Why Aren’t Developers Making Games For The Nintendo Switch?

Shaz Mohsin says: "Now, I completely get Nintendo being rigid with the content their system has; but if you don’t loosen the entry gates a little bit, then you’re going to end up with nothing, and content is definitely not the area Nintendo can be too picky on."

[PhoenixUp]

I'm more interested in why people keep using the phrase "selling like hot cakes"

[GameBoyColor]

Cuz it is. Even if stock is limited, everytime they become available they are gone instantly. The demend is there.

[LOL_WUT]

They always do that even with the Wii U yet it never works out the way they planned. I barely managed to get a hold of one from Gamestop ;)

[ABizzel1]

AAA
1. "AAA games" generally speaking need demanding hardware, proven online experiences, etc... therefore AAA games will not be making their way to Switch.

Indies & A-tier developers
2. Nintendo has restrictions on what can and can't be uploaded to their platform, and on top of that it cost significantly more to produce games on their cartridges than on a Blu Ray disc. So games that would be considered A-tier have to run the risk of losing their investment even if the game meets goal, because they took a lost on cartridges. Indies have to jump through too many hoops just to get their game cleared.

The device isn't powerful enough to run AAA-games. A-tier developers are generally spread thin, don't have huge budgets, and the risk/reward is slim on Nintendo platforms for 3rd parties on top of a higher cost media format. Indies having too many rules and regulations to get their games up and clear for eShop.

Altogether shows why games are lacking on Switch right now.

Great platform as a handheld, but it lacks the power needed for 3rd party and Nintendo business always hold themselves back.

[Imalwaysright]

@ ABizzel1

AAA games are games made by big studios with a significant budget not only for developing them but for their marketing as well. Power of the device they're being made for has nothing to do with a game being AAA or not. Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart are very much AAA games.

[bouzebbal]

Buy an overpriced console with no multi media function with no exclusive or 3rd party game worth it is staggering. No matter how good it is to use a console with no games will never be worth buying.
But the fanboys will tell you wait for e3.
Let's wait then...

[davand114]

But do hot cakes even sell that well?

[DivineAssault]

The switch is selling out fast but nintendo has to be careful not to overstock.. They arent stupid and wont risk losing money by making it too accessible but theyll meet the demands eventually

[PurpHerbison]

Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart are WiiU PORTS. They shouldn't be included in the AAA argument. We are talking about potential NEW AAA games, not ports from an even weaker system.

[DarXyde]

ABizzel1,

I imagine AAA titles will make their way to Switch. Early support will likely come from Ubisoft and Bethesda and, should they succeed, we'll see more support. Japanese support is a given; it's relatively simple to port games from PC or PS4 to Switch and Japanese gamers love mobility. Seems like a good start.

As for Indies and A- tier developers, naturally, restrictions apply to content. The cartridges likely cost more because they're proprietary, but PSP saw pretty decent success, as did DS and 3DS. Smaller developers were still able to put out niche games on Vita, even if limited. We don't know the nature of these deals; for all we know, since developers would need to buy the cartridges from Nintendo (being proprietary and all) who's to say they don't waive publishing costs for physics titles?

You mention the power holding it back, but I think that depends on context. As I mentioned, it looks like Switch will gain great Japanese support. If not much else, those games will be present on Switch. We're seeing something of a Japanese renaissance and those games don't really push the hardware. We may sacrifice resolution and/or frame rate, but you also may not. Persona 5 doesn't push the PS4, for instance, yet it's arguably the best game released this year (current game of the generation in my opinion). I don't know how hard DQ11 pushes PS4, but it's also got a Switch version confirmed. For western games that focus on power, sure, Switch is at a disadvantage there. Otherwise, I don't really think so.

[wannabe gamer]

Nintendo systems don't even sell cause they are good anymore. they sell cause they are the hot item to have and see beside someone's tv but they have been collecting dust since the wii. they are expensive paperweights after 1-3 months of purchase. nintendo needs to quit making weak underpowered hardware as a cost saving measure and actually try to do something worth while for once.

[indysurfn]

How does this site go from saying SWITCH lets too many indie games on SWITCH to: it is too tight on what they let on the system? Contradict yourselves much?

CLICK BAIT !

[DarkZane]

Every consoles sell well at the beginning. Both the PS4 and Xbox One had better launches than the switch and both were selling out their stock quickly once new shipments came in (especially the PS4).

However that doesn't matter if you can't keep that up when stock isn't a problem anymore. We'll find out if the Switch is really selling well once stock isn't an issue anymore. The Wii U was doing pretty well at first too, but there was a lot of stock, the sales slowed to almost nothing and the console flopped.

[PhoenixUp]

I'm pretty certain the demand for hot cakes are never so strong that they've been the epitome of demand that warrants the phrase

[IanTH]

You can look here at number 9 as to the best guess:

http://mentalfloss.com/arti...

It is interesting how turns of phrase like this are born, and doubly so when we can only speculate as to their true origin, or why they became popular to begin with.

