mission at all different angles.

I think the biggest problem with people who criticize Metal Gear Solid going open world as they basically tried to play it like some sort of RPG or exploration game when that has nothing to do with the element being added in the game.

Open world can very much be used to have specific elements like a day and night cycle and like multiple areas to approach mind you open world in regards to the vast Mission layout was optional , you could have simply played at level by level and ignored lots of the vast openness.

What was wrong about Metal Gear Solid 5 in terms of its overall story had nothing to actually do with it being open world.

You could have made Metal Gear Solid 2 open world which pretty much it is in regards to the entire big shell, mind you if it had no loading and the big shell was one entire huge level with a day and night cycle it could have added a whole bunch of different unique elements.

I mean even when you look at Metal Gear Solid 3 technically to a point the entire game is one entire area.

I'm sorry but as a person that put well over a hundred and twenty hours in Metal Gear Solid 5 I could definitely tell you it being open world had very little to do with what was wrong with the game the story of the game was complete trash, with that has very little to do with the game being open world.

I mean so what you're telling me is if you had less options that would be better? Again technically speaking you have the option to Simply selected the level in never Traverse between missions lol

I'm sorry but none of us really know what the next Splinter Cell is going to be to say whether or not open-world could or couldn't work for all we know the next Splinter Cell game could be about Sam Fisher finding someone in the open-world is allowing him to slowly find a specific person.

Most games statistically are made level by level, what happens in between those levels is optional they could have a vast open-world to give you the feeling of travel or they could give you a loading screen and you could enter the level after the fact.

No one's forcing you to Traverse Metal Gear Solid 5 vast Terrain

BeardedPriest2840d ago

I liked MGS5... Why was it ruined in your opinion?

ZeekQuattro2841d ago (Edited 2841d ago )

I don't see Splinter Cell returning for a while unfortunately. I just wish Ubisoft would at least make Conviction available for BC on Xbox One. Never had a 360 so I never got a chance to play it. Also no open world Splinter Cell. I like open world games but not every franchise needs to have them .

SCW19822841d ago

Only way Splinter Cell will be awesome again is if Clint Hocking is the Creative Director. Hopefully this is what he is working on at UBI MONTREAL.

Artemidorus2840d ago

Bring back the Co op use to love working together on missions.

Spies vs Mercs were fun too.

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Christopher1d ago

I'm kind of hoping they drop most hardware support here with a 'good enough console' next generation and focus more on being a publisher. Obviously that is doing well for them and they can still push cloud gaming since it's going to tons of smart TVS and devices. They're now the largest video game publisher in the world, if they aren't doing the most sales and pre-orders, then they would be in trouble. They aren't.

Lightning7719h ago

They're gonna try again with a new gen console. If they want to compete they need to actually be competive. Say games like Halo, Blade Elder Scrolls or whatever big game it is. Needs to only be on Xbox and PC. If those games go multiplat it needs to be after a few years or at least a year later definitely not 6 months as a good portion of ppl will wait. Knowing MS they'll probably try and compete, then when things don't go there way they pivot and change the metrics again.

crazyCoconuts14h ago

I don't think you're reading the tea leaves here. Leadership hasn't used the word "exclusive" in quite a while, and they're now boasting about PS sales. They're probably done with consoles and exclusive at this point.

DodoDojo13h ago

I don't think they'll try. They have been beating a dead horse for so long now and they have finally realized it isn't going nowhere.

Fearmonkey11h ago

MS is going to drop being hardware exclusive, they are going publisher and subscription. You will be able to buy a Xbox, but you will be able to play on any platform, that's their new goal. After the hit with Oblivion remastered and major sales on PS5, no more Xbox/PC exclusives long term..

rlow111h ago

I think with the latest price hike on their console, they’re well on their way to axing hardware.

Christopher10h ago

Hardware axing entirely is bad news. They've sold most of their hardware on the Series S this generation. I think if they capture a lower hardware market that can still buy games (especially on sale), they'll actually hit a good market considering how the economy is going. Especially in the U.S. People are going to want to keep gaming and streaming isn't that good for online gaming at all.

Lightning7710h ago

@crazy they've stated multiple times they're going another gen. The next gen Controller even got leaked.

Tired of repeating myself whenever it comes to this subject of Xbox having another gen.

IRetrouk7h ago

Xbox consoles are done, all we gonna get is some branded 3rd party shite at best, ms aint interested in being a console manufacturer no more, this much is obvious.

hiawa237h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Microsoft has too much money for that. They are rumored to release a PC/console hybrid in 2026. They will push all you hope as a publisher while having new hardware next year, so the games will appear on their platform and every other platform which is good to me if the goal is to sell software. If that is where the money is why would anyone fault MS for that? The prices are going to be insane for the next PlayStation and console from Microsoft, though, but it is what they voted for, so this is what we got.

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Obscure_Observer15h ago

“We continue to transform the business and focus on margin expansion as we bring our games to over 500 million monthly active users across devices. We ended the quarter as the top publisher by pre-orders and pre-installs on both Xbox and PlayStation Store.”

Amazing news!

Xbox reigning within rival territory.

