Project Scorpio: Can Microsoft bring the fight back to Sony's doorstep?

Praise for Scorpio's specs is universal, but in many ways that's the easiest part of this journey; MS must now start answering the truly tough questions.

[Gaming_Cousin]

With the way they handle games... hell no

[HaveSumNuts]

Its just like having a girlfriend with no boobs or ass...... there aint nothing to play with.

[Kingthrash360]

I mean you can turn her on....and play with her...but all she does is talk about her past generation relationship instead of focusing in the current relationship.

[LastCenturyRob]

yeah, after reading your comment it is hilariously obvious that you have probably never talked to a girl let alone have a girlfriend...Go back to your dating sims, kid.

[Gazondaily]

^^Lmao 😂🤣

[freshslicepizza]

@Kingthrash360
"I mean you can turn her on....and play with her...but all she does is talk about her past generation relationship instead of focusing in the current relationship."

would you rather have an open relationship that is more about choices or a relationship that has you on a leash and is co controlling that all you can do is talk smack about the other girls?

[pinkcrocodile75]

That's when you realise you're dating another man.

[TheKingKratos]

Lol that had me laugh so hard my sides hurt

the problem with Microsoft that instead of supporting their main console with games they went and made a sooo much more powerful console
power wasn't really the problem with Xbox one (it's one of it problems though atleast base ps4 is pumping cgi like graphics just fine so pro wasn't really needed)
it problem was the lack of xbox exclusives and new ips.

[DrumBeat]

Seems like lately they either mishandle games or don't handle them at all. What with Scalebound, Fable, Project Spark, etc.

[LastCenturyRob]

Sony has canceled games and closed studios as well.

[badz149]

@LastCenturyRob

that is why there's no exclusives anymore on the PS4 too, right? wait...

[XXanderXX]

Please fable F2P was doomed from the get go , scale bound deserved to be canceled after four delays , while adding insult to injury studio completed 3 other games . So it deserved it cancelation. As for Spark it was an internal thing that everyone knew was not going to last .

[1Victor]

@crotaaa what other games Microsoft released besides those you mentioned just because Sony don't clogs all their games in the last quarter doesn't mean they dont release EXCLUSIVE games throughout the year,so far Sony have released a EXCLUSIVE or more each month this year while you wait for the last quarter to play their best lineup ever

[trooper_]

Lol @ Crotaaaa

Youre going to have to dig a litle deeper because I can list a lot more games that came out for PS4 that you forgot to mention.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@LastCenturyRob

Sony has cancelled games and closed studios, but Sony's "WORLDWIDE" studios are still getting ready to pump out games:

Gran Turismo Sport
GOW4
Days Gone
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Dreams
Detroit Become Human
Matterfall
The Last of Us Part II

What's Microsoft doing? 3 games and another Halo and Forza?

[LastCenturyRob]

....yawn

[OsafuneKatana]

...Yawn

[Liqu1d]

Tired of waiting for games?

[AmUnRa]

Great reply dude, great reply. And so full of arguments.🙄

[stuna1]

Ha ha Liqu1d, that reply slayed!

I tell you coming to N4G is like having front row seat at Comedy Central!

[TKCMuzzer]

Unless it retails at $299 then no, only hard core Xbox One owners are going to invest. Consoles are about accessibility, You need a diverse games lineup at an affordable price, that's why consoles and PC's co exist.
No parent is going to pop into a game shop and Christmas and drop $500 on a console when there is one for $299 with more games available.
Price is key and one the reasons that the PS4 flew out the gate, it's perceived value was one of its highlights. When you tip over $400 (£350) you start to lose a big percentage of people who are not willing to spend that kind of money on hardware becasue if they were willing they would have already done so by buying a PC because it's something they really want to invest in.
I like gaming but do so on a console because the start out price is good and I know it will be supported for at least 5 years with new content that is fully compatible.
The Scorpio will appeal to those wanting the High res, High texture versions of Xbox One games, the real question, what is the % of consoles owners really care?