[BadElf]

I've also had VERY good Cold cakes. I think I prefer COLD cakes

[JayEscobar]

haven't bought any hot cakes since like 2001.

Which...is actually the same year I bought my last Nintendo console, the GameCube

[Nu]

You just BURNT alot of people.

[AspiringProGenji]

Lol

[dragongod64]

The WII was a lot of fun, sorry u didn't like it. The wii u was a steep in the right way but it should have never been made. "Hate" this new thing where Nintendo sells u full price games with no game in the box". I am Never buying a Nintendo system again.

[Pookandpie]

Because the turn of phrase precedes our lifespans by a significant margin- probably originating in the nineteenth century or maybe even earlier.

[babadivad]

Hot cakes sell.

[DanteVFenris666]

and yet I'm sure you agree the PS4 is, stop being a fanboy and wish all consoles a success

[3-4-5]

Developers are making games for Switch though. More have been announced just over the past few days....or "leaked".

Wait for E3. This article shouldn't exist before E3 anyways, as no developer is really going to fully announce their Switch game developments before the 3 days dedicated to those reveals.

It's like people complaining in November why they haven't received their Christmas gifts yet.

Some of you don't really think things through now do you ?

[Rhythmattic]

"I'm more interested in why people keep using the phrase "selling like hot cakes"
Because soon they're gonna get cold.......

[Goodfella78]

Because as per usual with Nintendo for quite some time now there consoles are underpowered overpriced shovelware machines.....

[porkChop]

New Switch games are getting announced pretty much every day. Bigger third parties haven't jumped on yet, but it's clear they're waiting a few months to see if sales die down.

[LOL_WUT]

Usually it means AAA 3rd party support no ones going to write an article for not getting support from small indie devs ;)

[Thatguy-310]

Only Nintendo games sale on Nintendo platforms. I highly doubt you'll be seeing huge third party titles

[objdadon]

"Only Nintendo games sale on Nintendo platforms. I highly doubt you'll be seeing huge third party titles"

If that's the case then there's no way in hell the switch will get anywhere near wii sales so many are boldly predicting. I love my switch but not having big 3rd party games will inevitably seal its fate.

[admiralvic]

"If that's the case then there's no way in hell the switch will get anywhere near wii sales so many are boldly predicting. "

Two things.

1) People project based off what figures indicate and people are interested in. Currently it is selling better than the Wii and track to achieve that level of sales. Based off the data it isn't impossible to believe, but only time will tell.
2) The Wii got there being cheap and generally lacking huge third party titles. You couldn't play Dead Space (minus Extraction or whatever), BioShock, Dead Rising 2 or later (Dead Rising on there is also better left forgotten...), Skyrim, GTA, Street Fighter IV, BlazBlue and countless others and it did fine. While the cost hurts the system, the ability to play things like Skyrim on the go is a huge perk for many.

"I love my switch but not having big 3rd party games will inevitably seal its fate."

It will have less sales (more content can't possibly decrease sales), but how much of an impact it makes is up in the air. However, games that are resource heavy or have a lot of online content, are likely to sell bad on the Switch anyway. As nice as portability is, people typically buy games to play with friends and with an established network, so even if Destiny could run on the Switch, I assume it would easily be the least popular. The same holds true for performance. Dead Rising gets a lot of flack for how poorly it ran on the Wii and it stands to reason people will pick better hardware over portability if hardware is a significant factor.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Monster Hunter says hi. As does Dragon Quest and plenty of others.

[tontontam0]

3DS?

[DashMad]

monster hunter and dragon quest say hi :P.

[LordJamar]

doubt it. the switch is gonna be wii u all over again

[Segata]

It's out tracking Wii sales. It sold more in it's first month than Wii U did in it's first year. Already has more support from 3rd party devs than Wii U did in all 5 years in Switchs first year alone. It has a modern and efficient chip set. An API that isn't GX but Vulkan & OpenGL 4.5. Native UE4 support and really easy to get UE4 games running on it. 20 UE4 Japanese games coming to it. nearly 200 games listed on Wikipedia. Aggressive marketing. Clear communication about the product to the customer. In no way at all is this like Wii U.

[LordJamar]

@segata 100% disagree with you

[yomfweeee]

Segata Switch sales have been very similar to WiiU. WiiU had sold over 3 million by end of 2012. That was 6 weeks in America and about 4 in Europe. Less than 4 in Japan. Wasn't even release in some regions by then.

Switch had a worldwide release on March 3rd and was at 2.74 million after 4 weeks.

So, it really isn't impressive. It was spurred by Zelda, which many people waited years for.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

You mean why are Western Developers aren't making games for the Switch? Well that don't like portable.

[_-EDMIX-_]

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

http://www.ign.com/articles...

Nothing to do with west or east.

We've talked about this before bud.

Resident Evil 5 and 6, MGS4-5, FFX, FFXII FFXV, FFXIII etc all skipped Nintendo platforms.

Please stop trying to spread misinformation. At this point, you know its not true as I've linked those sources to you before.

