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What Does Microsoft Have To Do To Get You On Board This E3

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There is still not much we know about Microsoft's E3 conference. Microsoft will have a chance to change the narrative that has been haunting them for years. While at the same time sell us on their new hardware, the Scorpio. With the announcement that Halo and Gears won't be in the Xbox E3. This leaves the door open for fresh ideas and fresh IP at their conference. What does Microsoft have to do to sell you on the Xbox Brand?

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Bigpappy2956d ago

All they can do is what they are doing. Some will love it. Some will hate. Certainly cant please everyone.

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threefootwang2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

Show us Scorpio, show us it's design, show us a competitive price. Most of all, show us new games and/or IPs!

Revive some of there older exclusives, Mech Assault, I'm looking at yah!

Just upgraded to 4K this passing weekend, banking on Scorpio to being my go to 4K console of choice.

Make it happen MS!

Bigpappy2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

Now I have zero complaints with what you ask for. All sounds reasonable to me.

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RosweeSon2956d ago

It may well be just not anytime in 2017... console will launch great but games will be Xbox1/S games or just 360 games. Proper games will take a good 1-2 years to start coming through sure dev's have had details for last year or so but the true top end games like your God of wars at end of ps2's lifespan... these games take a while all launch games on any new console look alright, but give them a year or 3 and the games start looking sweet.

fatbastard112956d ago

Why would anyone consider a Scorpio over the PS4 when PS4 has WAAAAAAAY more existing quality exclusives as well as numerous great titles on the way consistently for the next couple years?..Just for 10% better graphics on multiplat titles??

Eonjay2956d ago

More games, less services.

UnHoly_One2955d ago

fatbastard11, for me it's because of the controller above all else.

The Xbox elite controller is the best controller ever made, and the Dualshock 4 is probably the worst.

That's just my opinion, but that is a big deal to me.

Also, I've been invested in the Xbox ecosystem since day one, been a Live gold member since day one, and all my friends play on Xbox. I have a PS4 to play things I can't play on Xbox, but that is all it ever gets used for.

UnHoly_One2955d ago

I think a nice surprise would be adding backwards compatibility for original Xbox titles.

indysurfn2955d ago (Edited 2955d ago )

Is that all it takes for them to get you? Seriously after trying to be the first company that takes away your ownership rights to software you bought?

Me on the other hand, at the very least they are going to need to go buy a good set of knee pads before they can
get me to have a good feeling about them again.

LastCenturyRob2955d ago

Why are you bringing login to N4G?

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Aceman182956d ago

If they want me to ever purchase one of their consoles again, how bout they show some damn exclusives that aren't halo, forza, and gears. While they're at it how about taking some f**king risks also with their IPs.

Like coming up with their own

Action/adv
Platformer
Rpg

Hell I'd even give them some respect if they came up with their own type Heavy Rain/Beyond style game. At least I'd know they are trying. If i don't see any of this at their presser lord knows the next time I'll ever buy one of their consoles.

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Aceman182956d ago

@native

I played and beat quantum break, and it was a total disappointment for me. I also played sunset overdrive and even though i love IG sadly this game couldn't keep me interested enough to continue playing.

I sold my X1 to a friend a few months after beating quantum break so this little lineup of games you rattled off isn't enough for me.

Also i loved my OG xbox, and the 360 was great the first few years until they went the kinect route. Don't sound so bothered that i want more from M$ when they are asking me to purchase their console.

343_Guilty_Spark2956d ago

They show other games apparently you just ignore them and peddle the same lies. Are they showing as many games as Sony no...largely due to nonexistent Japanese support but are they showing games? Yes they have shown them

CoinOrc2956d ago

@native

Ori and the blind forest is good but it's a two year old indie game. Sony has released many more indie games than MS. Sunset Overdrive is good but is a three year old game and they aren't making a sequel. QB, Recore, and Ryse are mediocre to just plain bad. I haven't turned on my Xbox One since I played QB last year. If they want people to get on board, then they will have to release a lot more quality exclusives.

Aceman182956d ago

@343

Oh sparky please list these so called games you're talking about that they've shown which is supposed to make me spend another 300-400 on their system. Quality tripA exclusives that they've shown.

LastCenturyRob2955d ago

Crackdown, Cuphead and Sea of Thieves aren't Halo, Gears or Forza.

