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Sledgehammer Defends Censoring Nazi Flag. We Call BS

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Now, a quick qualifier: If you live in a country like Deutschland (Germany) or some Buddhist countries, possibly Australia as well. You know that certain Nazi memorabilia and or imagery is banned, illegal, or punishable by Court of Law. In these countries, Sledgehammer gets a pass as COD has had a long history of changing their game to fit in with “Da Rulez”.

So let’s start off with the big point straight from the article it question. Call of Duty WW2 will feature Nazi flags in its campaign to preserve accuracy, as well as be placed in a “tasteful manner”… in so far as the Nazi flag can be considered “tasteful”. Personally, I think the Nazi Swastika looks like a Fidget spinner, but I digress. In Multiplayer, however, the flags will be censored to:

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ravinash2874d ago

It is silly as we know they are Nazis.
Plus the Swastika is an ancient religious symbol, it wasn't created by the Nazis.

XbladeTeddy2874d ago

Not all were. It was forced on German Soldiers. The SS were the true Nazi's. Wish a developer would have the balls to show the average German soldier perspective.

ravinash2874d ago

I was referring to the game.
Actually from my understanding, no one from the SS or the German army at the time refereed to them selves as Nazi.
It's actually the english term for National Socialist German Workers' Party.

XbladeTeddy2874d ago (Edited 2874d ago )

@ ravinash: They didn't need to they were members of the Nazi party making them Nazi. They enforced the rules.

yeahright22874d ago (Edited 2874d ago )

@ravin And gay was primarily used to refer to someone as happy. That might be where the symbol originated, but that's not what it means now.

wannabe gamer2874d ago

yea cause those soldiers sure didnt have any balls to die for something other than hate

Gaming1012874d ago

Developers are really dumb on this issue... they don't like the Nazi symbol because it represents hatred, oppression, violence and the Holocaust. Meanwhile, the game itself is visually depicting images that the player participates in of said hatred, oppression, violence and the Holocaust, shooting and killing people, but that imagery is fine? The symbol for that imagery is what they have a problem with? You're literally shooting people in a game, that actual imagery is less offensive than the symbol that represents it?
Wake up, people. -_-

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trooper_2874d ago

I believe Japan and China used it in their respective religions.

Segata2874d ago (Edited 2874d ago )

They still do but the German one is inverted.

Sunny_D2874d ago

It's actually a symbol of Hinduism which originates in India.

Swiftfox2874d ago (Edited 2874d ago )

The ancient symbol's name you're referring to is the "Heart of Buddha". However it isn't about where the symbol came from or what it was originally used for but what sort of power in the public mind it has today. If you walked down the street and showed the symbol to people, they would say "It's a swastika the symbol of Nazi Germany." Heck, when we say Hitler do we think about a struggling artist in Austria? Or do we think the Nazi war machine, WWII, and the vile, inhuman acts which occurred in his name?

After 80 years this symbol still has the same power Hilter and the world gave it. This symbol rallies people even today and sparks the same uncomfortable dread it has since WWII. If this game were a work of historical record, with any sort of historical significance, I'd argue for them to keep it in. However, this game is a non-historical game for purely entertainment purposes. The power this symbol still holds over the public at large needs to be respected by the game makers. This includes the manly laws which ban the symbol outright from any sort of medium in Europe.

Glemt2874d ago

Very, very well set and argued.

Allsystemgamer2874d ago

People need to stop giving the symbol power by not fearing it anymore.

That's why it has power still. People are just "oh so afraid" to see it.

We see the hammer and sickle everywhere. Stalin murdered far more people than Hitler ever did yet we don't see people cowering in fear over it.

To argue for the banning of the symbol gives it power. It doesn't take it away.

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Relientk772874d ago

I'm sick of censorship in video games.

They don't censor Nazi symbols and flags in Wolfenstein The New Order, Old Blood, and New Colossus.

Fishy Fingers2874d ago

COD is more of a cultural icon and I can see them being more aware of potential/social controversy than a Wolfenstein game might.

While this isn't me defending them and I personally would rather they didn't censor it I also don't see it effecting the gameplay experience for me or making it any more or less fun. But yeah, seems a bit hypocritical when only a few years ago I was gunning down civilians in a airport.

EatCrow2874d ago

What is so controversial about Nazism??
It wasnt good. All in agreement i hope.

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moegooner882874d ago

Yes they do in German speaking countries.

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ShadowWolf7122874d ago

They will in the German versions.

Which is why they were censored IN THE MP OF THIS GAME as opposed to the CAMPAIGN. The CAMPAIGN can be censored locally. The MP is worldwide.

ginganinja2874d ago

I think you could print out your comment, tape it to a brick and then smack some of the commenters around the head with it and still it wouldn't click for some of them.

specialguest2874d ago

Seriously wtf is wrong with this generation??? I've played many ww2 games with swastikas in it, because that was the Nazis symbol during ww2. No one ever got offended. This generation is f**king p**sified with its ultra politically correct easily offended ways.

LiamKreptic2873d ago

Hey look a person with brain cells! This generation will either pass super quickly or we are all F**ked. This is just washing history and Germany is at the center of that s**tshow.

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New Honkai Game Announced and It Might Look Familiar to Pokemon Fans

HoYoverse has announced the development of a new Honkai game, which looks to feature Pokémon-like creature battles.

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Former Santa Monica Studio Writer Shares Insight On The Game Industry: “It’s Not Great”

Former Santa Monica Studio writer Alanah Pearce has shared some insight on the game industry, and it's not great.

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Goodguy014d ago

AAA has gone downhill as they focus on huge profits. Indie and other smaller games however have been amazing not chasing trends and the next big thing.

