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You sent Activision the wrong message, Call of Duty fans

CarlosX360 Writes: "On February 9, 2017 - Activision announced record-breaking revenues across all of their franchises, Activision announced that Infinite Warfare's sales were down from Black Ops 3, Activision announced that a new Call of Duty title is coming, and Activision also announced layoffs to 5% of their workforce. Where is Call of Duty going? What are Activision's challenges? How to solve these challenges?"

Sherif1293032d ago (Edited 3032d ago )

I don't think the author gets the fact that people want boots on ground only, and we're not going to pay $60 for the legacy edition, just to get that with COD4. A lot of us are waiting until COD4 is released separately. I'd rather pay ~$30 just for COD4 than $60 with Infinite Warfare that I'll never play

PapaBop3032d ago

Pretty much this, my money is ready and waiting for COD4 at a reasonable price but not paying £40+ for the legacy edition which includes a game I have zero interest in.

thekhurg3032d ago

Except that the Infinite Warfare campaign is actually exceptionally well made, has a ton of missions with varied gameplay, a decent story and high production values.

Klonoa-dreamtraveler3032d ago

infinite warfare multiplayer is just garbage the campaign i thought was ok well at least on veteran mode i bought everything including the season pass i won't even bother jumping on to try the new maps i am just fed up with the double jumping and jet packs i completely go straight to cod4 remastered i really doubt they are gonna sell that separately as you NEED infinite warfare disc for cod4 to work but even going on cod4 the respawning is bad as the usual problems still happen with spawn killing that's something infinity ward and treyarc need to tackle some how.

Sherif1293032d ago (Edited 3032d ago )

The story may well be good, but many hated the multiplayer of IW from the beta; paying an extra $30 for the Legacy edition just isn't worth it for the 4-5 hour campaign. I and many others would much rather just get COD4 on its own.

FinalFantasyFanatic3031d ago

I feel like Titanfall 2 did Infinite Warfare's multi-player better, but both games had decent campaigns, so...

vickers5003031d ago

@sherif

The average length of IW is 8 hours, via howlongtobeat, which in my experience has been pretty damned accurate.

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Kreisen3032d ago (Edited 3032d ago )

See this is the thing about "fans" and why devs tend to ignore them. Its statements like "COD is dead becouse no boots on the ground". Yeah clearly Infinite Warfare has damaged the COD IP forever by being the best selling game of 2016. Oh and im sure all those CEOs are crying themselfs to sleep after pulling in over a billion every year for almost 12 years in a row off COD alone.
If anything they are probably wondering why people are such idiots. They complained COD was getting stale so Activision hired more people and put COD on a 3 year dev cycle. As a result later games started introducing boosting, running on walls etc. All of this was added to spice up the gameplay. It changed the game mechanically but nobody cares. Nobody cares becouse fans supposedly want boots on the ground......oh and a new setting rofl.

Kokyu3032d ago (Edited 3032d ago )

COD is stale and beginning to show signs it wont be able to sustain previous year numbers. CEO and stock holders dont care how a game preforms over its life time of a series they care how well the current issue is doing not a series. The fact infinite warfare sold less than BO3 shows is a bad sign to them as they only want to see sales increase year on year and Infinite warfare wasnt the best selling game of 2016 not by a long shot.

The fans of CoD saying its stale is in refence to the sole real focus being on MP. The majority of the fan base isnt 12yrs old anymore, its growing up and wanting more from a beloved franchise. CoD 3yr cycle is a joke just as yearly versions of the same game is a joke. 3 and 1 yr cycles leave you running out of ideas. The new Cod will most likely sell even less than infinite warfare.

Look at battlefield 1 thats an example of a new approach that people are loving. CoD so go back to the WWII era for a bit or maybe the civil war something.