This isn't about west or east, its simply about the lack of AAA SUPPORT!

ie you won't see many of those companies BIG series on that platform as historically never saw them on those platforms after the introduction of the Playstation.

Heck, Tekken, FF, MGS, RE etc have more of a home on XB then they do a Nintendo system.

BOTH West and EAST are not making AAA games for Switch, but both clearly didn't support Wii U.

mean...MGSV can work on Wii U and it was skipped.

RE5 and 6 and Revelations 2 and 2002 and Zero Remaster all could work on Wii U and SKIPPED

THUS it has NOTHING to do with West vs East.

You don't see FFXV coming to Switch just like you don't see Destiny 2.

Its just too weak.

Stop trying to paint it as if its west vs east when BOTH are not bringing AAA titles and many are even confirming this right out of the gate.

[C_Ali88]

We are talking about the Switch and the Switch only!! Not consoles that are dead and gone, and if we are talking about the Switch then it needs to be said that, Koei, Capcom, Level 5, SE, EA, 2k, Ubisoft, WB games, Mojang, Bandai Namco, Sega, Atlus, are all developing for Switch... Your comment holds very little ACTUAL information pertaining to the Switch. In fact this article ignores scores of third party games to argue an invalid point, such as you have done here!

[wolokowoh]

While I'll agree with the main point, your supporting evidence is very weak. RE5 came out well before Wii U. RE6 was released a month before. So both would have been ports to a low selling console that had too many ports as it was. You conveniently left out RE4 because you knew it was on GameCube first and came to Wii. If you're bring FFX into this, RE4 is fair game for a counter argument. MGS4 also didn't come to Xbox 360 which was available well before release and at the time the better selling out of the PS3 and 360. MGSV came out after PS4 launched and the Wii U was already deemed a failure so a port of any kind wouldn't sell. Sure there's the PS3 version but that sold like crap in comparison on console with 80+ million. As you you pointed out, FFXV on what console. Nintendo doesn't have one that run it in its current state. They had trouble optimizing the PS4 version. FF13 came out well before the Wii U so again it would just be a port. FFX is fair because they could have ported to Wii like RE4 did. This especially true because Wii was successful for JRPGs but then you would have to concede all the handheld support and the Dragon Quest on Wii, etc over the years if we're going back that far. Also Xbox doesn't have FFX Remaster either. FF12 same. The sequel to FF12 was a DS or 3DS game. Also again this ignore Square support of DS/3DS and most likely future support of Switch.

What it comes down to is Nintendo has given developers reasons not to work with them. Since Wii they have underpowered hardware for a home console making it hard for anything but ports of older games and completely original games to flourish. New IP are fairly rare so that just leaves ports.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@C_A- those consoles are still relevant because they show there is a history of these companies not supporting platforms that have either limitations or are unable to sell their properties.

Yes those companies are working on the switch but a lot of those companies have also confirmed titles that won't even show up on the switch.

Capcom has stated Resident Evil will not appear on the switch but technically they've had this stance for Nintendo platforms since 2013 if you actually look up those releases.

Square Enix has just stated Final Fantasy 15 is not coming to the switch which only further confirms that this is the situation comparable to the previous systems.

I mean the Assassins Creed game based on the leaks is not coming to the switch which once again confirms this is a situation comparable to those previous systems where they were too weak.

I mean consider you never got Assassin's Creed Unity or Syndicate on the Wii U.

If you ever want to see what a company is likely to do in the future simply look at what they've done in the past.
There is a pattern in the history of these companies not supporting a Nintendo platform if it's too weak actually regardless of its sales.

Wii

@wolo-Resident Evil 5 and 6 were also re-released on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One in completely skipped the Wii U in fact Revelations 2 and 2002 and Resident Evil Zero were also remastered and never appeared on the Wii U.

The very first Revelations game is being re-released on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One and it doesn't have a switch version.

To my understanding capcom's comments were Resident Evils were not coming to the switch they stated nothing about Resident Evil 7 which actually means they don't mean a single particular title it sounds like they mean the series in general but this simply support an idea that they've been doing since 2013 where Nintendo systems have been being skipped for Resident Evil re-releases and normal releases.

Final Fantasy 10 and Final Fantasy 12 are also being re-released that are not appearing on Nintendo platforms so please stop using the releases of The Originals as justification for them not appearing on Nintendo systems because for the most part that doesn't explain why they are not being re-released on Nintendo systems.... I mean Dream Drop Distance was completely remade in 3D for PlayStation 4 and completely skipped the Wii U or switch despite the original game existing on 3DS.

Facts

That it's not a subjective idea
that is not an opinion
that is not my personal view

that is something that is objective, it is a fact you can look up yourself.

[Fist4achin]

Nintendo will start to throw some serious money around like they did for the ds and 3ds. Already we see another iteration of Monster Hunster only being released on the switch. That will definitely bolster their Japan sales. Then we will see a persona, FF, DQ, Bayonetta, No more heroes, etc... roll out exclusive to the switch. It may look like a slow start, but they know what sells and will either bring it, or pay to bring it. Despite their failures, they still have deep pockets.

