Ripten reaches out to Epic VP, Mark Rein, seeking his take on why the popular Gears of War sequel will not be making its way onto the PC.
porting the game to pc shouldnt be to hard, doubt they will pass the oppurtunity to make more cash.
This is true, but Mark implies that they worked on the two in tandem the first time around, and being that I am not qualified to doubt that, maybe they did. I know alot of us think you can just flip a switch once a game is complete and port it over, but maybe it isnt that simple.
No you can't flip a switch but members of the Unreal Developer Network are already playing a level of Gears 2 on the PC. Almost everyone in the Network is aware of this and know it is nothing but politics by Mark right now.
So lets say it is politics by Mark. Wouldn't you agree that if there was more upside he would be less political and put for the effort needed to make the PC version? If that is the case then maybe it is a piracy issue more than anything.
No because Mark is a businessman and he is simply conducting the age old tact known as product focus. In order to make sure sales are at their best it is necessary to reassure people that there will be no other version. Then 8 months from now they will announce the PC version and Mark will say, "The demand was just so overwhelming. We never expected that and we certainly back PC gaming. We really never intended to make a PC version and our people have worked quite hard" Last time around I had already played 5 levels, 5 levels on the PC while Gears was launching on the 360 and Mark was telling people there was no PC version currently in development. Everyone with a license was, in the meanwhile, laughing our collective asses off. It doesn't mean Mark is a bad guy. Quite the contrary, he is a great guy. He isn't being truthful but he also isn't lying for malicious reasons. It's simply business with him. When you deal with Mark and get to know him you understand that. I don't care for it but it's just Mark being Mark and everyone that knows him knows this.
I agree with Morgan Fell. And does anybody ever not understand that what companies "Say" is 100% different than what they "Do?"
...it will have all the bells and whistles standard, patch fixes, extra content, graphical tweaks, AND all the extra curb stomping goodness you can stand anyway. This isn't a bad thing.
...once the "piracy/360 focus" aka 'MS' contract to keep Epic's mouths shut' is resolved sometime next year.
Yeah, I'd agree with this. They also said there wasn't going to be a Gears 1 on PC either, but then they released it a year later.
Exactly. If you knew it was truly a 360 exclusive you would buy a 360, but since its multiplatform, you don't need to. Its business.
they have Fable for the Mac, even.
And this time around, he could just be telling the truth about no PC version. So go play your "PC version" that maybe or maybe not show up next year. Epic didn't make a profit difference when it was released on the PC, but on the 360, it sold extremely well. What makes you think Epic would strike that path again after finding the 360 to be gold for Gears. I'll just wait for the crybabies to start crying how they feel cheated and don't want to buy 360 for the game, and how they are so "Anti-Epic" now that the game won't be released outside the 360.
but I was under the impression that Gears for PC sold decently (but not great). Also, people have to keep in mind 360 games are mostly made on the PC (run/tested on the 360), there isn't really much of a "port" to be done.
Well, that's one less game my PC can't run.
I really don't see piracy as that huge of an issue with a game like Gears, whose long life is due to online multiplayer, something you can only do with a legit copy.
It will be announced for PC 8 months from now.
And it will have 6 new levels that couldn't fit on that DVD9 disc and then have 4 new boss battles. Man it sucks to be a Xbox 360 owner.
who wants this sh_it game the graphics look even worse than Gears 1
You're just a troll man. Have you not seen how much better those browns and greys look? I think they might have slipped in a faint blue here and there also.
Like they would pass a easy port like that because of piracy. Even if few people buy it for PC, it's more than paid by console anyway, not a real chance to lose money.
Remember MS owns the IP. I think they want to keep it own the 360 to bring in new users. Not a bad idea but come MS the PC version would own lol.
mmm...Epic owns the Gears of War IP...go check on the MS IP page and you will be surprised what they own and what the DONT :)
Yeah Epic owns the Gears IP. But MS has a contract with them for Gears 1 and 2. Or so people's claimed.
@VF34EJ25: correct right now MS has an exclusive publishing deal with Epic that includes Gears 1 and 2
My 360 can read pirated games. His sentence make no sense. I didnt bought a 360 games since 3years.
So you steal all your games? Then you post in the 360 section and almost sound proud of it. I read your past comments and you trash talk the 360 and then on the other hand steal 360 games. A real piece of work. I would use other words to describe you but this is the gamer zone. I'll be sure to pass your name along to some people that would be interested in talking to you as well as saving your admission of guilt.
BAM! Didn't expect that now did you!?
You just have to wait a year for it on PC if you are PC only.
Welcome to the new top seller on 360. There is no game this year that looks better and or will play better. Don't even metion kill zone2. That game can not match gears graphically. I am glad I got my 360. I still like my PS3 though.
yeah ur rite gears2 MIGHT (resistance 2) be the best graphics this year, but killzone2 is cming out nxt year, which is the best graphics on any consle to date. look, im gonna get gears 2, u can even check my comment ive been asking about which one should i get gears or fable. but seriously u need to take does fanboy glasses off, becqause u kno deep inside that killzone is the best.
