Microsoft Was E3 2017's Biggest Loser

Microsoft needs to stop saying and start doing for the sake of the Xbox brand.

[chrisx]

Well Sony and Nintendo had much better presentations, so i agree

[darthv72]

Ubisoft and Nintendo is more like it.

[S2Killinit]

Sony definitly had a better showing than the smoke and mirror show at MS this year.

[naruga]

MS shows was nt bad in relation to what they showed , was bad in relation to the place they have now in sales and the appealing of Xone,. Xone fans were thirsty for games and their saliva for exclusives was drowning the the forums and sites .....if Sony and MS were changing places (MS 1st with its Xone and Sony 2nd with its PS4) ..Sony would have a rampage stampede of titles and the foor would be lava from hot exclusive titles in order to get the pole position again

[RpgSama]

You have to be SO detached from what gamers really want when you are the only console maker to show a new and highly awaited console and still be last for the show, these guys stopped caring long ago, they know they have theirs fans so they will just preach to the choir, zero extra effort

[Omnislashver36]

naruga, seriously? Most of those exclusives are indie games, not AAA

And even so Sony has more non-AAA games.

If they were in opposite positions I'd be jumping ship to Xbox. But they're not, so glad I jumped ship to PS4.

And I'd recommend that to anyone playing on 360/XB1 now that wants to upgrade- don't buy a XB1X, buy a PS4(Pro).

[naruga]

@Omnislash ...oh man .....*facepalm* we say the same thing ! ..i m bored to explain ....

[modelgod]

Lol!!

[yeahright2]

@rpgsama, is it them though? (by them I'm assuming you mean Spencer and co. at xbox) I'm thinking it's more MS big wigs that don't see the profits they're used to coming from xbox so they want to shape xbox into a division that focuses on what has been proven to highest possible profit margin.
I mean making new games is risky, so depends on 3rd party
NA and UK buy out console the most, focus on them.
Halo/Forza/Gears sell well, keep pumping them out.
So I don't think Spencer and his team are as much to blame as people think.
*sigh* I just miss the xbox of 10-15 years ago. KOTOR, jade empire, Shenmue 2, alan wake, lost odyssey... I want to love xbox again, but MS just keeps pushing me away.

[AmUnRa]

O no, darthv72 you as an Xboxfanboy you are deflecting and just cant exept that the PS conference was better than the Microsoft conference.
Everybody looks right trough you....

[darthv72]

Sorry RA... i personally rank the shows like this. Nintendo, Ubisoft, Microsoft, Sony with EA last.

Sony was better at showing more of the same while MS was better at new stuff but Ubi and Nintendo outdid both.

Seems you cant handle difference of opinion. Everybody looks right through you too.

[Skull521]

Besides the reveal of the XBOX and Anthem E3 was pretty underwhelming all around

[JackBNimble]

I think it's obvious Phil Spencer is not a gamer and that's exactly the reason that he is way out of touch with what gamers actually want.
His arrogance in believing a powerful console would solve MS problems only fucked MS for the rest of this gen.
It's to late for new exclusive deals for games this gen, they will have to be for the next gen.

Just to bad MS fucked over all you loyal xbox fanboys. Hey... maybe MS will deliver next gen.

[badz149]

$500 and not true 4K doomed MS this E3. so many post-conference backpedaling, clarifications, excuses and justifications needed to be made

[Skull521]

@JackBNimble

"His arrogance in believing a powerful console would solve MS problems"

That isn't what happened. Xbox fans asked for a powerful console, and he delivered. Good on Microsoft.

[JackBNimble]

Skull
Show me anything before the rumors of Scorpio that anyone was asking for a new more powerful console. Especially a more powerful current gen console.

If Phil was a gamer and had gamers interest in mind, then he never would have canceled any new games.

[Dragonscale]

MS still came last regardless.

