Sorry, CliffyB, But "Gears of War" Doesn’t Need A "God of War"- Style Reboot

Shaz from GL writes: “In an interview, Cliff Bleszinski says that he’d be interested in helping develop a Gears of War reboot akin to God of War. Unnecessary? I think so.”

[Jin_Sakai]

Regardless, Gears of War gameplay feels outdated this day and age.

[spicelicka]

I completely disagree. Outdated in what way? There is literally no other cover based TPS multiplayer game like it and the core gameplay is so good that people still play Gears 1 today. I can't think of any games that has shotgun battles like Gears. The real issue is that there is simply no new audience for it, because the learning curve is so steep. It just needs to market itself better and the work needs to be done on the campaign side. Better to just split up the single player and multiplayer as two different projects and releases.

Also, this who "reboot" discussion isn't considering the fact that God of war doesn't have multiplayer as a significant portion of the game. Single player only games have a lot more freedom to change. With Gears you have to consider that there's an entire community still playing every day, so you can't just change the core gameplay balance. On top of that they can't dedicate as many resources to single player as God of war, because the budget has to be split with multiplayer.

[Gamingsince1981]

There is no other one like it because there is no demand for that style of game, kinda obvious really. If there was an interest in gears style games the market would be flooded with them.

[Extermin8or3_]

It's clunky as fuck

[lucian229]

Gears of War 1 and 2 were bad combat wise.... Story wise too. I beat both of them because of the hype and gave up after that.

[GamerRN]

I agree. It needs done kind of overhaul, but I don't think a God of War style would suit this game.

I gotta be honest I don't know what it needs, but it needs something ... And 5 wasn't it

[terrorofdeath]

Maybe it's a reboot more in the sense of a more emotional storyline or something like God of War, and some small tweaks in terms of gameplay.

[anast]

They don't have the talent to do a GoW style reboot.

[DOMination-]

Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?

The Coalition probably have the best and most knowledge team on Unreal Engine 5 outside of Epic. I'd have thought if anyone "had the talent", it would be them.

[Rude-ro]

Because they did not do a fantastic job when they took over the ip.

In fact, the majority of ips under Microsoft shows complete signs of cheap development with bigger marketing budgets.

More make up on dated engines can work… but can not be mistaken for innovative.
No innovation equals no ability to push a franchise into anything new.
Take the “open world” introduction in the last gears…
Empty vast traveling areas to get to pre determined “random” encounter areas is a cheap developing approach.. not innovation to build any trust into.

[kneon]

Even if they were the best in the world at UE5 that would only mean that they might make a great looking game. It takes a lot more than that to make a great game.

[anast]

"Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?"

History and current output.

[jznrpg]

Look at the last 10 years and you have plenty of evidence

[rgraf77]

God of War is overrated. Those boring boat rides talking and backtracking.

[GamingManiac]

Bruh, that made me laugh lol

[anast]

I'm not big on the game, but it isn't overrated.

[Inverno]

A reimagining that continues the lore, and story of established characters is absolutely a great way to continue a series that needs a refresh. I agree that any long standing franchise that has run it's course definitely needs a "God of War" style reboot, because GOW did it right. I might have my issues with the last two games but they did right by the series regardless.

[Ra3030]

There's no helping Gears of Woke. Microsoft killed this franchise when they forced the woke culture into the story.

[refocusedman]

huh????

[itBourne]

God of War did the same, just in a more subtle sly way.... They could of probably made a few cuts and bam, PG rated movie right there. God of Rainbows and Daisies.

[itBourne]

Dang, so many dislikes lol, willing to elaborate, just didnt want to throw out a bunch of spoilers. If anyone wants to discuss as to why, im always open to discussions. Just shoot me a DM.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

How is it woke? Because the lead is a female?

Is Horizon woke also?

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

It is, but not due to the gender of its protagonist.

[zeuanimals]

There's no helping you. Anti-woke culture killed your brain when they force fed you the idea that diversity is the worst thing ever.

[Ra3030]

Lol....good to see that you agree as do I with the fact Microsoft went woke as Disney with the Gear franchise. Microsoft tried to save the franchise by taking the formula that was working with the strong Bro leads and going to the woke weakass female formula that no one cared about.

[Binarycode]

Diversity isn't a strength. Look at the world. That's the reason it's in the state it is.

[Gamingsince1981]

Forced diversity is the reason people don't like diversity, you should just hire who is best for what, not have to tick boxes first then worry about talent next.

[zeuanimals]

@ra3030

Every company has gone woke, even successful ones. Those don't fit your narrative though. Yeah no, the only two things Microsoft and Disney have in common is that they're woke /s

Totally not that they're risk averse companies that don't wanna innovate in fear of it being a waste of time. They've got bottomless pockets and limited time. So they spend their time trying to crack codes, find patterns, create money making templates out of whatever property they're working on. It needs to be as mass produceable as possible. Disney and Microsoft, bringing sweat shop factory made quality to gaming storefronts and theaters near you.