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RosweeSon2956d ago

Cruise control isn't enough that's why they are where they are they need to do better and up their game.
Sure they can just continue to charge people to use Xbox live but if it's all going on elsewhere people not gonna pay it forever.

Raiden2955d ago

In Japan the home developers will always support there home format over the outsider, no matter how hard that COMPANY tries, its there honour system, no hardware manufacture stands a chance, the things is half of the Japanese games never make it to the west, we in the west love the Japanese style of gaming but not all is suitable or attractive to westerns but these dev's are loyal.

hulk_bash19872956d ago

Show me some compelling games that will justify making an investment in their new console. That is all they have to do to gain my interest. It always has and always will be first and foremost about the games.

UltraAtomic2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

Yea the fans like myself have been asking for new ips. soo I hope they impress with that.

Scorpio sounds amazing and if its 499 I think people will buy it, especially if they really show it off at e3.

rainslacker2956d ago

I'd say to get me excited they'd have to present more games that actually interest me. I know I"m only one person, but what MS has on show at the moment is truly weak in comparison to the other consoles. Even if you're into the games they have, I find it hard to believe people are content with it.

People would consider me a PS fan I'm sure, so the kinds of games that interest me are those that you'd find more of on PS. Not just the multi-plats, because those don't excite me in the same way, nor would they get me on board, but the exclusives that PS gets is what makes me continue to choose PS consoles every time. If MS can manage to start catering to a broader market, and actually delivering while struggling through the time where they build up the fan base that wants that varied content, then I'll be on board. Since I have an X1, I'll even support those games when they release. But things like CD3 don't interest me, and SoT interests me even less. I have no reason to support those, and I can't see those games lighting the fires under new customers to pick up a system.

New, fresh, and most of all exciting things are what gets people on board. Not overhyped mid-tier titles which people make into AAA level experiences.

QUIMICOMORTAL2956d ago

So having basically no meaningful exclusives this year has you on board?

That was easy!

notachance2956d ago

just show compelling games, lots of it.

by god if they spend most of it talking about scorpio and that new mixed reality games bullshit, say goodbye to new customers.

XanderZane2956d ago

Been on board since day one with every XBox game console. Own all 3 of them. Have over 180 games on by XB1 right now. Pretty much the same thing with the Playstation. Own every PS and still have them all. Easily over 500+ games on both platforms (literally). Can't be more on board then that. Sure I would love to see more exclusives and new IP's on the XB1/Scorpio over the next 2 years. Microsoft needs to make this happen ASAP. I'm not going to dump my system though, because they don't have all of this right now.

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chrisx2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

Surprise us with awesome looking games that Must all see the light of day. That's crucial. But with Phil spencers recents comments it might be dreams

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2956d ago

Did you forget that he said that single player experiences don't have longevity (for microtransactions) so it will be a hard sell to invest in those types of games. One of the few times he's actually been blunt and straight forward.

ninsigma2956d ago

I did actually forget about that tbh. Didn't read to much into those statements because I'm bored of articles being published everytime Spencer sneezes. But yeah not good statements because thats really what I dont want from my games. Stuff like Horizon is what I need and from its sales, a hell of a lot of people agree.

gangsta_red2955d ago

@Igivehugs

"...he said that single player experiences don't have longevity..."

Not exactly all what he said but even still how does that even remotely tie into what ChrisX said? Maybe you could explain more since he's now silent.

AngelicIceDiamond2956d ago

Yes please enlighten us on his recent comments. In other words I'll just wait till you make up on some BS out of thin air because that's what people like you do.

Here, this is what I heard recently from Spencer. https://www.gamereactor.eu/...

Spencer also talked about E3, which will provide what he calls the "next wave of big hits," promising that Microsoft will continue to invest in first party content in the future as part of this cycle.

But tell me what you heard LMAO

yomfweeee2956d ago

Probably that they are focused on services and he tried to put down games like Zelda and HZD... or did you forget about that?

Why o why2956d ago

Lol , c'mon angelic, I swear it was less than a month ago when he stated that. . It sure sounded like a downplay or maybe you think he was doing slight of hand tactics to lower expectations then BOOM. . . a slew of single player titles announced at e3 . . . Right. . . Lol

rainslacker2956d ago

Phil has promised several E3's where we'd see the next big wave....or best line up if you want....and didn't deliver.