[bluefox755]

None of them were that great IMO, Sony certainly didn't do as well as last year, so MS had a huge opportunity to come out swinging...but they didn't. Sony didn't really offer any surprises, but they brought great looking games, with real gameplay footage instead of sizzle reels. Whereas with MS, it seemed like they were trying to be deceptive, using clever wording to pass off games as "exclusive" when they really aren't. By far the biggest reaction they got from the crowd was for the ability to play 15 year old games. I would have thought they would have wanted an upcoming game to steal the show.

[RpgSama]

And the crazy thing is that I think Sony held back, Microsoft made the mistake of changing their conference to the day before, allowing Sony to have enough time to strategize, you know Sony didn't show everything when it's show was barely more than 60 minutes, they saved games for TGS, Paris Games Week and PSX.

[goldwyncq]

Microsoft's was way better this time though.

[RpgSama]

In the words of Tenacious D:

"Yeah, that was awesome, compared to bullshit"

[ForeverTheGoat]

Lol "much better"? Nintendo sure but Sony's was just as bad honestly. Really everyone who presented at E3(except ubi and Nintendo) were the biggest losers this year.

[XanderZane]

Correct. Fanboys won't agree with you, but neutral unbiased gamers agree 100%.

[ForeverTheGoat]

@XanderZane
It's crazy how much fanboys on this site worship these companies.

[Ricegum]

I don't agree. And I'm not a fanboy.

You opinionated people are worse than the fanboys.

[Bobafret]

If MS had the show to end all shows you would still agree.

[XanderZane]

Ubisoft and Nintendo had better conferences. Sony's conference was about the same as Microsoft. Pretty lackluster and not much content. Microsoft actually showed more games then Sony did and had a longer conference. Ubisoft was E3 in the end with Nintendo in 2nd. Both EA and Bethesda were the clear losers at E3 2017. Not sure what shows keengamer.com were watching. They are complete clueless if they think MS' conference was worse then EA or Bethesda's.

@Haurus
M$ did not slaughter Sony. Both conference were bad. Sony's seemed to be more boring from watching the huge crowd of fanboys who weren't clapping at anything they saw on the screen. Microsoft's conference lacked true exclusives and showed some timed exclusive Indies. The Xbox One X hardware was still the most talked about at the E3. Sony lost in that regard, but they probably still had more gamers at their booth playing their games. That's were M$ failed.

[RommyReigns]

EXCLUSIIIIIVE! Oh wait, MS left out the key part of most of them being TIMED exclusives :D Typical subliminal messaging led by flip flop Phil.

[LexHazard79]

According to you and the fanboys here yeah. But certain surveys had Xbox ahead of Sony for E3.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Yeah just like certain surveys had Sony ahead so whats your point

[DiRtY]

Games announced by Sony: 2.
A remaster and a multiplat.

[FallenAngel1984]

The only thing the Xbox brand is good for me is Rare Replay

[Aenea]

These 'journalists' need to make up their mind!

As I've said before, no one can actually 'win E3', it's all subjective.

[2cents]

Journalists? lol.

Edit: I am agreeing with you as I know what you meant by 'journalists'. Just agreeing.

[SegaGamer]

I hate the whole winning thing, like you say, it's all subjective.

In my opinion, every conference was pretty dull because none of them had anything i really loved.

I think E3 has been pretty average for all companies this year, it's not surprising after though, this is the first average E3 we have had for a while now. I expect next year to be better.

[yeahright2]

I don't mind it. If that's what everyone wants to debate after the conferences it makes them bring their A game to the conferences. I guess I agree with you on the premise of it being subjective, it's maybe even a bit immature, but man I love the results of it, getting those big "HOLY COW!" announcements are worth it to me.

[WilliamSheridan]

Not THESE JOURNALISTS... This is from the Sony side

[Relientk77]

When you don't have exclusives, you lose. No incentive to buy. Simple as that.

[ThePope]

Strange yet people STILL are buying....hmm

[Discobastrd]

Fools are easily parted with their money I guess

[Crazywhitie]

@Discobastrd As a guy who more likely Paid $499 or $599 for a PS3 at Launch

[ape007]

You mean the WINNER.

[King_Lothric]

Exactly. The winner at being the loser.

