Sony Has a Frightening Amount of E3 2017 Booth Space

Over 40,000 square feet of floor space

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http://i.imgur.com/fRXBm1B....

Floor space totals

Sony - 43500+ sq ft
Nintendo - 32400+ sq ft
Microsoft - 17412 sq ft
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[Gazondaily]

Damn Sony- smashing it out on all fronts. Nice

[freshslicepizza]

I wonder if that means they are adding room scale to PSVR?

[Why o why]

Lol. . Can't catch a break

[Overload]

Metrics are now meaningless. Lol.

[KickSpinFilter]

Moldy not sure why your getting down votes I'm sure that's why they have more room also spaces setup for PSVR units. That's major floor space

[Sitdown]

BecauseImBatman
You must be new here. It's talked about every year, because people like to speculate what it means. Just like we also discuss the length of the shows, and the day it will be on.

[Kingthrash360]

The extra floor space is for VR huh....wait... doesn't the scorpio have VR as well??
So no VR being shown for scorpio either??
Lol they have like 4x the space of MS who is revealing a new console....lol what MS gunna show on the floor? Scorpio a like 4 games?
When Nintendo has more space than you it's a problem seeing according to most "they have no 3rd party support" (even though they have more games releasing this year than MS) .
This is already looking bad. For MS. All that money and no support..can't wait for E3...it's gunna be full of surprises on one side and excuses on the other. That floor space alone will eat up whatever presence xbox has. Smh.

[DarXyde]

Before we all crucify moldybread, VR was actually my first thought as well. Whether that was him/ her being cheeky or not, it does make sense. It's still a fledgling medium and it's entirely possible that Sony wants to take this opportunity to sell as many people on it as they can during the expo.

Moving past that, besides VR, it could mean a number of things. Maybe they have some massive multiplayer games to demo. Could be that Sony wants to reduce queue times considerably to make PS4 more accessible to visitors than Scorpio and Switch. There's that very miniscule off chance that they're announcing new hardware like a Vita successor or peripheral. Or, what we all really want to believe, PS4 is getting a crazy amount of games showcased. If it's really just a ton of games, I expect most will be multiplatform with a PlayStation presence. Regardless, we don't need to wait much longer at all.

Soon enough, we'll see.

[TheCommentator]

King, MS says that they're talking about vr in 2018 so, no, MS does not have VR now. I do think that some of sony's space is due to VR needing a larger play area, but obviously they've got more games studios and more games.

We'll have to see why MS chose to put themselves in such good company this year too. They've got a lot of good 3rd party publishers nearby this year...

[andrewsquall]

@KickSpinFilter So Xbox is bringing no VR to E3 then? Is that what the conclusion is that yous came to then? Maybe that is why the negs poured in.

[Malphite]

@Batman:
http://n4g.com/news/1913059...
http://n4g.com/news/1912781...
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[Overload]

Apparently MS's E3 presentation is only 60 mins this year.
https://cdn-images-1.medium...

Edit - Greenburg respoded saying it was wrong, the show is typically 90 mins.

[morganfell]

Booth Space = Games to Show.

[FITgamer]

@BecauseImbatman Then you obviously don't pay much attention because floor space is brought up and reported every E3. Pretty much every time it's Sony > Nintendo > Microsoft.

[darthv72]

If they are smart... they will use that space to allow for more people to try their wares than having to wait in long lines. Meaning they double and triple up on key titles instead of single instances.

[bouzebbal]

Means business !!
Bring on the games..

[Skull521]

Gonna need a safe space after the Scorpio reveal lol

[Erik7357]

Didn't know not having the highest rated exclusive this gen was smashing it

[Inzo]

@BecauseImBatman

Actually the floor space has always been a point of interest when E3 comes around.

[AmUnRa]

Damn Septic-stealthtrolling, it out on all fronts. Not nice😋

[Razzer]

Wow. Seems Microsoft dropped 10k sq ft since last year and Sony gobbled it up.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

[Overload]

Sounds about on par with how things are going in general.

[subtenko]

Sony be that #1 on Agar.io LOL

[pinkcrocodile75]

Maybe Microsoft are going to add a weight restriction by adding a slim entrance to their floor space.

Which would obviously require less floor space over all. lol

maybe only allowing people to operate the turn-style with a stick of celery.

To the question in hand, "frightening" suggests a serial killer with a massive hammer hiding in your room, not floor space .lol

[Bruh]

Yup cause floor space always equates to more games on the show floor. If you're doing multiple VR spaces for a variety of VR titles, theres your need for a ton of space, not to mention the GT Sport floor space last year was massive and thats just ONE game. People really hype random shit up with no clue as to how these things actually work lol

[MegamanXXX]

Sony means business this generation and definitely trying to get the Mass market.

