Guerrilla: Horizon's Sequel Would Have To Have An Equally Deep Story & More Machines

Guerrilla Games talked about what would have to be in Horizon: Zero Dawn's sequel as well as listening to critiques for future games.

[zivtheawesome]

very interesting: they pretty much confirmed aloy will stay the MC of the game.
more machines - their art director wants a hundred XD.
improvements to weapon switching - they originally had more weapons but scrapped them so switching weapons would be quick.

[Nitrowolf2]

It would be kind of odd if she wasn't the main character still considering the ending of the game and then some of the side quest dialogue about her saying her work's not done and she'll deal with it after the main villain.

Perhaps when they do the expansion DLC if there is one

[-Foxtrot]

Spoilers

Yeah she needs to rebuild Gaia and find Apollo. It was basically why she was born

I'd like to see the DLC based on Elisabets final trip home. Would be sad. Maybe hint in the end she's still alive and got out of the suit somehow. Either that or Rosts revenge mission.

[Nitrowolf2]

@Foxtrot

You know, I would mind a DLC like that either, or something during the Machine attack. Its Very Matrix feeling to it TBH. I would at least love to see cutscenes flashbacks of it, it just sounds really cool

[UnSelf]

I wanna corrupt a tallnevk and have it fight for me

[one2thr]

@Fox

SPOILER

I thought Hades was a computational mutation caused by the Faro virus that infected GAIA and assimilated Apollo, thus causing Sylens to do Hades bidding, as he made both intended and unintended sacrifices for infinite wisdom.

Apollo is Hades bargaining chip, to "control"/ "influence", Sylens.

Well thats what I thought, I gotta replay it, from the beginning.

[andrewsquall]

@Prince-Ali Maybe Elisabet set that up so that it would foil or throw off the scent of any machines that went after her. :)

Oh and I WANT Ted to be involved in that. It would be incredible if Elisabet found out what Ted did to her team in the bunker before she got home and personally went and got revenge for them. That fucker did not deserve to live out the rest of his life in a penthouse lol.

[Nyxus]

I would also like to see more customization for Aloy's equipment, now you can just choose whole costumes but what if you could equip different boots, gauntlets, headpieces, etc.?

[Alexious]

Yes, that would be in line with an expansion of the RPG systems. Maybe adding the ability to choose a companion (or not at all) could be interesting, too!

[Chris_Wray]

Expanding on the universe, not Aloy (As great as she is) would make a great deal of sense. You get to explore further afield, see the world and how it's changed further. Imagine something like "Horizon: New Worlds" set in/around Manchester or London? How about "Horizon: New Dawn" set in/around Tokyo or Osaka.

The possibilities are limitless. Granted, they'll end up sticking to a US region methinks.

[ninsigma]

I would say, they'll keep Aloy (she's an amazing character so no complaints here for that), start off with the world we know from the first but have Aloy travel to another country at some point as part of the narrative.

[Sunny_D]

I think they have to find a location where the enviornements/climates are varied. After playing through Horizon different type of environments, I think it would be hard to like a place that isn't as varied. But then again, this is a thousand years in the future so maybe the climates have changed.

[frostypants]

There are parts of Asia and Africa that could work similarly to the western US on that front.

I'd really like to see an entire ruined city...kinda like the ruins in the eastern part of the map in this one, but much larger. San Francisco would be interesting...lots of water, massive hills, and plenty of landscape variety in the surrounding area. The problem with a Chicago or NYC would be that the surrounding area probably wouldn't be epic enough for a game where wilderness exploration is such a big part.

[BlakHavoc]

Awesome game but not without its flaws. I'd want better dialogue and voice acting, a greater sense of discovery as there wasn't much to uncover in the map. Side quests were ok but ultimately very forgettable, TW3 has set a very high standard for side quests so it's a high bar to reach. More weapon variety and a greater emphasis on melee combat. And I really loved overriding the machines so I want an expansion of that, give me the ability to ride all machines including flying ones. How awesome would it be to be able to use the machine parts to craft your own weapons? What makes the sequel so exciting is that there are so many things they could improve upon although HZD is so amazing.

[Nitrowolf2]

The games was pretty awesome regardless of those flaws, but I agree. this is Guerrilla Games 1st Open World RPG, considering that they have only done Killzone, this is a pretty great start for them

[AspiringProGenji]

Witcher 3 sidequest weren't that memorable either. Only the Bloddy Baron quest stood out the most

[BlakHavoc]

Nah to me it had some very memorable side quests. Not to mention the witcher contracts were pretty cool. Much better combat and graphics in Horizon but I'd give dialogue, VO, and sidequests to TW3. With that said, HZD was the better game imo.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed

[Alexious]

Yes, it is not perfect but you have to consider that it was their first attempt at an open world action RPG.