[Sunny_D]

😂

[MellauxGMNG]

I dont get how people think ms had the worst e3. I think they showed the most new games AND a new console, with good presentation (people coming out to explain the game/talk about it a little). Majority of Sonys games that they showed were all shown last year, one of which was dlc for an already released game. And their presentation of their games seemed really bland to me, literally just a reel of game trailers. I never saw much of the other conferences so I cant really comment on them, but c'mon youd have to be blind to think ms had the worst of the big 3.

[Nyxus]

Because the games Sony showed looked amazing.

[ForeverTheGoat]

Ehh the only amazing one was god of war.

[Phill-Spencer]

Sony showed alot of their own awesome games. Ms show mainly consisted of advertising games you can also play on ps4.

[buttcheeks]

Microsoft's conference was mad bloated they should have cut it down by at least 15 minutes they showed way too much of assassin creed,sea of thieves and shadow of war. They tried to sell you a car mid conference and showed way too many indies for a e3 show oh and the 1x is cool but they talked about it too much with irrelevant information like what cooling it uses

[brew]

Sony did great , and their AAA true exclusives looked hot!

- Uncharted The Lost Legacy
- Days Gone
- God of War
- Detroit Become Human
- Spider-man
- Gran Turismo Sport
- Knack II
- Everybody's Golf
- Matterfall
- Patapon Remastered

- Shadow of the Colossus
- Horizon Zero Dawn The Frozen Wilds - (DLC for one of the best games this year)
- The Inpatient - (Until Dawn devs)
- Bravo Team - (Until Dawn devs)
- 5 Playlink games - That's You, Hidden Agenda, Frantics , Singstar Celebration , Knowledge is Power
- Loco Roco 2 Remastered

And when you figure just how many games Microsoft showed that was coming to PS4 day and date or later , combined with all of PS4's 3rd party support that seems unlikely to make it to Xbone like Yakuza Kiwami , Ni No Kuni II , Yakuza 6 , etc ... it really puts things into perspective on the the 3rd party side of things.

[Discobastrd]

And Microsoft s actual exclusives:

Forza 7
State of Decay 2
Sea of Thieves
Super Lucky’s Tale
Cuphead
Crackdown 3
Ori and the Will of the Whisps

Oh dear

That is NOT going to make me drop 500 on a new machine unfortunately

Off that list off play these:

Sea of Thieves
Cuphead
Ori and the Will of the Whisps

But none of them are so amazing that im excited for them

[notachance]

MS's was the most yawn inducing presentation in recent years

[yeahright2]

In disagree. I think they did good, it's just that they needed to do great. The big losers for me were EA and Bethesda. Bethesda primarily because of going for paid mods. I mean gtfo with that rubbish. EA, well, they did about as well as they normally do and that's just lackluster compared to everyone else.

[XanderZane]

Sony's was just as bad. Only 2 games excited their crowd. No one even seemed to care about the PSVR games.
Watch the PSVR presentation. Then watch the crowd's reaction after the PSVR stuff was shown. lol!!

https://youtu.be/aR32IpMA-W...

[ThePope]

You cant win here man, The people above will say it was weak because not all the game are not 100% exclusive the Xbox. But even if they were 100% exclusive, never before seen, blockbusters, the comments would be, "not my style". They are disappointed they dont have the most powerful console, and the fact they cant play sales.

[HotMoltenLava]

Dude, don' t try to reason with these people on here. Thier minds are made up and they hate Microsoft so they already came in here with an agenda. It's sad but true.