[MegamanXXX]

Can't wait for E3

[GrubsterBeater]

@Games lover

Oh, the immense irony of your statement...

[deafdani]

Trying? They already got it.

[AmUnRa]

What, you said: Sony is trying to get the mass market??
Wakeup call, Sony allready has the mass market a few years ago.

[trooper_]

My goodness, Sony is not playing around.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Sony has alot going on in the next 2 to 3 years. I just want more info on megaton rainfall, pollen, and the hum abduction for vr and Days Gone, God of War, Spider - man, Death Stranding, Hellblade, The new game from Sucker Punch and From Software.

[Daz]

Microsoft has fan fest off site we just ignore that. ;/

[Razzer]

But that is for only 500 people. Versus 10s of thousands.

[rainslacker]

They're not going to show anything at fanfest that they don't have on the E3 floor. E3 floor is for the press, and I guess one day for the public, while fanfest is a limited event to do something nice for some of their fans, who will likely go away saying good things about MS because they got in. Same way Sony does the PS E3 experience.

[rainslacker]

Technically, the amount of floor space isn't directly correlative to the the amount of games or other things they're going to show. They could stock a good portion of that floor space with more stations for the media to play, or have big open spaces for whatever reason.

Not saying that it won't be correlative, just that the floor space itself doesn't really mean much. How it's used is what's important.

We already know that Sony has a lot to show, but not sure how that'll be dispersed throughout their space. Nintendo could indeed have a lot to show, but likely want to have lots of play stations to play their games on, as they aren't prone to having stuff announced far out in advance, so they'll want people playing what is coming soon, instead of waiting to play it. Having the press wait to play tends to irritate them.

MS, I'm sure they have stuff to show. Not sure how they'll use their space, and outside Scorpio, SoT, CD3, and likely a new Forza, they could fill up that space. 17K sq/ft is still quite a bit of space. It's more than 10X the floor space of the average house in America. You can cram a lot of games and systems and stuff into 10 empty houses. that don't have any walls into them.

[Pancit_Canton]

Hopefully next year, Sony would take the addition 17000 sq ft, so Sony have more showcase for their exclusives.

[Sm3000]

Damn, that is frightening

[LackTrue4K]

@Septic and Moldybread
Only way Microsoft will ever cover more floor space @ E3 is if they became a janitor.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Rekt

[frostypants]

Well played with the floor layout map. Sony's footprint is insane, and that's before considering that their Europe division has its own space next to it.

Interested to see what Bethesda's got. That's kind of a big space for a company without a whole lot of known stuff coming. Something big is gonna be revealed.

And finally...what the actual F, Microsoft? No more space than a publisher? Really? REALLY?

[Void000]

OMG! I can't wait to watch this year's E3. It has been the most epic year for gaming ever.

[Relientk77]

It's over 9000! Square feet of space

Sounds like epic fun, I'd love to go to E3 and play all the game demos

[XanderZane]

Been there, done that. About 10 times actually. Going there just to play games is a blast. Going there to work, have meetings and try to play games between running around, it not so much fun.

[AmUnRa]

O you work in as a gaming journalist then.
Curious i am on what gamingside you write. Or for what gaming magazine.

[XanderZane]

@AmUnRa
My cousin and I created an online gaming website called VGTOnline.com many years ago. Had about 7 other guys writing for it. Didn't really make much money, but the perks of getting tons of free video games from 50+ developers and free game systems was payment enough. Got burnt out after over 10 years of that. Sold the site. Then 3-4 years later my cousin created TheBitBag.com. I didn't do much writing on that site though. He got tired of updating it after several years and sold it. It still exists though, but it's being run by someone else. Got to meet lots of developers, celebrities, etc... I was one of the first people to interview Naughty Dog (Jason Rubin & Andy Gavin). They were going to college (MIT) in my home town (Cambridge, MA). They were making Way of the Warrior for 3DO back then. I still have the interview floating around. Fun times though. Did you work in the business as well?

[steven83r]

Last year sucked. With EA, Activision and Disney not being there, it left a lot of open space. Sony was a let down as well if you planned on playing a game. They required appointments and 4 hour wait times. Hopefully with added space this year we'll get to play something.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Sony is just dominating this E3

[UCForce]

This is gonna be good.

[Imalwaysright]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y...

It hasn't even started yet.

[Kingthrash360]

And it's already over.

[Imalwaysright]

You're one of those insiders? What do you know that the rest of us don't?

[Why o why]

shout out to those who know about black adder ........classic

but a few whispers are saying sony wont become complacent. They acknowledge the threat of scorpio so they're not taking their feet of MS's neck. No coasting...No retreat No surrender

[Imalwaysright]

@ Why o why

Wouldn't want it any other way. What kind of gamer would I be if I said no to more games? Keep'em coming.

