PlayStation LifeStyle pits the PS4 Pro against the Xbox Scorpio in this Specs Showdown.
Obvious flame bait! This would be no different than comparing 1st party exclusives.
Which people do ALL the time.
Gee, I wonder if the box with the better specs will outperform the box with the specs that aren't as good? Better make an article to find out.
I wish people would take specs and shove them up their as*. No one talks about the important part when it comes to gaming, only specs. When has specs won console wars?
True, but until Scorpio actually releases we simply aren't going to know which console tastes nicest.
unless the spec's are better on the one you own?
Unlike you and your friends, specs hardly come up in my conversations concerning gaming, so you can throw that little shade of yours somewhere else.
Unless the exclusives are better on one or the other. We know which one will have better exclusives at a lower console price. That be Sony
@ Silly gameAr: "When has specs won console wars?" PlayStation 4... they didn't have a large number of good exclusives at the beginning. ps4 had Resogun & Killzone... xbox had Killer Instinct & Titanfall. even though xbox had better exclusives, that wasn't enough. sony fans bought ps4's in droves because of a slight resolution advantage. so they surely didn't get their big head start & win the generation based off of games.
You think it was the specs that put the PS4 ahead? I'm pretty sure it was MS's missteps and the PS4's price that did the job along with a few other things. If you believe that it was only specs, then maybe you should work for MS because you're just as misguided as them.
Titanfall was not a launch title.
@ meatnormous: i never said it was. it was out in the 1st year. ms still had more & better exclusives in the 1st year than PS4. which makes what i said still true. so whats your point?
Actually I bought it for Sony's exclusives as did all my friends who game. Not one of us were like oh wow it can do 1080P or whatever. We got it for games.
@hardiman maybe you didn't but about 20 mill casual gamers did, look at ps4 console exclusive sales the numbers greatly reflect that, lets take hzd for example great game but to ship about 3 million copies out of 60 million consoles to me is a flop no matter how good the game is, no matter how good you guys claim the exclusives are they really don't sell console's like you think they do and that goes for Microsoft and sony.
No it was Microsoft's dumb arse policies and higher price that drove gamers away. Lack of exclusives didn't help either. Specs helped, but we're not the deciding factor to lead the demise of the xbox one.
Better exclusives is subjective, unless you want to go to metacritic as a basis for this. In which case, Sony had better exclusives, and more of them to boot.
No single factor is the only reason the PS4 has sold well, but you're delusional if you don't recognize that the better performance and lower price were huge factors in the PS4's success.
But you are making a fuss about them right now! Specs do matter. They are just not the only factor that matters.
3 years ago thats what gave ps4 such a Hugh lead, but i agree developers need to evole gameplay, mechanics, ai, collision pathing etc..
For the first 2 years of this generation, all that was talked about was specs and how one console would run games better than another. So obviously it was important then
Maybe on N4G, but everyone that owns a PS4 doesn't come to N4G. You guys let it get under your skin so much, that MS had to try to clean the slate and try to start the next early.
Spec Showdown? Scorpio is more powerful in every way...
I care about games, not specs.
I care about both. Unfortunately Xbox only has one of those covered.
That's funny cause I'm playing games on my xbox right now
Really, Microsoft has both covered? That's funny, because I've heard plenty of people wondering where the games are.
I care about specs because I care about games. I care about enjoying games at the best graphical quality and with the smoothest framerates possible. Better graphics help make a game more immersive and help to remove visual artifacts that would otherwise distract me. Better framerates also help a game look better by making the animation smoother and increasing the temporal resolution which makes things less blurry during movement (and games are almost always in movement). Higher framerates also improve input latency and controller response. It's not an either/or choice. I love games and by extention I care about how they look and run. All platform have games. The PC has more good games than I could ever hope to play in three lifetimes. But as for the games I do have time to play, I prefer to play them at the best quality possible to me.
To me, specs are only sprinkles on a cake. Games always came first. That's why the PS4 is dominating. Disagrees don't change what I said.
It's interesting, you can apply the same comment you wrote to the PS5 when it arrives in few years from now, which will replace Scorpio as the best place to play, again. Third party only.
The pendulum will keep swinging back and forth every 3 years now.
The comment "it's all about the games" is something you hear often when there is a discussion about Xbox vs PlayStation. And I agree. It's all about the games. And basically every game except PlayStation exclusives will from the launch of Scorpio be better on it. Big AAA games like Destiny 2, Call of Duty WW2, Star Wars Battlefront 2, and Red Dead Redemption 2 will all be best on Scorpio. I perfectly understand that many who owns a Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and Pro are satisfied with what they already have. But both PS4Pro and Scorpio are made for the type of gamer that I am. I want the best possible console experience to go along with my 4K HDR TV.
"Versus - PS4 Pro vs Scorpio Specs Showdown" Let's do a games and exclusives showdown.
"Let's do a games and exclusives showdown." And then do a: does it matter that every game besides PS exclusives will be better on Scorpio?
@ MadPandaSkills: and then lets do a features, services & consumer friendliness showdown. checkerboarded faux-4K, no 4K blu-ray drive, wildly overpriced PS2 hd re-releases, PS1 & PS2 games STILL not on PS Now despite how expensive it is, an expensive subscription fee to play old games you already own, 10 years in & you STILL can't change your PSN username, online service isn't stable or secure & is vulnerable to data theft & goes down for maintenance often, ps plus you don't get to keep ANY of the games while Gold lets you keep the 360 games forever (you get 2 per month) no EA Access, god-awful phone customer service, no digital refunds, no "play anywhere" PC equivalent, no official Sony branded Elite controller equivalent... i could go on & on...