[Chevalier]

If it's anything like my Pro sales for every 20 or so Vanilla PS4 sales I get 1-2 Pro sales.

[XanderZane]

As long as they bring the games at the E3, I'll be happy. I'll still have my PS4 to play other exclusives though. Whether they can bring the fight back this gen, it's probably too late. Maybe in the 9th generation they can make it a closer fight. Nintendo is already leading the way though.

[PhoenixUp]

No way

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[chrisx]

There's no fight left, this gen is done and dusted by Sony and the Ps4. For the scorpio 2nd place is up for grabs with ninty. Ask this at the start of next gen

[DarkZane]

Pretty sure Playstation will win next gen too. Playstation is a much bigger brand then Xbox, plus they have a lot more games. Pretty obvious the PS5 will win.

Not that it matters, there might not be any Xbox console next gen. Scorpio is either the last nail in Xbox's coffin and the Xbox division will be shutdown after its failure. Or Microsoft is moving toward PC gaming and the play anywhere thing is a way to fully transition into PC gaming.

[Gunstar75]

How is Xbox a failure?

Never seen so many triggered people on one website

Lolz

[Gazondaily]

"Scorpio is either the last nail in Xbox's coffin and the Xbox division will be shutdown after its failure"

Haha failure ...okay🤣

Most POWERFUL games console on EARTH.

[1908-PB]

if this generation has finished then sony has failed them selfs.

[AmUnRa]

🙄 Shure dude, my god stop making a fool of your self.

[1908-PB]

Landcruizer------Yeah having only 3 games on your system that worth buying is considered failing in my book so if Xbox failed Sony did as well PC is the only way to go then.btw I own a ps4 pro---- psn is sniperbsr

[masterfox]

yes it can, they just need to announce an affordable price, and reveal lots of games releasing this year that utilizes this scorpio powa!!, is the secret sauce making a comeback ?

:D

[nevarDcirE]

Secret?

[stuna1]

No! But maybe to the street corner.

Without must have exclusives the Scorpio will just be a crustacean without a stinger. Power will only get Microsoft so far without something to truly display that power and I don't mean 3rd party titles, because if anyone thinks that developers are going to risk their standings with an established platform to show partiality to an upstart your really fooling yourselves.

Microsoft will initially have to put in the work as well as established a sizable fanbase before developers will truly start to exploit what Scorpio has to offer. Don't take my words for it, look at all past generations to see the truth! It wasn't the underdogs that were put on pedestals or exploited for their power or even there potential. Take the PS3 for example, in many regards many could say it was in ways more powerful than the Xbox 360! But because it was the underdog many developers didn't truly put in the necessary effort to get the most out of the system and it showed with crappy ports. But when Sony showed what it was capable of with their exclusives, developers wanted to see if they could get the same results or better! Not only that more developers flocked to the platform.

The WII U went through this phase, the original Xbox also went through this phase. That is why it couldn't gain enough traction behind the PS2 behemoth sales, it was already looked at as the underdog even though it was more powerful than the PS2. This exact turn of events is also plaguing the Xbox 1 even though it released alongside the PS44, but it undoing iss because of it's initial first impression and that in itself relegated it to underdog status.

[nevarDcirE]

"Power will only get Microsoft so far without something to truly display that power"

The PS4 launch title the showed of it's extra power was ............

[stuna1]

Bloodborne, Last of Us, Killzone Shadow Fall or, Infamous Second Son take a pick!

Mind you those games looked and performed better than the majority of games offered on competing machines whether they were 1st, 2nd, 3rd or Independent party titles!

[bluefox755]

Why do you think PS4 is dominating X1 this generation? It's not the power difference, that was petty fanboy squabble. It's dominating because it has better games, plain and simple.

[nevarDcirE]

Only one of those games were launch titles... And it wasn't a good one.