[3-4-5]

@Imalwaysright....exactly why I have XB1,PS4 & Switch.....3DS,psp/vita.....wh y skip out on games access....oh and PC too.

[Matology]

E3 has happened yet, so how can they be dominating it?

[subtenko]

Well you must mean how can they be dominating E3 (since they are dominating in general now) when E3 hasnt started. They are dominating in E3 atm because of floor space, and most likely (again) show time.

[AmUnRa]

Cous they dominating the E3 for years now. And the Scorpio will not be the breakpoint that Microsoft will "dominate" the E3. Not in your dreams.

[thexmanone]

thanks for you opinion

[corroios]

Games, games and more games.

[Elda]

Come on it's Sony! Not surprising at all! They have all that space for demos of so many titles announced & unannounced including space for PSVR demos.

[SaveFerris]

Why is it 'a frightening amount'? Who is frightened by it?

[Zombiesfeelpain]

Just how Microsoft dropped 10k sq ft compared to last year, now that doesn't necessarily mean Sony has twice the amount of content to show compared to Microsoft but one things for certain, the PlayStation brand will be more prevalent at E3 compared to Xbox.

[corroios]

Of course not, it will have 3, 4 or 5 times more games, because twice is really low for what we already know is coming, lol.

[Nodoze]

I mean, what does MS really have to show? Scorpio and???? 3rd party titles that already are being shown elsewhere? Software will be Crackdown (if it isn't shown this E3 it isn't getting released), Sea of Thieves and what else??? I will reserve judgement until the show, but man the silence from Redmond is deafening.

[Chris12]

I know this article is swamped with Sony fanboys celebrating floor space (say no more), nobody wants to hear that MS removed the usual meeting rooms they have on their stand as this year consumers are allowed in and they will only be using space for games. Meetings will be held elsewhere.

Still, if people want to go crazy over floor space I guess that's a win for some kiddies.

[oSHINSAo]

Wow Corroios, are you seriuos? if MS show 50 games, you think Sony will show up to 250 games ? Space means marketing too, not only games

[The_Sage]

Xbox fanboys, Ferris?

[dRanzer]

So we can afraid from scorpio with all those articles about it and not "frightened" from actual games?

[rainslacker]

Maybe the same people who think others are afraid of the Scorpio?

[Obscure_Observer]

@rainslacker

Well, Sony said Xbox is not competition so, i don´t think they are afraid of the Scorpio. But somehow, their recent actions don´t exactly endorses House´s statement. Look at all those new third party deals. It cost Sony big money. Why they are resorting to third party marketing and dlc exclusive deals while their are at the top spot with a large and diversed line of exclusives is anybody guess. To me, it´s unnecessary.

They should put that money on new games for the PSVR and better support for the PS4Pro.

[Razzer]

@Obscure

No....those marketing deals are huge to maintain PS4's position as the leader in console gaming. You think having the PlayStation logo appended to all those game commercials is unnecessary? lol....hardly.

If anyone should be revaluating their game support, it is Microsoft. Not Sony.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Razzer

"You think having the PlayStation logo appended to all those game commercials is unnecessary? lol....hardly."

Well, if Sony has not competition as they said, i can´t see the reason of throw big money at third party marketing deals.

"If anyone should be revaluating their game support, it is Microsoft. Not Sony."

Yes, true. Microsoft should be investing their money on more exclusives, new ips and first party studios. I think every gamer would agree with that. Only time will tell.

That said, i don´t think Sony is perfect either. And i´ll stand for my opnion. They should offer better support for PSVR and PS4Pro instead of throw big money on third party marketing deals.

[rainslacker]

Well, I was just making a flippant remark highlighting the absurdity of saying anyone should be scared over the events that are happening within the industry. I don't think any sane person in the community would be scared about any of this stuff, or anything else that people act like others would be scared of.

As far as Sony, I don't believe they meant that Xbox isn't competition, just that their primary concern was PC....if I'm remembering the quote you cite correctly. The marketing deals are there to promote their system, not necessarily an indication they're scared of MS. They certainly would have to keep up with competing with MS though, because MS is indeed a major competitor in the market. While XBox may not be selling as well, no doubt Sony would still want their customers, thus making XBOX competition to PS.

My own feelings on such deals is they are not as important as some other things in the market, however, my view on this is skewed because of my general disinterest in almost every game that gets these kinds of deals. But, they obviously work to help sell the console, or the software itself on a particular system, which itself brings in customers and revenue. But I feel that's really another discussion, and not really related to any fear that may exist within the community or from the console makers themselves.

[AmUnRa]

Well, the diehard Xboxfans are saying that PS4fans are frightened by the Scorpio.😉

[Obscure_Observer]

@AmUnRa

Well, not the PS4 fans, no. But the fanboys definelly are! They spend more time on what´s (in their minds) is negative about the Scorpio than what´s is positive about the PS4 in PS4 articles.