Like you said, nothing to do with the east vs west.

[DashMad]

Monster hunter, some of niche PSvita JRPG dev also jump ship to the switch already game like Disgaea 5, fate, tohou even koei tecmo delay night of azure 2 to release on switch, it got dragon quest and i bet it sold more in switch than PS4. SMT from atlus, tales of game. PS4 just isn't healthy enough for japanese market that flagship IP like FFXV barely sold 1 million that huge drop from FFXIII and majority of it's game bomba in japan, hell i predicted switch will outsold PS4 LTD in just 15 month in japan or in a year if they can get their stock problem solved.

[quent]

The System is barely 3 months old so give it the benefit of the doubt just like everyone did for the other 2 systems for a couple of years before the software started picking up, also, who says developers aren't making games for it ?

[Thatguy-310]

Third party support from big publishers was always present for those two systems tho.

[Vegamyster]

They also launched right before the holiday season which is when a large number of popular games come out, not at the start of March, even the Wii-U's launch had a fairly significant amount of 3rd party games although some of them were older. If no new games are announced at E3 for the Fall then it probably won't have much support from big franchises, we won't really know until then.

[_-EDMIX-_]

lol

PS and XB needed a couple years before developers made games for them?

LOL! You sure about that?

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

[quent]

Yeah I'm sure, 2 spinoffs, a couple of remasterd ps3 titles and a poor mans Crash Bandicoot doesn't really count

IMO

[C_Ali88]

Bring up a MORE RECENT article, everything you post seems to be PRE LAUNCH lol....

_-EDMIX-_ You're an embarrassment..

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/...

[porkChop]

Dude, I got my PS4 right after launch. Outside of the big AAA mega franchises, the want much for the first year and a half. Things were pretty sparse for the XBO as well.

I mean do you really not remember everyone dubbing PS4 the "IndieStation 4"? It's a great system, don't get me wrong. I love my PS4. But I'm not going to pretend that the first year or two didn't suck.

Every new platform is like that, and always have been in my near-25 years of gaming.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Pork-

PS4 and XONE launched with Battlefield 4, Call Of Duty Ghost, Need For Speed, ACIV and many other AAA games.

LAUNCHED with those games.

Switch is not getting Call Of Duty (not day and date anyway if ever) Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, Prey, Shadow Of War, AC Origins, Far Cry 5 etc.

If PS4 and XONE can get a bunch of cross gen games, why is Switch not getting this treatment?

"Every new platform is like that"

LOL

Every new platforms doesn't launch with BF, COD, NFS etc?

You sure?

Buddy...the same games that LAUNCHED on PS4 and XONE are NOT COMING TO SWITCH AT ALL, that isn't a "first year " issue, that is a its not coming to the system issue.

We didn't just get PS4 and XONE and then have to wait years for Battlefield 4, Call Of Duty Ghost, Need For Speed, ACIV etc so why are you assuming it makes sense for Switch users to wait for games series PS and XB owners got at launch?

[letsa_go]

@porkChop The Nintendo 64 game drought was the WORST! That actually got me out of gaming until the dreamcast. I should've got the PS1. haha

[porkChop]

Alright, Edmix. Clearly reading isn't your strong suit.

What I said:
"Outside of the big AAA mega franchises, there wasn't much for the first year and a half."

What you said:
"PS4 and XONE launched with Battlefield 4, Call Of Duty Ghost, Need For Speed, ACIV and many other AAA games."

I said that the PS4/XBO didn't have much in the first year *outside* of the big AAA franchises. So you proceed to bring up how they launched with the big AAA franchises. Good job, bud.

No shit they had the big games, but outside of those big games there was nothing but Indies. The libraries were sparse in the first year aside from the usual big games and Indies. This is the same with almost every new platform launch.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Pork- "No shit they had the big games, but outside of those big game"

lol so outside of big games, they didn't have games....ok bud.

Good luck with that.

Why are you excluding games?

The point is, those "big games" released at launch on PS4 and XONE, yet are not on Switch.

"I said that the PS4/XBO didn't have much in the first year *outside* of the big AAA franchises"

Well sure, Switch has even less as it doesn't even have those "big AAA franchises"

I mean...based on your logic, you still agree.

Its lacking in games. Switch doesn't have those "big AAA franchise" by 3rd party.

To exclude those games doesn't make any sense, you are saying that PS4 and XONE launched with games that clearly are not on Switch, sooooooo that actually means, by your post bud, that PS4 and XONE launched with "bigger" games.

"This is the same with almost every new platform launch"

No its not. You can't say " they had the big games, but outside of those big game"

???

They had games that are not coming to Switch at launch. THUS, no its not "the same".

So PS4 and XONE have big AAA game not found on Switch OH but at the same time they are "the same"?

LMFAO dude no, you can't have if both ways. PS4 and XONE launched with multiple series for a fact NOT FOUND on Switch and already confirmed to not be coming. By default it will have a lessor launch.