[stuna1]

Look up launch window for reference of what considered viable. Also what I consider good and what you consider good are both subjective, but what's not subjective list what came out on said competing console that measured up!

[ApocalypseShadow]

And only one of these companies are out in front by more than 2 to 1 because of its games. I wonder which one it is we're talking about?

What's interesting about Microsoft's situation is that they are playing off Scorpio as a current system when everything about it speaks that it's their next gen offering under the guise of a current one because they are being dominated.

The CPU, GPU, the HDMI, the bluray player, VR, etc are far beyond Xbox one. Sony sells their system as a PS4 that supports 4K TVs. With both consoles supporting VR. But Sony isn't marketing Pro as being anything else but a PS4. It's so close to the base system that base PS4 gamers aren't even concerned about it's existence.

Microsoft in every interview, say their system is part of the Xbox family but never an Xbox one. And that you will be able to play your Xbox games and use its accessories on Scorpio.One way to be sly about what they are doing with the system is to try and sell it under the guise of being just a mid gen upgrade. Which is far from the truth.

But, as we have seen before, Sony's catalog of current PS4 games coupled with its future exclusives attached to 70 million combined PS4s by holiday season means Sony isn't worried about who comes to the from door.

Because, Sony will be leaving this at Microsoft's front door with exclusives.
http://i.imgur.com/mlFdg81....

[jwillj2k4]

Don't be an idiot.

[1908-PB]

stuna1----"Without must have exclusives"---- well excuse me name one must have exclusive on the PS4

[Razzer]

oh good god. why even bother with folks like you?

[AmUnRa]

O my freaking God are you really think that? Your lost, your an xboxfanboy,
a brainwashed xboxfanboy.
Give it up allready, nobody will take you serieus, only your fellowship of xboxfanboys.

[1908-PB]

Landcruizer---- a game that suits my personal taste like you know something that lets me use my brain and not some bland and boring third person action game with stealth the how to be a drone for dummies.

AmUnRa-- I don't own a Xbox just like you don't so what's this about Xbox are you talking about?

[stuna1]

Do tell me what game you are playing that fits the criteria you listed!? Because from my perspective as it stands no console other than PS4 fits that criteria simply because no other console has the scope of covering all the different genre available!

RPG = Persona

Action adventure = Uncharted, Horizon Zero Dawn

Racing/Simulator = DriveClub, Gran Tourismo

1st person Shooter = Killzone Shadow Fall

Horror = Bloodborne

Plus essentially every 3rd party AAA title that's available to every console out there on the PS4 that doesn't have some limiting exclusivity deal in place! This doesn't at all cover the true scope of games in play or that will be in play when all is said and done, just a reminder that while others are carrying a pea shooter, Sony is packing a gattling gun!

[sk8ofmnd]

Exactly... The ps4 sells the shit out of third partys and thats not suddenly going to change with a mid gen refresh. Its not like these games will say for scorpio only. They will still be xb1 games (3rd party games) with scorpio enhanced sticker on them. If this was a whole new generation with scorpio branded boxes i think ms would have a fighting chance... But its not

[RosweeSon]

With hardware?... no.

[1908-PB]

yeah it's not like the PS4 didn't have almost 2 years of tumbleweed if not for the third party

[Razzer]

Bullshit. Not single stretch of more than 12 months have gone by since launch that PS4 has not received an exclusive game. Stop making shit up.

[jwillj2k4]

PS4 ALWAYS had more games than Xbox from day 1.

