Elite Dangerous PS4 Pro Support Detailed: No 4K, Supersampling or HDR at Launch

Frontier detailed the Elite Dangerous PS4 Pro support available at launch: two modes will be available, Performance and Quality, but no 4K, supersampling at 1080P or HDR support.

For the record, Elite Dangerous has been confirmed to get a 4K patch on Xbox One X when the console launches later this year.

[Aenea]

What the heck?

Did MS pay for this or something? This is unacceptable! 😀

No, I don't think they actually did, still it's weird as all heck. I think tho that it has something to do with the One X, they wait until they can make a patch for it, then do more with the Pro as well. The game that is releasing next week is something they've been working on for some time now already in order for it to release. Am sure a patch is coming later. If not that would be severely crappy behaviour of this dev.

[porkChop]

There is a difference in performance between the two systems though. Maybe they just couldn't get the game running in 4K on the Pro? It's entirely possible.

[Anzil]

This game is not that taxing and seeing it on the xbox one at the resolution its at...... This could easily be pushed 4k with checkerboarding. Its a loyalty game and i aint buying it hahha.

[Anzil]

Ive read the article and its really click bait the game isnt at 4k but just lower so probably 1800p or something and has no HDR support for any console just like BF1 has no hdr or other similar games. They just havent specified so take OG comment with a grain of salt. haha

[Aenea]

Then they still should support the highest resolution possible and not just keep the game at 1080p.

Currently it's not exactly clear what their current Pro support entails but it sounds like that it's 1080p with better visuals or higher frame rate as the two options.

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@Anzil

I hope it's indeed in a higher resolution than 1080p on the Pro, would be weird if it wasn't. Still, the wording didn't seem to reflect such a thing. Guess we'll have to wait until Tuesday...

[BrettAwesome]

The article mentions no supersampling, which is only relevant if the resolution is above 1080p

[frostypants]

Elite: Dangerous isn't that graphically impressive a game though. Space stations look cool but everything else is pretty plain, beyond some neat lighting when you get near stars.

[fr0sty]

HDR doesn't really cause much of a performance hit, however (which is why Xbox One S and PS4 standard both support it), so its omission from the pro version is suspect. Either they just needed more time to implement the upgrades or there's some money changing hands.

[Liqu1d]

@fr0sty I'm pretty sure the Xbox version doesn't support HDR either.

[Skull521]

Gonna be playing in 4K on my XBOX. Sony can keep their faux-K machine.

[segamaniaco]

But what about HDR?

[Ju]

I don't care if it is 4k or not, but this games cries for higher resolution. Not going beyond 1080p is a disappointment. Really makes me wonder what they were doing all that time. It's already a year late or something. Elite was my favorite game on the Amiga. I would burn through weekends with that game... okey, but they support a "Performance" and "Quality" mode on the Pro. Not 4k, though.

[R6ex]

ED will definitely benefit from higher res than 1080p coz the space battles occurs over great distances and all your enemy ships are at times just a tiny spec of dust far far away. Higher res will help you detect them visually as well as firing at them more accurately. PS4 Pro should've chosen higher resolution.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

It will get patched but at the end of the day it will still run better on the one x. It's entirely possible they can't get it to run in 4K hdr on pro and are still optimizing. One thing for certain is that you're going to have to get used to multiplatform games just running better on the one x and that's just simply because of a. If power discrepancy (why the one x costs more) And remember that this is just a logistics issue where as Sony literally paid to have the Xbox one x version of destiny 2 held back because of the PS4 pro's lack of power... so ya know. One of these situations is more acceptable than the other.

[butchertroll]

Quote :

And remember that this is just a logistics issue where as Sony literally paid to have the Xbox one x version of destiny 2 held back because of the PS4 pro's lack of power

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Are you so dumb? LOL! "Cough" Ass Creed Origins 4K Checkerboard on Xbonex and PS4! And guess what, MS has a marketing deal with Ass Creed Origins. But hey, Ubisoft says PARITY! Yep, MS paid Ubisoft for parity.
Your post will be flagged as SPAM cuz you spew bullshit, Xbone fan.

[beans]

I don't agree with him either but he is entitled to his opinion.