Redemption-643d ago

In all honesty, a significant majority of indies and smaller games fail. At best a you might hear about 10-20 indies that get attention or do well, but 100s more fail. AAA games can still be the bread and butter of the industry, but greedy executives would kill a good game if it doesn't make them a lot of money

Cacabunga2d ago

I don’t game much anymore as i used to. Last big game i played was Stellar Blade. Almost didn’t touch the console since.
I don’t have much backlog for the first time in a long time. Maybe others enjoy what’s coming, but I’m losing feeling a little

Ethereal3d ago

Nail on the head. AAA has lost the magic and focused on profits and "player engagement". Gaming is an art form, and like always the CEO fat cats roll in to capitalize at the cost of innovation, passion, wild experimentation. We need a major realignment in the industry and it starts with gamers voting with their wallets.

Killer2020UK3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I think that's already happening, we're seeing commercial successes in studios like Larion and whoever made Kingdom Come for example. Double Fine is another good example. Studios who are filled with and run by people who give a fuck that aren't hamstrung by money men. That's the answer and consumers are favouring it more than the soulless AAAs that have been put out. I don't doubt there is talent at Ubisoft for example but when they're told exactly what the end product needs to be by people who don't know what consumers actually want, it's always going to result in the same rehashed but slightly shinier slop.

Ethereal3d ago

Exactly. I do believe we are starting to see a shift in consumer habits. The market is saturated with GaaS and battlepasses, seasons, etc. We can't all play the same four games until the end of time. Fatigue is setting in and the industry needs to get back to making new experiences rather than chasing the latest "money maker".

Killer2020UK3d ago

I was wondering whether this is perception or actually happening but it feels to me, as a semi old gamer, there is more choice than ever and as such people are now much choosier about how they spend their time and money gaming. Certainly noticing this when it comes to GaaS as you mentioned, the question always has to be why would I play this instead of what I'm already playing. Anthem is going to have a real hard time prying away people, especially with a premium price tag that screams money men as a decision.

Palitera3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Nah. Devs need to pay the bills. Uninspired games fail, but artsy games usually fail even harder.

PapaBop2d ago

Gamers are voting with their wallets, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Expedition 33, games made by passionate developers who are not being controlled by money men are seeing their work get universal praise and selling extremely well. Meanwhile Outlaws and Veilguard are underperforming. I wonder how many people Ubi and EA had working on those games, in comparison Sandbox have just a core development team of 30 and managed to put something out EA and Ubi can only dream of.

The underlying problem though lays with how EA and Ubi execs react to these sort of things. Seems like they'd rather just lay off good developers and focus their efforts on their cash cows as opposed to change their development philosophies.

anast3d ago

She didn't even call out Stanfield's PNG file planets when she flew through one. She just 'yelled' something stupid like 'flat earth'. She wasn't even taken aback in the slightest. I am not sure she isn't a part of the problem.

Aloymetal3d ago

She's always been a narcissist bimbo, I'm even more surprised she's not in only fans yet.

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@Aloy ha!

@Lanx I'm sure you see where you are not making any sense.

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SimpleDad2d ago

You know what...?... for once I totally agree with you. Gaming bimbo true.

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Cellblock113d ago

"Former", wow she didn't last at SM Studios very long at all.

isarai3d ago

4yrs is pretty good not sure what ur talking about

Cellblock113d ago

I wasn't sure of the actual number of years just seemed like it wasn't that long ago when I heard that she got a job as a writer there, guess time flies. 4 years being "pretty good" or not is subjective depending on ones perspective. The question might be, was four years long enough to make a discernible writing contribution to a video game based on how long development cycles are these days?

gleepot2d ago

Maybe for some industries. In gaming that's barely enough time to ship a single game.

QuantumMechanic3d ago

She left SMS because she needed to go back to Australia to support a parent with cancer.

Chard2d ago

Chuds hate her because she doesn't do the anti-woke brainrot thing

Petebloodyonion3d ago

She quit SM studio to focus on her own stuff, There was a video where she explained all of it.

SpacedDuck3d ago

Okay, explain like the other 50 jobs she's had and hasn't held......

I think she likes to bend the truth a ton on how involved she is and when her lies catch up with her she moves on to start a new batch.

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Rainbowcookie3d ago

Greed , lack of innovation and agendas

Why do we rave about a good indie game but we avoid a AAA game.

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"Seeing Nintendo do this is a little disheartening" - Switch 2 & the state of game preservation

The worry is that at some point down the line, Nintendo's Switch 2 eShop will close – just as the Wii U and 3DS eShops did – and these Game-Key Cards will be dependent on Nintendo's servers supporting downloads of existing titles long into the future.

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Neonridr4d ago

"Seeing Nintendo do this is a little disheartening".

Let's ignore the fact that this is 3rd party devs who are opting to do this to save on manufacturing costs. Is Nintendo supposed to just tell them No?

hombreacabado3d ago

nintendo will also publish games that are on key cards. nintendo should tell them no because what is the point of purchasing a physical game and having it be a digital download. that entire debacle should be outlawed and banned.

rob-GP2d ago

"Nintendo should tell them no..." - who do you think came up with the Key Card concept and decided to only release these tiny carts and much more expensive 64GB carts?

Neonridr15h ago

which Nintendo published games are on key cards only? I haven't seen one yet. Every instance of a game key card are 3rd party games.

ZycoFox3d ago

The key cards are kinda garbage. The only plus is that you can resell them.

I think anyone buying a Switch 2 should only buy the full game cards and ignore the key cards. If you have a PC or PS5/Xbox you'd probably buy the third party titles for one of those anyway since they will look and run better, except for the ones lighter on the hardware of course.

Neonridr15h ago

someone might be willing to compromise a little to be able to take it with them on the go.