[zeuanimals]

@binary

Right because the world was so much better segregated... and there's a million other reasons I'd put ahead of diversity as to why the world is the way it is, but way to show how much diversity is on your brain by how dangerous you think it is. It's literally the cause of everything to you.

@gaming

Actually forced diversity is the only reason people like diversity. If you don't force people to do it, they won't do it. The only people who end up liking it due to having met new people with different perspectives only ever got to because they were kind of forced to. That's literally part of the reason diversity is being advocated for, because it promotes innovation. Having dozens of people with too similar of viewpoints can lead them to being too likeminded and unable to think of different solutions, or even different problems that weren't even recognized. There's more than one way to be a useful hire, and having a genuinely unique perspective is one of them.

[Crows90]

I thought they were doing a soft reboot with gears4 but then it turned out to be the exact same as all the others.

A more horror oriented and tight corridor renewal would work for that franchise....also...why they got guns? They're alien like...they should have other types of weapons entirely.

[OMNlPOTENT]

dang why do most of the different species in god of war use swords, axes, and bows? They should have other types of weapons entirely.

[Crows90]

They don't... Okay you obviously haven't played god of war. What a way of owning yourself man! Lol

The draugr are pretty much the only ones...and besides we're comparing established mythology with made up bug aliens

[Gamingsince1981]

Lol 🤡

[z2g]

Go home cliff. You’re irrelevant now.

[LoLCryBabyGamers]

Would love to see Cliffy B get involved with gears of war again, May do the franchise some good

[Knightofelemia]

Gears of War 1 and 2 are my favorite. Gears 3 I didn't mind but after that the franchise just feels boring now.

[Profchaos]

Agree 1 and 2 were classics by the time 3 rolled around the genre became over saturated so I didn't play 3 for years until Xbox one for BC and I decided to see if it was really as good as people made it out to be

[bOObies]

I thought this guy was retired. Didn't he learn his lesson when he tried to reboot FPS games with Law Breakers?

His attitude is trash and needs to go away.

[Profchaos]

He comes out of hibernation occasionally when he needs some money

[DivineHand125]

Gears of war was revolutionary when it came out and set the standard for 3rd person shooters going forward. Since the first gears, there have been many advancements to the genre and I would be happy to see it get a God of war style reboot, however, it will be very difficult to pull off.

We have yet to see that sort of talent come from any of Xbox studios and if they manage to do it, it will be like catching lightning in a bottle.

[Profchaos]

I agree back in 06 i brought my 360 and gears was my first game along with Saints row 1 but gears felt revolutionary it didn't invent cover based shooters there had been a number of them on PS2 I played but it was the first one that got it right.

Unfortunately for gears imitation wasn't the best form of flattery and we spent most of that generation getting gears of war clones along with cod clones that basically sucked the life out of the genre and gears for me.

It may of been the best cover shooter but when most games were got were cover based shooters it got old.

I don't think a gow reboot would work either as it its core it's still a cover based shooter you can't change that

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

How does a game where you play with an axe sets the standard for third person shooters?

[staticall]

I don't think Cliff Bleszinski have any understanding of what made the God Of War reboot great (judging by his previous games, after leaving Epic). And making a carbon copy of God Of War wouldn't work with Gears of War because focus is completely different.

I wish they would expand on Gears 1 and 2, more choices that lead to completely different maps, better controls, 4 players coop (1 team going map A route, 2nd team - route B) and such. Turn Judgement style challenges into difficulty options. Dunno, Gears had great stuff going for it, before they turned it into what it is now.

[CrimsonWing69]

I think it does and would absolutely support that.

[Eonjay]

Actually, what God of War didn't was really a continuation of the previous games story wise but simply updated the mechanics. And when they did this they actually brought in many new players without rebooting the whole franchise. Seems like such a formula could do wonders for Gears.

[ravens52]

How can emotions be outdated lol. If we got a remake of the Gow in the old fashion gameplay style they'd still sell and play fine with a few fixes here and there. So from today on we can't have angry characters.

[mastershredder]

Gears does not have the staying power., and Both series looks nice but are pretty damn basic (even as a reboot). Aw…Cliffy our doofy Fred Durst of gaming.

[VincentVanBro]

If they had the talent and the vision, I’d actually agree with CliffyB. Gears of War is not in a good spot right now.

[Murdability]

Well it needs something

[Sharterias]

Halo and Gears of War need reboots.