Don't know about all that man. I've been playing Gears 1 for the past week, and it doesn't look all that great anymore compared to the first time I played it. When I first played Gears 1, it blew my mind away and couldn't believe those kind of graphics were possible on a console. Now it looks very dated. Granted I am speaking of Gears 1, but I just don't think Gears 2 will have the same kind of graphical impact. Nonetheless I love the gameplay, the gore, the characters, and everything about it as a video game. But Gears 2 is just going to be an optimized version of Gears 1. Which isn't a bad thing, but to say it's the best looking game compared to Killzone 2 is just plain fanboyism. They are at minimal equal but on a personal opinion KZ2 looks better. IMO one game that owns Killzone 2 and Gears is Wipeout HD. I can play that game from 1 feet away and it will still have crazy amounts of detail on the textures and great anti-aliasing. That game has some seriously mind-melting graphics that has never been seen before. And you have to see it on a big 46" and up TV to understand.
gears of war 2 is nothing more than a dlc on a dvd. Its the same thing as the 1st one at the exception that you can grab people and use your chainsaw.
Does it matter you will just steal it anyway? You lose all your rights to complain the minute you admit your a pirate(comment #8). Go away!
It is surely going to be ported to the PC eventually, this all sounds like a bunch of marketing hogwash to me. I just hope they do a better job with Gears 2 on the PC then they did with Gears 1. I've never seen a newer game that unstable in recent years, and that problem with the updating, that was a bunch of BS. Great game and all, but those kinds of bugs should never ship in a game like that, especially a high profile release like Gears of War. Epic and Microsoft have probably come to some kind of agreement to keep this game on the 360 exclusively for awhile so that they can use it to push 360 hardware sales like they did with the first Gears of War, and then Halo 3 last year. I wouldn't be too surprised if we see a Gears of War 2 SKU of the 360 out around the same time too. It's all business. And there is that damn piracy problem on the PC too (and it's on the 360 as well, might I add). I'll probably borrow this one off of my friends when he's done with it on his 360, then I'll just pick up the PC version next year. You know it's going to happen.
GeoW 1 did poorly in sales on the PC. There is no reason to port GeOW 2 as there won't be a return in investment. Ask yourself, does it make sense to port #2 when it will only be pirated and sell poorly? PC gamers are a sensitive niche group. If there is any perceived or real flaw to the game, its damned to piracy. Look no further than the prequel. There was a problem with the game and people pirated it. Its too easy. DRM? Not a reason to pirate. Publishers are learning their lesson. I'm not accusing all PC gamers of pirating, but it is a huge problem. There is a reason why games which were PC only in the past are coming to consoles. Return on investment and profit. I think game makers are tired of handing out free lunches. The Cliffy B and Mark Rein Gears pic...lmao
blindfromthesun, thank you, someone with logic about PC gaming. I agree Epic doesn't care about a couple of hundred dollars it could make on PC gamers, when 360 gamers will sky rocket the game to another very good profit for them. If it hadn't sold so poorly maybe it would be on the PC and 360, don't give me crap about if it would have been side-by-side released bull, it won't have mattered it would still result with poor sales for PC over the 360 sales.
Valve would like to have a word with you concerning console vs PC sales for a little game called Team Fortress 2. Also, Crysis has sold over 1 million copies so yeah. Make the game good, less buggy, and NOT only for Windows Live and you might sell more copies. Blaming pirates soley is a weak way out.
dont really give a fuk i got a 360. but sux for all those people who was gonna get it for pc. but sooner or later it will come to the pc.
...but we all know it's bullsh*t. It pisses me off too, because the PC version will probably come with bonus chapters and such, just like it did last time, as well as all the DLC we paid for, and it'll be cheaper on top of all that. If I didn't want GeoW2 so much, I'd boycott it. Alas, I can't see myself doing that =(
After the first Gears and Epic saying that they weren't doing a PC version and then did has left me skeptical.
Metal Gear was on the Xbox so MGS4 is coming to the 360, do I understand this right Sony fans? GOW is 360 exclusive right now as is MGS4 is for the PS3. lol MSFT can't realize keeping it on their console platform vs their PC platform will sell much more consoles thus making more revenue over all?(other hard/software sales), according to PS3 fans LowL.
About GeOW1 up to the point it was announced for the PC. They even denied rumors based on some kind of config files or something I seem to remember. Bottom line, give it a couple of years, it will come to PC and noone will care just as with GeOW1. Not bashing the game itself, it's great stuff, it just wasn't that hot on PC.
Nothing but PS3 fans in here worried about it go do something lol. Do you guys care because you buy the MSFT exclusive games on the PC or the fact you wan't to spite the 360? A hand full of trolls are not going to convince the masses the devs are pulling our tails lol, if it happens it happens lol.
