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“Developers are free to choose how they use the power of Project Scorpio for games. We have no requirements limiting framerate or fidelity.”

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Obscure_Observer2569d ago

That´s great news! Devs are allowed to use the Scorpio´s power as they see fit. If things go south, it´s all on them.

Gamers will be aware of lazy devs and crappy studios as the time passes. I´ll do a list of crappy devs on my own then i´ll know what dev/studios i should support in the future.

Gazondaily2568d ago

Good news indeed. 4K native res is nice I'm sure but for those of us who don't have a 4K tv yet, and just generally, I want that power out to good use in terms of frame rate or better visuals etc.

freshslicepizza2568d ago

I am glad they are not folling in the footsteps on their closest rival. Everything Microsoft is doing for Scorpio seems to be very well thought out. Even all the Xbox One games will get an upgrade on Scorpio, including supersampling and better aliasing for 1080p owners. They are going through each game engine to make sure every game works and benefits with Scorpio.

What I find very amusing is how so many before couldn't really tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps or that nothing is wrong with 30fps games but when you mention there could be differences online all of the sudden it's a huge deal, lol. Forza Horizon 3 already supports the PC and Xbox One crossplay and the PC runs at an unlocked frame rate.

donthate2568d ago

Uncompromised native 4K with high resolution textures is going to be glorious. Bring the monster!

4Sh0w2568d ago

Yeah I like it, let the devs use it how they see fit, if a game doesn't take advantage of the extra power then that's on them.

tyasia02568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

So Microsoft doesn't only support Pay to Win games they also support Pay to Win consoles.

Sony said multiplayer fps should be the same on PS4 and PS4 Pro for the gamers. The goal was to keep things on even footing for all players.

Now instead of skill deciding who wins in multiplayer lets give an advantage to the person with the faster console.

It's unfortunate that people support this or act like it's a good thing for the Xbox community.

Chris122567d ago

@tyasia0 - your trolling is descending to childish levels. Scorpio really has got you triggered right now. What FUD are you working on next buddy?

donthate2567d ago

@tyasia0:

Sony president Shuhei Yoshida said that higher resolution allows you to “be a better gamer”, but doesn't that mean that PS4 Pro is a pay-to-win too?

It seems, your only option is to game on Switch, the one device that really doesn't have MP games. Lucky you! XD

Source: https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

DrumBeat2567d ago

Agreed. I'm so tired of resolution, and it doesn't look like this ridiculous obsession is going away anytime soon.

vegasgamerdawg2567d ago

@tyasia0 Where do you get that from? All the article said is it's up to the developers. If the developers want parity, there will be parity. Who are you to tell others how to make their game? You're just projecting and guessing. I smell a fanBOY "It's the way Sony does so it' right"...lol. Not all games are the same, it will matter for some and maybe the developer will ask for parity, it will not matter in other games so no parity needed. Why dictate? Pc been doing it for years and I don't see them crying.

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Rude-ro2568d ago

Yet you support Microsoft for the last 6 years?
Or is that on top of the list?

fathertime44642568d ago

I've supported MS for the past 12yrs. Sony bored me out of gaming, MS brought me back to gaming

Rude-ro2568d ago

That literally makes no sense. Half of that 12 years had been what to make it exciting? Kinect over AAA?
Repetitive titles?
And if what they have to offer is so great... why the need for a new console?

Obscure_Observer2568d ago

@Rude-ro

I´ve been supporting Microsoft since the original Xbox days. Same goes for Sony and Nintendo original Playstation and NES.

You see? I got passion for GAMES.

B1uBurneR2568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

Let's not forget this guy works for MS brace for policy reversal.

DigitalRaptor2568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

So people will call out "lazy devs" for not supporting well enough what is an extremely niche, potentially quite expensive, mid-generation upgrade, that most current or future Xbox gamers won't care about investing in?

I'm sorry but the onus is on MS to make developers want to support it. You can preemptively damage control bad support all day, but you would have a better point if this was a brand new console with a better chance at reaching a larger number of gamers.

Obscure_Observer2568d ago

@DigitalRaptor

"So people will call out "lazy devs" for not supporting well enough what is an extremely niche, potentially quite expensive, mid-generation upgrade, that most current or future Xbox gamers won't care about investing in?"

Are they working on or giving their games to both Pro and Scorpio owners for free? NO! So, since they want MY money, they better work hard as i do to deserve it!

"I'm sorry but the onus is on MS to make developers want to support it. You can preemptively damage control bad support all day, but you would have a better point if this was a brand new console with a better chance at reaching a larger number of gamers."

Good luck while you wait for the PS5 playing your base PS4. Neither Sony or Microsoft are forcing you to buy anything. It´s an option for gamers who wants more of console gamming. Don´t like upgrade consoles? Blame on Sony! They started this trend!

