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What Destiny 2 Can Learn From Overwatch

Destiny 2 is just a few short months away, and it’s looking to deliver on the promises Bungie struggled to keep the first time around. While they’ve regained a lot of faith from its community through a series of strong expansions, Bungie still has a lot of challenges to overcome if it wants Destiny 2 to be everybody’s go-to shooter. And where better to look for inspiration than from everybody’s current go-to shooter: Overwatch.

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joab7772923d ago

It's not a gonna replace Overwatch for PvP. That's for sure! I love D2, but many of the choices conceening mp are questionable.

BiglyBoyGeorge2923d ago

No way it's going to replace Overwatch, but it should at least give its own players more reason to play PvP.

joab7772922d ago

I agree. PvE players are getting a much better experience than vanilla Destiny. It's evolved a ton. But mp is very strange. I will give them the benefit of the doubt, and I know they said they chose their server architecture for Destiny specifically, but imho, it seems that they don't separate mp from sp, and thus, have made choices that favor PvE.

It seems that 4v4 was chosen to help deal with P2P connectivity problems, as is every other choice that slows the gameplay down. I love 4v4 so it's fine. But how would PvP be with dedicated servers, 60 fps (PvP only), and a mode for friends like 6v6? Include leaderboards and private/custom matches, and balance it separately. Take the lead from other mmo's and completely separate them. This isn't asking a lot, as they have been standard with PvP games for a decade. It's ironic too, as Bungie is the company that did much of this work originally with Halo.

I know PvE sells, and PvP is for the more hardcore core base, who will play regardless, bit they also keep the game going when content is short.

iEchoic2923d ago

It's definitely not going to replace Overwatch, but I think that the formulas are kind of similar. Destiny and Overwatch are both squad/team based and are trying to hit the same formulas for cooperating, queueing, matchmaking, etc.

OW is gamifying the matchmaking mechanics really well, and it makes it fun for hardcores and for casual fans. Destiny 2 has the opportunity to do the same, with a smaller focus on mp. They'll succeed if they're able to gamify the matchmaking stuff in the same way.

Blu3_Berry2923d ago

Make all the DLC free. That's part of why Overwatch is so great, especially for only $40 opposed to most $60 multiplayer only games.

Aenea2923d ago

Then they will have to add some microtransactions nonsense to it, more so than they have now. People need to be paid too for their work you know...

Summons752923d ago

As long as the MT are cosmetic only and can be obtained through normal gameplay then who cares. I'd much rather have that which I am not forced to buy than a $40 season pass that blocks me from content, a lot of which was held from the actual game. It's tough though because you are right devs need money for their work so DLC can't be free unless you compromise something else and have MT which 99.99% of the time is done very poorly and hurt the game. Overwatch did it right by having it cosmetic stuff only and for the most part easily obtained through normal gameplay.

Kupa2923d ago

DLC for Overwatch and Destiny mean very different things. Blizzard can afford to release cosmetics and an occasional map for free, because unlocking those cosmetics (usually as seasonal events) encourages people to spend money on Loot Boxes. That stuff is also substantially cheaper to make than Destiny's expansions.

If you're referring to Destiny's cosmetic stuff, I agree. I think it should copy Overwatch in that regard, and have ways of unlocking it via Loot Boxes that can be purchased or earned.

GhostlyJunior2923d ago

Do you mean like emotes or what? Are you saying they should add stuff like Taken King for free?

VigoMiAmigo2923d ago

Haha, I thought this guy was joking about the 14 currencies, but there totally is. It's even on the Destiny page!

iEchoic2923d ago

Haha wow, I didn't even see this before. Wtf

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer4h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30004h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer4h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger3h ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30002h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

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Tacoboto4h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing694h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif2h ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing692h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif1h ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot3h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast3h ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts3h ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto2h ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos9m ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

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dveio3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted1h ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast3h ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay2h ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted58m ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

Killer2020UK1h ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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Nintendo Switch 2 review. Is it enough of an upgrade?

Two weeks in, Nintendo Switch 2 feels faster, smoother, and sturdier. But is it enough of an upgrade?

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anast3h ago

It doesn't matter. Nintendo plays by different rules. They are still reskinning games from the 80s.

Goodguy0143m ago(Edited 41m ago)

Not at the moment for most. Good investment for huge Nintendo fans though. You can also expect much more greed from nintendo this gen as well as their confidence really grew from switch 1.
I mean dear God, botw at $70 and totk at $80 fow switch 2 editions. Old games lmao.