Microsoft Promises Mixed Reality Games at E3 2017; Gives First Look at Intriguing Xbox Application

On the BUILD stage, Microsoft teased Mixed Reality games on show at E3 2017, and gave a glimpse on something interesting.

[freshslicepizza]

Controllers look nice but the headset probably can't compete with Oculus and HTC, comparable to PSVR I would say but the price is nice.

[Muadiib]

I've used a Rift and a PSVR and the latter had the much better headset despite the lower resolution.

[PlayableGamez-]

It already does with it's price.
Aesthetics may not be impressive, but that price sure is.

[christocolus]

@Moldy

Actually for Windows Mixed Reality Headsets

FOV is a bit smaller but Res is higher

PSVR = 1080*960 per eye
Oculus & Vive = 1080*1200 per eye
Acer & HP WMR = 1440*1440 per eye

[LexHazard79]

What I like about the MS compatible MR is there will be options. You're not tied to just one set. The prices are suppose to be pretty sweet too..
This is good overall for VR and those who support the movement.

[iNcRiMiNaTi]

Hopefully it'll be compatible with steam and not exclusive to the games they release on their windows store like they've been doing with alot of their games.

[Eldyraen]

Well Acer is just one headset and an affordable bundle to get people started. The controller itself is designed for use with other companies in mind as well (HP for example is another but not shown as a bundle as far as I've seen).

[LexHazard79]

Moldy believe it or not the MR headset has better specs than PSVR.

[DigitalRaptor]

These are LCD. PSVR are OLED. https://twitter.com/kentbye...

Nice try though - looking forward to more of your fantastic comparisons.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Things are going to get interesting for VR and AR with a new player joining in. From Facebook, Valve and Sony having or are creating VR social places to gather, play and talk about games. Looks like Microsoft might have one too.It's good for gamers getting Scorpio.

The question underneath it all is "what about the 25-30 million current and future Xbox one owners by this fall?" Will they get at least one of these headsets to join in on the fun?

Maybe one of the huge surprises at E3 is that they will have current Xbox one support. Goes against the previous "high fidelity" talk. But, since they removed those words from their website
https://gamerant.com/xbox-s...
Maybe that means VR is coming to current owners which will be good for everybody from developers to gamers. And "high fidelity" VR will be on Scorpio. Also, no need for Kinect as tracking is built into the mix reality headsets. Since Acer's headset costs $399 with Microsoft's controllers, maybe that's why Sony is now including the camera with PSVR for $399. Who knows. Maybe the move controllers might be tossed in too by the fall.

E3 will be interesting. I think that's the megaton surprise as Phil can't leave those Xbox owners out of the picture. Wouldn't be right. That's my prediction.

[freshslicepizza]

@Apocalypse Shadow
"The question underneath it all is "what about the 25-30 million current and future Xbox one owners by this fall?" Will they get at least one of these headsets to join in on the fun?"

Doubtful but what do you care? Are PS4 pro owners going to play Fallout 4 in VR or will they be held back by Sony's parity clause just like how Driveclub was in VR that had to have serious concessions put into place like less cars onscreen at once? This is something you should be more concerned with since you know, you own the device and not an Xbox One.

The Xbox One was never marketed for VR and it's even less powerful than the PS4, I would imagine the experience wouldn't be that great.

[andrewsquall]

So now all of a sudden Bethesda are the most insane elite graphical technological geniuses of all time and build a brand new Fallout experience form the ground up for GDDR5 architecture. Sure moldy, whatever you say lol.
Its the GDDR5 PS4 that will be holding back Fallout VR and not the very developers themselves like they ALWAYS do with their games.

Why do you ALWAYS bring up this VR "parity clause" when NON VR Scorpio "exclusives" are going to be suffering because of the "parity clause" Microsoft has with the disgustingly dated 2004 ddr3 Xbone console???
I mean does VR mean THAT much to you? Why is it the end all now all of a sudden? Its sounds like its the game changer for you at E3 you've brought it up so much.