4Sh0w2568d ago

digital,

I never go as so far as calling a dev lazy, sometimes I completely understand that devs might not be able to do much more to optimize for a specific console, but there are times when it's clear devs just didn't do a good job utilizing the hardware strengths and YES we should expect them to do that on ps4pro and Scorpio because the only way any platform grows is because 1st and 3rd parties support them long before they had 30mil install base.

DigitalRaptor2567d ago

@ Obscure_Observer

"Are they working on or giving their games to both Pro and Scorpio owners for free? NO! So, since they want MY money, they better work hard as i do to deserve it!"

These developers didn't ask Sony or MS for mid-gen versions. They are not required to support anything. So the onus is not on them, but on the manufacturer.
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"Good luck while you wait for the PS5 playing your base PS4. Neither Sony or Microsoft are forcing you to buy anything. It´s an option for gamers who wants more of console gamming. Don´t like upgrade consoles? Blame on Sony! They started this trend!"

Ummm.. what? How does that have anything to do with my comment? And no, Sony didn't start any trend of the sort, they just released theirs first. PS4 Neo were just rumours at the time and both were probably in planning around the same time. PS4 Pro was officially announced in September 2016, and Scorpio was officially announced in June 2016.

Obscure_Observer2567d ago

@DigitalRaptor

"These developers didn't ask Sony or MS for mid-gen versions. They are not required to support anything. So the onus is not on them, but on the manufacturer."

You can try and defend the developers all you want. I´m tired of lazy devs blaming consoles for its limitations to excuse their bad optimized games. With the PS4Pro and Scorpio they can´t blame on hardware and they will have to WORK to prove their game is worth. Destiny 2 is just a trash game which uses OLD GEN TECH that relies on CPU bound tasks. You think PS4 Pro owners as fools? They know about BF1 which runs above 1080p at rock solid 60fps on the Pro, a game with bigger maps, bettter graphics, 32vs32 players count, more MP modes, heavy phisics, destructible environments, vehicles, ships, customizations and more, MUCH more. Are you willing to give Bungie a pass? Be my guess! You´re not a PS4 Pro owner anyway and will never be one. Keep on waiting your PS5.

"PS4 Pro was officially announced in September 2016, and Scorpio was officially announced in June 2016."

Wrong again!

http://pk.ign.com/andrew-ho...

http://www.ign.com/articles...

Check your sources!

Bigpappy2567d ago

Not sure about the Pro, but they did ask for the Scorpio. Go back and watch the reveal video again. Its on Youtube. They clearly sated about Scorpio "this is the console developers asked us to built" Then they showed Bethesda, DICE and Coalition talking about what they can do with it. So Scorpio will be supported. No doubt about that from where I stand.

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Nyxus2569d ago

I don't know how I should feel about this as a launch Xbox One owner.

Bigpappy2569d ago

Why? thee game still works on OG X1 just fine as it always have. All games will work better on the more powerful hardware.

Nyxus2569d ago

Yes, but giving Scorpio owners an advantage in multiplayer, that's what I'm talking about. For single player it's a different story.

donthate2568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

@Nyxus:

You may not have realized or heard, but it has already happened. Forza Horizon 3 and Gears 4 does it already. More will come and it's going to be glorious.

Death2568d ago

Games have been optimized for a very long time to level the playing field online for various configurations. The online advantage will be minimal at best and not a replacement for skill. I don't see a difference in how well I play Gears online on my gaming PC vs using my Xbox One. It's more fluid and crisp, but my kill counts don't seem to change much.

PlayableGamez-2568d ago

Sorry Nyxus but that's something you have take up with the dev's not MS. MS isn't going to dictate what devs should do with their games. So if dev's decide to give Scorpio owners an edge with higher frame rate, that's their choice and you should take it up with them. And it should be that way. It's funny because Sony is supose to be the company that allows devs creative freedom. But it's bad when MS allows it

The 10th Rider2567d ago

Honestly, if you're used to playing 30fps in a game and you're going against someone who is used to playing 60fps, the framerate is going to be pretty far down in terms of what determines whether you win or lose. Skill is still going to be, by far, the biggest factor in who wins. Even after that there's way more important things, such as internet connection. After that I'd say input lag is important as well. Unless you're a serious online gamer who has a TV with loooow input lag and motion blur and have your console hooked up to an Ethernet cable with a solid internet connection, the possibility going against someone playing in 60fps is a relatively small concern.

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JasonKCK2568d ago

You have had over 4 years with the launch console, and over a year of Scorpio news to get over it.

PC has been running games at various FPS for years, so just stop.

Nyxus2568d ago

4 years? The Xbox One came out here in September 2014.

JasonKCK2568d ago

"The Xbox One was released on November 22, 2013" And you claim you have one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... Where do you live China?