Come June 11 they will be Microsoft´s E3 press conference biggest audience.

[DashArrivals]

I'm scared of open spaces and crowds, you arrogant bastard. /s

[Fist4achin]

Bring it! Or maybe it will be one hell of a VR experience.

[TheColbertinator]

Plenty of your favorite indie developers will be at the sony booths like

[Goldby]

im actually looking forward to Hellblade myself, looks to have more quality than alot of games coming out and its an indie, looking like a AAA game

[AmUnRa]

No Hellblade is NOT an indie game, its a full game just like lets say Uncharted.

[Goldby]

Amunra

Ninja theory is covering the cost for the entire development

That means it's indie

[Aenea]

Salty....

[MrSec84]

Oh the Indies will be there, most likely awesome studios like Housemarque and Wild Sheep Studios will have their great games.

Sony also needs a tonne of space for their generation defining AAA, exclusive games, which include 1)God of War, 2)Spider-Man, 3)GT-Sport, 4)Knack 2, 5)Dreams, 6)Days Gone, 7)Detroit: Become Human, 8)The Last of Us: Part 2, 9)Sucker Punch's New IP, 10)From Software's Next PS4 exclusive and the host of other surprise games besides SP and FS revealing their new, unannounced titles.

When I think of all of the devs that have worked on PS4 games earlier this generation, who have great relationships with Sony and have had the time to develop their next projects for 2017, 2018 and 2019 Sony would need that much space to give the gaming media and the public space to show off all of the phenomenal titles and updates they're going to reveal at E3.

[Razzer]

I hear the Xbox area will have really clean carpet. 😁

[AmUnRa]

😄😄😄

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Look at the poor thing. It thinks that's an insult. I guess a certain crowd really just doesn't want more games. It actually makes sense now.

[Goldby]

i know, some of the best games i've played this year are indies.

they break through the mold that the publishers have set in stone.

in refreshing to see unique games again

[UCForce]

Indies or AAA game. They are still game, buddy.

[AmUnRa]

Now that was a very weak form of trolling. Carry on.

[Daz]

Need the space for PSVR :P

[Razzer]

And why does MS need less space?

[Daz]

It does need space for VR if they have it on the floor also ms has fanfest thing off site like last year if im not
mistaken .
why does ms need more space? after e3 we will know.

Seems a bit defensive floor space it not everything

[Razzer]

PS had VR last year. Maybe more VR this year? Maybe MS has less games to show this year than last?

As I pointed out in your other post, the fanfest thing is just for 500 people. Not the same thing as the floor space at E3 for thousands.

[Obscure_Observer]

Nintendo has more space but only 1 hour for their E3 video briefing. At 06/11 MS will have at least 3 hours and 30 minutes between the preview, press conference and reaction shows.

[OB1Biker]

PSVR had space last year. That's not new. Possibly space for Pro 4k demos that wasn't last year. Anyway that s great but what surprising in Ms having Les and less space even with PC VR
BTW the article is no news. E3 space was known two months ago

[thexmanone]

agreed there are a lot of cords to plug in with that

[stuna1]

Sony knows they have to come with their AAA game! When it comes to E3 Sony are seasoned veterans and they more than likely have something up their sleeves to even combat the eventual release of Scorpio, not to mention something in their bag of tricks for Nintendo as well.

Games we know!

VR we know!

But???

Could there also be something hardware related!? Personally I believe so.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

More new hardware? I think that would be throwing a wrench into their own focus right now. They're on cruise control. If you're talking about a handheld, I don't think that would be smart at all. Not only has Nintendo dominated that market for generations, but the Switch is a whole other mountain now. Sony really could just keep doing what they're doing and be good. Another platform would require more resources, and at a time when PSVR already needs more of a push, they could be spreading themselves thin. PS4 is deserving of the vast majority of their attention.

[stuna1]

Well there is that rumor of a potential handheld swirling around!? I don't think Sony are done with potables just yet! It is a lucrative business as Nintendo is continuously showing the industry.

[MrSec84]

Putting out a portable PS4 wouldn't require a tonne of resources, because base PS4 games could be tweaked to run natively on it with very little work and AMD already has an SoC Sony can use, it's called the FX-9800p, even at 28nm it only uses 12-15 Watts and could run games that are 1080p on base home console PS4 at 720p with very little work to settings.
Sure Sony may want to use a smaller fabrication node to reduce power consumption, maybe have AMD put in a CPU core closer to Jaguar, but Excavator can likely run the code easily enough as is.

There's nothing stopping Sony from increasing GPU clockspeeds in the Pro, adding more RAM, a 4K Bluray player and improving the system's cooling if Sony feels the need.

Sony wouldn't be spreading themselves too thinly at all, because these devices would all be a part of one unified platform, PS4 gets the focus because all of these devices are PS4.

