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Xbox One update changes the home button, and I'm not sure I like it

CNET's Dan writes: "One button press becomes three. Also, I'm old and resistant to change."

StormLegend2993d ago

One of the reasons I hate Xbox consoles. Way too many updates that change things! you can never get used to anything.

XbladeTeddy2992d ago

The more updates the better I feel. Just shows they are supporting it well and trying to make things as good as they can for the consumer.

yay1112992d ago (Edited 2992d ago )

Most changes are in response to consumer feedback so travis' comment is just stupid

FriedGoat2992d ago

Thats BS yay. The Xbox ui on the 360 managed to get consistently worse with every update.

ThanatosDMC2992d ago

Yay for updates. Damn thing still take 2-3m to boot up.

nevarDcirE2991d ago

Switch your console to instant on mode...

When I say 'Xbox on' my console is up and running before my TV gets it's picture, before sky has a signal, and before my home theatre makes a sound.

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InMyOpinion2992d ago

Their UX/UI teams have always seemed lost to me. I remember when they removed the Blade interface and then put it back in again. It's as if they have no clue about when something is working and just change things randomly with no real thought behind it. And they don't seem to take into account the energy spent by their user base having to relearn the navigation.

UnHoly_One2992d ago

They never put the blade interface back in.

Unless you are talking about the guide being modeled in that style. It was never the actual dashboard style ever again after it was removed.

InMyOpinion2991d ago

UnHoly_One - That's what I meant. They added a fallback Blade-like solution for when you held down the XB-button (if I remember correctly).

rainslacker2991d ago

You're surprised by this? UI changes are what MS does. Usability is typically the least of their concerns. Speaking in general, not just Xbox. Overall, I haven't had any problem with Xbox's UI, because I just boot it up, then play games on it. Beyond that, I don't use all the bells and whistles.

but your explanation is very reminiscent of how they handled Vista, then to Win7, then 8, then finally 10. They had a good thing going with XP and it's lackluster successors, then go and ruin it with Vista because it was flashy and what people were liking on mobile. So it's obvious MS doesn't really think of the end user experience that much...despite them probably spending ungodly amounts of money on focus testing the UI's before release.

Nu2992d ago

I actually liked the 360 dashboard better

fathertime44642992d ago (Edited 2992d ago )

Me too. However I must admit the new home button function is taking a lot longer to get used to. Either I'm getting to old or it's just not right. Personally I liked it better the other way it was or even the 360 blades

GuruStarr782992d ago

I agree. I've been on Xbox live damn near it's inception and while I did finally get totally used to the original setup, (one press on the home button took you back to the "home" screen") they go and change it. I even refuse to be a beta tester on dashboard updates, since they always seem to be a downgrade, or so different that they take a while to grow used to.

mwjw6962992d ago

Ok old man we get it! Change scares you. LOL how pathetic you "gamers" can't figure out a new UI in 9+ months. What a bunch of technically illiterate group you are, better go back and hide under your rock. Change happens get over it.

ziggurcat2992d ago

I would rather have constant updates than no updates at all. I never understood why people complain about these things when they're only meant to improve the experience, and fix bugs in the OS.

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Trekster_Gamer2992d ago

Why come here if you don't even like XBOX in the first place?

Microsoft listens to its customers they add new features and streamline things.

meka26112991d ago

Gotta love that you got downvoted for stating the obvious.

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SpaceRanger2993d ago

I thought I was the only one annoyed by this. My buddy didn't even notice since he goes to siege directly anytime he plays. But it bugged the hell out of me when trying to switch games.

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TheCommentator2992d ago (Edited 2992d ago )

Your "recently played" and "pins" show up with one press of the guide button, just like before, but is it really that horrible to have to press the guide, right, and A if you need to?

The guide is 3-4 times faster now so if it was still the old way it would have taken just as long waiting as it does now to get to the dashboard. People complaining are just lazy and don't want to push 2 buttons for that 1% of the time they need to go to the dashboard. Why do you even need the dashboard at all though? Before, you pressed the guide, right and A to get into Games and Apps. Now you press the guide, right, down, and A. Woo. Are you really complaining about this? Also, the Store is faster to get to because it's right next to Games and Apps when you press the guide, so why do you still need to go to the Dashboard at all?

shinrock2992d ago

The Xbox hate campaign is real on here.

TheCommentator2992d ago (Edited 2992d ago )

Lol at the disagrees when they can't answer the question, "Why do you need to go to the dashboard at all?"

FYI, the Guide has direct access to:

Home
Games and Apps
Store
Gold Benefits
Recently Played
Pins

Only things I don't think you can access is Community and One Guide.