OMGitzThatGuy2568d ago

Still not "over 4 years". But you dont know what framerate your opponent is playing at so you cant really say there is no problem when there are no actual stats. We need leaderboards with average framerates included to see any patterns to decide.

Nyxus2568d ago

@ JasonKCK: The Netherlands, look it up.

Death2568d ago

OMG,

Your internet connection has a much bigger impact then anything else since speed and lag play a much larger part then how many frames per second someone is playing at. Your monitor or TV also has lag which can play a part in gaming.

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Gazondaily2568d ago

But PC gamers have been playing with Xbox owners and cross play has been no issue. You could easily limit the advantages by capping frame rate on mp modes etc.

TheColbertinator2568d ago

Exactly. Screw the original Xbox 1,time for Scorpio from here on out.

Death2568d ago

Software developers have been dealing with inconsistencies in hardware for decades. I'm not sure why Sony nerfed the Pro by forcing parity. They aren't new to online gaming so I can only believe it was a marketing move to keep their PS4 base from getting upset over nonexistent issues.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

@TheColbertinator
Developers are not going to simply ignore the 30 million Xbox One owners just to make games for Scorpio and it's niche/lower install base. You have to realize that right?

@Death
Sony didn't want standard/Slim PS4 owners to be left out or skipped over. See Colbinator's comment.

Death2568d ago

@hugs,

Then why even make or even buy the Pro if they are going to downgrade its performance to appease the people that don't own it?

Let's put things in perspective, I just bought a $700 GPU for my PC. If MSI nerfed it to 1050 specs to be "fair", why spend the extra $500 on the higher end GPU? Software developers found a way to level the playing field on PC many years ago. FPS is addressed in similar ways input lag and connection speeds were addressed long ago. This is why we see things like auto aim included in games, devs can use algorithms to determine what gamers are going to do before they even do them. This makes things like lag which is a much bigger factor a non issue. The FPS advantage people are complaining about is a made up issue by Sony either for marketing reasons or their inability to do what other devs have been doing for a long time.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

@Death

Just like Scorpio and PS4 Pro, developers aren't making exclusive games for your $700 GPU and there really is a simple reason for that which I have already stated above. No developer is going to ignore the core audiences on Standard PS4/PS4 Slim, Xbox One/Xbox One S, and the vast majority of PC gamers who have the equivalent of a GTX 970/RX 480 or weaker in order to make exclusive games for a few million gamers. It's the same reason why Activision, EA, and Ubisoft have not made AAA games for VR/PSVR.

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Death2567d ago

@Hugs,

Devs aren't making games exclusively for my 1080 GT, but the games sure look and play much better than they do on my older gaming PC. When devs target Windows 10, they are making a game that scales to the hardware being used.

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moegooner882568d ago

Pretty much screw original Xb1 owners at this point from MS perspective. They made it clear.

Raiden2568d ago

Idiotic fools, there will always be a fidelity issue between the 2013 and 2017 consoles, otherwise what's the point in the mid-gen refresh in the first place, the question is what do gamers prefer, frame rate or graphics, 2013 console owners need to understand that in some way they are going to lose out, question is on what?? At the moment pspro owners are wondering was it worth buying the upgrade console and for some it's a big fat hell yeah, but others feel cheated as there is nit much difference between the ps4 and pspro, but where there are no reported differences are in the frame rate, but in res there is, now Scorpio will have better frame and res than all the others, now for me frame rate is king in gaming, it's line between refresh rate and death, it's ok if the res makes the game look great but not when the frame drops bottlenecks and gets you killed, all game are capable of 60fps but that means the res most drop to allow this 720/900p @60fps with improve Dev kits would help greatly, also other developers that can do amazing things should be sharing this info which will help too, but at the end of the day no gamers are left BEHIND, none on ps4/X1, it's a choice to upgrade if you want, you are still getting that great game no matter the year of the console be it 2013/2016/2017

donthate2568d ago

No Xbox gamer left behind is the tag line so don't worry! You will be included, even if you able to resist the power of Scorpio. XD

Condemnedman2568d ago

Well nothing. time moves on and the games you pay on the xbox will still play the same so why should it bother you?

chrisoadamson2568d ago

I'm a day one owner and am delighted with this news. ps pro is a failure due to this parity bs. will be a day one scorpio owner too

Braveheart_NZ2568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

You should feel nothing. You have enjoyed your launch console over the years just like I have. I will now buy a Xbox Scorpio if I want higher frame rates and higher resolution in my games, just like I would upgrade any other device that I own, because it has got older, and something better with more advanced tech inside of it has come onto the market. It is your choice to do that or not, just like it is mine and for any other person out there. Your launch console, that you have had for years now, will still play the same games as the Scorpio, be it at a lower resolution and lower fps. Such is life.

Nyxus2568d ago

I haven't really enjoyed it all that much, but you're right, not much I can do about it anyway.