Don't worry psnow is failing so bad by time ps5 comes out that will be one of the selling points they brag about, then i bet digital refunds are coming prolly around e3, you can't change your names because psn is so generic and built off a browser psp service i remember reading about this about a year ago when Gregg and Colin asked shu.
There is no "showdown". Scorpio is better in every way. There's no way to spin the specs in Sonys favor.
Sure there is; half precision floats. Cerny proclaimed PS4 Pro can hit 8.8 Teraflops by executing 16bit floats in tandem. Scorpio can't doesn't support that feature so it'd still operate at 6Tflops. I'm actually surprised that doesn't get banded about round here. It isn't all that significant, but it is the only straw to grab at (besides the "we don't count games that release on PC!" idiocy).
Single point precision yes, double-rate (executing 2x16bit floats in tandem in place of a 32 bit float) is new, and not supported by the Scorpio as per the Digital Foundry deep dive with Microsoft. So no, Microsoft can't make the same claim about 12TFlops being achievable. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... "According to Goossen, some performance optimisations from the upcoming AMD Vega architecture factor into the Scorpio Engine's design, but other features that made it into PS4 Pro - for example, double-rate FP16 processing - do not. However, customisation was extensive elsewhere. Microsoft's GPU command processor implementation of DX12 has provided big wins for Xbox One developers, and it's set for expansion in Scorpio. In reality it means very little, but I am still surprised Sony fans haven't latched onto it. I like to think they're too mature, but more likely they just missed the fact.
I'm genuinely excited to see what Microsoft's first party studios will be able to achieve on Scorpio. I wanna see their developers being allowed to branch out & take real risks with their games. Scorpio definitely has the power advantage, and that's to be expected. Just bring new/interesting "exclusive" games to your console, Microsoft. Much love to all =)
"Scorpio has better specs but PlayStation has the games" - every PS Scorpio by PS WEBSITES
*SPOILERS* Sony wins, if you aint got games you aint got d**k
Well it is also released a year and a half later,.. One would think newer components should be significantly better.
Still think it's funny they pretty much waited until they knew 100 percent what the pro specs were to really put this thing together. Anyone that thinks otherwise is wrong. Look how long it's taking them to get it out after the pro launch. Just to be able to say they have the power advantage because in their minds that's what killed them. Personally I think it was and is the massive library of the PS4 compared to XBOX.
Why are we doing this, everyone knows Scorpio has the better specs, everyone also knows specs dont make a console successful.
Herpa derp what a pointless comparison when the better spec console is obvious.............Ouya
Yes in the beginning it was all about specs remember 900p vs 1080p for all third party games or xbox can't even xbox graphics sucks no the table has turned its not about specs its about games we should read each other post and see who actually said those things fact xbox Scorpio will be better in power and graphics when ever xbox make new games people try to downplay them no matter what they make all I can say is I'm ready for the Scorpio bring it on
The console with less powerful specs will have advanced game support, while still being very respectable, at a way better price. Ps4pro has them beat with great looking games and lower price
So far the parts about Scorpio that have impressed me aren't the specs by themselves, it's all the optimization that was put into the box. It was built specifically around DX12, allowing the GPU to do things now in roughly a dozen commands what used to take 1000's of commands, how easy it is for devs to upgrade and adapt their games, how the power load of each individual Xbox is monitored and adapted to, how they had been running several extremely detailed simulations before ever even creating the box...which has almost eliminated all bottlenecks. The specs are nice and all, but raw power is nothing if it doesn't work well....Scorpio seems to be dominant on all fronts.
Why is it that when I upload stuff like this, it gets taken down but everyone else can post it?
I hope people realize that well over 95 percent of consoles sold this gen will be original PS4 /X1 making this constant comparison nearly a waste of time.
Again the real diference between the Pro and the Scorpio wont be big. That would only happend with combo rysen and Vega. It will be funny to see in the end of 2017, when the scorpio comes out, the comments here. I think many are thinking the diference is between the original PS4 and the Scorpio. That the scorpio is 3 or 4 times more powerfull then the PRO. The Scorpio is more powerfull, but if 3rd party studios will fully use the power is also something that we dont know.
That's all true bro. But it's not gonna stop the Xbox fans screaming from the hilltop. Just scroll right past all the comments from the trolls instead of engaging it. There really isn't a huge difference between Ps4 and Xbox now. The Xbox crowd feels very burnt by it all though. So they need to be able to say they got more power. It's like that PC mentality of buying a new GPU every year when it doesn't make a ton of difference. It's all in the developers hands. I have a pro and 4k in my living room. I also have a PS4 and 1080 in my bedroom and im still blown away by GG and what they did with horizon ZD on my 1080. Sony really has some of the most talented developers in the gaming world.
If the Scorpio has no interesting XBO exclusives to play on it with a high price tag the only ones buying one will be the fanatics & diehards while most folks will be going to the PS4 for their interesting fun diverse exclusives.
Why are they comparing a mid gen upgrade to a new gen console.
I think microsoft are going to come out strong this e3. Just a feeling I may need a Scorpio to accompany my ps4.
Calling it now. A year later, more expensive, and identical visuals. Another win for Sony.
lol identical visuals dream on
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