What in the world did you waste your only 3 bubbles to yap about PS3 owners for? Noone is even talking about the PS3, we are talking about the *fact* that Epic said GeOW1 wouldn't come to PC up until it did. And now, (surprise) they say it's not coming for PC. It doesn't take a PS3 or 360 fan to acknowledge that. How someone could construe this to mean GeOW or the 360 is negative is beyond me but it's also beyond me why you think only PS3 fans would make such a connection. What, 360 owners buy up what Epic says without question? You think 360 owners are fools? GoW1 confirmed for PC in 2007 http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... "But Epic and Microsoft have shied away from that in recent months, asserting on several occasions that the game has not been confirmed for any other platform. Indeed, Rein was adamant on that front. Asked if he had "formally acknowledged" other versions, he said, "Nope. It's an Xbox 360 exclusive," before adding that the company would get round to it "eventually"." So yeah.. No fanboyism here, just calling it how it is. Gears is a great game and I am sure G2 will be as well, but it's coming to the PC eventually.
You wanna know something p.o.g! The so called "devs" are making GoW for the Xbox so they can fix all the fvck ups,so the p.c version runs .If you remember the demo at E3 crashed on the 3fixme LOL you fkkkking goofball.
why wait for something that's already been confirmed to not happen. if you want it just get a 360, if you don't have one already.
If they say it's not coming for PC don't doubt it. They said it, get it for the 360. If it comes out for PC get that too. Gears PC was great, but the online community was lacking! You still find people playing but it's not like the 360 where there's always people playing all the time! I had both Gears since day 1, and I love Gears to death, I'm online constantly so I know. I just hope Microsoft can make the NeXboX soon so Gears can play like the PC version - everything turned up @60 fps.
poor geeks and droids.
Well DUH because there is lots of piracy on PC too! the only console right now without retail games piracy is PS3 FACT!
No Gears 2 on pc. dam i'm not buying a sh^tbox
why so much hate?
it came to my attention recently that the arcade version of the Xbox-360 that I bought some months ago now never gets hot, seriously I mean you cannot feel any heat on the top, only if you place your hands by the extractor fans. Regards this game I agree with some of the other comments, I think graphically it is better than Killzone 2, I think KZ2 looks really good but it does not blow me away, I also agree that as good as Gears 2 looks it also is not leaps and bounds above version 1. I actually think Call of duty world at war judging by the new multiplayer video might just turn out to be the best of the lot.
have you seen the multi player demo of killzone 2 yet it looks miles better than the pre rendered gears of war 2 vids you must be mad.
The original was style over substance. Epic seems to have forgotten how to make a quality game (original Unreal Tournament). Now it is just fixated on buffing the shiny armour on their ridiculously bulky space marine-type heroes. Perhaps if CliffyB etc. spent as much time on the game itself as he does talking to the press, it might actually be a decent game. As it is, GoW2 will be a glorified patch
With these latest commens from CliffyB I think it is time Epic re-evaluated just what the hell hey are doing being on the board of the PCGA. They clearly no longer have any interest in PC gaming, which is fine with me their last two games on the PC were awful anyway ie gears 1 and Unreal Tournament 3. I don't think either of Epic's recent games suffered because of piracy. If Gears had been any good on the PC it would have been a million seller. However just as Epic have shown that they are not interested in PC gaming, PC gamers have shown Epic they are not interested in any crumbs that are thrown to them. It really is about time Epic and CliffyB just shut up and confirm what we all know they are now console only developers.
Oh please wha wha,no PC version ,Yea RIGHT! BS... Why is this??hmm ?is it using too many cores or or not enough Ram or Bluray storage is a factor??? LMAO ..no it is perfect for PC it is a already on a Budget PC called Xbox 360... NO this is just BS to sell the game ..We all Know THe 360 is a budget PC and Gears is built for PC's the UNreal Engine is a PC engine!! in fact it runs better on a PC at Higher Resolutions!!! it is a glory to behold.So don't worry it will be on PC!
Just like Halo 3 didn't. MS gets PC gamers hooked on the title by releasing the first blockbuster titles on PC (Halo 1 & 2, Gears of War, Fable) then they don't release the subsequent titles on PC (Halo 3, Gears of War 2, and Fable 2) in hopes that they will get some PC gamers to buy an Xbox 360 because they enjoyed the titles and want to play the sequels. And even if they do eventually come to the PC, the facts are that people don't like waiting.
Both Halo and Halo 2 took AT LEAST two years before they were even announced for PC. Halo 3 just HAD its first anniversary, so, how about we wait a bit longer to see if the pattern doesn't hold true? In regards to Fable 2, when Molyneux was asked about a PC port of Fable 2, he said he couldn't deny or confirm it. Which flat out means it is coming. :)
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