[ShadowKnight]

@andrew

Yup

[freshslicepizza]

@andrewsquall
"So now all of a sudden Bethesda are the most insane elite graphical technological geniuses of all time and build a brand new Fallout experience form the ground up for GDDR5 architecture. Sure moldy, whatever you say lol.
Its the GDDR5 PS4 that will be holding back Fallout VR and not the very developers themselves like they ALWAYS do with their games."

Well over 7.5 million PS4 owners bought the game so it would be a shame if Sony's parity clause is what's keeping it from coming at least to PS4 pro owners. Todd Howard already stated it needs good horsepower to run in VR at the Scorpio reveal.

@ShadowKnight
"He's hilarious ain't he"

What's even more hilarious is watching you and the rest of your clan run around acting like Scorpio is no big deal and how meaningless Scorpios power while you buy your expensive PC hardware. Don't worrry, you can always go into Fallout 4 VR topics in the future and tell everyone how you are playing it on your PC. Then put on your Hyde suit and tell everyone how fun Star Trek Bridge Crew is in PSVR topics without ever muttering a word about your PC.

[Goldby]

Moldy

Just stop with the hate already.
You say that fallout VR can't be run on the pro due to parity clause.
1-fallout ain't that good at least 4 isn't that good.
2-if the ps4 can't handle it there goes the "no one left behind" for Xbox as the one users won't be able to play it. Personally I wouldn't want to separate my users into people who can play if they buy a headset and people who can't play even if they buy a headset.
3beyond what seems to be your beliefs. There's more than just fallout available on ps4. I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Why not talk about how awesome the metrics are gonna be for ms when VR comes out. 3 million VR users sitting in a drivers seat last year. 5 million people throwing up in VR while suffering from rad poisoning

[DigitalRaptor]

I love the persistent double standards coming from moldybread.

A couple of days ago he complained about "trolls", and it's so funny to see him continuing to use your comments as a springboard to troll on Sony and PS4 Pro etc even though you left a comment that barely even mentioned Sony or the PS4. It goes to show that he's just got it in for you mate, and his replies to you are opportunities for him to try and ease out some kind of hypocrisy - but all that does is backfire on him.

This dude is just undeniably insecure, and hypocritical, and well... I could go on but you get the idea.
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@ Goldby

Smashed him right in the bullsh*t with some insane logic there. 👍
Another exposure in the satchel.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ andrewsquall

Look at how he just cherry-picked your comment and ignored the entire second paragraph that exposes his hypocrisy levels. He called out Sony fans for "cherry-picking" parts of comments in the past. Insane lack of self-awareness in this individual.
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@ moldybread

"Something you should be more concerned with since you know, you own the device and not an Xbox One."
- You've been more "concerned" with PS4 (without actually owning it) than most on here.

1) There wasn't a strong Xbox-centric attitude to the reveal of these "Mixed Reality" headsets.
2) Microsoft even updated the description to remove the mention of "high-fidelity VR" from their official Scorpio detail page ( https://gamerant.com/xbox-s... ), so I'm not sure where your level of confidence about Scorpio actually being able to handle these uncompromised AAA high-end games like you keep on suggesting.

[ShadowKnight]

I'm sure they'll talk about this a lot at their press conference

[gangsta_red]

"While it wasn’t mentioned by name and no further details were provided, it could be a prototype or a concept visualization of the “Metaverse” mentioned yesterday by Xbox Division Head Phil Spencer, allowing gamers to actually interact with their friends’ avatars in a mixed reality space over Xbox Live."

The Lawnmower Man is finally here.

[Eldyraen]

Sea of Thieves? It could be a cool VR social play title imo.

[LexHazard79]

Guess the idea of playing a pirate game in VR is getting some sea sick!

[Gazondaily]

Haha it's the SALT water 😂

[Pancit_Canton]

I think this is just going to be another Kinect for MS. They just don't have developers or studios to support that thing. They couldn't even support the regular xbox one with games, yet alone this one. I don't even think the Xbone is VR ready for those 30 million owners.