[Discobastrd]

I wonderer if we effectively are playing sales? Money earnt by Sony on games and hardware goes back in to the production of more I guess.
I'm gutted the new xbox didn't blow me away. I truly wanted one. Now I'll end this gen without one for the first time potentially and that's a real shame. They're a mess.
I'd also say that power does not equate a quality experience either. I've played my 3Ds way more than my Vita and recently my Switch way more than my PS4. Quality games don't really need to rely on pure horse power

[Phill-Spencer]

@disco
Yep same here

I wanted to get an xbox later down the road because i counted on it will get better by time. But it only got worse and worse so i think i won't get an x1 at all reading what spencer vision for the brand looks like. Maybe next time then. It's sad because og xbox blew me away at the time, 360 was quite worth owning once rrod was solved. But with x1 there is literally nothing that makes me want to buy the console

[Discobastrd]

You're right about Sony. It was subdued and they were kind of blasé about everything. I'm not sure about MS though I'm afraid. It's a shame as I wanted them to blow me away this year. A hardware reveal must absolutely do that and they dropped the ball. I'm still left with no XB this gen.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Because these same people went into E3 assuming Sony would destroy MS...but it didn't happen, so now the defensive front is on so strong they are making up reasons to justify their fanboyism. So essentially..."reasons&qu ot;

[XanderZane]

Well, they didn't win, but they weren't the worse show either. Same goes with Sony. They didn't win either.

[Erik7357]

Idk EA conference was pretty lack luster but Microsoft at least had entertaining 3rd party reveals so it made it kinda worthwhile to watch

[corroios]

Microsoft plAyers were dreaming for triple a games and Will keep dreaming.

The beast isnt Able to run all games at 4k ANd comes at november for 499.

Nintndo ANd sony gave gamers exclusive games. Its real easy to understand.

But Microsoft gamers will have the games they want, but just need to wait 2 or 3 years for those exclusives.

[ThePope]

I love how you edited such a weak comment haha

[Discobastrd]

And by then there will be a PS5 to throw in the mix. With exclusives. Ready for launch.

Well that's nice now isn't it :)

[King_Lothric]

"MS is in no position to be boastful."

And yet that is exactly what they love even more than making games. The Xbox community fiercely critized checkerboarding technique on PS4 Pro as being "fake 4k" and now they are the joke once again as they are getting the same checkerboarding on Xox.

[ThePope]

I think they criticized the super annyoing PS fanboys that think everything Sony does is the best thing ever. I have a feeling they could come out with a bread box and PS fans would be like EPIC!!!!! the checkerboard was just the weapon.

[Why o why]

It's always someone else's fault isn't it. . Sometimes you just have to take responsibility for stupidity and hypocrisy instead of deflecting and blaming others.

Us Sony guys are guilty of it too but have had way less reasons to be hypocritical. We haven't downplayed exclusives or sales or Indies since gen start but some of us have now acted like performance isn't such a big deal when it has been used as a beating stick all gen thus far. You are allowed to admit the facilities of your comrades. . They won't kick you out of the club bro. . .

[OC_MurphysLaw]

To each their own. I found Ubisoft to be the overall best press event with the main 3: Nintendo, MS & Sony in a more less virtual tie for second place. EA would be in third with Bethesda just edging them out for the worst press event.

[StormLegend]

Any company that shows tons of 3rd party games at a gaming conference instead of upcoming exclusives is a looser IMO. Anyone can shows off games that they didn't make, try making those games and impress us.

[HotMoltenLava]

So by your logic Sony lost the 2013,2014 and the 2015 E3. Remember the beginning of this generation it was Sony who had less AAA exclusives, but yet and still everyone claimed they won these E3's. The Xbox One even though considered less powerful launched with more exclusives. But I forgot exclusives did not matter then it was power. Keep moving those goal post to suit your argument while all you on here continue to lose credibility with the rest of the real gaming community.

[Doabarrelroll]

Lol too bad Sony actually did show excluisves all those E3s. The xbox never had more exclusives, its funny you talk about goal post moving when thats exactly what you xbox guys are doing with the whole power argument but youll just ignore that dont you

[audiocafe]

I'd give MS a W for their conference. They had a conference anyone can watch no matter if they game on PC or PS4 only because 98% of all the games they had you will be able to play on PC and PS4. I think that's great for all gamers. For example a PS4 only gamer could have watched their conference and been excited about the world premieres of games they will be able to play on their console, either on the same day as the Xbox release or at some point down the road.