HyperMouse2992d ago

yes it is, the home button should take you to the home screen

TheCommentator2992d ago (Edited 2992d ago )

@ Hyper

It's called the Guide button and it takes you to the Guide. It says Guide at the top of the window when it opens, so why do you assume that I should go to the Dashboard on my XB1 when it's pressed?

Conversely, PS4 has a Home button that takes you Home. That makes the same amount of sense that pulling up a Guide menu does for MS.

Seriously, this is why we can't have conversations on N4G. You mislabel things and won't answer honest questions about the subject when asked. How come you chose to answer the obvious question by saying it is too hard, but chose not to tell me why you even need to access the Dashboard in the first place. You contribute nothing to this conversation other than to prove your ignorance. Thanks for that, at least.

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franwex2992d ago

Yeah, I'm not a big fan either. I know we simply have to press A (maybe press A twice?) to go to dashboard. I enjoyed pressing the X button and going there directly

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LordoftheCritics2992d ago

I like it as a single tap to home too.

The eff MS?

TheCommentator2992d ago

What is it that requires you to go the the dashboard anymore? I'm honestly curious.

meka26112992d ago

I'm guessing you most be the laziest mofo around. Oh my god, not having to hit a button twice instead of once, what were they thinking? /s. It's fine to have to do that, because now everything else is easier access and the whole OS is a lot faster than before. It's not much more effort to hit a button again. I hated having to hit the guide button twice real quick to open it like before, mostly because the timing was weird.

GuruStarr782992d ago

I don't think it's about "having to press a button twice". It's more that they changed something that was already quite simple and "comfortable".

Imagine if you pressed the PS4 button and it took you to something other than than the home screen. It would kinda suck (I've had both companies systems since the OG Xbox and the PS1).

I'm willing to give it a chance, maybe it is better, but at the moment it feels "wonky" as opposed to "easier".

LordoftheCritics2992d ago

Say that when they stop making zippers in your trousers. You would then have to undo your pants to pee.

Keep your quick and dumb comments to yourself.

meka26112991d ago

Lol at lordofthecritics, what the hell does a zipper have to do with hitting a button another time?

Dinkis2992d ago

me too and that's the only thing I miss

TheCommentator2992d ago

You can't even tell us why you need to get to the dashboard anymore. Typical prick, running your mouth off at Meka like they aren't making sense, when you can't even qualify your own statements. Talk about the subject or GTFO.

Also, learn how to use analogy. Yours sucks.

LordoftheCritics2992d ago

Lol why is your panties in a bunch.

He was running his mouth at me making one helluva assumption about who i am.

Chill and stop trying to come at me. I am not obliged to answer your question.

rainslacker2991d ago

How are you not banned? You've thrown out personal insults to more people on this site in the last month, than I've seen from the entire user base in over a year.

Come on mods. It's getting completely ridiculous what this guy is getting away with. Other fan boys can be annoying and confrontational, but they still don't throw out these personal attacks on a daily, if not hourly basis.

meka26112991d ago

Rainslacker; With all the BS on this site from fanboys I doubt someone is getting banned for something like that. Hell I get annihilated if I say something bad about horizon on n4g.

rainslacker2991d ago (Edited 2991d ago )

@Meka

Personal insults at least warrant a restriction. I know the mods are marking his comments as inappropriate, just go look at his history, so it's not like they aren't seeing it. But as far as I can tell, he's been throwing out insults, calling people stupid, retarded, pricks, etc on a daily basis, without a single restriction in weeks.

About a year ago, I once used the word Pony, in reference to myself in a sardonic manner to reply to someone else who used the word as an insult, and I got a one week restriction. I've seen that word thrown around 5-10 times in articles these past couple weeks, and nothing.

The mods are getting lax. I'd say they're understaffed, which they are, but they are dishing out the inappropriate comments, so they are seeing the posts. Maybe they don't care anymore, and just want N4G to go more downhill than it has since this gen started. I don't usually care about these things if someone just goes off here and there....we all have our bad days and what not. But TheCommentator is bringing nothing to the discussion lately, and seems to lash out at anyone who has a differing opinion, or something bad to say about MS. I can see people around here who get into heated arguments....like me and Gangsta_red at times....and we can try to discredit each other based on spurious reasoning often....but we don't go around throwing personal insults at each other.

This isn't really about the reaction you get from other forum goers. It's that TheCommentator is breaking the rules, and doing it often, and no action is being taken against him. If the reaction to your negative horizon comments comes with personal insults, then that reaction is wrong. But talking about your opinion, even if vitriolic, is not against the rules.