Stop excluding games to force a narrative. It makes no sense. I mean Switch had a bad launch, if you exclude Zelda, Mario Kart (ports bro) /s

Come on pal. This is looking at the entire launch,what you feel about big AAA is irrelevant. PS4 and XONE launched with some of the biggest properties in gaming.

[Snez]

The Xbone and PS4 were instantly getting ports of the latest big name franchises alongside the last generation systems. It only took one or two games from the franchises and they had flat out jumped ship to our current generation.
The other systems didn't have to wait a couple of years at all.

[ninsigma]

Who waited a couple years?? Latest COD and Assassins creed a LOT more big 3RD party were released to PS4 and XBOX ONE the year they came out and haven't stopped since. None of that is happening for the Switch, that's the difference.

[Blu3_Berry]

They're most likely waiting to see how it does before putting their resources into it.

[Toiletsteak]

If only there was some sort of show where they could announce new games.

[porkChop]

Nah, bro. Nothing like that exists lol.

[ziggurcat]

"Why Aren’t Developers Making Games For The Nintendo Switch?"

because the competition will have systems out that are 4-6 times more powerful, and who is going to buy a 3rd party game on a significantly weaker system if they own a Switch/Scorpio, Switch/PS4 Pro or all three?

[bluefox755]

It's underpowered. It'll get games, just not major AAA third party titles.

[corroios]

Lack of power, cartridges, online service and its a portable first

[Subzero100x]

190°
"Why Aren’t Developers Making Games For The Nintendo Switch?"

Maybe because they aren't interested in under-powered garbage.

[Athos]

You mean like the PS2 was compared to the Xbox and Cube? Or like the Wii was when it slaughtered the PS3 and 360? You win the stupid dumb ass comment of the day award.

[C_Ali88]

Cut him some slack his brain is frozen!!!

[dRanzer]

Do you really see BF1,the next AC,Call of duty WW2,the witcher 3 or GTA running on the switch?
With 4 giga Ram and CPU that belong to smartphones i doubt it

[_LarZen_]

Because if history repeats itself the percentage that buys a non Nintendo game are smal.

[ILostMyMind]

Because it is a Nintendo console and Nintendo users don't buy third party games.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Tell that to 3DS owners who flock to Yokai Watch, Monster Hunter, the Bravely games and plenty of others.

Nintendo gamers do buy third party games.
We just don't beg EA for trash like CoD.XD

[Protagonist]

Yokai Watch?

What a desperate argument. That series barely sold out of Japan, because it is primarily a Japanese kids game boosted by the Japanese anime television series and bought by Japanese moms for their kids.

Did i mention it is primarily a Japanese thing.

And yeah switch owners would love CoD for the system... will not happen though.

[objdadon]

A console should have all games, end of story. We have generations of kids growing up now having never touched a Nintendo console because they don't have the big popular games on their system. I remember when Nintendo had everything.

[ninsigma]

You'll be the first to praise big games like COD coming to the system if they got announced.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

@protag
What's desperate is how willing you are to downplay how well it sold while ignoring all other examples.
And no, most CoD players don't go for the Nintendo versions, because the devs behind the series consistently fuck up the ports.
And no, there's no indication that CoD can't or won't happen on Switch at some point in the near future. If it becomes popular enough, you can bet they'll shove it onto it no matter how poor a job they do at it.

@Objda
There's also plenty who stick just to Nintendo systems and have never touched a competing system because of various reasons, such as being able to get most of the multiplats on PC as well, and there are even more people now, who never touched a Nintendo system, that are getting a Switch, so what's your point?
There was never a time when any system had "everything".
I got a PS2 and PS3 myself because it got games others didn't, to compliment all the exclusives I was already playing on Nintendo systems, and that's not a sin.
More gamers should branch out for exclusives.

@ninsigma
Only insofar as it relates to catering to the small minority of people who would care about a Switch version.
I, however, would still call it trash, not praise it. Especially since the devs would inevitably screw up the porting process.

[jznrpg]

Id rather they be picky instead of getting all those games Wii had. And there are develooers making games , it just came out. Long term I am not sure of they will have enough games or not but its too early to know

[DialgaMarine]

Because it's been time tested over the last 3 decades that the vast majority of Nintendo users have no interest in non-Nintendo titles. Why should developers waste time and money making games for that audience when it won't make a difference. Titles like CoD, Destiny, Battlefield, etc., will still make insane amounts of money with or without Nintendo versions.

[Athos]

Another stupid comment... 27 third party titles sold over a million on the Wii, including CoD. Destiny runs on a 360 or PS3 which are less powerful than a Switch, so obviously it would run on it.

[C_Ali88]

They don't care about facts, or the fact that it costed a fraction to develop for the wii vs the Ps3 or 360, leading to upper tier profit margins on software!! But logic is overrated here on N4G.

[DialgaMarine]

Destiny is an always online game. PS3 and 360 can do that. Tell me how you think Switch can run an always online game in portable mode? Because if it can't, what's the point in it being there at when that's Switch's biggest selling point?