For me, I believe in MS showing something before I'll accept that they actually mean what they say.

MS thinks CD3 and SoT will be the next big thing. But that doesn't mean that will be the case. So, I'd say that what Spencer considers the next big thing is much different than what I consider the next big thing.

CoinOrc2956d ago

He has been saying he will provide "big hits" for years now, and so far, he has failed to deliver. The last three years have all been the "best lineup in Xbox history" and it has been disappointing. I'll believe it when I see it.

gangsta_red2955d ago (Edited 2955d ago )

So is anyone going to actually answer our question(s)? In light of recent Phil comments how exactly does that not translate into not having great looking games that will see the light of day like ChrisX said?

Did Phil say he wouldn't be making games anymore? Was there any hints that the games we know nothing about wouldn't be any good because of Phil's statements?

You guys spend so much time attacking MS that you never actually stop to really see how ridiculous these comments are.

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4Sh0w2956d ago

Yeah they never quote him, and explain themselves, kids just repeat vague SDF talking points.

Patriot4Life2956d ago

What comment?

Oh you mean the one where people twisted his comment about single player games.

Trust me, Phil is going to bring the games at E3 and can't wait to come back here to see the madness after E3.

OB1Biker2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

No offence but I think Phil doesnt need help to twist his comments himself.
:)
You maybe right though in that people tend to spin what he says (good or bad btw). Probably his fault though as he knows what he's doing with the internet overblown coverage of that one personality.

OB1Biker2956d ago

I'm mainly interested in multiplat games from Ms conference and for once I'll be able to watch it live so I hope there s good stuff on that front. New hardware reveal is interesting to see even though I have no intention of buying.
Ultimately E3 is a gaming celebration for all gamers and there's no winner but just good stuff to see and look forward to.

gangsta_red2955d ago (Edited 2955d ago )

@ChrisX
So what recent comments did Phil say that would lead you to believe it's all just dreams?

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CyberSentinel2956d ago

Games. I would love Fable and Alan Wake sequels. At this point I'm only interested in the Gears 4 and Crackdown 3. Two games aren't enough for me to buy another system. I really like that elite controller and Scorpio has my interest, but I really need more games to make the plunge. Halo 6 is a hopeful successor, but I need to know more games are coming....

ninsigma2956d ago

No Halo 6 this E3 I'm afraid.

slate912956d ago

That's understandable. Thank you for a productive and meaningful comment.

Patriot4Life2956d ago

Lion Head didn't have the passion for Fable anymore and Remedy wanted to make a new IP over Alan Wake so you can't blame MS for that.

CyberSentinel2956d ago

I don't blame MS, I'm just saying there is only a few 1st party games that interest me. I'm not a forza fan, so maybe rare's new game will be interesting.

Why o why2955d ago

Ha. . The original cyber sentinel. . . .

N4g veteran. . .

Big up for the honesty. . Some people can't or won't accept the notion that a gamer may not like gears or uncharted therefore the more games available the better it is for a wider audience. You're not a Forza fan so that leaves slim pickings for Xbox guys as it stands now for exclusives but so what you state is perfectly logical. Luckily nobody can label you a Sony fanboy. .

The only thing I do disagree with is where a portion of the blame lies. . Ms just didn't build well off the back of the great momentum they gained last gen. My bad luck, management or complacency they've not kicked on . Maybe things can change for the better this gen after the half way point which was the total opposite to what happened last gen. It's not impossible

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ninsigma2956d ago

Just show new (and sequals) interesting games. It's all anyone has to do because that's what people want. It should hopefully be much easier for them to win people seeing as how they have more people with a device capable of running their games since they brought out the play anywhere scheme. I have no quarrels playing games from Windows store. Finally got round to Gears 4 last month and that was fine performance wise besides a few hitches when transitioning from gameplay to cutscene (gameplay wise very fun!) so just show me some interesting games and I'll buy.

as an extra though, wouldn't mind seeing any VR/mixed reality stuff they got cooking.

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rainslacker2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

This exactly. Last year, Sony finally figured this out to the point where that's all they showed. It was the best E3 show I've seen in a while, and the presentation just put it over the top. Sony even made COD interesting. I think it didn't have the megaton effect of the prior year, but the actual showing was spectacular.