Oh... oh, but if you're talking about if their conference succeeded in giving an incentive for people to buy an Xbox One or an Xbox One X, then no. In my opinion they crashed and burned on that front. I didn't see anyone reason on that stage to go out and buy an Xbox in particular especially if you already have a PS4 or PC.

[ThePope]

Yet it still sells. Odd.

[audiocafe]

Odd. I didn't say it doesn't still sell.

[Discobastrd]

Agreed. And it's a shame. All they had was this:
Forza7
SODecay2
Sea of Thieves
Super Lucky’s Tale
Cuphead
Crackdown 3
Ori and the Will of the Whisps

That's not enough for me to drop 500 on new hardware

[Bathyj]

That's harsh. I would say Xbox had the most to gain and the most to prove, and delivered the least. No need to bring the L work into it.

[Discobastrd]

Well put

[pingthing]

Haters gunna hate! I have no idea who won, lost or drew. I only watched the MS conference, because that is the one relevant to me....I have no inclination to look over my neighbours fence when my garden is just lovely.

[Omnislashver36]

XB1X is not your garden yet. You can always upgrade to PS4(Pro) instead.

[Discobastrd]

Nicely said 👌

[PistolsAtDawn]

NOPE!!! Nearly every social media site disagrees with you...and so does Amazon. If you only hung out here on N4G you might believe that, but not in the real world. MS had a FANTASTIC show and gave me PLENTY of reasons to play on their console....Nintendo gave me a few and Sony actually managed to kill hype that I previously had for games without adding any more hype (something I've NEVER EVER experienced from an E3). I can't help but notice how people saying "this was the worst E3 ever" also happen to be PS-Only fans...Xbox and Nintendo gamers are excited.

OBVIOUSLY all multi-plat games I'll play on X1X...MS managed to maintain all their already established advantages of PS (like controller, UI, Network) and added power advantage. Thus turning the idea of a trade-off in choosing where to play your multi-plats into an easy choice. Now I DO NOT think that X1X will sell millions of consoles out of the gate, but as 4k TVs become cheaper and maybe after the first X1X price drop, it will start selling like crazy. Bottom line, as a multi-console/PC gamer...there are TONS of games that I want to play on my X1X, EASILY over 25...where as the next game I'm even remotely interested in using PS for is either God of War/Days Gone (although not as excited as I used to be)...and who knows when those will come out specifically. In Fact, it seems as if 95% or so of the games that MS showcased will be out BEFORE the the FIRST Sony heavy-hitter will release at all. I'm still moderately excited about Days Gone and GoW...but now they are at the point where if I miss them I won't lose any sleep. It also has come to a point where most Sony exclusives are extremely Niche games...good games...but don't appeal to most gamers. If you have a console base of over 60 million and in most cases struggle to sell your games to 2% of them, you're investing in niche markets primarily. Horizon was pretty much the only exclusive this year that appealed more to general gamers than a niche crowd. By far, the most played games are the multiplat ones. I think we are seeing first hand why Sony-Only gamers tend to compare ALL KNOWN Sony exclusives against just Xbox games within the next year.....again it looks like 95% of what MS showed will be out before next E3, but it's uncertain if the next Sony heavy-hitter will be out by E3 or not.

TLDR; For me, Nintendo and MS managed to show things I am massively excited about...MS proved that it will be where I play all multiplats (which are by far the biggest chunk of games)...Sony actually managed to kill hype I had in games previously without replacing it with something else.

[SpaceRanger]

"MS managed to maintain all their already established advantages of PS (like controller, UI, Network) and added power advantage."

Controller? People agree that symetry is the natural and most comfortable way to play.
UI? You mean MS' clunky mess that they constantly change?
Network? What did they even show about the network??

"In Fact, it seems as if 95% or so of the games that MS showcased will be out BEFORE the the FIRST Sony heavy-hitter will release at all."

Well most of MS' games were either third party or indies. And I know Xbox fans are STILL waiting for something till sea of Thieves or Crackdown comes out. But I love how you completely ignore that Sony has been releasing and continues to release games all year 😃

"It also has come to a point where most Sony exclusives are extremely Niche games...good games...but don't appeal to most gamers"

So diversity isn't good then? You'd rather have all your games be shooters (from the same recycled franchises) or the yearly milked racer?

