@Silly gameAr - so not giving people options is the way to go? I mean if you are so against the aim controller couldn't you just use a dual shock instead? Maybe I am asking too much to have choices to suit different play styles.
Socom 4 allowed you to use the PS Move, it was trash and a waste of development time. They could do a VR firing range or something and I'm sure it would be alright, but if Socom is going to return then they need to stick to basics and provide what fans of the franchise liked. Pointless additions like aim controller and VR support will only bloat development costs and make a revival more risky.
SOCOM was easily the best franchise on PlayStation, it is sad what has happened to it. I do however have a bad taste in my mouth after SOCOM 4 coming out then PSN immediately hacked and offline for a month... Still to this day I do not trust Sony with my credit card information.
meh, would never hurt to give options. Move on PS3 was absolutely horrible because the camera sucked real bad. Fairpoint accuracy with the Aim Controller is picked up quite well.
Socom Confrontation was GREAT 6 months after the release of the game. Also, once they added the stupid Tilly that was when I quit. I tend to not complain about guns but the Tilly was a sniper rifle/shotgun. That gun was more broken than the IW-80 in Socom 2.
That is THE worst idea for a Socom type game. You can have the option of course, but no one will use it because a controller will take you down so easily.
Also, On VR I don't know how many 3rd person view games there are but I think that would be weird in VR having a guy right in front of you. If you make it 1st person you would be at an unfair advantage compared to the people who aren't.
One of my favourite games on the ps2. Socom 1/2 got a lot of playtime by me. This one, madden football and ssx3 were my first foray into online console gaming
Yes to this. It's time look how well battlegrounds is doing. 3rd person shooters are doing a comeback and it's the only game PS4 is missing to make my dream list complete since monster Hunter already is coming and we have crash and a few other classics coming back.
I do want to agree with you but they gave the fans a HUGE middle finger with Socom 4. All they had to do was listen to fans and we would of gotten a great Socom and they would probably still be in business. Then they made a Vita game with no PvP... It was like they were on a downward spiral. They also for MAG they cut the community in half (which was small in general) because of the DLC. That alone ruined it for a lot of people. It wasn't fun paying 20 bucks or whatever it was and not be able to get into a room because you needed 126 people to join. They gave their fans a HUGE middle finger and once again it could of been Sony as well.
It actually wasn't zippers fault. It was Sony's. After the shut down of the studio, an ex zipper dev went on a forum and spilled the beans on what happened. I wish I would've archived it.
Which I assumed, I do know that a lot of Zipper employees left Zipper before and that is just a sign. I think they just wanted to promote the Move with a franchise that's known. I am still not crazy about Zipper with the mess that was MAG (Which I loved but the DLC ruined the game) and of course Socom 3.
♦ ♦ ♦ "If you think SONY is going to listen to the SOCOM community who has already given SONY quite a bit of money, you are mistaken. SONY has moved on (Notice Zipper is gone). They no longer wish to compete with CoD, since CoD already helps sell PS3 units. Look at Hockey, 989 Sports used to make Hockey games, but they stopped, why? They could not touch the competition, so no longer wished to try" ♦ ♦ ♦
LOL This explains a lot. Now I know why any Sony competitive shooter post '09 have sucked (I already knew that Sony was responsible for KZ3 being worse than KZ2, but I didn't know it extended to ALL competitive shooters); Sony keeps insisting that the games be more like CoD. Obviously at the time CoD was at the top of the gaming world and couldn't do anything wrong among competitive shooter fans, so it's understandable why they wanted their studios to adopt some of the CoD elements.
But it's all about just having a nice alternative to what's already out there. KZ2 felt like a game that GG wanted to make. KZ3 on the other hand felt like a game that wanted a piece of the CoD pie. Seems like with SOCOM the Devs just weren't passionate about 4 because Sony wanted the game to appeal to a wider audience and include aspects that are inline with "current multiplayer trends."
All Sony has to do is just let the devs have their vision for the online multiplayer.
When they did that the games were good: KZ2, UC2, Resistance 2, MAG etc. When they didn't they took a major hit: KZ3, UC3, Resistance3, SOCOM4, etc.
You need a competent developer to handle it. Low ammo,coordinated strikes,ambushes and tense online matches comparable only to Rainbow Six 3 back in the day.
Would love to see socom come back. Who would develop it? Of sony studios only sony bend would make sense. They have a syphon filter and resistance retribution background. There obviously making days gone tho.
Man I miss the SOCRACK ps2 days... Socom never really hit it off after that, Confrontation was a step in the right direction but then 4 came out and basically put Socom out to pasture...
The designer of the first few Socoms is the guy doing FAR POINT of Impulse gear, Seth Luisi. He also helped with the AIM controller. He is working mostly with VR now. But yeah Socom is missed. They sure had a fan following for sure..
I went to the SOCOM 3 release party in San Fransico and it was bad ass..
They had soldiers repelling down sky scrapers and a humvee chase with shoot out (blanks) between the seals and terrorists, it was quite the fan fare show and an epic time.
But to do another Socom at this point with a super saturation of shooters, I just don't know if it would work out like it once did back on ps2.. It never lived up to it's name on the PS3.. They did try though, but it just didn't grab you or give you that SOCRACK feeling again or at least not for me.
Seth Luisi was the reason why Socom went downhill. Even in H-hour that one of the hostages was going to be a lookalike of him. He BS the whole community with his lies .Just seeing his name pisses me off.
This. Seth Luisi was a turd. That dude was a big factor in all the new directions to appeal to a wider audience.
Got a lot of hate for that dude.
Need a SOCOM 2 HD Remake. With voice commands and full online functions. They could borrow the proximity chat from Confrontation leave the rest as it was. Fix the glitch areas and we are good to go.
Did Syphon Filter even have PvP? I don't think it even did so you can't even compare the two. Also, Socom 1 and 2 SP were great, it reminded me of Goldeneye on the 64 SP.
They're made by a different developer so I'm not really sure why would be an either-or...
I mean both concepts are completely different so I'm not even sure why you think one would exist over the other as opposed to both lol
What on Earth is it with this website with these one-track Minds?
This seems to be the most popular concept on this website that always seems to narrow-mindedly assumed one must be made over the other in some of you guys literally never factored BOTH existing 😂😂😂 WTF?
Socom was my teen years in a nutshell when it comes to games. I honestly would be content with a socom 2 remaster. Just tweek a couple things but leave the movement, lean, and fps/ tps mechanic in. Do what they did for crash with Socom and I would be happy.
I remember socom and my mate laughing at me all time as I'd be issuing orders down the mic I got with it. The game could never bloody understand what I were saying, lmfao was soooooo funny I'd be shouting orders while insulting out of rage..
Now that's a memory..
Funny enough I don't have my ps2 anymore, but crazy thing is I kept the box you put on back and the network disc to connect online lol lol..
Aim Controller support too, heck just throw in VR while we are at it.
One of my favourite games on the ps2. Socom 1/2 got a lot of playtime by me. This one, madden football and ssx3 were my first foray into online console gaming
No sh!t. I was just looking up socom 4 videos last night lol
Without Zipper?
Yes to this. It's time look how well battlegrounds is doing. 3rd person shooters are doing a comeback and it's the only game PS4 is missing to make my dream list complete since monster Hunter already is coming and we have crash and a few other classics coming back.