I don't mind some hardware or feature talk where it's announced, or expanded on, but there are places where we can get that info that are more suited to get more facts than marketing than the E3 stage. The least amount of time should be spent on this kind of stuff as possible. Say what you have to say, then move on.

And mostly, stop trying to hype up one's features as somehow a game changer. Just announce, and move on. This goes for all companies where applicable.

Games are where it's at. It's where it was always at. It's where it will always be at. The more games, the more variety, and the more excitement, the more people get on board. People have been saying this forever, so maybe it's time all the console makers pay attention. E3 conferences are no longer press events. They're entertainment events where they are meant to directly market their wares to the consumer, and the consumer cares mostly about the games. All the hardware is irrelevant without games.

ninsigma2956d ago

100% agreed. I don't like when features and hardware take over most of the show. Xbox 2015 e3 was really guilty of that if I remember correctly. Last year was better but it just didn't have too much compelling content for me. Hopefully that'll change this year!

rainslacker2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

I've found any show that spends excessive time on any one thing, particularly hardware or features gets dull and drags on. Kinect Milo demo, Wonderbook, Move, Halolens minecraft demo, share play at the PS4 reveal, etc. It's cool to see the feature, especially when we don't know about it, but a lot of those things are only cool for a bit, and while you can see the feature, most people are smart enough to be able to figure out what is being shown, how it will benefit them, and if it's something they're interested in in the 2-3 minutes. If it's longer, it can make 5 minutes seem like 10, and you're just sitting there wondering when they're going to get to something good....even if you're interested in the feature. There's a reason that trailers are typically only 2-3 minutes long, and it's because that's all it should take to convey what you're trying to sell, and get the message across. If it takes longer, then you're trying to hard.

There are some exceptions when it comes to hardware, but those exceptions lay in the realm of conveying multiple aspects of the same hardware. Like Apple isn't going to sit there and spend 10 minutes on Siri to get their point across. But you get MS spending 5 minutes talking about football on X1, and then another 5 talking to some guy about football on X1, or they keep yammering on about TV connectivity, or Snap, and it gets tedious. That was a hardware reveal of course, so it's a bit different than E3, but the principal is the same, and why the perception of their reveal was that they only talked about TV, TV, TV, even though they did have some games and talked about how it all worked together.

An exception is gameplay demonstrations, because it can take time to show off different aspects of the game, but the good demos are the one's that show different aspects in small sections spread out over that time. Like with Horizon, you got to see some of the world and graphics presentation, then some simple stealth mechanic to take down an enemy, then some big action with a big guy coming in where it shows more depth of the combat. That can take more time, but it's parceled out over that time. If the entire time was spent on just walking around, or continuously doing the stealth stuff, or 6 minutes of fighting one of the big guys, it would get boring if you're not playing. UC demos did this a couple times, because of the pacing of the game.

Yi-Long2956d ago

Games.

We know Scorpio's specs are great, but a console also needs to have games, and while 3rd party multi-plats will be there, and I'm sure they'll be outstanding, XBO really also needs a wider variety of interesting exclusives.

Personally, I would also like to see the DLC-greed removed from a series like Forza (+ Forza Horizon).

Bigpappy2956d ago

So. No Hot-wheels? They is nothing wrong with expanding games with DLC. FH3 was a game with plenty of content upon release. Way more than Drive club. Some DLC is a rip-off of gamers. FH3 is not a good example.

ApocalypseShadow2956d ago

I think what Yi is saying pappy is that Microsoft acts like the typical American for profit company. Less effort but hoping for maximized revenue. They make more money than Nintendo and Sony combined. But put in the least amount of effort than Sony and Nintendo and don't even fund the Xbox brand. Xbox fans should want more games than more services.

Just like EA. EA puts in the least amount of effort but looks for maximized revenue. Or they try to buy the best engine they can get like Renderware or the Frostbite engine, then ride it to eternity until they buy some other company to do the work for them.

It's like Minecraft. Microsoft didn't buy Minecraft because it was an awesome game. Microsoft saw long term revenue streams from it. But that 2 **Billion**... That's billion with a *B*... Could have funded 10,20 or even 30 in-house games.