[Nodoze]

I really really hope it is not handheld related. That would be Sony taking their eye off the ball. PSVR investment is needed, as is CORE PS4.

[MrSec84]

@Nodoze: If a new PlayStation portable uses a chip based on the FX-9800p then games could just be scaled down to run on it, it wouldn't have it's own custom exclusive games, because it wouldn't be a new PlayStation platform.

Like PS4 Pro plays the same games as the base PS4 the Portable would just run those games on a handheld or tablet style system.
Individual game developers probably wouldn't even need to patch their games specifically for it, Sony could just program into the devices OS that games scale down resolution to fit the hardware.

Sony making this kind of portable member of the PS4 family of hardware wouldn't be them taking their eye of the ball, it's just another PS4 that provides an option for an audience that may not have bought a PS4 in the past because they didn't have the time when at home or indoors to game.

The resources to make games work for it would be very tiny.

PSVR would still get the same level of focus it's getting now.

[MrSec84]

Sony doesn't really need to do anything on the hardware front, but they could have made some added tweaks to PS4 Pro, like refreshing the design to allow for increased GPU clockspeeds, swap the HD Blu-ray for a 4K one and improving the system's cooling for a negligible price increase.
Possibly add another 4GBs of GDDR5 and up bandwidth to help with higher res native 4K games.

It's GPU is basically an RX 480/580, which can be clocked up to something like 1450Mhz, that allows it to hit 6.6TFlops, Pro only runs at 911Mhz to produce 4.197 TFlops, there's absolutely nothing stopping Sony from releasing a newer Pro with a GPU clocked to 1305MHz, it would be another 6TFlop console.

As for something to contend with Nintendo Switch the tech exists for Sony to release a portable PS4 that can run games which are 1080p native on base PS4, at 720p native on this portable chip.
It's AMD's FX-9800p Bristol Ridge APU, at 28nm and packing a quad core 2.7 to 3.6Ghz excavator CPU, along with a GPU that has 512 stream processors clocked at 758Mhz it produces 776GFlops and only uses 12-15 watts, fine for a small portable gaming system.
Sony could of course use a 14 or 16nm manufacturing process to reduce power consumption by like 40%, point is the tech exists for Sony to release a portable that can run PS4 games with minimal development tweaking to base console games.

Personally I think Sony will focus on their huge game lineup coming over the next 12 to 18 months.
Most likely God of War, Spider-Man, Knack 2 and GT Sport are late 2017 games and Dreams, Days Gone, Detroit Become Human will be their Q1/Q2 2018 titles, with The Last of us Part 2, Sucker Punch's new IP and From Software's Next big PS4 exclusive making up their second half of 2018 releases.
There have been solid rumors for a new Devil May Cry and Monster Hunter open world games being exclusive to PS4 too, at least one of those is probably targeted at a 2018 release.

If Sony has new hardware for the PS4 family to release in 2017 then they'll likely do another event like the Pro's reveal, but focus on both the portable and an improved version of the Pro to nullify Scorpio's technical advantages, assuming Sony feels the need to add that kind of pressure back towards their competition.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

"there's absolutely nothing stopping Sony from releasing a newer Pro with a GPU clocked to 1305MHz, it would be another 6TFlop console."

Besides the fact that the Pro just came out a few months ago, and they would be flooding the market with multiple consoles, and it would fuel previous (or current) criticisms about the Pro being half assed, and PlayStation would easily fall under criticism of losing focus when they are clearly in the driver's seat right now. There is no argument to be made about who is putting out the best catalog of games, but releasing another Pro would not only immediately make them play me too with Microsoft's Scorpio, it would also play a dangerous game with the industry if multiple consoles start releasing every year or every other year.

[MrSec84]

@KwietStorm: Pro's been out 6 months, which is more than a few months and if an improved model released in November 2017 the base Pro model would have been out for a full year, but it would still serve a purpose as a more affordable upgrade over the Slim and launch models.
Pro being half assed is one small opinion, to the people that are buying the device it's still an improvement over the launch model, an option they were provided.

PlayStation would only be criticised by Journalist's angling for clicks on gaming articles and haters that can't stand that Sony are matching or beating their precious piece of plastic.

Offering iterative improvements isn't a dangerous game, it's just a way to give people in the market for a more capable device another option, which clearly isn't a sign of Sony losing focus, but rather expanding their field of view to encompass more gamers.
Sony did what they thought was right with the Pro, an updated model would be understandable move, as would releasing a portable, because the tech exists for both and it helps to expand PS4's install base.

I find it funny that you aren't being this critical of Microsoft releasing the XB1 Elite in 2015, then the XB1-S in 2016 and Scorpio in 2017.
If a device fits within one platform/ecosystem then it's not detracting from anything, it's giving the market something else to improve that platform.