[RosweeSon]

Did it? Well I bought day one and I was happy... still am more than happy, owned an Xbox from Oct/March just gone... 4 months over 4 years?... know which I prefer besides there's switch now ;)
Very few consoles launch with 10/10 games unless it's Nintendo and Super Mario World, Mario 64, Zelda Switch etc. PS4 has been smashing it and the games just keep coming the fact Knack and a few other launch games weren't exactly systems sellers would be a problem, if the line up was dry with a game every 3-6 months... Resogun day one was no slouch and ps+ helped since day one. Xbox 360 didn't exactly have a massive launch.. COD2 was great then there was nothing for nearly 3 months until dead or alive arrived.
Resogun was great day one Infamous was no system seller but it's not a crap game by any stretch and well I'm not listing all the other masses of games that have come out since man games galore on PS4. Being a gamer with no ties and only being interested in the games and not overly bothered by the Tech it's all Sony and Nintendo this gen.

[1908-PB]

Razzer--- yeah but how many of those exclusives were duds? I would say many so what's the point in counting them when no one bought them in the first place. https://psnprofiles.com/sni...

[trooper_]

Nope, not even close.

PS4 bodied the XB1 because it did have games. Keep reaching though.

[mkis007]

1908

I would say no risk no reward. This shows in the number of Sony exclusives that can be in the conversation for so many individual GOTY awards every year. Sure sony has duds, but they also have great successes.

If a game appeals to you is it not a success for you? who cares if some are only million sellers.

[DAEMONIFEAR]

They once said ps3 would never catch 360 with a consecutive 34+months on top of the sales charts! And in the last 11months of last gen ps3 pulled ahead by 1mn yay?! Xbox has games in fact a lot of games! The last 5months has been scarse but consistent since launch but it's no comparison to ps4 and admitted by Sony themselves their launch lineup was horrible and their games in general between 2013-2015 was very scarse!

Don't read a bias media write up and believe them because it seems that's all you people are doing! Xbox has the biggest lineup of exclusives it's ever had and I think they're putting off a couple games for E3! At least we're not waiting 5-10yrs for a game to release like on PS4!

Facts do help and going by sales Sony aren't moving 1st party titles! Exclusives don't mean anything when 3rd party is what's selling these consoles! Don't be a complete ignorant fool and believe something someone writes for no purpose but to get traffic to their failing media sites! Didn't you hear these sites are in a decline they have to create hype and false facts to make the easily lead believe the crap they say! Do these people even get paid for their amateur journalism? It aint hard to be a tech game journalist and I guarantee they talk crap to get noticed and clicks!

They to me seem like spoilt little kids these days and nothing is good enough! I wonder what these pokes would have been like during the 8bit days!

But to say there's no fight left you're the small minority that probably think no one games on pc or phones when in fact more people use those then all these platforms combined!

[ThatGuyDart]

Comparing PS3 and Xbox One was your first mistake. PS3 pulled ahead because Sony made a slimmer and cheaper version while dropping exclusives all over the place from their first party studios. Microsoft's first party support is not even close to being able to single handily save a console.

[RosweeSon]

PS3 because of slimmer cheaper consoles... yeah Xbox didn't release elites or any other versions of 360 🤔. They revised the shit out of that console as launch it was RROD then something else then something else ok it's been out 3-5 years and we've finally got it working and not blowing up within 12 months. Good job the games line up they had was fantastic and I was hooked into Achievements as without them and the great games (most importantly) I wouldn't have replaced my console 3 times. Yes I also replaced my launch PS3... Once 360 died every other year tho sent one off with dodgy disc drive (wasn't reading discs) week later it's back week after that it's got RROD 😩. Didn't fancy that this gen and well thankfully for everyone microsoft didn't have anywhere near the same problems, this time it's just lack of games is their problem, sure they got all the 3rd party stuff it's just all the rest. Lacking.

[Razzer]

"They once said ps3 would never catch 360 with a consecutive 34+months on top of the sales charts! "

Those were NPD months in the US and no, PS3 never caught 360 in the US. It is conceivable that Xbox will catch PS in the US, but in the world? Nope. And PS3 has led the 360 worldwide a lot longer than 11 months.

"Facts do help". Sure.....you need to use them correctly though.

[AmUnRa]

O boy, keep dreaming that pipedream boy, you will be in for a rude awakening.

