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Xbox Boss Finds the Concept of Modular Upgrading Consoles "A Stretch"

When Microsoft first announced Project Scorpio as an upgraded variant of Xbox One, many began wondering about the possibility of modular consoles.

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Maltaze3005d ago

Well, i guess that is a given considering it wont make them so much money in terms of ROI on R&D and the whole concept of coding for 1 hardware platform a "stretch" so to speak.

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Phill-Spencer3004d ago

Hmm i wouldn't mind having a console where i can insert not any, but a specific (licenced) graphics card. Console manufacturers could unlock the ability at a certain point in time, let's say after 3 years, via firmware update or even from the get go for those who want their premium product from the beginning and therefore are willing to pay more.

Phill-Spencer3004d ago (Edited 3004d ago )

Nope, because on pc you could choose between a boatload of graphics cards, not to mention different cpu's, different size of ram.

I was talking about 1 specific expansion/ exchange graphic card dictated by sony or ms, so there wouldn't be a million different setups. I mean we already have midgen upgrades anyway, so why not eliminate the need to buy a new console, but give the option to buy 1 selected video card for the purpose of an optional midgen upgrade?

A slot which i can open, pull out the old card and push in the new one, is what i think of.

JasonKCK3004d ago (Edited 3004d ago )

Yeah but what good will updating just the graphics card be when it will just eclipse the other hardware? You would never be able to use that tech to it's full advantage if the rest of the hardware is 2 or 3 generations behind. Some people overkill RAM in their PC's when the CPU/GPU get old but see very little performance boost. I get what you're saying but in this scenario a PC would be the best option.

agent45323004d ago

Then get a PC if you are interested in changing hardware.

one2thr3004d ago (Edited 3004d ago )

I think the Nintendo 64 did something like that. I remember being able to or having to change the original black expansion/jumper pak, to a red expansion/jumper pak, in order to play Majoras Mask, and the Perfect Dark campaign, hell you couldnt even play with certain guns until you changed the expansion/jumper pak(I honesty think it was called that)

Phill-Spencer3004d ago (Edited 3004d ago )

That was what i referring to. In n64's case it was the ram expansion. And at this time the difference wowed me.

TheCommentator3004d ago

Ironically, the ram expansion pak only worked on games designed to support it, and didn't help with framerates on other titles. Not like a computer at all.

Turok 2 was amazing with the expansion. Awesome graphics for its day.

WickedLester3004d ago (Edited 3004d ago )

The problem is that the price of a new graphics card costs as much or more than a new console. If you're going to take the time and expense of upgrading the graphics card on a console, you might as well buy a new console.

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FallenAngel19843004d ago

Good thing modular consoles aren't coming to pass

Gaming_Cousin3004d ago

But Xbox Boss thought that giving away all of its exclusives to PC wasn't a stretch?

Condemnedman3004d ago

i don't understand how having more people play a game hurts me and my xbox? if People are gaming on pc's it makes no difference apart from they get more sales.

Uglyday3004d ago

I would have eventually got a Xone for Forza. Now I have one XboxOne game in a browser I will never open again and zero want or need for the console itself.

The things MS has done to itself to hurt their player base are many and varied but this is still one of them.

TheUndertaker853004d ago (Edited 3004d ago )

Uglyday: Do please show me which browser plays Xbox One games.

I'm sure everyone wants to build or get a PC with the recommended specs for one game instead of spend less on a console that plays the same game.
http://www.pcgamer.com/forz...

Oh wait, that's different markets to sell to. Hrm...

TheCommentator3004d ago (Edited 3004d ago )

Uglyday, they hurt their player base by getting you play their game on PC? That actually adds to the player base since they sold you a copy of the game. MS makes little profit off of HW, yet they make tons off of SW. More money means more investment into Xbox as a brand. Nobody loses.

Einhander19713004d ago

Personally I would like to be able to buy an add on through the consoles life to give a significant boost. Hopefully cheaper than buying a whole new system.

agent45323004d ago

That's exactly what you get with a PC. I am sorry, so console simplicity doesn't matter anymore. Really, why do I want to change parts for a console when is already done on a PC

shiva13004d ago

Do you say that everybody has a PC capable of running games or everybody would buy new console every 3 or so years?

I know i wont be changing my TV for sure. Also xbox boss already stated that if this sort of thing is coming then he did not want his users to take up a screw driver to change the stuff. It should be something like slide out the old part and slide in the new part.

I am more interested in this thing if the system while booting says which part is dead so that i can order that specific part and get back on gaming in as less time as possible. No need to go through customer service for as long as 5 yrs.

But ya thats just me. Only gamer asking for this sort of thing in gaming industry so im not heard anyway.