Tbh my points are speculation, based on factual, technical knowledge of real world gaming hardware, it's all possible but not certainly going to happen until Sony reveals these devices exist as a part of their future lineup of PlayStation 4 systems.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

But we already have iterative upgrades. That's my point. Generally speaking, every generation has lasted 5-6 years on average. It was only this generation that we got the mid gen upgrades, with Scorpio being much more of a new design than the Pro's approach. Now I've already said my piece on more than one occasion about how this new approach for consoles is already late to the game, when you look at how consumer tech works in general. We get new TV models yearly, new flagship smartphones yearly or even twice a year, computers and parts all the time, etc. Gaming consoles have historically been the only high end tech that sits on the shelf for a good amount of time before offering an upgrade.

The difference with a gaming platform is it's somewhat of an investment. You don't continue putting money into your phone or TV, you just buy them and use them. Even if a new PS4 were to release in November, where do we go from there? A new Xbox the year after? Another PlayStation after that? THEN PlayStaiton 5? Then 5.1? Now we're starting to get into PC territory with upgrades being readily available at any given time, and that starts to take away from the point of a console, especially when a manufacturer doesn't allow said upgrade to be utilized, for the sake of parity. Looking at what the Pro's ceiling is, at least to this point, Sony probably could've waited and gotten much more out of it. It's not like any competition is breathing on their back. Regardless, 3 years between upgrades is more feasible at this point in time than yearly.

[Obscure_Observer]

@MrSec84

My god. That would be an unnecessary, foolish and desperate attempt to counter the Scorpio.

Sony only needs to continue their awesome work on games front and they will be fine.

[MrSec84]

@KwietStorm: So what if we already have iterative consoles, it doesn't mean we can't be given more options.
If Sony just matches Scorpio or slightly outperforms it Microsoft probably wouldn't do anything, not until the next architectural change in hardware, which would be a few years off.

The whole point is to run games as close to native 4K as possible, Pro gets pretty close, but it's core hardware can clearly do more and parts of it's design omit certain technical features that would be very straightforward and cost effective to add.

Gaming consoles aren't high end hardware, they're actually a value option to game on and access entertainment in a simple way that is intuitive.
Just because the old platform paradigm worked in the past, that doesn't mean it should remain stagnant, especially when games can be scaled down or up to suit the relevant hardware available and given that tech providers have made it easy to create multiple devices to use core software that runs seamlessly across said devices, if there's a market for upgraded versions of the core platform, PlayStation, Microsoft, Nintendo and whoever else should cater to it accordingly.

The better option IMO would be for Sony or their Piers to make systems that can be user upgraded, by simply plugging in a new SoC, RAM or HDD when better tech becomes available.
Releasing a new part each year for an appealing price.

TBH though you seem to think I'm saying this is definitely happening, when all I wrote was that the tech is capable of being up clocked and parts can be upgraded easily.

@Obscure: I did say Sony doesn't need to do anything hardware related in my initial post to Stuna, tbh you could say the same thing about Microsoft constantly trying to reassure the world that Scorpio will be the best thing ever, or them acting like resolution or graphical differences weren't really a factor before Scorpio got announced, really these companies are always trying to one-up each other.

Sony aren't desperate, they already have their audience, which is growing, you couldn't blame them for taking advantage of their position by building on their platform to keep their edge as market leader.

Sony not doing anything like this is like telling a heavy weight boxer to not dodge their opponents punch, when they telegraph their next move, Microsoft have basically been spinning their arm around in a circle, shouting out what they're going to do next.

TBH Sony will no doubt continue to outsell Microsoft with all of the awesome games they have coming and decent value price points for PS4 Slim and Pro, Pro and Scorpio are niche devices, which will only account for a small fraction of the overall yearly sales, still it is worth them trying to grab hold of that smaller audience, because the money made adds to their bottom line.

[AmUnRa]

No, why? All the new hardware; VR and PS4 Pro is almost out for more than 1/2' year, so what new hardware??

[MrSec84]

An upgraded version of Pro could exist, with an increased clock speed on it's GPU, 50 % more GDDR5, a 4K Blu-Ray player and better cooling.

The tech also exists to make an affordable PS4 Portable.
Depends whether Sony feels the need to release those devices.
There could also be a wireless version of PSVR.

By November Pro and PSVR would be a year old, if Sony wants to keep their hardware performance edge up there with Microsoft then they could have refined Pro to be even better and at least match Scorpio, pretty easily.

[sk8ofmnd]

Frightening to Nintendo and Ms 😂

[WickedLester]

This is how their booth was at E3 back when it was in Atlanta (I went both years). Sony's booth was so huge, it was all enveloping! No matter where you walked in the convention center, somehow you always found your way into Sony's booth.

[WeAreLegion]

That's awesome. I went in 14 and MS/Sony were dead even on floor space. Looks like Sony's back on top in all areas. They fill a huge space at PSX every year, too.