[Dragonscale]

The fanatx STILL think its just about 'powah'. They are gonna be in for a shock. A console without exclusives is pointless regadless of power.

[SideNote]

Microsoft lost alot of the fanbase, and they are not coming back. They've made their bed.

[Nasisbot]

Wise decision.

[snkiworld]

Scorpio Cancelled -MS

[LastCenturyRob]

After the disastrous first year for MS and how well they responded the past two years anything is possible, but to get even close to Sony this gen MS really needs new must own IPs that will appeal to more than just their user base.

[TechnoGoat]

Not this generation..

[Nasisbot]

Nor the future ones.

[2cents]

Services Yes
Hardware Yes
Online network Yes
Games... Erm... Let's wait till E3 before commenting on that.

[RosweeSon]

So the most important part, E3 last year wasn't exactly blinding for them still waiting for Scorpio and Crackdown all the other games cancelled Microsoft don't have to wait for E3 every year have they never heard of Twitter or their own official Xbox site?.

[2cents]

Yeah I hear you. Really pissed about scalebound.

All I can be is optimistic. They would not invest millions into developing this new machine of phase two is not to focus on content!

They are doing the whole wooing of devs now with their "look how cool our Dev kits are"...

They are making sure all old games get benefits from running on Scorpio, multiplats will have the upper hand and if that results in sales of the console then devs will start to focus on the platform.

I am personally excited for what they do with MR, what old and new games will look like on it, what new games will be announced and finally, how much is this gonna sting the wallet.

[SilverDemon]

here is a question for you:
did the switch sold many units because of its unique concept or because if zelda?

software moves hardware not the other way around. xbox Scorpio NEEDS mind blowing titles to get the gamers attention and with sony having all the big titles marketing deals (and possibly exclusive content) and the strong first party studios, xbox have a lot to prove this e3

phil said this year will focus on new IPs and if these new IPs released against the HUGE IPs that are coming this year(assassin's creed, starwars BF2,COD,RDR2,mario and possible GoW and spidermanPS4) they wont stand a chance. xbox in a tight spot right now...and for ME personally, I want to see what they are planing to do with the first half of 2018 because I dont want to see another drought

[Destiny1080]

phil will have lots of games for e3 according to xboxfanboys, so no worries there

[stonecold3]

no to late even japan will not support it has no chance of catching the ps4 it to late now

[RosweeSon]

Japan have never supported Xbox and easy to see why when it's so unoriginal and uninspiring. Look at the selection of games you get in Japan compare that to what Xbox would like you to play.. battlefield/COD, assassins, Fifa NFL, anything that's released yearly and keeps you hooked in paying for Xbox live year after year. What about quality decent games not all about the 💰💰

[ILostMyMind]

Maybe on next generation.

[OsafuneKatana]

PlayStation is the most dominant console brand GLOBALLY. Xbox is like a small mosquito that PS will always crush under its feet.

[AmUnRa]

I get the feeling that Xboxfanboys have the illusion that with the Scorpio out in the wild, the Xbox One and the Scorpio will outsell the PS4 and the PS4Pro.
They think that the Xboxconsoles will be number one again in the USA and the UK just like with the Xbox 360.
They even think that the Xbox consoles will outsell the PS4 w.w.

They living in a pipedream if they really think that. The Scorpio will NOT be the turning point for Microsoft or the Xboxconsoles.
That train has left a time ago, a long time ago.

[Nasisbot]

xbox will never be able to fight with PS because unlike xbox, PS is popular in more than 2 countries of the world.

[OB1Biker]

'Praise for Scorpio's specs is universal'
Dam I forgot to praise.

[kevnb]

I don't see how the Scorpio will change anything. How much is Microsoft paying to hype it up?

[RosweeSon]

Not enough as hype train has derailed.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

If Xbots would just be honest and call the Scorpio what it is...A next gen console...Then they can have what seems so important to them...A lead in a console generation.....