Sony got laughed at for 3rd party games going multiplatform during a recession with PS3. But now, Sony's laughing because their focus on in-house talent and advanced game engines then is paying off this gen. There no hint of Microsoft even trying to compete at that level. Or even starting.

As Yi said and has been said over and over, they need to start building studios and making more games. Gamers worldwide can see their lack of effort and that's why they never win. Why invest your money in a console manufacture that doesn't invest in making games? Making the console a second or third purchase before being the first?

AngelicIceDiamond2956d ago

"There no hint of Microsoft even trying to compete at that level. Or even starting."

MS, Phil Spencer to be exact has stated multiple times that they're evolving its first party he said it in a interview few months back, and stated it again in a press release. I've already posted a link the facts are there.

KickSpinFilter2956d ago

Driveclub had a shit load of really good DLC, one of the best supported games I've seen, but still did not save developer.

Why o why2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

Angelic. .
I like Phil but people say a lot. .

At the start of this gen there was speak of improvements. . At the end of last gen there was speak of improvements. . .we're fast approaching if not past the half way point of the gen and they still haven't got their act together.

Speak, speak speak. . Cloud, . Exclusives whatever. . .Some became reality, others didn't. . Best to wait and see as their track record especially after last gens coast in the final third and this gens cancellations and low output was/is enough for those not so believing to doubt their 'speak'. . Your optimism is commendable but your questioning of people's scepticism isn't. Please understand scepticism is not the same as blind hate. Yes, some troll but some don't see much positives from Microsoft.

freshslicepizza2956d ago (Edited 2956d ago )

@Apocalypse Shadow
"Sony got laughed at for 3rd party games going multiplatform during a recession with PS3."

They got laughed at because they expected people to have two jobs to buy a system that performed worse and offered an overly complicated platform that developers didn't like working on. Typical proprietary nonsense and Sony learned from those mistakes with the PS4 by making a easy to wrok on platform at a good cost.

"Making the console a second or third purchase before being the first?"

Once again your bias exceeds and your efforts to always portray Microsoft as the worst company keeps being challenged but you ignore it. Nintendo consoles continue to be a secondary purchase because of their lack of commitment to work with third party. So how can you write yet another essay which includes third party and not divulge that is beyond me. However this is all coming from the same person who tries to bluffs others by suggesting he hardly ever posts in Microsoft topics.

Microsoft does need to invest in their own studios more but that still isn't going to get you to change your views on the company which is the bigger obstacle for you and many others who continue to move goalposts as to why you wont support them. Phil has a lot to prove this year so we shall see.

ziggurcat2955d ago

@moldy:

"They got laughed at because they expected people to have two jobs to buy a system that performed worse and offered an overly complicated platform that developers didn't like working on..."

that's not what they said. they essentially said that the PS3 would be desirable enough that people would feel like working extra hours to be able to save up enough money. they didn't say they were expecting people to get second jobs.

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Gunstar752955d ago

I was more than happy to pay £16 for the hot wheels dlc. It's fantastic!!!

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Sony PS5 Era Profits Soar Past $13 Billion, Outpacing All Prior PlayStation Generations

Sony’s PS5 era has generated over $13 billion in profits, surpassing the combined earnings of PS1–PS4, with $136 billion in sales.

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lukasmain1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Their recent Playstation revenue is also more than Xbox and Switch combined, obviously in large part due to 3rd party sales.

Christopher1d 9h ago

I mean, if Sony is keeping third parties happy, kind of feels like a winning method.

GamingExplained10111h ago

I mean they have to, since they have 2 exclusives anyone cared about this generation, and those are now on PC. The rest is this creatively bankrupt string of remakes and remasters, taking advantage of the creativity of developers past efforts, and laying off teams creative side since all that work has been done already by previous teams.

By far the least creative generation ever.

lukasmain9h ago

@ Gaming-NEW-Troll account

"those are now on PC"

In that case. Xbox is Playstation's competition. MS have ZERO exclusives. ZERO. Nothing. Nada. Not a single exclusive.

Playstation has Astrobot. Demon's Souls, Astrobot Playroom, Gran Turismo 7, still not going to PC. They got Death Stranding 2 coming out in 3 days, NOT ON PC. Ghost of Yotei, not on PC.