[XanderZane]

I was at both E3's in Atlanta as well. It was like a 3 ring circus. Send in the clowns. lol!! I know I didn't see everything that week.

[zivtheawesome]

Hpefully (surely) that means games games games. Its gonna be a great E3 for sony.
MS on the other hand has considerably less space than them, which makes it seem like there wont be much reveals on their side.

[Clunkyd]

More games, more space.

[boing1]

Why is it frightening? It's awesome!

[ocelot07]

Great for humans. Frightening for bank accounts.

[bluefox755]

It's cool to see they haven't let their market dominance make them complacent.

[DivineAssault]

That really is a lot of space.. Well, i hope there's some good surprises that dont get leaked

[Melankolis]

Winter is coming

[ritchi45]

Don't they always? Im pretty sure they've held the most floor space at E3 for several years now

[WeAreLegion]

No. For the past few years, Microsoft and Sony have had comparable floor space.

[Pancit_Canton]

Props for Sony's new marketing team.

[SonyFan2]

That's because of PSVR space is needed and takes up a lot of room not more announcements lol gamers are comparing show space more like fanboys I mean , you should be ashamed if you want competition to fail

[DaGreatOne]

Why do you think Nintendo has almost twice as much space, can't be for vr. And I know it's portable features but they obviously don't extra room for that so.

[UCForce]

Very immature, pal.

[Einhander1971]

Sony and Nintendo will win E3:)

[DaGreatOne]

I expect another elaborate performance from Sony with all that room, as for Xbox I have faith they know what they are doing. It's the year of the Scorpio after all.

[ILostMyMind]

Nops! It is The Year of Games.

[DaGreatOne]

I definitely agree with you, I was just making the point that Xbox themselves made that claim at the beginning of the year. So one would hope they would be prepared to back it up.

[LOCO209]

Well it is the first E3 that will let the public in to play so for PlayStation this is a very very smart move.
Lots and Lots of people are going to be playing these games ..
Probably crazy HUGE lines.
Nintendo will have lots of stuff for folks to play considering their space as well
But doesn't xbox camp normally have an outside thing or blow up/un-foldable truck building or some thing they put up? That may be a reason for less space, I mean unless they just plan on showing off the stuff and not having much to play guess we will see.. Going to be an E3 to remember!

[zaherdab]

They need space for VR .... thas one massive VR space though

[UCForce]

Or both for non VR game and VR game ? What you saying is just hypocritical.

[zaherdab]

huh ? it was supposed to be an absurd joke ... how is it hypocritical ? do you understand the meaning of the word ?

[Zerii]

GoW, Death Stranding, Last of Us 2, Days Gone, Spider-Man... Damnnnnnn feels great to be a gamer !

[Yohshida]

In all my years of gaming, I never dreamed that we would reach a point where we're debating floor space at an event.
What a time to be alive.

[Razzer]

lol...what? This year is no different than any other year.

[Lime123]

Let me guess....You're Xbox fanboy?

[UCForce]

He already is.

[Yohshida]

Coming from the biggest slave on this site :D

[Ristul]

What are you talking about, floor space is always a topic in regards to E3.

[AspiringProGenji]

You have lived long enough to lie and troll games like Uncharted without even playing it. Who you think you are fooling champ?

[Fishermenofwar]

Its going to be a Life size anatomically correct Ken Kutraragi statue....

[TheOttomatic91]

I wonder how big The orchestra will be this time?

[rainslacker]

Probably the same size. It's the same venue as last year.

[YoshiMane]

This is disturbing for the future of Xbox, and in your own backyard Microsoft

[BeOpenMinded]

I'm amazed at the salt from all sides about floor space. Everyone should be ashamed as floor space is such a trivial thing to talk about. Food for thought, nobody is talking about nintendo which certainly does not translate to games for one, and if MS did this people would be screaming they are desperate. People latch on to their narratives I guess.

[OB1Biker]

Everyone should be ashamed talking about the e3 floor space? If that's all what they were doing maybe. You d rather people have do not see, do not hear, do not talk monkey behaviour?
Maybe Be Open Minded? The floor space is not THAT important but it's something to talk about with no shame.
'if Ms did' : that victim attitude is getting old too

[BeOpenMinded]

I do regret the tone of the comment, I was trying to highlight the angles that I have been reading in comments about 'space' in relation to games, peripherals, or caring enough etc.. people are reaching in these comments.
Yes, that narrative is old agreed, but simply making a point as to how things can be spun.
Apologies for the 'shame' comment but I sometimes log in here and just wish there was more objectivity and healthy discussion. There is little to be found in this particular comment section and remember being frustrated as I read :)

[OB1Biker]

If Sony was getting so small a floor space you d see many gloom and doom pieces and you know it

[BeOpenMinded]

I don't hold too much stock in what the journalist post nowadays for clicks. There will always be spin and doom and gloom pieces on all sides. I've read so many doom and gloom articles about the switch as well, a great system

[Nacho_Z]

I'm absolutely terrified.