Also, compare Wii U third party sales to PS4.

[Athos]

Use your phone as a hot spot, get a MiFi, go to Starbucks. Use your brain.

[DialgaMarine]

Yes, because buying a $300 Switch, then buying a mobile hotspot and spending god knows how much per month because of high data usage, totally sounds so appealing. Let's ignore the fact that the games will still look and run significantly worse than their current gen counterparts. Oh well. You Nintendrones can argue the point all day, but it remains mute; Switch isn't getting these games and that's very unlikely to change ;)

I'll keep my Switch for the 1 or 2 Nintendo exclusives I care about, while PS4 Pro remains my primary console for everything else. Enjoy your mediocrity :)

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Tell that to 3DS users. Hope you like getting laughed out of the room.

[DialgaMarine]

I didn't realize the games I listed were on 3DS. Oh wait..

[GameBoyColor]

So capcom, level5, atlus, marvelous and sega games dont count as 3rd party? Well ill be damned i didnt know nintendo owned a monopoly.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Your point was none-Nintendo titles; cherry-picking games that are only on consoles is just moving the goalposts to support a bad argument. There are plenty of None-Nintendo games that Nintendo gamers buy.
And the fact that 3DS devs are bringing projects over to Switch means the range of titles from them will only keep increasing.

Also, the point of Switch is that it's both home AND handheld.
Meaning players could treat it just like any other console, far as an always-online title is concerned, by leaving it docked at home when playing it.
Which is LITERALLY THE SAME THING THEY'LL DO WITH IT ON ALL OTHER CONSOLES ANYWAYS, which makes the complaints about doing it with Switch more than a little asinine, if not downright retarded.

It's cherry-picking and goalpost-moving at its finest, and the system isn't even 6 months old yet, which makes all this whining about games just plain f***ing stupid.
Great games, and ports of games that were still midway through dev time when the system was revealed, don't happen in two or three months of time.
People need to show some damned patience.

That or, you know, stop b****ing about a system they obviously hate and have no intention to give a fair shot no matter what games it does get.

[ruefrak]

People seem to like to cherry pick to show that 3rd party games sell on Nintendo platforms, but there's a reason EA, Ubisoft, Activision, and most other AAA devs essentially abandoned Wii U. It wasn't because their games were selling great. They've also stopped developing games for PS360, because those systems are underpowered and can't run the gamess they want to make.

[GameBoyColor]

How is it cherry picking? If anything the people saying nintendo fans dont buy 3rd party games cherry pick the big 3 aaa companies lol. They conviently forget all about capcom and level 5

[ruefrak]

@gameboycolor
Referencing Capcom and Level 5 is what I mean by cherry picking. Yes, Capcom has had success with Monster Hunter and a few others on Nintendo platforms. And as someone who has been playing video games for 30+ years, who is Level 5?? I must have missed their press conference at E3. I mean, even Devolver Digital is more recognized.

I love Nintendo games, and I really wished that they created consoles that brought back the "playing with power" mantra for days of old. But they aren't. Their last few consoles have been severely underpowered when compared to the competition and that actually is a problem. Yes, you can play Zelda or a new Mario game, but as for Madden, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, or any of the other big spectacle releases, you're out of luck. When I was a Wii only owner, I eventually got bad that the version of FIFA I had to play sucked so bad it wasn't even worth buying. I eventually broke down and bought a PS3.

[BrandanT]

Have the policies too loose, then you're going to end up with the Wii again - A whole crap load of shovelware.

[sk8ofmnd]

Hmm i can think of 3 reasons off the top of my head...

1. Underpowered
2. Overpriced
3. 3Rd partys dont sell on nintendo

Cell shaded cartoon graphics worked with the wii, failed with the wiiu, and it will fail on the switch. Plus this isnt 2006... Sony is on top and by this fall will be less expensive... They also have the biggest catalog of games, and have AAA 3rd partys.

[Hedstrom]

Wii sold shitloads, but third party games didnt sell well at all. Wii-U sold crap and third party games lilewise. I think third party developers thread carefully, if the console keeps selling well som developers will start treading the waters. Untill then there will be smaller games coming from third partys, those who dont involve any greater risk.

[C_Ali88]

That is not correct if you actually knew the economics of third party on Wii they were making MONEY. It costed SIGNIFICANTLY less to develop for wii than ps3 or Xbox360 we are talking MILLIONS less in dev costs. And games sold fairly well. Profit Margins were greater for those reason and is why even loads of shovel ware made money of what we would consider abysmal sales.

[plmkoh]

Nope you are wrong, you didn't look at the big picture. Wii titles cost less to develop because they were casual games but at the same time cost of attracting customers costs a hell of a lot more because you couldn't use big events like E3 to spread your word.

http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

"He acknowledged the Wii in particular has been difficult for Ubisoft to find success with. Pointing to the console's generous sales, he noted that games published for the Wii made up only 10 percent of Ubisoft's sales"

Before you make comment about how trashy Ubisoft titles were, they did try with Red Steel series.

