Xbox announcements planned for Gamescom, "not E3 level"

Greenberg: "I always go to Gamescom. I care a lot about our fans and our partners in Europe so that's a big show for us. So we'll definitely be there. We are planning on making more announcements at Gamescom," Greenberg teased, adding that he "can't share too much..."

[-Foxtrot]

Well...I mean...being honest it's not like "E3 Level" was pretty high

[naruga]

hahaha .....i was going to say the exact same thing ...if they are going to be below 'E3 level', then what the f would show?....Candy Crsuh and angry birds for XoneX?

[thekhurg]

E3 was 36 or something indie games. Sounds like gamescom will be less then that.

[threefootwang]

Sony defence force, as usual, spewing trash in Xbox only articles.

Tell me, if you guys clearly aren't threatened by Xbox, why are you constantly in every Xbox article trolling?

[S2Killinit]

Their E3 didnt really show anything impressive except multiplatform games coming to other consoles. So does this mean gamescom will be even less?

[andrewsquall]

@naruga I think another showing of Crackdown 3 would be just as bad as Crandy Crush lol.

@threefootwang And yet then there is your type with that only excuse. Care to defend any of these claims??? What's next? "Herp, you all have games to play but are obviously not playing games because yous are on the internet talking about games instead, derp"?

[Mr Pumblechook]

Tempering expectations or preparing their loyal consumers for disappointment?

[Bennibop]

@wang It works that way for all Sony articles constantly with the likes of moldybread so why should a xbox article work any different!

[beans]

" I think another showing of Crackdown 3 would be just as bad as Crandy Crush lol. "

Not the best showing but Crackdown 3 is still my most anticipated game.

[fenome]

@threefootwang

Let's be real here, we're criticizing the company not you guys. You'd think after this long they would have actually listened to the main criticisms that people have been saying for years. They obviously hear the complaints seeing as how at E3 they were repeating the word "Exclusive" over and over trying to convince everybody they had a bunch, but it wasn't real.

I have nothing against how anybody plays their games, we're all gamers. Nobody should bash on people for how they choose to have fun. I just don't like how the company tries to convince people of things that aren't true and string them along. Actions speak louder than words.

Don't you guys want more games? Nobody seems to hold them to any standards, they've gotten billions of dollars to invest in videogames and they've squandered it all in investments that benefit the company instead of the fans.

C'mon, they spent billions on Minecraft and that pretty much left them high and dry on resources for other games. Is Minecraft really enough for their fans this late in the gen? They're just using their fans as an investment opportunity towards business decisions without properly catering toward their needs along the way.

That's just my personal take on the matter anyways. There's absolutely no reason they can't be giving Sony a run for their money right now other than their own decisions. They keep tripping over their own feet. They get away with it though, and people just keep throwing money at them anyways so they probably just don't care. Why should they?

[Why o why]

Fenome

Well said

[JackBNimble]

Andrewsquall
What are you doing other then not playing games yourself?

[morganfell]

"Sony defence force, as usual, spewing trash in Xbox only articles. "

Yeah that never happens in Sony articles, oh wait here's moldy, septic, etc etc etc....you.

Pot meet kettle.

[Death]

If Minecraft was for "their fans", then why would Microsoft releases on Playstation, Switch, iOS, etc? Minecraft is it's own product independent from Xbox.

[mcstorm]

I I'm loving the fan boy comments. People seem to forget Sony were shouting from the rooftop how good psvr was and how everyone should go out and spend £500+ on the device and extras to give us this mind blowing gaming experience eveyone will support. Now 12 months later how many exclusive psvr games do we have and were shown off at E3. Ooo and let's not forget the world most powerful handheld psv that's getting nothing but no games for it.

People talk on this site like it's only Microsoft who fk people over its not true Sony have done it plenty of times to.

Get over your selfs people go and buy the games and consoles you want and let others do the same. The ps4, Xbox one and switch are all great consoles all have must own games on them so go and get the ones you want and be happy. Stop with the my dad is bigger than your dad crap.

[fenome]

@Death

That's exactly my point. It wasn't for their fans, it was a business move. In 2013 Phil said they had over a billion dollars to spend on games for Xbox One and they used it all up for Minecraft, they don't give a shit about their fans, they just want their money.