That is 6 real exclusives MORE than Microsoft. Microsoft's Xbox is Playstation's competition. So lets compare.

I mean you brought it up.

Or does being "creatively bankrupt" not count when you have certain console exclusives going to PC years after they were released? In that case Returnal. Ratchet And Clank. Spiderman. Miles Morales. Silent Hill 2. And the list goes on

IRetrouk1d 5h ago

Kinda always been that way if you look at previous gens, exclusives are important but they aint the main revenue generator.

Reaper22_1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

.While that is impressive. Microsoft made 13 billion in one quarter. Making up facts doesn't make them true.

Mmmkay1d 4h ago

microsoft is not xbox. a bot should know that by now. you have been told this bs 1000 times on this site alone.

OlderGamer171d 1h ago

Yeah Microsoft but Xbox on the other hand.....

Aloymetal1d ago

Your defense of Microsoft is only highlighting Lord Phil's and the lame MS mismanagement. Since you're talking about MS as a whole, imagine having trillions in the bank and still losing to ''tiny'' Sony PS and Ninty. It doesn't get any more lame than that.

Christopher19h ago

If what Microsoft made as a whole was all that mattered, we would still have Windows Phones and Zunes. I would love to see Xbox' operating profits. Love to see it.

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thorstein1d 2h ago

I prefer Playstation over Xbox when it comes to consoles but how does this news justify their layoffs?

Shane Kim1d 1h ago

But the execs brother. You got to think about them. How could they otherwise buy yet another mansion and yacht?

raWfodog1d ago

People are generally paid for the work they are doing. Layoffs generally occur when there is no work for them to do (project cancelled, business slowing down, etc). I’ve been laid off from two jobs during my 40+ years of working so I know about these things. A company is not going to just keep paying people if there is no work for them to do, no matter how much profits they made.

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MIDGETonSTILTS171d 5h ago

And this is why the game output for ps5 has been a tad slower…

1) they needed to be… games take longer to develop, and they’d burn out their teams trying to maintain the same pace as ps3.

2) they can afford to… games cost more than ever to push boundaries, so Sony had to figure out a way to match Xbox’s clever profit strategies in order to afford to continue to innovate and take risks.

lukasmain1d ago

So much time was wasted on those Live Service shits. Glad they learned their lesson and have scaled that way back. Still haven't killed it, but I like it being in the background and not at the forefront

MIDGETonSTILTS1719h ago

Honestly, I love Helldivers 2 so much that I can forgive them for over investing in GaaS. At least they got one gem from the endeavor.

And I still dream of Factions releasing one day.

I don’t hate GaaS inherently, most are just implemented poorly.

Reaper22_1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

@ s2killinit

Thats xbox which includes other services. The playstion division also includes other services as well. Its mostly playtion but not all playstation. What's up with all the double standards around here.

Chevalier1d 3h ago

Yeah double standards like some idiots who got to talk about unrelated profits as a talking point. Wish those damn parrots could stay on topic with game related profits.

Next thing these idiots will talk about is something unrelated like Nintendo made more off the Mario movie than all of Xbox studios TV/movie endeavors combined you know?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Deathdeliverer1d 2h ago

@Chevalier

Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number.

“The sales of windows professional on the other hand trounces god of war sales” 😂

Reaper22_1d 1h ago (Edited 1d ago )

All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is. Tencent is no.1 in profits. Buts that's ok because unlike Tencent and Microsoft, Sony isn't in it for the money, right.🤔

pwnmaster30001d ago

That’s what Xbox fanboys do. They’ve been doing this since Xbox one.

They will use all of MS, one of the biggest company in the world and play it like every dollar they earn comes from Xbox just to one up PlayStation.
Is actually pretty sad.

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Chevalier1d 2h ago

"Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number."

Guys we're off topic here you know? Can someone bring us back on topic and tell us how much revenue Xbox studios does for movies and TV? Pretty sure we should also discuss how much Nintendo stands to make at Universal studios on Nintendo land and the rides should be a hot ticket this summer.

"Ouch! hahaha no wonder reaper wanna hide behind profits made by windows XD"

Yeah idiots with some sort of inferiority complex needs to get their win somewhere though. But wait shouldn't we get back on topic guys? Like seriously how much money do you think Fallout Season 2 will bring in?!