[Brash]

That's what happens when you've got a bunch of games people want to play yo! Exclusives yo! Games yo!

[Legatus]

Damn, thats awesome !!!
Well, you do need a lots of space to show all those awesome exclusives.
Go Sony go !!!

[Xavi4K]

oh wow..can't beleive that people are hyped over the floor plan size...I'll just..pass lol

[joeorc]

floor space is pretty important, thats like asking a reatailer would they prefer endcaps and twice the floor space than the other comp in the industry..of course they would, they are there to show off product, sell product, and get people interested in said product. even how small Microsofts space is vs Nintendo or Sony's that is still a good chunk of space.

17,000+ ft to show off product & game playing...thats not a small amount of space people.

[BadElf]

Frightening? Why frightening?
Clowns are frightening....not square footage.

[theshredded]

I sense a killer game for PSVR! there are rumors of something from Sony Santa Monica so hopefully it's something good!

[derkasan]

Wonder how much will be dedicated to the Vita? Not much, I'd imagine.

[welly300]

Really floor space we will competing over whos got the most light bulbs next.

[Mr Marvel]

Hopefully they need every square centimetre to contain all their awesome.

[Protagonist]

Wish I could attend E3 once.

[windblowsagain]

Can't wait for the Resistance 4 and Resistance remasters.

[Nodoze]

I cannot believe they have not announced this yet. Day 1 for remasters.

[JasonKCK]

OMG! FLOOR SPACE!

[UCForce]

Mean more games to show around. Just like the last year.

[jznrpg]

More space, more games and some more games and a few more games and VR games too

[Shadyceaser]

Why is the author frightened?

[Bronxs15]

Well they don't have the most teraflops anymore, but they got the most floor space!!!

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Its like the same ratio of exclusives available! Interesting!

[N8]

Sony bringing the games as usual

[SCW1982]

My body is ready!

[ApolloTheBoss]

I'm hoping for some Cyberpunk 2077 gameplay this year. Fingers crossed.

[xtheblackparade]

Let's hope there's something good in it. I'd like more grindy rpg's oldskool style.

[DialgaMarine]

Sony is bringing the pain. They're about to drop some serious bombs on the competition.

[GoldenElf]

So, identical to 2016. FRIGHTENING!

[Razzer]

Uh...no. 10k Sq ft more for Sony from 2016. 10k sq ft less for MS.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I mean PS4 is the lead console this generation... it only makes sense. (this coming from an Xbox One owner since 2013)

[FinalomegaS]

took that week off just to sit back and relax with E3...

[DafunkyRebel]

I can't take the wait anymore

[fluxmulder]

Lol we're comparing floor space now? Who cares.

[AmUnRa]

You care, otherwise you did not comment😉

[fluxmulder]

I'm a PC gamer. So no, I don't care.

[MrSec84]

No AmUnRa's right, you cared enough to give the post your time.
If you didn't give it any thought then you wouldn't have posted your reply.

It's psychology dude.

[fluxmulder]

Oh so reading the headline, taking 5 seconds to write a comment about the stupidity of comparing floor space, is "caring". Ok, got it. I expend more energy squeezing out a burp.

[Sm3000]

Even more important, how many models will each camp have showing off the new products .

Btw, how is becauseimbatman's comment inappropriate? I get his point

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

This site... People are really now celebrating the amount of floor space a company books? I mean... when you can just fill it with racks of the same game it is not really a big deal. They probably are just filling it with 100 copies of CoD, destiny2 and battlefront 2 for the kids to play. E3 is open to the public this year so expect a whole lot of crap..

[Tross]

And it's no wonder why I'm a PlayStation fan. Way to go Sony!

[Segata]

Isn't that about the same as every year?

[2cents]

Gotta fit that ego somewhere.

[paseirek]

No matter the space. Import the news

[xsta1ker]

really floor space thats the big deal for sony this e3 thats there winning formula against scorpio & Microsoft lol.
Microsoft & scorpio will use that 17000+sq footage to show all the native 4k goodness and new IP's
it's quality over quantity all day.

i see sony's logic here set up a bunch of space... and no matter how far away there fans are they can still get
great views of scorpio punching out those crisp native 4k images.

[C-H-E-F]

What's sad about this is E3 isn't even their thing anymore because Playstation Experience is their "E3" now hahaaha, man this will be awesome glad i'll be there :)

[MagicBeanz]

Lots of room to show lots of stuff, this is good.

[DJStotty]

understandable really as floor space will be needed to promote destiny, call of duty etc

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Come on Sony, release lots of good stuff.