This can be said about any of these companies really, they all want your money, but at least Sony and Nintendo try to earn it by giving their fans incentives (games). Microsoft don't even seem to be trying, or rather trying too hard in all the wrong places.

Every one of these companies have their flaws, but when they screw up or try to screw us we call them on it. Just look at how different Playstation is now to where it was at the beginning of the PS3 generation with the "get a second job" bullshit.

I want Microsoft to do better because it forces Sony to do better. This competition between the companies is what makes things better for us consumers.

Sony's E3 wasn't as great as it should have been, in my opinion, but that's because they don't have a strong competitor breathing down their neck right this second. They don't feel they have to try as hard, because honestly they don't. This, to me, is also unacceptable, I love it when the competition is fierce and these companies are fighting for their fans.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

In "glorious true (but not native) 4k"

[dcbronco]

Yeah, I'd have to say given Microsoft's and Sony's shows I'm not sure what E3 level means. If he means mediocre then Gamescom will be exactly like E3 this year.

[JasonKCK]

morganfell you named two.

Now, lets compare...

[SirBradders]

@threefootwang Sony defence force are in the xbox articles because MS are comical with there approach to gaming.

[pinkcrocodile75]

@nagura and @andrewsquall

Boys, the Sony presser didn't go down that well this year. That is why you're bashing xbox. That and you're probably prepubescent.

Let's see what happen eh?, you never know what's around the corner.

[XanderZane]

Wasn't pretty high for Sony either. Hopefully both will actually show something new and what gamers want. Both companies obviously held some things back for the other shows (Gamescom, TGS & PS/XBox Experience). So we'll see what happens in August.

Don't think we'll see there BIG exclusives until next year. They still need more studios.

[-Foxtrot]

No one said it was high...it was just higher then Microsoft

However unlike Microsoft Sony has PSX, their own conference which gives them a better reason if they held anything back. I mean last years Last of Us 2 announcement...MIND BLOWN

[LexHazard79]

@ Fox,

Ooooh Sony has PSX......

[meka2611]

Subjective on that one foxtrot, thought you weren't a sony fanboy?

[-Foxtrot]

How is saying one conference was better makes you a fanboy

Good grief....this place man. People want you to pick and side and if you don't you are forced into one based on what your saying about the current state and going ons of the industry

They were both bad...just Sony had the edge for me, especially watching the pre show and seeing GT Sport and Ni No Kuni 2 in action along with the Undertale collectors edition

[andrewsquall]

@-Foxtrot Don't forget the Uncharted The Lost Legacy expansion, in the same show too. ^_^ If PS4 consoles sold over Christmas over another console, I think we know why after that tremendous show.

[Sharky231]

sony showed all there surprises last year. This E3 they showed everything we're gonna play at the end of this year beginning of next. I feel like PSX is gonna have a few big announcements. They also have Paris games week, and Japan's conference! They have to have some kind of surprises at all of these.

[Death]

@Fox,

The fact you think Sony's is better than anyones makes you a fanboy. The only ones that even feel Sony's conference was relevant is Playstation fans. The same is true for Xbox and Switch. Each conference targets a specific fan base. Xbox fans think they win every year as well.

As for the Last of Us 2 announcement "blowing your mind" at last years PSX, game development is in the early stages and on hold while Naughty Dog works on the Uncharted DLC that has become a stand alone game. This is a game we all knew was coming and the announcement was very premature. Announcing a game in 2016 for a 2019 release seems kind of pointless. I'm glad you are excited, I'm just not sure why you are this excited this early over a game you should have known was coming anyway.

[BadElf]

Only showing that was worse than Sony was EA...and maybe Bethesda. Sony was poor

[dcbronco]

I love how Sony fans keep holding onto to additional conferences to make up for that mediocrity that was E3. Additional conferences are Sony's secret sauce.

[Prince_TFK]

Stop lying to yourself and to everyone Foxtrox. You are the biggest ps4 fanboy here and everyone know it.

On topic, can't wait for Gamecom.

[Ceaser9857361]

"XBox Experience" LOL! What?? When did that happen... :D

Death

Last of us 2 is NOT ON HOLD, a small team lead by Niel is very much working on the game and the full team from Lost legacy will join LOU2 once the said game is shipped...