Reaper22_22h ago

Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts. At first the narrative was Microsoft isn't going to make the money back from the ABK deal to now their profits wouldn't be as high if they didn't get the deal. This very topic is part of the reason why the deal was secured. Sony's dishonesty and reluctance to tell the truth about how much money they're making and lying about how much this deal would hurt their business. That strategy failed. They're are making a lot of money. No doubt about it and its good for the industry but don't get butthurt when Microsoft post their profits and you guys see they are also making a lot of money as well.

CrashMania22h ago

@reaper.

Microsoft don't reveal Xbox profits, sales numbers, or gamepass numbers, I wonder why that is?

You call Sony dishonest but at least they don't hide and obfuscate meaningful playstation numbers like MS do with Xbox.

IRetrouk21h ago

Reaper stop lol, only one company hides that info and it ain't sony....

Chevalier1d ago

"All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is."

Nah all you did was confirm you're an idiot.

Reaper22_22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

You seem to be fluent in idiocy. Not everyone speaks it. So next time speak slowly and clearly so we all can understand. Getting emotional doesn't really make you smarter. Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says.🫡

Chevalier18h ago

"Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts"

🤡 What facts? 🤣

Please share with everyone your idiocy

What does Xbox make in revenue and profit? What are their sales? How much money does Gamepass cost them? Oh right you got ZERO numbers to post.

"Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says."

Says the idiot who can't even tell the difference between Microsoft and Xbox? Lmao. Seriously all you're showing everyone again is how much of an uninformed parroting idiot you are.

But go ahead and post your evidence! Oh right again ZERO from a ZERO. Absolutely 💯 hilarious to see you stumble like the idiot you are.

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Npugz71d 3h ago

Only because of games prices otherwise it’s the worst generation in PlayStation history especially for games

Reaper22_1d 3h ago

Thats true. The article did mention game and prices were a reason. Its also shows their greed is no different than Microsoft. Laying off all those people but yet bragging about profits and still tried to stop ABK deal. What the hell!

MatrixxGT1d 3h ago

Closing studios, layoffs, leadership changes, PS plus increases, multiple game cancellations and delays, total flops like concord. Slowest release of first party games of any generation and they just shut down PS stars I guess because it was costing to much.
Yet they announce record profits…..the greed here is insane, MS and Nintendo too. All of them milking gamers and we just keep lapping it up like a blood hound for a meal.
Them tariffs are really hitting them hard I see.

Deathdeliverer1d 2h ago

Well a part of running a business is a tight grip on that P&L sheet. In project management. It’s a known fact that the farther into a project you go, the more costly the corrections. Having something reach the definition of done, the end of the road, and it’s hated is a monumental loss of money. As games are usually made iteratively it’s like how was this not caught and course corrected several times before this point. Sony is definitely known as trusting and allows teams to make the games they want to make. They “trust the process”. The caveat to that big budget and freedom is if it bombs, especially if it’s your first game, you’re outta there. They have shareholders/stakeholders to keep happy. Where as normally a done game like Concord would give ROI as it was out in the wild. The cost of the project is recouped and turned into profit or delivered whatever value they wanted. If the game is now NOT coming out, how do they get that money back and stay profitable? By not paying wages for that team over a course of time that would have still been on payroll working on the next potential bomb, DLC for a dead game, and essentially costing more money.
It sadly isn’t greed, it’s business. They release these great profits because 1) it’s enticing for more stakeholders to invest, and 2) Despite failures they are still balancing the books and turning record setting profits.
How many live service games died at various stages of development? They are still this profitable? Imagine if the games came out and were hits to add onto the profits?

Christopher19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

So, you're saying that over $10B of this is from $10 to $20 software price increases? Zero to do with increased market reach? Massive MTX from third-party games?

Vithar1d 3h ago

where are the "Sony is in trouble" sayers? LOL

Chevalier1d 2h ago

They're talking about Microsoft quarterly profits like any true gamer would be doing.

Aloymetal1d ago

Oh, that's coming, it's a mandatory thing just wait for next gen and you'll see infinite articles from the shills and the green fanbase saying ''tHiS GeN WiL Be dIfFerEnT''

stonecold316h ago

over twitter xbox fanboy you tube are saying saying sony is broke cant afford warner bros.

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