[LexHazard79]

Kinect sold more than PSVR..😂

[candystop]

And "Move" plus had many many games!

[goatking]

By over 20 million, but it was cheaper, and seems a bit more mainstream, and psvr still can still get some great sales(its done decent so far), but it won't get huge numbers at its current rate.

[Pancit_Canton]

You mean by forcing consumers and lying that it's a mandatory peripheral.

[TheUndertaker85]

@Pancit_Canton: Kinect was manadatory?

Oh, you mean Kinect 2.0 which is no longer mandatory.

Sorry to burst that bubble but Kinect 1.0 outsold PSVR & Move. Even with four year old figures.
https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

Moreover it has been stated they don't expect more than 10% of the user base to buy PSVR.
https://www.polygon.com/201...

[DigitalRaptor]

His comment is about development and games.
Not about how many soccer moms were won over by Oprah Winfrey's ringing endorsement. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Kinect never had a Resident Evil 7 moment in its entire tenure.
While PSVR had that moment in it's 4th month on the market.

[Vasto]

This will be sooo much better than PSVR

[ShadowKnight]

Just like you said Xbox exclusives will be

[Vasto]

Dont hate,

You know PSVR has flopped just like PS4 Pro.

Now they want to say Dynamic 4K. What a joke company.

Project Scorpio is our exclusive. ROFL

[candystop]

Until Sony embraces full online competitive/social gaming, they will always be held back with limited experiences. This E3 Sony is going to quite possibly join Amazon or Azure servers to finally get on-board. This will be a win for gamers and developers pushing for cross play as one example!

[DigitalRaptor]

Indeed.

So much better that the experts are already saying otherwise: https://twitter.com/kentbye...

😂😂😂

[sampson3121]

How about some F-ing GAMES lol, is that too much to ask for?
I don't own an Xbox and the main reason is the lack of F-ing games.

Get your shit together MS.

[gangsta_red]

"Microsoft Promises Mixed Reality GAMES at E3 2017"

That is actually in the title of the story believe it or not. I can see how you might have missed it though, it was hidden behind words.

"I don't own an Xbox..."

Really?

[sampson3121]

"Mixed Reality GAMES" sit in a imaginary room with your boyfriends playing patty cake?

that's a joke right? i read it just fine. HOW ABOUT SOME REAL GAMES. GOD OF WAR, THE LAST OF US 2, HORIZON ZERO DAWN, and on and on and on.....

MIXED REALITY? lmfao.

xbox really trained it's customers for mediocrity eh? lol

Hey i know, they will announce more old games that can be played on the Scorpio... wow!

[candystop]

"HOW ABOUT SOME REAL GAMES. GOD OF WAR, THE LAST OF US 2, HORIZON ZERO DAWN, and on and on and on..... "

MS has real games and more coming! With Xbox you also get tons of replay value unlike your 1 time experiences. Where have you been I wonder. You mention one new game that released and ignore any and every Xbox game thats released and soon to release. There seems to be a false misguided and misinformed focus from the Sony crowd. Xbox has games even though they went through a slow year like every company goes through.We have huge titles coming this year and more....Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2.....huge games that will keep us occupied for months. Don't worry so much.....stay with your PlayStation. ;)

[sampson3121]

@candystop: "Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2.....huge games that will keep us occupied for months"

that's a joke right?

you haven't had a real AAA game since last year and you hope these three games will launch this year right? when was the last time you seen any footage or pictures of Crackdown 3? you really think Sea Of Thieves will be that go to game? only game i would expect to come out this year and i would buy is State Of Decay 2.

for some reason you guys were offended that i called out MS for not "MAKING F-ING GAMES", shouldn't it be you guys complaining? and that's what i mean by "xbox really trained it's customers for mediocrity eh? lol "
because you defend their shit when you haven't had a AAA exclusive for the Box since last year and only 3 games that might come out at the end of the year.

Phil Spencer talks about games as a service, think about that for a minute.

I'm not trolling.