In my opinion, MS not only put the last nail in their coffin with the price of the X, but also had nothing substantial to offer to their fanbase other than titles that were known to be releasing since 2014! And that's because people are STILL holding on to those titles. For all we know, MS might just cancel them. Considering data shows that they're more likely too.

Most importantly...people are still waiting for Xbox's #1 anticipated game. And MS continues to be mum on it. People went as far as to buy the $500 version of the One at launch to get it...how many years has it been since they announced it??

[PistolsAtDawn]

You wrote all that and only managed to prove you have no idea what you are talking about and are only seeing what you wanted to see. You purposely didn't address what I ACTUALLY said in an attempt to refute it....easier when you can refute something you made up that I said.

[Anzil]

@PistolsAtDawn You are blind. He addressed way more than you did with your response and considering your OG argument. I'm a PC gamer and can tell you the Xbox division has no idea what they are doing. No one will ever beat the 360 controllers, I mean the ones has terrible bumpers, thubstick dead zones. The DS4 is vastly superior. The UI is terribly cluttered and confusing. Xbox live is no better than psn other than dedicated servers for thier exclusives. Sony has way more heavy hitters still releasing this year than Xbox.
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Ni No Kuni 2: Revenant Kingdom
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
YS 8
Matterfall
Hidden Agenda
Yakuza Kiwami
Patapon Remastered
GT Sport
Knack 2
Nex Machina
Everybody’s Golf
Final Fantasy 12 Remastered: The Zodiac Age
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
Lawbreakers
Undertale
Gundam Versus

Vs

Crackdown 3
Super Lucky Tale
Forza 7
(Every single one is on PC but still here cause a couple of sonys are too). Ya none of sonys games sell well(Don't appeal to most gamers....Horizon, TLoU, Uncharted 4, Nioh, Neir all sold amazing numbers for Sony). He addressed you absolutely but you did not. You can't be this dumb. It's impossible.

[SpaceRanger]

I don't know what I'm talking about? And what the heck is this...

"You purposely didn't address what I ACTUALLY said in an attempt to refute it....easier when you can refute something you made up that I said."

I literally added your quotes and responded to each of them. Not my fault you repeated yourself several times in your original comment. Not enough content to bring up I suppose?

[PistolsAtDawn]

No, you added the quotes, then responded to what you WANTED me to say. I.e. How does me saying "The maintained their advantages like controller UI and Network" mean that your argument should be "They didn't even talk about network" (esp right after you argued against the other two points that ALSO were not talked about)....you simply couldn't deny what I said, so you made up the argument you WANTED to argue.

I didn't ignore what Sony was releasing...I addressed it head on and said they were primarily niche games...and I never said anything about diversity of games...IN FACT MS had a much more diverse showing of games and I consider that a strength. Days Gone, God of War and Uncharted Lost legacy are all pretty much Uncharted clones with different skins (one very directly). I have never had any problem with Indies...esp ones to the quality of Ashen, Cuphead, Last night, and Tacoma...those are all highly anticipated games for me. There is nothing wrong with diverse games at all...and I never said there was, but that is what you argued...which seemed utterly stupid being as MS had a MUCH MUCH MUCH more diverse show that Sony. ...then you immediately jumped to how MS only showed shooters ....which A). Shooters aren't a bad thing, but more importantly B). NO THEY DIDN'T....either you clearly didn't watch the show at all, or you prepared these comments before the show even happened.

You're clearly just taking a fanboy stance on this and arguing what you WANT to argue...whether it's true or not (it's not). I can't take your opinion seriously at all.

Bottom line, you can't refute that MS has put themselves in a VERY seriously position to be THE UNDISPUTED best place to play multiplats...and they have a large array of excellent games coming in a short amount of time...MOST which will arrive before the nest PS heavy hitter even arrives....true only 22 had some sort of exclusive deal out of the 42 they showcased...but realistically, to any open-minded gamer that can afford an X1X...all multiplats might as well be X1X exclusives whether or not MS paid for the rights. If you go down the list of attributes that are important to gaming...the check is always in MS's column now, there is no split at all.