"This is a game we all knew was coming and the announcement was very premature. Announcing a game in 2016 for a 2019 release seems kind of pointless"
Absolutely NOT... For you may be, with the reaction the game got everyone except you are very excited... See its working for Sony and that's why PS4 sells...You need to understand Sony has tone of exclusives and they can show it anytime becoz its Not like getting CANCELLED ;) is it?? :D

[Markusb33]

@Wang I guess the floods of xb comments for almost a year saying fake 4k was fair game ? At least the Sony fans don't defend the execs on the same level as Phil. That man could say xb live is going to double in price and it's good for gamers and everyone would blindly agree. You are allowed to disagree with the company you support you know. It doesn't make you a hater, just be real.

[Why o why]

Comes down to who believes who the most

Xbox fans on n4g accuse sony of announcing titles too early yet the facts contradicted that and the turnaround is actaully in sonys favour in relation to xbox. Despite that sony just release more games and have a better more efficient ethos.

Ms may have more announcements to make at gamescon...good luck but its a bit disingenuous to heckle the doubters after ms's track record which stretches back into last gen. . Bit of banter maybe but c'mon now, sony and ms are not on equal footing when it comes to 'the future' and their promises.

[Vandamme21]

Let me guest...Halo 6 and Halo 5 ODLC.

[thexmanone]

I hope so,

[DARK_WOLF]

That would be frickn awesome.

[Benoski]

Halo 6 has already been confirmed to NOT be at Gamescom or PAX.

If anything, if there's Halo news to come, it'll be the form of DLC for Halo 5.

[Condemnedman]

I'll take some of that thanks

[yeahright2]

I actually quite enjoyed Xbox's conference. apart from their shady "console launch exclusive" wording, I thought it was good. I liked the love shown to indies. And they seemed to be pushing to bring some PC games to xbox, not just put xbox games on PC.

[-Foxtrot]

And the way you worded your comment in a nice manner, I respect your opinion

[DARK_WOLF]

Why is it shady? They are a form of exclusive. Albeit timed or forever.

Sony do it waaaay more yet ppl only criticise xbox??? I dont get it.

Sony have a massive sticker that says exclusive on codww2 yet its multiplat.

And they do it all the time!

[butchertroll]

And E3 level was.....low. So, it can go lower than that. Odd

[TheGamingArt]

Yup

[JasonKCK]

So it will be more like Sony's E3 conference then :D

[mark_parch]

to everyone who says microsoft didn't show anything at e3 i say bollocks. motorsport 7 is shaping up to be the best racing game this year, everyone who has played sea of thieves loves it including myself, state of decay is a very unique game that fans of the first game are looking forward to especially now it has 4 player co-op, ori and the will of the wisp was a lot of peoples game of e3, and then some great indie games like cuphead and the last night. i just hope they have some news on below at gamescom

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Let's see because E3 for Xbox was..a letdown when it came in terms of announcements.

[thexmanone]

Thanks for your opinion.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Welcome bro 😃

[Death]

Microsoft's E3 is a let down every year for Playstation fans. Xbox fans were happy to see the Xbox One X reveal and games coming out on both Xbox One S and X. Sony replayed E3 2016 and somehow their fans still thought that was better than new hardware and games.

[Lazarus69]

People are entitled to there opinion if some people think Sony's was better than Microsoft's then it was better just as others who think the reverse. I personally thought Sony's was better because they showed more games that--> I<-- was interested in.

[Chevalier]

@Death

" Announcing a game in 2016 for a 2019 release seems kind of pointless. I'm glad you are excited, I'm just not sure why you are this excited this early over a game you should have known was coming anyway."

How do you know it will be a 2019 release? Lol. Naughty Dog has 2 teams so its still possible for 2018. As for being excited when has the year it releases have anything to do with it? Does Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves, Cuphead and a host of Xbox exclusives not come to mind when we talk about long release window from announcements? Man way to fanboy it up as usual Death!

[BG11579]

That's the problem right there. This is how you see things : "Xbox fans were happy to see the Xbox One X reveal and games coming out on both Xbox One S and X".
Now this is how a non fan sees things : "... games coming out on both Xbox One S, X and PC".