[snkiworld]

Xbots Honest LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS

[sk8ofmnd]

"Project Scorpio: Can Microsoft bring the fight back to Sony's doorstep?"

Two things would have to happen right off the bat for the scorpio to even think of bringing the fight back to playstation.

1. The need either exclusive games to xbox orr more importantly, exclusive games you can only get on scorpio.

2. The scorpio NEEDS to be competitively priced... Dont care what it has to offer... They need a stripped own scorpio to be between 400 and 450.

We all know the ps4pro will likely see a $50 pricedrop and come with any packed in game or $400 with a game like spider man or gow packed in the box.

Just being the ultimate best player for third partys isnt going to cut the mustard when for less $ you can get a comparable product. We arent talking 360 to xb1 graphics difference. Tho 4k native with 60 fps may entice many to buy one.

[XXanderXX]

Wouldn't a striped down Scorpio just be a a vanilla pro .😀

[XXanderXX]

Counting on it to bring more than just a fight .

[inxine]

no way. its not like sony's gonna stop selling games and consoles lol what a weird thing to say. Microsoft is like 25-30 mio. behind when it comes to sold consoles. games are doing better on playstation aswell. they always did.

[kainslayer]

NO

[synistatha1]

I'm still waiting for any Xbox fan to accept my challenge and name 5 Xbox potential system selling exclusives only available on the Xbox1 not named gears halo or forza.

[whitesoxfalife1976]

hmm thought i had debunk your myth with this same comment you posted about a week ago. Carry on tho, just proves y'all playstation people needs attention.

Your top five 5 games on ps4 needs your attention there bud. If "YOU" even own them not redboxing them like kids do.
Im not gonna challenge your brain right now cuz i already know the simple copy and paste answer you gonna give me back.
Now that I've gave you some attention(AGAIN) you shud go boot up your ps4 and go play your games.

[synistatha1]

And again u still haven't answered the simple request of 5 games. Ok let me make it a lil bit easier for u. Just name me 3 potential system selling games on the Xbox since 5 seems too hard for you and your Xbox brethren.

[Artemidorus]

Can Project Scropio ever survive the mass repeated articles and escape without everyone getting bored is the real question.

[XXanderXX]

Here hoping it brings a fight and decimates it and continues to do for the next two gens .

[Kingcorey13]

No. not unless Sony just completely stops selling PlayStation and Microsoft spends the next 4 years releasing naughty dog/gurrila/Sony Santa Monica caliber exclusives.. but that's not gonna happen.

[BIGBOSS08]

Na. Maybe xbox can start doing better in the US but the rest of the world will stay the same. Probably will just get worse for xbox with all the games sony have coming. Europe and Japan will more than make up for any gains xbox makes in the US. So xbox kinda can't beat ps4 no matter what. I hear the scorpio bring called the beast by microsoft fanatics but the true beast is the unstoppable ps4.

[Babadook7]

"Project Scorpio: Can Microsoft bring the fight back to Sony's doorstep?"

There's certainly no shortage of articles about it.

[Max-Zorin]

A waste of an article. Xbox stands no chance, because that stupid American company refuses to invest in new talent, studios, and new IP's. They keep relying on those stupid games, Halo, Gears, and Forza. Those games need a goddamn final ending already! It's time for some new material Microsoft! Maybe if Microsoft was Canadian, the Xbox division would be in better condition.

[Hugodastrevas]

Better luck next gen Xbox, 'cause in this one you took a pounding. Put some ice on it and you might be able to sit down in the next gen.

[TechnoGoat]

Microsoft already screwed up with Scorpio, they should of planted their flag in the sand and declared they were leading the charge for a new generation... cause this one is done and dusted.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

The console war is over. Sony has won and the battlefield is littered with PS4 games.

[kassler]

But for how long will Scorpio be the worlds most powerful console? untill 2019 when PS5 comes?

[Hugodastrevas]

Not even close baybee!