[Aenea]

Keeping it at 1080p on the Pro is severely silly as you should agree. Yes, the One X is more powerful, but it's crazy to think that the One X can run this at native 4k and the Pro can't go above 1080p!

And your Destiny 2 comment is ehmm, even crazier!

You have literally no evidence to support your claim that Sony paid Bungie to cripple Destiny 2 on the One X.

Besides that, basic math and simple logic would tell you that even the One X can not do what you and others seem to expect it to do with Destiny 2...

I've accepted that the One X is more powerful ever since it's reveal and that games can and probably will look better. How much so is to be seen and will be different for each games as well.

Now you should accept that the One X is not this powerful and magical device that can do things that are't possible...

The Destiny 2 engine supposedly uses the CPU for quite a lot of calculations. If you agree if that's correct or not or if you feel that other games/engines do more similar things is not relevant. If it does use the CPU so much than it stands to reason that the increased clockspeed is not going to make it do twice the amount of calculations, not even on a CPU with extensions that will NOT help with them.

That the same engine on PC's with much faster CPU's can do it doesn't mean the One X should be able to perform just as well, that's nonsense and irrelevant.

Basic math also tells us that the GPU needs to push 8 times the amount of pixels to go from 1080p@30fps to 2160p@60fps which should give you another reason why it might not be possible on the One X...

[Ju]

Well...in all honetsty, he did not say it runs 1080p. Since they support Quality and Performance in the Pro version there is definitively Pro support. Maybe it's just some sub 4k res but not full 4K or he doesn't know. We'll see. It definitively supports HOTAS. And motion controls. Still cool.

And yes, I agree, the XoX will always have the edge, of course. But I disagree with Sony paying off devs.

[Gazondaily]

A patch will come later I'm sure

[ninsigma]

What's the size of the dev?? Might have something to do with it.

[cartoonx1]

yup same way as sony paid activision to cap xbox x version of destiny 2. /s

[freshslicepizza]

Hmm, so you are not ok when a game is less impressive on weaker hardware but will defend actions like Destiny 2 being the same or better on the Pro as it may not even support native 4k on the Xbox One X? At least you all but confirmed it now which side of the fence you enjoy being on.

[Aenea]

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone I favour Sony over MS, am surprised you didn't see that earlier, perhaps because you're so busy attacking Sony and defending MS that you missed it!

It's still not confirmed yet how Destiny 2 will look on the One X, as you know Bungie can't talk about such things due to the marketing deal they have. If it turns out it will look less than the Pro version, then yes, I think people are right to be upset.

If Elite will stay 1080p on the Pro and be 4k on the One X then I also think people are right to be upset about it. Sure the Pro might not be able to do 4k on a game while the One X might, but that shouldn't be a reason to not try to get it to run on a resolution higher than 1080p...

Clearly you are okay with this which also shows to anyone who still didn't realise it what side you're on...

[freshslicepizza]

@Aenea
"Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone I favour Sony over MS, am surprised you didn't see that earlier, perhaps because you're so busy attacking Sony and defending MS that you missed it!"

Favoring one over the other is not the problem, your judge of reasoning is.

"It's still not confirmed yet how Destiny 2 will look on the One X, as you know Bungie can't talk about such things due to the marketing deal they have. If it turns out it will look less than the Pro version, then yes, I think people are right to be upset."

That marketing deal was a waste because we already seen it being played on the PC. Even the guys at Digital Foundry are puzzled about it.

"If Elite will stay 1080p on the Pro and be 4k on the One X then I also think people are right to be upset about it. Sure the Pro might not be able to do 4k on a game while the One X might, but that shouldn't be a reason to not try to get it to run on a resolution higher than 1080p... "

Oh, what a turn of events! Now you want them to maximize the hardware when you did no such thing on the Destiny 2 topics. Like I said, its ok to favor one company but not at the expense of being contradictory.

"Clearly you are okay with this which also shows to anyone who still didn't realise it what side you're on..."

The PC you mean? Well I don't really need to worry about such things unless of course consoles are really holding back that platform.

[xsta1ker]

the developers are very good the proless will get a 4k patch i have no doubts.

[Liqu1d]

They probably just want to get the game out first.