There lies the difference on perspective.
My perspective, every conference was bland, but there were some pearls amidst those conferences.

[TKCMuzzer]

Death, why are you not critical of MS investment in 1st Party software? Yes I have a PlayStation but I would be critical if Sony were not making games for the PS4. I don't understand, you and certain others are all over defending BC, think Sony are shit for no cross play, yet when it comes to the most important thing about owning a console, you show no passion about MS lack of support for its hardware. You all say your gamers but seem to be least bothered about getting any from you beloved MS. Are you all in denial? Or is the fact you are all hanging on hoping and believing at some point going forward MS will announce some?
Either way,its not been good enough and it would be nice if you guys came out and admitted it and gave MS some grief about it, you, their fans are the only ones who can change the situation.

[Death]

@TK,

I'm not critical of Microsoft's first party production because the impact of Sony's first party output is greatly exaggerated. I've been a PlayStation owner and fan since 1994 before the system even launched, I have a PlayStation collection that would put most "fans" collection to shame, That doesn't mean I buy every exclusive that comes out. There are many that don't interest me. That is the beauty of PlayStation though, they offer a lot of games because they have a more diverse fanbase that is worldwide. Microsoft has a much narrower fanbase to target and they do it well. I own and play about the same amount of exclusives on each system. so my perspective is based on my own personal experience. My most anticipated games coming are GT, Spider-Man, Forza 7 and oddly enough Cuphead. I love the vintage art and feel of the game. I'm considering upgrading to a Pro for GT and Spider-Man alone.

[81BX]

I found Sonys presser to be a let down. I really liked ms, but to me Nintendo was the worse.

[JaguarEvolved]

Lol. Microsoft's e3 was terrible so I guess it'll be worse than terrible. I still cant understand how microsoft would talk pure crap about pro and day it has fake 4k because it uses checkerboard technique but it'll be used on a lot of Xbox one x games as well. They also didn't have any games for the xbox one x that looked better than driveclub, uncharted 4, or the order 1886. I was of the opinion that Microsoft shouldn't have released a new console but used money and resources to make exclusive games and open gaming studios. Also they should have just done a Xbox 360 and release a new generation console in 2018 where they could have a lot more powerful console and show new exclusive games . I already see fanboys saying to wait until next e3 when I've been waiting all gen for microsoft to release amazing games.

[attilayavuzer]

Okay you done?

[beans]

Yeah they definitely have a lot to say which gets annoying because nobody asked for there bs opinion in the 1st place lol!

[81BX]

Sure buddy

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I am taking this to mean... don't expect a 90+ min conference again. I am thinking they go back to something closer to 60 min.

[XanderZane]

It will probably be 60 mins. I just hope they don't just show a bunch of Indies. They need to show some AAA games and a few more exclusives.

[beans]

I just don't get it. Sure they need to show AAA games at some point soon but if they're not ready to be shown they're just not ready to be shown. Am i the only person who loved there E3 and thought that indies shown were incredible looking. There will be enough games to hold me over for awhile until announcements!

[XanderZane]

@beans
Hhhmmm.. no. Their E3 wasn't great. Last year was actually better. They really didn't show any new IP's that gamers were looking forward to. Most of the exclusives were timed. Sure some of the Indie games looked very good, but you don't want to impress a crowd with new hardware and have Indie games running on it. Having Anthem and Metro: Exodus was great, but neither are exclusives. Everyone knew about Forza 7 and knew it would look and run great. They needed a lot more surprises.

[81BX]

They showed me enough to support the xb1x. I don't mind some indie games but with cod, assassin's creed and cup head, halo 5, gears 4, crackdown 3, I'll have more than enough to play. I've also got back into uncharted 4 mp. Amazing mp and support for that game

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

And instead of 15 timed exclusive indies, there el be only 9

[Eldyraen]

Hopefully they actually show Crackdown gameplay and not just a snippet reel this time. It isn't the most exciting game in the world but i'd like to see the gang boss billboard/dynamic fights in action as they're the most new things about it from what we've seen so far.

Maybe show some of the old games on the X (Gears 4 especially). Hopefully FCC accept it for preorders by then for sure (and maybe have an official Xbox mini-Direct video type thing with gameplay of some x games to accompany the announcement of "available to preorder today").