[Majin-vegeta]

Cuz devs don't see it profitable yet.Give it a year and well get a good idea

[BIGBOSS08]

Guys don't bother. .. Nintendo fanboys have an excuse for everything. Don't waste time trying to reason with them.

[Yohshida]

Dont know, makes really no sense. The System is constantly sold out and winning NPD left and right.

[Lime123]

Exactly. And Xbox One is in a third place second month in a row in their strongest market. Scorpio, hurry up!

[Kiwi66]

Maybe because they don't want to because its their choice to do so

[Trekster_Gamer]

Underpowered and crappy 3rd party support from Nintendo!

[TheOttomatic91]

Because Switch owners are only interested in first party titles.

[Aenea]

Who says they aren't?

[BadElf]

about 3 months in....

[feraldrgn]

Most devs are waiting to see if it has a future ahead of it.

[BlahBlahWhatever]

Because it have the power of a smartphone ROFL! Ninty can go ask devs of mobile games to make some games for it, for example the studio that make Angry Birds hahahahahahahahaha hahahaha haha... ha... ha... ha.....

[ILostMyMind]

The funny thing is it's not a joke.

[Snez]

The article mentions online only game, Destiny 2. The Switch doesn't have voice chat and is still using friend codes. It's archaic, the Xbox 360 had better online than it.

Nintendo consoles are excellent for local co-op, I use mine for Friday night food and mario kart with friends. But what they're awful for is online play, and that's exactly what developers and publishers have been moving more and more to since the last generation.

[Export]

Switch will have voice chat this time - all from your smart device . Not sure I like that but again ... I dont play this switch for voice chat and I dont care to let my 7 year old have it either .

[Snez]

Voice chat ran by a second device is an awful idea, and it shows how poorly Nintendo fare in online capabilities.
Both the PSP and Vita are capable of voice chat, the Vita offering party chat capabilities and some excellent online services for a portable device.

If the Switch ever got copies of mainstream games that also made their way to PS4, Xbox and PC, I would never buy the Switch version. It would​be worse in pretty much most regards, but also suffer from archaic online. For this reason it's good that these mainstream games aren't coming to the Switch, and instead it should continue to offer experiences you would be unable to find outside the console.

[Rhythmattic]

"I dont play this switch for voice chat and I dont care to let my 7 year old have it either ."
Yeh, guess thats a good reason for the craply implemented feature. /s

[DivineAssault]

They will.. I have no idea how many but there will be some gems on this system to say the least.. If it blows up the switch will the best exclusives as far as quality is concerned

[masterfox]

Switch could be another Wii because of the so call is selling damn great, but lets say is another Wii in terms of sales, but the question is do you think this is good for the gaming industry as a whole ?, the answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT!, the Wii sales were great in its time but the only beneficiary was Nintendo only, but for third party developers or the customers it was a nightmare, take for example Tsunoko vs Capcom their sales of this game were pretty bad, also 90 % or more of the Wii games library were pure shovelware, so in the end we could have another Wii situation here with the Switch but I pretty doubt it, as you can see seeing articles like this so early is just the beginning of another Wii U pathetic situation, look all the fanatism go crazy for Mario Kart...again!, same exactly game of last years, look Capcom again had the guts to release a 6 year old game and claim is the best thing ever, 100 % sure that the people that have a Switch is getting very desperate for games right now.

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

The gaming industry moving towards a console that is not dependent on a tv is bad? why?

[DashMad]

wow always talk about wii eh you don't realise that switch is portable, some 3ds game (MHXX for example)starting to move over to switch also some of vita dev starting to jump ship to switch. talk all you want you forget that some of 3rd party games like monster hunter, bravely default, yokai watch etc did achieve success on nintendo handheld.

[3-4-5]

Developers Are making games for Switch, and more leaks and announcements from developers have been talked about in the last 2-3 days alone.

E3 is on the way as well, and that is the time a lot of developers will announce their games.

This article is pointless until after E3.

[LordJamar]

its gonna be wii u all over agian lol its so very obvious only 3rd party its gonna get is indie game and bad ports and japan shovel ware lets be honest ppl buy this thing for nintendo games nothing else maters and nothing else is gonna sale on it sooner or later no 3rd good decent AAA 3rd party will seal this things fate just like wii u the switch is a ticking time bomb

[Cy]

I can't believe I'm about to defend Nintendo here, but, since Nintendo is actually doing E3 this year, how about we wait until *after* their conference before we start saying no games are coming out for the Switch?

[Araragifeels]

I am hoping for a Metroid Fusion sequel or a Pokemon game for the Switch.

[deafdani]

They aren't doing a conference, they're doing a digital event followed by all day long Treehouse coverage, just like they've done in the last few years.