[Mbofa6om]

So did sony paid for all publishers to make the game works on xbo on 900p to look be better on ps4?!!
Its justv0.5 tflp between xbo and ps4
But its 2tflp between of xbox and ps4pro 😌
I'm sorry but resulotion war is for xbox ❤️

[NobleRed]

No supersampling lolz. Means the game looks exactly the same on a 1080p display. No matter if you play on ps4 or pro.

[freshslicepizza]

This will continue to be a problem for the Pro and not on the Xbox One X as one does it through software and the other is done on the hardware itself.

[Aenea]

Not correct tho since there's an option to go for better framerate or visuals on the Pro which the PS4 version will not have...

[KingKionic]

No surprise but easy for the beast.

[DeadSilence]

No buy then, keep digging your own grave devs.

[Guyfamily999]

If a game doesn't have proper pro support I don't buy it (new, at least). Bare bones support (even just a straight 1440p) isn't much to ask.

[Number_9]

At launch is what you should be looking at. Here. It'll get patched.

[PcRandy]

Maybe the pro can't do it at the higher resolution without the frame rate being affected so they are doing it at the most stable quality

[MegamanXXX]

This is the reason why I build a PC for situations like this lol

[agent4532]

Yup, that is why I abandon consoles

[frostypants]

@Woolly_, no walls? That depends on how much you spend.

[xsta1ker]

ya i build my own gaming riggs as well i also do a lot of video editing haven't built a new rigg in a couple yrs.
still pretty good though i7 4790k 2 gtx 680 sli configuration 1200w silencer mk lll power supply
corsair 950h tower fully water cooled. but i prefer gaming on console love xblive and pc just has to meny
hackers. and now with x1x everyone that likes power of pc gaming has an ok console alternative.

[xsta1ker]

weeblord
whats with the hostility are you one of the pc master race fools that needs to Chime in whenever
someone speaks truthful about online pc gaming plz give it a rest.

go to any mmo right now and let me now how many bots you run into.
better yet just google best bots for any mmo and checkout the never ending list.

and yes i moved my older 680 and silencer to my new build picked up new asus motherboard and cpu
the power to performance is just fine thanks for your concern though peasant.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Sony should have implemented supersampling at the system level.

[Aenea]

Good thing it's implemented at the system level then!

Shame that devs explicitly do things to bypass it.... a thing that CAN also happen on the One X....

[Matrix6]

Good luck to the game becoming huge on consoles

[DarthZoolu]

It's already big on Xbox, we play almost every day.

[frostypants]

Is it? My impression was the Xbox base was pretty tiny compared to PC.

[Vasto]

Xbox One X got another one.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

DJ KHALED!!!

[timotim]

It is become quite clear that there really is no reason to purchase a Pro over a standard PS4. Devs simply aren't able to do much more with it that justifies its price.

[Vasto]

/Agree

[MegamanXXX]

I think Sony should lower the price of the Pro then

[frostypants]

The One X still has nothing announced that looks as good as Horizon Zero Dawn on the Pro. Maybe it's one of Greenberg's mystery games that will be out in 3 years? Trust me, it's sure as hell not Elite: Dangerous.

Edit: Downvote without a counterpoint just validates my claim. I game on PC as well and the Pro version of HZD is the best looking game I've seen. Puts Witcher 3 to shame, even at ultra settings.

[timotim]

They already do...its called Forza Horizon 3 since you want to be a smart ass. It's a dense open world, has tons of physics calculations, realtime dynamic lighting, realtime dynamic weather, tons of content and will be running at 4k on X. What is HZD running at again on Pro?

But understand, I wasn't making a fanboy's comment. However, when you see most Pro games keeping the same frames and only a 1440p bump over 1080p of the standard PS4, no super sampling, same sound...you have to wonder whats the point from a console called "Pro"...

EDIT: And nice stealth edit of your original post...🤡

[yeahokwhatever]

FH3? Dude, you're hiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

[steveo123456]

No it comes nowhere near witcher 3 (on pc). But you keep telling yourself that to justify your existence.

I can think of quite a few games that blow hzd out of the water

Anthem to start with - comments??