Anyways, I hate to be off topic like this. I don't care to derail the overall discussion here. It's just something I noticed from him as late, and was hoping to bring it more to the forefront. Continuously marking his comments as inappropriate isn't doing anything.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer7h ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole1h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

Fishy Fingers6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer6h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused6h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher5h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning771h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

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Sony PS5 Era Profits Soar Past $13 Billion, Outpacing All Prior PlayStation Generations

Sony’s PS5 era has generated over $13 billion in profits, surpassing the combined earnings of PS1–PS4, with $136 billion in sales.

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lukasmain22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Their recent Playstation revenue is also more than Xbox and Switch combined, obviously in large part due to 3rd party sales.

Christopher22h ago

I mean, if Sony is keeping third parties happy, kind of feels like a winning method.

GamingExplained10119m ago

I mean they have to, since they have 2 exclusives anyone cared about this generation, and those are now on PC. The rest is this creatively bankrupt string of remakes and remasters, taking advantage of the creativity of developers past efforts, and laying off teams creative side since all that work has been done already by previous teams.

By far the least creative generation ever.

IRetrouk18h ago

Kinda always been that way if you look at previous gens, exclusives are important but they aint the main revenue generator.

Reaper22_17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

.While that is impressive. Microsoft made 13 billion in one quarter. Making up facts doesn't make them true.

Mmmkay17h ago

microsoft is not xbox. a bot should know that by now. you have been told this bs 1000 times on this site alone.

OlderGamer1714h ago

Yeah Microsoft but Xbox on the other hand.....

Aloymetal13h ago

Your defense of Microsoft is only highlighting Lord Phil's and the lame MS mismanagement. Since you're talking about MS as a whole, imagine having trillions in the bank and still losing to ''tiny'' Sony PS and Ninty. It doesn't get any more lame than that.

Christopher8h ago

If what Microsoft made as a whole was all that mattered, we would still have Windows Phones and Zunes. I would love to see Xbox' operating profits. Love to see it.

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thorstein15h ago

I prefer Playstation over Xbox when it comes to consoles but how does this news justify their layoffs?

Shane Kim14h ago

But the execs brother. You got to think about them. How could they otherwise buy yet another mansion and yacht?

raWfodog13h ago

People are generally paid for the work they are doing. Layoffs generally occur when there is no work for them to do (project cancelled, business slowing down, etc). I’ve been laid off from two jobs during my 40+ years of working so I know about these things. A company is not going to just keep paying people if there is no work for them to do, no matter how much profits they made.

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MIDGETonSTILTS1718h ago

And this is why the game output for ps5 has been a tad slower…

1) they needed to be… games take longer to develop, and they’d burn out their teams trying to maintain the same pace as ps3.

2) they can afford to… games cost more than ever to push boundaries, so Sony had to figure out a way to match Xbox’s clever profit strategies in order to afford to continue to innovate and take risks.

lukasmain13h ago

So much time was wasted on those Live Service shits. Glad they learned their lesson and have scaled that way back. Still haven't killed it, but I like it being in the background and not at the forefront

MIDGETonSTILTS177h ago

Honestly, I love Helldivers 2 so much that I can forgive them for over investing in GaaS. At least they got one gem from the endeavor.

And I still dream of Factions releasing one day.

I don’t hate GaaS inherently, most are just implemented poorly.

Reaper22_16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

@ s2killinit

Thats xbox which includes other services. The playstion division also includes other services as well. Its mostly playtion but not all playstation. What's up with all the double standards around here.

Chevalier16h ago

Yeah double standards like some idiots who got to talk about unrelated profits as a talking point. Wish those damn parrots could stay on topic with game related profits.

Next thing these idiots will talk about is something unrelated like Nintendo made more off the Mario movie than all of Xbox studios TV/movie endeavors combined you know?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Deathdeliverer15h ago

@Chevalier

Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number.

“The sales of windows professional on the other hand trounces god of war sales” 😂

Reaper22_13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is. Tencent is no.1 in profits. Buts that's ok because unlike Tencent and Microsoft, Sony isn't in it for the money, right.🤔

pwnmaster300013h ago

That’s what Xbox fanboys do. They’ve been doing this since Xbox one.

They will use all of MS, one of the biggest company in the world and play it like every dollar they earn comes from Xbox just to one up PlayStation.
Is actually pretty sad.

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Chevalier15h ago

"Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number."

Guys we're off topic here you know? Can someone bring us back on topic and tell us how much revenue Xbox studios does for movies and TV? Pretty sure we should also discuss how much Nintendo stands to make at Universal studios on Nintendo land and the rides should be a hot ticket this summer.