CD Projekt RED's The Witcher 1 pales in comparison. I would be hard pressed to find a developer that made a better open world action RPG the first time around, there probably isn't one.

[BlakHavoc]

Ya that's also what's exciting, it's their first attempt in a genre the studio has zero exp in. That's why a sequel is so exciting, we usually see the devs original vision realized in a sequel. They get to correct their mistakes while building on what made the original so spectacular.

[Sunny_D]

Flying through the world on a overridden Stormbird would be AMAZING!

[UnSelf]

Riding a stormbird is my dream.

[LavaLampGoo]

Well without spoilers they've created enough depth and lore to have plenty for Aloy or others to interact with! Really want more from the Horizon world

[UCForce]

Yes, more HZD and more Aloy, please.

[-Foxtrot]

Bigger Machines we can mount

Flying Machines we can use

A glider to jump off cliffs

One bow to use on all arrows

Aloy can climb most things like small rocks

And so on

Lots of room for improvement

[UCForce]

And GG have a great start.

[StormLegend]

This is sounding like Breath of the Wild instead of Horizon. I don't want a copycat.

[-Foxtrot]

Nothing in BotW was original...sooooo

[ninsigma]

Definitely yes to the first 2.

A glider makes sense but could just end up being a copy of BOTW.

I think the different bows to do different things works really well so I I'd like that to stay as is.

Climbing definitely needs improvement.

[BlakHavoc]

I agree about the climbing, it was a little too absurd imo. I enjoyed the climbing in UC4 more.

[ninsigma]

It was to simple. A part from the long jumps, you only had to point in the direction you wanted to go and Aloy would jump if there was a slot. It was serviceable but something more sophisticated next time would be great!

[-Foxtrot]

Gliders have been in games like Far Cry 3 and before that so come on

Just because Zelda includes a gameplay feature doesn't mean it's original.

The Bows don't do different things though, the Arrows do. Having it so you need a different bow for another arrow is stupid. You could easily upgrade the bow you have.

[BlakHavoc]

A glider? Just cause it's in Zelda doesn't mean it's required in every game now.

[-Foxtrot]

IT'S NOT A ZELDA THING

Far Cry 3 - Gliders
Far Cry 4 - Wingsuits
GTA - Parachutes
Come on...

[BlakHavoc]

You're right, but why not just be able to mount flying machines and just use those instead. I don't think a glider would be required.

[Sunny_D]

Okay, Zelda may have not been the first but now you're just gonna be asking to be like all other games.

[Sunny_D]

I don't think I need the glider from cliffs to be added in. That would be too much like Horizon. But maybe parachuting from a flying machine if you're riding them.

[BlakHavoc]

Yes! Jump off glinthawk or Stormbird and glide using some sort of parachute, now that I'm down with. I want to jump off a Stormbird and stealth kill a sawtooth on the ground as well. Hell make it to where I can kill glinthawks while mounted on a Stormbird, but then also be able to jump off and onto a glinthawk mid air, kill it, jump off and call your Stormbird while falling and have it catch you. Lol ok maybe I'm getting too crazy with it, but that sounds awesome.

[-Foxtrot]

Because maybe you don't have time to call down or capture a flying creature

There's so many times in Horizon when you just want to get down to the bottom of the cliff the fastest and having a parachute or glider would that opens up mid air would allow you to do that.

[Cybermario]

would be nice to see indeed

[Noxrest]

I'll would like some more deep in sidequest mechanics wise, a good example are the hunters test sidequest, they offer great fun with tasks other than kill x machines or follow this track.

[jokerisalive]

this game is amazing on so many levels and a sequel will be unreal imo. I am sure GG will deliver with a sequel in time. I would love if they work on it slowly and give us Killzone 5 in the meantime as there have been rumors of it.

[BlakHavoc]

Nah leave KZ alone for a while. If they were to work on 5 then we wouldn't get a sequel to Horizon for a long time, and I'd much rather have Horizon than KZ.

[Relientk77]

Just wait and release it on PlayStation 5

[BlakHavoc]

Why?

[sampson3121]

just give us more please

[sampson3121]

would love to see a big budget movie with a serious director and top tier actors. not like transFormers but more like LoTR

[Vizigoth04]

I would like to be able to switch between armor sets quickly.

[BlakHavoc]

Yes! Just deeper customization all together. I don't want armor sets but rather individual pieces I can try out together. Helmets, Gauntlets, Boots, chest plates, etc. Also the ability to dye pieces of armor, and change Aloys hair style. As I've mentioned before I'd love a deep crafting system where you can craft your own weapons as well, get the required parts from machines, create the weapon and then choose what type of ammo it'll utilize.