Big slap in the face of haters who used to crap on Xbox´s games and its quality.

IAMRealHooman14h ago

........you must be part owl, you keep 180ing, your position.

-Foxtrot7h ago

One minute he says that they will NEVER go third party

Now he's all for it like this was Microsofts grand master plan all along.

Obscure_Observer4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

@-Foxtrot

"One minute he says that they will NEVER go third party"

Fact.

"Now he's all for it like this was Microsofts grand master plan all along."

False.

Never said it was Microsoft´s master plan all along. But it is REALLY working for us, as the fact that you´ll be able to enjoy Xbox gamers isn´t killing us. Rather the contrary, we are happy that everybody is funding our games on Gamepass.

Specially now with the imminent new $80 price tag for Xbox first party games.

It is what it is.

IAMRealHooman12h ago

how about that massive price hike?

Relientk779h ago

He loves it. Now he gets to support the trillion dollar company even more by giving them more of his money.

Reaper22_10h ago

I agree.. great news for Microsoft and tbe xbox brand. Your Playstation is now a xbox. Microsoft wasn't kidding around when they said xbox will be everywhere. Now they are laughing all the way to the bank. Imo sony needs to do similar things. They're putting their biggest titles on PC. Might as well bring them over to other consoles too. They aren't making much on console sales.

IAMRealHooman7h ago

Of course MS wants PlayStation owners, their is literally twice as many of them.

andy858h ago

Theres been one game in the last few years that's been good. Indy. Long way to go before you start talking about their games and their quality

Bathyj7h ago

Xbox gamers really are the strangest demographic. Not so long ago you are all saying PlayStation isn't the competition Amazon is because Phil said so. You love to parrot what your corporate talking say. That wasn't actually true Xbox and PlayStation were in direct competition but because Xbox was losing so badly Phil had to act like they weren't.

Cut to present day and Xbox and PlayStation aren't competition because Xbox has no hardware presence it's zero. In fact Microsoft is now a third party publisher and they need PlayStation they don't need Xbox or Xbox gamers they need PlayStation gamers and PC gamers and mobile phone gamers and switch gamers.

You're here cheering for the fact you've become irrelevant because you think it's important that your uncle Phil is making money. You think PlayStation gamers are upset if Microsoft releases more good games in a year than sony does. when Microsoft makes a good game you shout take that playstation!

PlayStation gamers simply say thank you I will third party publisher that makes me games

Reaper22_6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I think you're confused. Microsoft never saw Sony as their biggest competitor. They've reiterated it for years. Sony is doing the same thing by putting their biggest franchises on PC, which is OK with Microsoft. Their will be more playstaion games coming to Microsoft ecosystems. Maybe not to xbox consoles but playstation won't be the only place you can play their games. Kind of how it is now. I would bet that they are making plans to do just that but they probably fear the backlash from their fanbase which is silly because noone is gonna stop playing games just because it's on on another platform.

Obscure_Observer4h ago

"Cut to present day and Xbox and PlayStation aren't competition because Xbox has no hardware presence it's zero."

If that was remotely true you wouldn´t be so mad about Xbox gamers getting day one games on Gamepass that you have to pay full price for.

"PlayStation gamers simply say thank you I will third party publisher that makes me games"

And we´re thankful for Playstation gamers supporting Xbox games funding our day one games on Gamepass.

Like I said: Everybody wins.

gold_drake51m ago

i agree
my friend is also xbox everything, hes the same weird guy ha

gold_drake52m ago

propaganda again?

arent u tired of it yet?

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MrDead14h ago

We brought two of the biggest publishers in the world, cost thousands of people their livelihoods and consolidated a huge part of the industry, look how successful we are at gaming!

crazyCoconuts14h ago

Top Secret Strategy for How to Become the Biggest Publisher in the World:
1. Buy everybody

The3faces12h ago

And this has been standard business practice in every industry. Don't hate the player hate the game! lol

Reaper22_9h ago

Buy everybody....if you can.

Obscure_Observer11h ago

I have no doubt that the vast majority of developers and studios will be looking at Microsoft as far job security is a concern.

Microsoft will allow its studios to release their games to every single platform, which means more investment on new games, more money, more jobs positions, better payment, benefits and recognition among gamers worldwide.

You though MS would crash and burn

You want MS to leave gaming forever but GAMERS clearly wants otherwise.

You said MS doesn´t know how to make great games but Xbox games dominating sales on Playstation clearly says otherwise.

Now you also have Playstation gamers to blame for helping the rich to get richer.

I warned you. You were on a fool´s errand all the time.

Now all you can do is watch as MS and Xbox gaming grows bigger and better than ever and release games for everyone!

crazyCoconuts6h ago

At the end of this road, Bethesda, Activision, etc, will still be releasing games for everyone and Xbox consoles will be no more.

If that's what you claim to have foreseen, then congratulations, you win.

MrDead3h ago

You think three major publishers no longer competing and thousands fired to feed the piggies at MS is a good thing, I don't.

More and more owned by fewer and fewer is what you're cheering for, all that leads to is $80 first party games kid.

Luc2014h ago

When you have to say that something was a success, it means it wasn't

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