[XabiDaChosenOne]

"It's a dense open world, has tons of physics calculations, realtime dynamic lighting, realtime dynamic weather"
LMAOOO is this real? Horizon does all that and than some. Plus your not confined to a car and can actually explore the world vertically and horizontally Aka MORE detail.
"However, when you see most Pro games keeping the same frames and only a 1440p bump over 1080p"
Just like the 1x with just a slightly higher bump than 1440p.

[yeahokwhatever]

As an owner of both, you're absolutely wrong. But hey, whatever :-)

[XabiDaChosenOne]

You don't own a pro so I expect this arm chair analyses from you.

[Razzer]

It could run at 8k. Doesn't matter. The controls are shit.

[DarthZoolu]

You can customize every single input and almost any combination. You don't know what you are talking about. They also have an flight sim controller.

[Razzer]

Dude....if I can't make a game playable within the 2 hour refund time limit on Steam then screw that. And I know I'm damn sure not the only one cuz I spent most of my time googling about controls and reading other people having the same problems. So don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, pal.

[frostypants]

It's not that the controls are shit so much as it's just a game that demands a good flightstick. I can't imagine playing it with a gamepad.

[Razzer]

Well...that very well may be the problem. I don't have a flight stick.

[DarthZoolu]

I and most others prefer controllers, not knowing the controls and bad controls are absolutely not the same thing you literally don't know what you're talking about. Yes it takes a long time to learn how to play the game completely because it's a very steep learning curve, that's why the game tells you to do all of the tutorials but I bet you didn't do that because that's too smart.

[agent4532]

Well, the PS4 Pro is utterly useless no worth buying.

[Aenea]

Oh wow, the amount of Xbox users gloating here in a PS4 article is crazy!

[beans]

This isn't just a ps4 pro article. It clearly says XOX is getting a 4k patch.

[2cents]

It's sad.
Especially when it's regular N4G members. I'm glad there are some of us not going ape, but this is going to be the norm for a while.

Hopefully peeps will get it outta their system soon and calm down.

[timotim]

This is rich coming from YOU, especially coming from a fan boy who goes into EVERY Xbox article because ( and I quote), "it's fans have too much hype"...

[Aenea]

Show me the post where I said that!

You can't...

[Liqu1d]

Stop lying, everyone knows only Xbox articles get trolled since N4G is so Sony biased. /s

[steveo123456]

How things have refreshingly changed. As a neutral I really do find it funny.

Exclusives=Excuses

[frostypants]

Just FYI, Elite: Dangerous barely even qualifies as a full game (I have it on PC). It's one of those games that has been constantly in development for years but still feels super shallow and early access-ish. It's also only psuedo-MMO, in that when you enter a system you get thrown into an instance with a pretty small player cap. The space station docking is kind of cool but the game is otherwise very meh. It has a faction system but it's a joke and feels tacked-on. Think No Man's Sky with barren Mass Effect 1-like planets, more ship controls, and some pretty stars. You'll start it up, go "wow", play it for a week, then realize that you're bored senseless. NMS actually held my attention way, way longer, and everyone knows the issues with that game.

[Vasto]

Devs have given up on the Pro.

I called it.

[xsta1ker]

can't give up something that never got started.

[MazeRunner]

as xbox one dev kits get more and more optimized developers will get this kind of results. hopefully MS is still messing with them kits, im talking to you mike ybarra lol

[raWfodog]

I only have the base PS4 so doesn't matter to me and the majority of other PS4 owners. I'm just happy it will have support for HOTAS. But the game was on XB first for over a year now so no surprise that they're giving the XB1X love first over the PS4P.

[ttbob]

Its a bit of a crap move from the developer if they are just giving minimum effort to the playstation version though i do think the developer is thinly spread over developing for the different consoles and pc aswell as doing updates to elite overall , i reckon the playstion will receive more performance updatrs just will take time, at this stage im just glad it supports the flight stick couldnt imagine trying to play this with a control pad

[jokerisalive]

Damn that's pretty pitiful.

[MrCrabPuss]

ZIIING!.......time to usher in the new already semi-obsolete PS5 for 2018

[steveo123456]

I'm sure the pro will get a patch in time

[jugo14]

definitely a no buy now. wtf?