[StormLegend]

Am I the only one who wants to see a giant Snake machine? Kinda like a titanboa!

[Speak_da_Truth]

Give me a gorilla and snake type machine and more machines. I can't wait!!

[Majin-vegeta]

Underwater battles
Sky battles-
Ability to swing on trees

[mocaak]

More climbing freedom and better face animations are the two things that I want to see in the next entry the most. Everything else was really well done, just some minor changes and improvements, like improved characters, more weapons, more robots, deeper story, and the next Horizon would be a true masterpiece, even better than the first one.

[SoldierTypeNtGen]

And add a repair system would be cool aswell .

[Dark_Knightmare2]

What do you mean by repair system because if you're talking about repairing weapons and armor after use hell no that's not immersive or fun it's just tedious and a waste

[one2thr]

Not a waste, its a good option. If added, you literally dont have to use it.

Heck, it could be a tool that you have to equip like how it is now, just the same as some of the weapons I rarely use.

[SoldierTypeNtGen]

@Dark_Knightmare2 , technically you couldn't repair her weapons because she uses a bow&arrow she doesn't actually hit with unless its her spear,im just talking about her armor aspect.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

The worst thing about Horizon is that they created their own Sixth Sense. Hopefully they don't pull a Shyamalan from here on out.

[SoldierTypeNtGen]

I can also see another good weapon type that they can add like a (spring snare net trap) that would be sick !!

[one2thr]

Man, I can't wait.

Been wondering how'd Guerilla Games manage a battle against a "Titan",[Huge robot with tendrils that span across multiple mountains]

SN: DeathBringers are a lot easier to deal with compared to Thunderjaws, and Rockbreakers.

Well, "Redmaw", gave me the most problems.

[PistolsAtDawn]

The stroy/voice acting was actually the weak point of that game for me...so I could care less what they do with the story really. The gameplay was the best part about Horizon...so they could just open up the world and say "Go kill robots" and I'd probably be fine with it. I'd hope they would expand on the gameplay though a bit just to keep it interesting. Like if you could ride flying robots after you train them and perhaps a glider you could make so maybe you could float into bandit camps from nearby cliffs or something.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

I thought the story was actually really good and unique compared to other sci fi stories. The lore is actually really deep and I give props to john Gonzalez for crafting such an amazing universe and story

[one2thr]

What?

The story, was not weak at all.

*SPOILERS*

Each robot had its own individual purpose. Some cleanse the land. Some cleanse the water. Some cleanse the air.
Some protect.

There was a mechanical virus[Nano bots], that consumed/digested ALL biomass[Plant, Animal, Humans] into fuel to sustain itself.

And humanities last ditch effort, was sending the remaining humans as soldiers to their deaths as a means to give Earths last remaining scientist enough time to create some sort of Ark that acted as a biomechanical womb, that housed and protected civilizations past and future.

While an apparent self aware Ai, was creating some sort of algorithum to shut down said virus.[The process took hundreds of years to complete], even though "her", casing was compromised.

Theres so much more, that I dont have time to add, but a weak story, is something this game does not have.

Maybe your doing side quest only or something.

[crazychris4124]

Robot sharks with freakin lasers attached to their heads

[rainslacker]

I'm sure GG can pull that off. If it were Activision, then it'd just be ill tempered Sea bass.

[Abnor_Mal]

Loved the music of this game and the backgroud ambience. Many times while tracking a machine I would listen to the birds and then hear the sound of drums or hollowed out wooden logs being drummed on giving the game imo a very Perdator feel. Add to that trying to fight a Ravager which will cloak and uncloak during the fight. Yeah, I see you motherf***er, in the trees those eyes they disappeared.

[Majin-vegeta]

https://lh3.googleuserconte...

[joab777]

I want a Horizon 2 but it's like I wanna see what other crazy ideas they have too! What I don't want is a simple retread with minimal upgrades.

[frostypants]

Just open up the climbing aspect a bit...make it more dynamic and based on the object models, vs. only letting us climb very restricted areas. If I see a ruined highrise with windows easily within my reach, let me grab them and climb. Also, maybe spend a little more time making all the NPC facial models of equal quality. Beyond that I don't have many suggestions. The gameplay is flat out amazing.

I think Horizon 2 would make a great PS5 launch title. Imagine what they could do with something that will likely be double the power of the PS4 Pro.

[sampson3121]

"Horizon's Sequel Would Have To Have An Equally Deep Story & More Machines"

what an odd title to an article.

kind of negative no?

put that as a title for say an article about there being a Witcher 4.