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E3 EA Play 2017 – Star Wars Battlefront 2, Battlefield 1, FIFA 18, NFL Madden: Longshot, A Way Out

So the dust has settled from EA’s E3 2017 ‘EA PLAY’ event and we sit down to discuss our favourite moments. FIFA 18 and Madden 18 both receive their yearly refresh but with huge f…

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Elder Scrolls Online Project Scorpio Update to Copy PS4 Pro

We talk to the creative director of Elder Scrolls Online, Rich Lambert, about Project Scorpio and potential E3 announcements.

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SlappingOysters2941d ago

Microsoft needs to be encouraging devs to do more than just clone what they did for PS4 Pro in my opinion, given it is a more powerful machine.

IamTylerDurden12941d ago

TESO is native 4K with HDR on PS4 Pro. What more do u expect on Scorpio? If ppl really believe the Crap Gamer rhetoric that every game will be native 4K 60fps on Scorpio then they will be sorely disappointed. In fact, there will certainly be a fair share of 3rd party games with parity between Pro and Scorpio.

freshslicepizza2941d ago

"In fact, there will certainly be a fair share of 3rd party games with parity between Pro and Scorpio."

That's called laziness if it happens. Many PS4 titles are 1080p and 900p on Xbox One so why do parity now? Please provide the proof of any claims Scorpio is supposed to be a 4k60fps console? You can't just tell developers to all of the sudden make 60fps games.

Goldby2941d ago

@Moldy

tyler is talkign about the fanboys thinking every game is going to be 4k 60fps on scorpio because... scoprio.

Laziness or proper budgeting? There wont nearly be as many ps4 pros or scorpios out there compared to the ps4 and xbox 1s so why would they go about making a patch for one and a separate patch for another one (that isn't even out yet)

at the end of the day, developers need to see some sort of return on their investment, and with ESO patch for pro making it 4k and HDR compatible, why is it a bad thing that the Scorpio is matching those?

freshslicepizza2941d ago (Edited 2941d ago )

@Goldby
"tyler is talkign about the fanboys thinking every game is going to be 4k 60fps on scorpio because... scoprio"

You guys keep saying this without naming names because in reality it's Sony fans trying to project unrealistic expectations so that they can say it didn't meet this imaginary threshold.

This difference in resolution started at the beginning of this generation, when there were zero sold yet. There was no parity at the beginning but you guys seem to hope it starts now, not surprisingly.

Goldby2941d ago

@Moldy

i'm not gonna go look through thousands of pages to see the 4k 60fps comments. i have more important things to do that waste my time debunking your ps4 fanboy comment.

There are people on the xbox forums (deamonisfear ebing one of them ) that has on regular basis said 4k60fps for scoprio.

and again, you didnt answer my question.
at the end of the day, developers need to see some sort of return on their investment, and with ESO patch for pro making it 4k and HDR compatible, why is it a bad thing that the Scorpio is matching those?

is it such a bad thing for tyhe developers to take a patch they already have, and make it work for the Xbox Scorpio, instead of investing a lot of extra time makign a specific patch for a console that will be a fraction of the actual xbox fanbase?

IamTylerDurden12940d ago

Moldy

The crap gamer crew goes around telling ppl that every game will be 4k 60 on Scorpio. I've seen it.

U don't remember Ubisoft and thier push for parity earlier this gen? It was absolutely a thing.

This is totally different than the PS4 and xb1 having parity anyway. These are extra consoles with a VERY limited install base. Don't u understand that? The likelihood of parity between Pro and Scorpio is far greater than the likelihood of parity between PS4 and xb1 bc the install base is so comparatively low on Pro and Scorpio it wouldn't necessarily be worth it financially to make 2 distinct premium console versions. Do u get that?

Goldby2938d ago

@Moldy
"You guys keep saying this without naming names because in reality it's Sony fans trying to project unrealistic expectations so that they can say it didn't meet this imaginary threshold."

how about you name off the sony fans who are projecting this unrealistic expectation.

don't worry moldy, i'll wait

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BigWan782941d ago

"Well, can I approach it from a different angle then and ask you, what do you think consoles of the future like Project Scorpio need to do to make the most of the MMO genre?

I would definitely say power is key. Memory is key. Especially in a game like The Elder Scrolls Online. There are hundreds of characters running around on the screen at any one time. We can have a 300 person battle in our game and that eats up memory. That eats up computing power and it eats up VRAM. So, the more they can pack into those newer consoles, the better."

IamTylerDurden12941d ago

I'm not surprised, TESO is native 4K on Pro. Ppl love to scoff at the non native 4K games on Pro and ignore the actual games that achieve it.

soulsx2941d ago

Scorpio is not much powerfull than ps4pro diferences in quality of games be only on resolution. But ps4 pro give us too high res in games. Normal player don't see a differences.

BigWan782941d ago (Edited 2941d ago )

@soulsx

but there's a difference between resolution and graphics...

4k resolution is 4k no matter how u slice the pie.. but when you talk textures/graphics, that can make it night and day difference even to the non-gamer...

i still think HDR is the true hotness though...