[PistolsAtDawn]

So at the end of the day...this is how it breaks down for me (just off the top of my head. Games that I am EXTREMELY excited to play (will be played on X1X unless listed otherwise):
-Ashen
-Tacoma
-Crackdown 3
-State of Decay 2
-Sea of Thieves
-Black Desert
-Battlegrounds
-Cuphead
-Shadow of War
-AC Origins
-Anthem
-Destiny 2
-Ori
-Ace Combat 7
-Last Night
-COD WWII
-Dishonored (expansion deal, can't remember the name)
-Mario Oddessy (Switch)
-Metroid Prime 4 (Switch...who knows when it'll release though)
-The Hunt (right now on PC, but if the do an X1X version, I'll do that instead)
-Monster Hunter
-RDR2 (whenever that releases).
-Metro
-Strange Brigade
-Battlefront II
....I know there's more but I'm honestly drawing a blank, and I purposely left off other games I know I will want to play, but weren't at E3.

(Honorable mentions, I will also be excited about playing FH3, Titanfall 2 and Gears of War 4 with their 4k updates).

Games I am moderately excited to play:
Days Gone (PS4)
God of War (PS4)
Spiderman (PS4)
...now if I ONLY had a PS4, these would all be "must haves" no doubt, but that isn't the case. As it stands, with the massive list of other games I HAVE TO PLAY...these have all become, "If I miss them, I won't lose any sleep"....which is making me wonder if it's even worth it to own a PS4 anymore. Right now it seems like the only thing making me hold on is nostalgia since I have had a PS since day one when the first one released. This is why I say MS and Nintendo have given me reasons to be excited about my consoles (yes, Switch only has the two games I am extremely excited about, but it has the handheld component that sets it apart). Sony really hasn't given me any reason to hold on. I love uncharted, but I can only play it with different skins so many times before it gets old. Uncharted Zombies and Uncharted God mode are skipable games for me.

[SpaceRanger]

"Uncharted Zombies and Uncharted God mode are skipable games for me."

And that's how I know you're just a troll with a hollow opinion.

[PistolsAtDawn]

...says the guy that flat out argued against things I didn't say in order to refute my opinion. That shows motivation, you were LOOKING for a reason to tell me my OPINION was "wrong". Calling those games Uncharted Zombies and Uncharted God mode isn't a dig at the games themselves...it's pointing out that they are all the same kind of game. Those games can be very good, but too much of them gets annoying. Horizon was a breath of fresh air. You JUST made fun of "shooters" in what seems to be an attempt to say that too many shooters is a bad thing...why is it wrong to say it about this style game? At least with shooters you can get the value out of them by playing for hundreds of hours....these single player games are good for about 20 hours at the most, then you are done (yeah I know some have MP components, but they are never good).

[SpaceRanger]

"...says the guy that flat out argued against things I didn't say in order to refute my opinion."

Making your "opinion" based on false pretenses, to push a personal agenda, is trolling by definition.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Most of their exclusives were indie titles... No thanks. As an owner of all 3 platforms, Microsoft is in a bad position. Their only major exclusive I care about it Crackdown 3. Everything else I did not care for or the game was multiplatform... Don't get me wrong, I love my Xbox, but if I were someone who owned only a PS4 or has not upgraded yet, the XB1 would be a tough sell

[Tsar4ever01]

I don't agree. Even though they tried to use some word-play with the term "Launch Exclusive" for most of their games, I did approve of it's overall showing. Games, Games, Games. That and the unveiling of the XBO-X itself. In those respects, to me they succeeded to deliver. I rate MS and Sony almost at tie, due to afterwards Sony admitting it held back on it's game listings.

[Artemidorus]

Couldn't help but feel it were like a dodgy salesman giving any answer to get the sale.