[Export]

I dont know , Alot of games are coming out ... alot of indies tho but there are some bigger companies . Street fighter from Capcom , Fifa from EA , Steep from Ubisoft , Dragon Quest X & XI from Square Enix and Some fun games from smaller companies , I guess you can call them indies like Payday 2 , LEGO world , Portal Knights , and Stardew Valley . But I buy it for my kids not me . I got my Xbox one and PS4 for that . Nintendo got some neat first parties games like Arms and Splatoon 2.. neat Mario game for the wife and its all kid theme games , I like that over my kid getting into my FPS games with Zombies and that .

[leeeroythe3rd]

Expensive to release carts... lots of risk if you release poor performer. Digital sales will be 3rd parties only path to high volume.

[NecoTehSergal]

Swear I kept seeing spam-amounts of articles going "WOWEE LOOK AT ALL THE DEVS WHO PROMISE TO MAKE SWITCH GAMES LOL IT HAS SO MANY GAMES ITS DOING GREAT AND ITS SELLING LIKE HOT CAKES!"

Now we got articles/videos saying this?

[Segata]

Are you daft? It has a bunch of games coming to it. Close to 200 listed on Wikipedia. There is a lot of stuff being made for it.

[MagicBeanz]

Cause its another Nintendo gimmick that is slowly dying, like always theres early Nintendo fan hype out the gate and then it inevitably sinks into obscurity.

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

Slowly dying? The denial is insane. It is selling better than the wii.

[MagicBeanz]

You seem upset, is it something I said?

[Athos]

You have to excuse him, he is allergic to stupid comments.

[TejasTV]

I have a switch and I can't keep up with all the games that already exist imo. I'm probably not as hardcore as most but Zelda, Mario Kart, and binding of Isaac is keeping me plenty busy for now. I realize that a lot of the games have already come out on other platforms but I never got to play em. I guess the switch isn't for everybody but for a busy person like me it's been a super convenient way to squeeze some game time in.

[zivtheawesome]

There is one reason and it is not the power as devs could always tone down graphics. The reason is the cartridge size is just too small to support AAA games. Modern games weigh 40~60 GB per game but cartridges hold a much smaller size making it immpossible to develop AAA games for it.

[plmkoh]

Best to wait before making comments like that, because it has been out for less than 6 months and E3 is not over.

But perhaps they have a lot of secrets waiting to be announced, or their silence is proof of a lack of content. Either way they will have to make a huge uphill case to convince me of buying one.

[Einhander1971]

Trolls are out again, nothing good or constructive to say. The funny thing is with all this bollocks about bringing AAA games to switch, most of games u want to play are shit anyway. Get this I can guarantee MARIO ODDESSY will steel E3, and take the lime light of most so called top tier games. Get over it fanboys, oh and the other thing is your all moaning about switch when most of u own ps4 so what's your fucking problem. I own ps4, switch I can enjoy the best of both formats.

[objdadon]

Word is that it's getting cod world war 2 though, announced at e3. My fingers are crossed because if it is I'm double dipping because if the portability alone.

[Platformgamer]

Because switch is a shitty console, deal with it

[Athos]

It's a tablet with a dock that is kicking your favorite systems ass, in both hardware and software sales.

Deal with it.

[Smokingunz]

I rather see the switch get its own exclusives games just like the 3ds did vs ports from consoles. Devs need to develop games strictly around the switches hardware. It never go's well trying to port console games over to handehlds.

I guess nintendo also needs to loosen up on their restrictions, they saw how badly the wii u failed so would they want to repeat the same mistake, especially when they'vr tried so hard to differentiate the switch from the wii u.

I also thik the switch hardware is enough to run any AAA exclusive on it, it may nit look ifentical but close is good enough. Capcom is even making resident evil 7 on the switch, they even went as far as to say that that the game is already running on thr switch. We have to remember people the switch can run unresl engine for ebich most consoles use so there go's youroroof right there.

[FinalomegaS]

a negative opinion piece flaring up on N4G.... big surprise xD

[NohansenBoy]

Because Nintendo has poor focus.

[Drithe]

Because Nintendon't. Ohhhhhhhhhh buuuuurn!

[kangolkyle]

Give it a year, if they kill the holidays and still have a slate of dope 1st party stuff coming then the smart AAA companies will adjust

[Ulf]

Wii owners were notoriously frugal with their non-nintendo game purchases. Publishers were burned. They aren't going to just jump back in.

[Orionsangel]

Because it's the Wii U all over again. Get ready for months without anything good to play and waiting for first party Nintendo games. So typical of Nintendo. I don't know why people expect anything different from Nintendo.

[Nodoze]

I have a sinking suspicion this is forced scarcity from Nintendo driving the 'craze' to get one. Nothing all that compelling software wise atm. Wait two or three years for the inevitable improved version, and all the software releases that will be available at that time (versus the wii U ports).

[King_Lothric]

Nintendo doesn't have healthy third party support since the N64. It has been like that all these years. I don't know why some people find it hard to accept or even hope to be any different while Nintendo keep the same business practices.

Nintendo consoles are for Nintendo games. If you buy a Nintendo console hoping for third party support on it, you lied to yourself.