LexHazard792568d ago

Feel whatever way you want. At one point I was a launch Xbox One owner.
And Im ok with Scorpio outperforming the base model. Its suppose to be premium, it should do things the others cant even if you feel at a disadvantage.

_LarZen_2568d ago

There is zero multiplayer games on the PS4Pro that has a advantage in multiplayer. It's better graphics and more stable frame rate. It's not like on PC where it's like the wild west with some at everything from ~30 to 200 fps/Hz.

Death2568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

Someone should come out with a custom match making service that looks at multiple things like connection speed and skill level to determine which players should play in a match to keep the Wild West from happening. Maybe they could call it "Live" or something catchy like that...

Obscure_Observer2568d ago

@_LarZen_

"There is zero multiplayer games on the PS4Pro that has a advantage in multiplayer."

Yeah?

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

_LarZen_2567d ago

@Obscure_Observer

I'm well aware of BF1. The game is supposed to run at a 60 fps at all times on both the PS4 and PS4Pro. Something it is not on either consoles. DigitalFoundry reports the game is smoother and more responsive because of the extra power in the Pro. It has a 10-15fps advantage in some situations.

It's an advantage but it's hitting what both versions should run at.

So when we suddenly start talking about 30fps on one system and 60fps on a other you can only imagine what the headline would be and the outrage of console gamers being killed by owners with a 30fps+ advantage. It's not gonna happen. Not on consoles. Just forget about it already.

fathertime44642568d ago

You shouldn't​feel anything either way man. I'm a launch owner and an Appointment owner. I can't wait to see how the Scorpio takes advantage of my 4k TV. No difference than the launch 360 and then the upgraded elites​.

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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

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Christopher1d 1h ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack1d ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics7h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Christopher25m ago

If only PC games supported controllers more. Main reason I play primarily on console. So many games have shit support on PC. Playing Dark Envoy now, and it's quite frustrating since I have to switch to keyboard during cut scenes just to make sure advancing conversation doesn't also auto-select a decision. Let alone it's quite rough to select between characters and inventory screens are bad bad bad.

Anywho, similar complaints for both I find. But, I 100% agree that both PC and consoles should support both as best as possible.

Fishy Fingers23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan9h ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens529h ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

outsider16246h ago

I mean if there's 10 million pc gamers out there...getting atleast just 1 million from there is probably a good thing..right?

romulus233h ago

PC players are not a monolith, I don't know why people keep thinking they speak for the entirety of all PC gamers like they all know each other personally. You think out of the millions of PC gamers not one single person will be impatient?Well Sony is willing to bet there will be. Why would they do it now? People's feelings change and new PC gamers come along all the time that may also feel different about waiting, that's why.

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PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows906h ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

anast5h ago

"Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer."

Right here

Kakashi Hatake6h ago

PC gamers think tomorrow is promised. Sorry, don't have time for that.

Michiel19894h ago

it's not just about loyalty or sunk cost, pc is an open platform while consoles are closed platforms. If you for example want to mod, you will play on pc, no question about it. Also if you like indie games, steam is a fucking goldmine for that. I've been playing a lot of indie games over the last years and there just seems to be an endless amount of them on steam. Also not having games locked to a certain fps is a prettty big deal for me and I assume a lot of other pc players.

Walalon3h ago

And don't forget steam sales, you can get a ton of games on an awesome price.

romulus233h ago

And how do you know out of the millions of PC gamers that not one single person ever went ahead and bought a PlayStation console for one or more of those games? People keep speaking for the entirety of millions of PC gamers like they know them all personally. Here's one example for you, I'm currently typing on a recently purchased PC that cost me over twenty five hundred dollars and is more than capable of running any game including Sony exclusives that come to PC and yet I still bought a PS5 so apparently I'm not patient or loyal enough to my set up, hope it's not mad at me for not being loyal.

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helicoptergirl23h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan23h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

Amplitude35m ago(Edited 33m ago)

Astro Bot is the game that just did it for me. I'm gonna have to grab a PS5 again for that.

I did this for Ratchet Rift Apart too but ended up selling the PS5 after getting my plat. Rebought it on PC and other than GoW Ragnarok and Horizon FW (which eventually I could get anyway), I haven't had a reason to downgrade my graphics, controller features, ease of recording, and increase my game costs and monthly subscriptions throughout this entire generation.

I play on a TV with a controller but this has been the absolute worst console gen for both consoles. Never in my life thought I'd be a PC gamer but I've been spoiled by the cheap costs, cross-platform controllers and mostly the unbelievably useful Steam controller config.

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just_looken6d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty6d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken6d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty6d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken6d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0076d ago (Edited 6d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken6d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot6d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto6d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer6d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek6d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken5d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie5d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12086d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast6d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit6d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export6d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2036d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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