Maybe something else new too as the headline is a bit deceiving as he seemed interested in other stuff there. So it may not be a huge conference but maybe something new to go in it.

[DaDrunkenJester]

I believe they already announced Crackdown 3 will be at Gamescom so that is good.

[Eldyraen]

That's good, I always remember Gamescom but don't follow the lead up to it as much.

[Shadowlee]

I knew theyd be at gamescom cause there was at least 2 expected annoucments themat didnt happen at e3. Hopefully 343i annoucement is halo 5 story dlc or a new title and not halo war 2 related

[MegamanXXX]

XBOX fanboys vs Sony fanboys this is what N4G stands for now. Where's my Popcorn at. I'm starting to figure out how this site works lmao.

[ElementX]

Welcome to N4G :P I've been here a decade, it hasn't changed.

[2cents]

Groundhog day. Every day.

[akaFullMetal]

Ive been here a decade too, not much has changed regarding fanboys fighting each other. But compared to 2007 -2010 the insults and name calling today are tamed in comparison.

[Vasto]

Should be another awesome show.

All Eyes On Xbox

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

For anyone interested in indies....

[Vasto]

If games like Black Desert, Forza 7, Player Unknown Battlegrounds and State Of Decay 2 are indles then bring me more.

All Eyes On Xbox
#True4KNov7

[PFFT]

Now Indies are a bad thing?? You guys didnt seem to care when the PS4 had nothing but indies.

[Chevalier]

" Now Indies are a bad thing?? You guys didnt seem to care when the PS4 had nothing but indies."

The Xbox crowd calling Indiestation comes to mind. Now that Xbox lacks exclusive AAA games, indie games are suddenly cool again to the crowd that made fun of it. Ironic no?

[beans]

Indie games were never a bragging point to Xbox fans or myself at least. I read past comments repeatedly sayinh this but also read there were really good indies as well. XBOX 360 had XNA which was ignored and still is yet Sony fans used indie titles to help up there exclusives this gen and still do. Now MS starts showing indies again and they're bad again lol. Really i don't understand the back and forth here. Also i don't understand why so many Sony fans are here again in Xbox news. I also wonder why Xbox fans hardly ever invade sony topics. Does it bother you guys that gamers like myself don't invade Sony news? Just strange how you guys keep coming into MS topics trying to downplay everything when in reality you're helping MS change and become the best console experience ever. Just confusing.

[Chevalier]

@Beans

" Also i don't understand why so many Sony fans are here again in Xbox news. I also wonder why Xbox fans hardly ever invade sony topics. Does it bother you guys that gamers like myself don't invade Sony news?"

I work in a game store and own all the systems. My Xbox One has not been on since Gears 4. Indie games aren't going to sell Xbox X systems. As for Xbox becoming a better system?! In terms of features I agree, however in the MOST important manner that counts? Nope. Sorry the BEST reason to buy a GAME system is the GAMES. Sorry Xbox does NOT compare to PS4 where it matters most. The games. FACT. It would be nice to have a reason to use my Xbox again soon.

[beans]

@chevalier

Without a doubt games are needed and i truly agree with you. My comment was about indie games and how all of a sudden they are once again not important. If MS would clearly state what they're planning, this wouldn't even be an issue. Surely there is a reason for the silence but something tells me games are coming and MS is listening. In the meantime i personally feel excited about the Xbox x. Plenty of huge games to keep me excited for now but yes i want exclusives too even if there shared on all MS platforms.

[B1uBurneR]

They cried Xbox is weak. MS crrated a 4K beast. They said Xbox has no exclusives. MS showed 22 "exclusives" along with another 20+ games coming. In addition to gamepass. They said none seem good enough, show us more. MS said we have more announcements coming. Now they are saying it's not good that it's not on the same level of E3.

WTF. When is it ok for MS to get a break.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Cause the "beast" can't do native 4k on all games as promised! And because 15 of those 22 exclusives are only timed exclusive indies! And cause the only new announcements on true exclusive were a couple of indies.

[B1uBurneR]

Show me the proof that MS said all games will be 4K res?