[vikingland1]

The gamers won E3 ;)

[rlow1]

Lol, the crap keeps rolling through.

[Discobastrd]

The presentation was a boring and embarrassing mess. My excitement for the new hardware was killed by a complete lack of quality software exclusives that make use of the capabilities. I'm still left with a gap in the gens consoles. I just can't validate spending that kind of money on better resolution alone and back compat. I've my 360 for the old games. This was their chance to blow minds and they failed bad. Such a shame. Our way better for the industry to have much closer competition. For now my PS4 will be competing with my Switch for my spare time and not an XboneX as well

[Mbofa6om]

All articles tolds me that there are many fanboys wesites, and their missions only to attack microsoft and drumming for sony

[Aenea]

Sigh, these article writers can't seem to make their mind up, can they?

[Platformgamer]

I disagree: nintendo was the worst;
in crescent order: nintendo, ubisoft, EA, bethesda, microsoft, sony ;) imho
PC gaming? oh i forgot about it...

[Aaroncls7]

Bullshit, they did pretty good.

[Vasto]

Yep, they sure were.

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[Armyntt]

Our gaming entertainment while mainstream now. I can't help but scream nerds in my head when you guys fight over who won something that wasn't even a competition but essentially a commercial for a company. Then you go right into salez arguments and only make it worse. I've enjoyed gaming for over 30 years and if you get joy from something another company may be doing wrong and hurting gamers you're worse than the company doing it.

[yeahright2]

Depends on how you look at it. I look at it two different ways, first being what they need to do for me to get on board the xbox brand and secondly how good their presentation was more objectively than personally.
To get me onboard with xbox, F. but they really didn't have a chance since all their games are on PC and I have a PC that's a tad bit better than scorpio (mainly due to CPU it seems).
But being objective about it, I'd say they did a solid B to B-. It was a good conference. The price, again being objective, is good. Personally I think it needed to be at most $450, ideally $400 to stay competitive, but oh well). I absolutely loved the time spent on the indies and they seemed to be opening up the variety quite a bit. it wasn't just shooter after shooter with a racing game thrown in. All in all it was one of my favorite MS conferences. Actually taking into account the cancellations of scalebound and such from their "mic-drop" E3, I'd say this actually is my favorite MS conference in recent memory.

[Destiny1080]

xbox gamers where talking about how there's going to be ten new exclusives and that's the reason why the last two years had next to nothing, I was thinking about 3 or 4 for sure, because I cant even remember the last time they announced a new game, well we where all wrong, they had nothing absolutely nothing and to make there show even worse they tried to confuse people with the word Exclusive

apparently phil had a reason for having no games, he was concentrating on hardware for the last four years, instead of letting the engineers do there job phil took it upon himself to do all the work

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Indeed they were, no new AAA game, only timed exclusive indies, no justification for a 499 system. The abslute lack of exclusives all this year was for nothing.

[Da12RespectA]

Stupid

[dmonee]

Too much flappin'n and not enough happen'n !!!!!

[Yohshida]

According to gamers and Data, they totally owned E3 this year.

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

Unlike Sony, Nintendo and Ubisoft, MS was a borefest. Nothing to me screamed buy an Xbox One X.
Edit: BTW, the crowd roared when they announced BC of OG Xbox titles more than the games they showed off! as they were happy about playing old games than new ones. Really did not understand that!

[WilliamSheridan]

Troll article is an obvious troll...

[galmi]

Both Sony and MS were crap. Deal with it. Now go play more games.

[covcha]

I agreed

[Kojjikaneshiro]

This article is more like personal opinion.All companies had ok showings at E3.I wouldn't call MS the biggest looser though.

[classic19]

Bwhahaha this guy in the article said xbox fanbums haha. Ima have to use this from time to time

[TheOttomatic91]

Wait what? MS was my second fav presser your really gonna tell me Bethesdaland (*shudders*), EA Sports and dancing cheerleaders were somehow better?

[DAEMONIFEAR]

Lol no!

[Dragonscale]

Tbh honest its totally subjective. Every fanboy will say their teams show was best regardless.