I want Xbox to come out guns blazing with games because it's good for the industry and will keep Sony in check.

read my initial comment again, and this time understand i am on the side of the gamer.

[sampson3121]

"That is actually in the title of the story believe it or not."

It's not a "story" it's an "article".

[gangsta_red]

You wouldn't want to play pattycakes with your boyfriend?

"HOW ABOUT SOME REAL GAMES. GOD OF WAR, THE LAST OF US 2, HORIZON ZERO DAWN, and on and on and on..... "

I don't think those games will ever appear on Xbox.

"MIXED REALITY? lmfao."

I laughed out loud too, so great right?

"xbox really trained it's customers for mediocrity eh? lol "

I guess Sony is giving out masters in douchebaggery, congrats.

[sampson3121]

"I guess Sony is giving out masters in douchebaggery, congrats."

No, just great games.

[81BX]

Sorry I'm late but Sampson.... congrats on your masters. You seem very proud and worked really hard on it😉

[opinionated]

I really don't want another vr headset... i can see why Microsoft is jumping on the wagon but it doesn't interest me. I hope more support comes for the PSVR and the main focus of Xbox turns to pushing out good content.

[Tko1111]

Why do Sony fans continue to flood ms /Xbox forums? I am intrigued.

[Bobafret]

It's what they do, 22 years and counting.

[81BX]

It's more out of habit at this point. I'm sure most are embarrassed by their actions, but they just can't help themselves.

[Tussin187]

I mentioned this awhile ago MS. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Now watch the diehards jump all over this when they've been bashing PSVR.. Now we're going to have VR wars. Great.....

[kstuffs]

That's because MS was playing a waiting game for their HoloLens tech to catch up. MS vision for VR is inside-out tracking (no need for external camera) and wireless connection. MS already has the inside-out tracking nailed with HoloLens now they just need wireless VR to work. Guess who just bought a wireless VR solution? That's right AMD! Combine those two and you have VR the way it's supposed to be. Not only that, MS VR will also be compatible with all Windows 10 PC and laptops in the future. You have a single VR solution that works on all MS platforms. That's a HUGE incentive unlike the PSVR that can only do PlayStation.

[81BX]

Well Tussin you're always going to have that issue with both sides. That's just the way life goes. Hopefully we avoid the next step in conficts... vr wars lol

[ElementX]

I think Scorpio will be even easier to port PC games to. I think if MS and another company release a headset, more of the indie VR titles will be supported.

[Yohshida]

Nooooooooo
Dont waste time on dead tech, thanks.

[PcRandy]

They said they are doing a Mixed Reality MMO and if the rumours are true Fallout 4 VR is exclusive to MS
I think if the Scorpio has the ability to use all of top line VR headsets that I think it will then that could help the platform move forward and in turn probably help the PSVR as well more competition is always good it'll only improve the VR ecosystem

[notachance]

damn, if the majority of their E3 is wasted on this and scorpio it's gonna be a borefest for sure

[gamer7804]

i REALLY hope they don't focus on this (VR, MR, etc) too much. I just want real traditional new IPs.

[ifrit_caress]

Great, another project Microsoft will be cancelling because they are too impatient to wait a whole development cycle of a game.

[Father__Merrin]

Can I remind everyone Xbox MR will require Scorpio...
Psvr works on standard PS4 and PRO4...
Xbox one owners are getting nerfed...

Still, love to see Mr in action, it's likely cheap headsets get released

[joab777]

This is what I always wanted PS Home to develop into. Having heard about VR etc., I thought that Sony could evolve it into an application that allows players to hang out virtually, like a virtual Facebook (which will be a thing someday...god help us!)

But this is cool...and could be a seller if marketed and priced right. It's a big step and people will take to it.

[DAEMONIFEAR]

People don't realise that ms have more then just the scorpio to reveal at e3 they have some very big things in play! Don't believe all the silly media click baited hype ms are and have been doing very well! I'm excited for e3 ms will be great and Sony should have a decent show too!