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

So you missed the whole "true 4k" MS campaign for the last 12 months?

Now, if course, they are redefining what "true 4k" means and, funny enough, it's not TRUE native 4k!

[EmperorDalek]

They said developers could do whatever they like with its power. That doesn't just mean 4K, it also means upgrades to lighting, textures etc.
It would be a massive handicap to developers if they were all told "Your game MUST be 4K."

The CoD4 Remastered standalone is going to be timed exclusive on PS4. For me, it's going to be a rather long wait it to release on Xbox One (As I'll need X1 version to play with friends.) So to me, timed exclusives aren't exactly worthless. That's 15 games that'll require a lot of waiting for PS4 fans.

Is that worthless? Maybe to you, there will be people on PS4 who will dislike that wait time. Some of them may even get an X1 to play them immediately. Not a significant amount, but it's something to consider.
I know I'm considering getting two copies of CoD4 Remastered (One on PS4, one on X1), so I can play it a bit earlier.

[Whatever234]

Wow microsoft fans wow.Love truly is blind.

[Berenwulf]

So no timed exclusives?

[Miss_Weeboo]

Better or worse?

[TheColbertinator]

Perhaps a conference.

[Prem8tuaProcrastin8a]

It baffles me how in every Xbox article, you see the same people with the same, tired, old opinions about how "xbawx haz no gamez" and "same old m$" or similar drivel, when the people spouting these "wise" words don't like Xbox, never will, and will never buy any Xbox no matter what. We get it, you prefer your precious PlayStation, good for you, but why you feel the need to ram that down xbox fans throats in every Xbox article comment section is beyond me.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

So, what 2017 x1 exclusives have you been playing? When you try to answer you'll not be baffled anymore!

[BeOpenMinded]

I could list several games PC/xbox that I play because I don't have a decent gaming PC. But of course I expect a reply 'but they are not exclusive' to continue the weak narrative on most people's part. The only thing baffling is why do some people care so much about people wanting to play on console and not PC.

[georgenancy]

lol

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Lol their E3 announcements weren't E3 level either!

[2cents]

New announcements are always welcome.

[Matology]

Show show OG Xbox stuff.

[EyeAmTJ]

Too many Sony stans on xbox articles rinse & repeating comments LOL

[subtenko]

We'll see how they do compared to sony's gamescom and PSX. But this time with xbox at gamescom, tell me what is actually an XBOX only exclusive.

[King_Lothric]

Prepare for
"3 days Xbox exclusive"
"box art Xbox exclusive"
" 1 day early Xbox exclusive"
"US launch 1 week Xbox exclusive"

If MS could be as passionate to make games as they are bragging and deceiving, they would be kings of the console market.

[DialgaMarine]

So while MS is lowering the bar, from an already fairly low status, with their future conferences this year, while Sony is clearly trying to do more. MS honestly believes slapping 4K and XBO X Enhanced on indies and multiplats is really gonna sell...

[King_Lothric]

Xbox E3 announcements were disappointing so I guess for gamescon the expectations are even lower.

[subtenko]

what about the cool "XBOX EXCLUSIVE" voice? That means epicness right?

[Brohan]

Bring on the games :D

[pyroxxx]

E3 level was =0,.. so I am expecting something good,..

[Elda]

So no AAA original interesting XBO exclusives...smh.

[AmUnRa]

O come on Greenberg, almost every thing that comes out of your mouth is just hurting the Xbox. The E3 showed what Microsoft is, a joke.
A lot of Indies, and than the terms "launch console excl" (read time excl. and also coming to the PS4) and other crap hurts the Xbox.
No excl NEW AAA games, hurts the Xbox.
So during GamesCon they have almost nothing new, cous when they had new first party iP's they would have showed them on E3, not on GamesCon.
Greenberg and Spining Spencer are in my eyes just talking heads.

[Petebloodyonion]

Question: Name 1 major title that was revealed at Gamescon (Sony, MS or Nintendo)?

So I don't know why ppl always having high hope for that event.

[DeathtoOtakuDJ]

Memory is probably off, but I believe WILD and GT Sport were revealed at Gamescon.

[Petebloodyonion]

Don't know about WILD (heck don't know about the game too) but GTsport revealed at PSX event.