Those universes aren't as expansive like Star Wars as the devs want them to be. The story in Gears 4 and 5 was very weak to me. "Oh look, it's the Locust you wiped out in Gears 3, only they are all glowy now and have slightly different faces."

With Halo, it's even worse. That universe is so bloated that it's insane.

I'd fully support a reboot.

[-Foxtrot]

I feel they kind of f****** themselves with the ending of the third game which felt like a full on closed chapter.

If anything it needs a reboot but from the start, something where they can plan everything out so they don't write themselves into a corner again.

Just feels for Gears 4 onward we are just going in another loop.

I always thought it would have been a good twist if at the post credits of Gears of War 3 it's hinted or fully revealed that Sera wasn't the origin of the Locust, they had actually come from somewhere else and there was a war coming from above, not below.

[Profchaos]

That's exactly what epic wanted though they finished off with 3 and closed the franchise and walked away that was it there was never meant to be a 4 that was ms but being able to let go so they got a bunch of people together formed a new team and asked how can we undo the ending of 3 and keep this cash cow going

[DaleCooper]

A reboot such as God of War 2018 won't work as long as the focus on Gears of War multiplayer continues. Multiplayer-focused games are, by their nature, not cinematic. It's not always a bad thing, but multiplayer gameplay mechanics are, in general, at odds with story-telling single player mechanics. It would take stripping co-op from the game and focusing on the story, instead of multiplayer maps and dlc customizations to get anywhere near the cinematic adventure of God of War 2018.

[aarallen1]

Why not? Almost everyone deserves a redemption arc. I think they should what he can do.

[Binarycode]

I'm just laughing at the comments.

Woke of war

God of Rainbows

Rainbow of war

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[Profchaos]

Gears 5 was actually a good game but I don't think it's done a great job of setting up 6.

However a reboot is unessecery I can't say I like this new cast all that much compared to the original trio but the character building in 5 was certainly improved over 4.

[Trilithon]

Why don't they try coming up with an original idea to evolve the franchise, instead of copying an already well established game. Also, i thought this guy left the industry along time ago... Here's an idea, jazz jackrabbit reboot at a ratchet and clank level of quality...

[Games1st]

Not sure how that would work

[nibblo]

God of War went downhill after 2 and 3 and turned into a Dad of Bore tank simulator so thanks but no thanks Cliffy. Gears of war 4 and 5 were excellent games so more like that though they are going to be struggling with "that" character choice we all had to make for the next game.

[Gamingsince1981]

You got the game titles the wrong way around, it was gears that went down hill and kept getting worse scores and sales, gow was the Sony exclusive that sold millions and millions and got game of the year a few times....

[ravens52]

Someone has never played the game. You upset MS could never make a masterpiece such as God of War?

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

Some fans of the original games don't really like the emotional father-son story and rational Kratos. And that's fine; doesn't have anything to do with MS.

[ravens52]

That is fine. But a "Boring Dad Tank Walking Sim" is a flat out lie. This lie also happens to come abundantly from MS fanboys.

[jznrpg]

@cantthink
Of course some people won’t be happy. Nobody is ever happy with the next game changed or not.

[neomahi]

Wow. Is the disrespect that real? Cliffy B., they use ya and then they lose ya. You were of use for a time and now they don't care. Sucks, huh? I'll tell ya though, dude, go work at Sony Santa Monica. Tell em you want a job and they'll put you in a project. A veteran such as yourself, working under the same roof but heading a different project than Corey Barlog. Dude, go create a Gears of War for Sony, man. You want a reboot, take it to Sony. They're not gonna tell you NO. They're not gonna say you're a washed up hack. They'll put you right to work. You don't know what it's like to work for Sony, for PlayStation. You don't know what it's like to have the guding hand of Yoshida-san and Scott Rohde agreeing with you because he's a gamer and he knows. You're used to a bunch of corporate suits coming down on you from Microsoft. (Oh yes, Ive seen 'Gears of War - The Road to E3'), PlayStation isn't like that. Dude, swallow your pride and go work for Santa Monica Studios. They're not gonna turn you away

[mkis007]

A first person mode might be cool, as long as it is not forced.

[Soy]

It's neither necessary or unnecessary. If it was done well, it'd sell. No more, no less.

[jznrpg]

It won’t sell much on Xbox guaranteed.

[PassNextquestion]

Gears of war was great but maybe it's time to try something new and maybe come back to Gears of war a few games later, maybe next generation.

[RiseNShine]

Well I do, i miss the old gang Marcus, Cole, Baird, Dominic, there was a nice chemistry of companionship and fighting for each other, everything on GoW 5 goes around Kait, which is plain boring imho. I wish we got the old guard back again, but with MS on the wheel, it's not going to happen, MS and Ubisoft are the Disney of videogames, so not a chance.