"Ouch! hahaha no wonder reaper wanna hide behind profits made by windows XD"

Yeah idiots with some sort of inferiority complex needs to get their win somewhere though. But wait shouldn't we get back on topic guys? Like seriously how much money do you think Fallout Season 2 will bring in?!

Reaper22_11h ago

Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts. At first the narrative was Microsoft isn't going to make the money back from the ABK deal to now their profits wouldn't be as high if they didn't get the deal. This very topic is part of the reason why the deal was secured. Sony's dishonesty and reluctance to tell the truth about how much money they're making and lying about how much this deal would hurt their business. That strategy failed. They're are making a lot of money. No doubt about it and its good for the industry but don't get butthurt when Microsoft post their profits and you guys see they are also making a lot of money as well.

CrashMania11h ago

@reaper.

Microsoft don't reveal Xbox profits, sales numbers, or gamepass numbers, I wonder why that is?

You call Sony dishonest but at least they don't hide and obfuscate meaningful playstation numbers like MS do with Xbox.

IRetrouk10h ago

Reaper stop lol, only one company hides that info and it ain't sony....

Chevalier13h ago

"All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is."

Nah all you did was confirm you're an idiot.

Reaper22_11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

You seem to be fluent in idiocy. Not everyone speaks it. So next time speak slowly and clearly so we all can understand. Getting emotional doesn't really make you smarter. Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says.🫡

Chevalier7h ago

"Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts"

🤡 What facts? 🤣

Please share with everyone your idiocy

What does Xbox make in revenue and profit? What are their sales? How much money does Gamepass cost them? Oh right you got ZERO numbers to post.

"Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says."

Says the idiot who can't even tell the difference between Microsoft and Xbox? Lmao. Seriously all you're showing everyone again is how much of an uninformed parroting idiot you are.

But go ahead and post your evidence! Oh right again ZERO from a ZERO. Absolutely 💯 hilarious to see you stumble like the idiot you are.

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Npugz716h ago

Only because of games prices otherwise it’s the worst generation in PlayStation history especially for games

Reaper22_16h ago

Thats true. The article did mention game and prices were a reason. Its also shows their greed is no different than Microsoft. Laying off all those people but yet bragging about profits and still tried to stop ABK deal. What the hell!

MatrixxGT15h ago

Closing studios, layoffs, leadership changes, PS plus increases, multiple game cancellations and delays, total flops like concord. Slowest release of first party games of any generation and they just shut down PS stars I guess because it was costing to much.
Yet they announce record profits…..the greed here is insane, MS and Nintendo too. All of them milking gamers and we just keep lapping it up like a blood hound for a meal.
Them tariffs are really hitting them hard I see.

Deathdeliverer15h ago

Well a part of running a business is a tight grip on that P&L sheet. In project management. It’s a known fact that the farther into a project you go, the more costly the corrections. Having something reach the definition of done, the end of the road, and it’s hated is a monumental loss of money. As games are usually made iteratively it’s like how was this not caught and course corrected several times before this point. Sony is definitely known as trusting and allows teams to make the games they want to make. They “trust the process”. The caveat to that big budget and freedom is if it bombs, especially if it’s your first game, you’re outta there. They have shareholders/stakeholders to keep happy. Where as normally a done game like Concord would give ROI as it was out in the wild. The cost of the project is recouped and turned into profit or delivered whatever value they wanted. If the game is now NOT coming out, how do they get that money back and stay profitable? By not paying wages for that team over a course of time that would have still been on payroll working on the next potential bomb, DLC for a dead game, and essentially costing more money.
It sadly isn’t greed, it’s business. They release these great profits because 1) it’s enticing for more stakeholders to invest, and 2) Despite failures they are still balancing the books and turning record setting profits.
How many live service games died at various stages of development? They are still this profitable? Imagine if the games came out and were hits to add onto the profits?

Christopher8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

So, you're saying that over $10B of this is from $10 to $20 software price increases? Zero to do with increased market reach? Massive MTX from third-party games?

Vithar16h ago

where are the "Sony is in trouble" sayers? LOL

Chevalier15h ago

They're talking about Microsoft quarterly profits like any true gamer would be doing.

Aloymetal13h ago

Oh, that's coming, it's a mandatory thing just wait for next gen and you'll see infinite articles from the shills and the green fanbase saying ''tHiS GeN WiL Be dIfFerEnT''

stonecold35h ago

over twitter xbox fanboy you tube are saying saying sony is broke cant afford warner bros.

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PlayStation The Concert Announces U.S.Tour Dates

The tour is coming to the states as new dates have been revealed.