Teflon023032d ago

I'm pretty that's because it released on everything and people wanted cod4. Almost everyone i know, even YouTubers bought it for that alone. I wouldn't, I'll wait but it's what they choose. If you speak by platform I think uncharted 4 might be the best seller on a single platform for the year

FinalFantasyFanatic3031d ago

Sure it's not franchise fatigue, I mean, we get a new one every year, hard to keep the same game fresh every year. Personally I like the sci-fi direction we're going in but Infinite Warfare feels clunky to me.

vickers5003031d ago

@kokyu

BF1 is a huge disappointment. Too few weapons and what weapons there are are mostly clones of each other.

No choppers and that piece of shit rocket launcher that can only be fired prone, or on one of the many too-small/too-high to mount window or door shaped cutouts. Shooting stuff down with rockets or piloting a chopper were my favorite things to do in bf and now they're both gone or nerfed.

The setting isn't really that great either, the maps are forgettable except for maybe singhai desert and the newer free map. Ww1 is just not a good setting for large scale multiplayer.

It's better then infinite warfare, but that isn't saying much, and it has to do more with dev talent than the setting.

Scifi setting fps games have been done well, two or 3 times now, with blops 3(best cod in a long time), titanfall 1, and especially titanfall 2, which is the best damned mp fps in a long ass time, I'd put it up there with cod 4. Shame it didn't get a chance to shine like cod 4 did.

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Universal 083031d ago

Honestly I thought the same thing, until I actually said screw it and tried out Infinite Warfare. Lets just say as much fun as COD 4 was....IW was better. This comes from playing the Remastered COD4 first. So whoever hasnt actually played Infinite Warfare is definitely missing out.

Fluke_Skywalker3031d ago (Edited 3031d ago )

I actually like Infinite Warfare, it's a good game.
I downloaded COD4 remaster and had a great nostalgia trip for about half an hour before realising that it was showing its age badly. Turned it off so as not to ruin my memory of it and have never went back.
Seriously it just feels old and plays old.

EazyC3031d ago

Still waiting, even then I might wait if it's released at over €30 when it comes out

Trekster_Gamer3031d ago

I loved CODIW and the REMASTER. It for me was money well spent. The SciFi story was great and really changed it up for me.

BenRC013031d ago

Still best selling game of the year.

Rude-ro3031d ago

Hopefully they realize this with their success with destiny. Destiny can be their futuristic title with hopping around everywhere...
Cod can go back to being their milatary shooter

SirBradders3031d ago

Yeah let titanfall do jetpacks. Cod needs to go back to roots.

ZombieKiller3031d ago

Yeah trust me, IW is pretty bad. The big thing that I hate is that they added so much to it, that it doesn't feel like a COD anymore. Its not tactical, its random. I made the mistake of buying it for MWR and ugh....

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Ristul3032d ago

I remember when COD Modern Warfare came out, everything felt new and fresh. I don't ever get that feeling from a COD game anymore, but if they return to boots on ground and change settings to vietnam for example, I would not be able to resist buying it.

sackboyhappy3031d ago

what about the ridiculously old engine that they're still using and the lack of dedicated servers for consoles?

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senorfartcushion3032d ago

Inifnite Warfare is exactly what people are theoretically asking for.

It was a fantastic game and as a person with the Legacy Edition, it was a lot easier for me to play IW than CoD 4 RM

It was faster, smoother and the story was better.

FinalFantasyFanatic3031d ago

I thought so too, but the multi-player doesn't feel good, Titanfall 2's multi-player fills the same spot better, but it doesn't have COD's popularity to help it.

senorfartcushion3031d ago

Oh, i never played the MP lol

It was crap XD

CoD games are single player only to me.

FinalFantasyFanatic3031d ago

@SenorFartCushion, I was the same way until I got a decent internet connection.

Nathan_Hale533031d ago

No, people are asking for boots on the ground because most FPS games nowadays are all super fast future type game.

senorfartcushion3030d ago

Yeah they are.

My point is that slow and methodical will just take some getting used to. I played IW over MWR due to this. Even some reviews stated that .

vickers5003030d ago

People don't know what they want in regards to CoD anymore, they're just guessing out of their ass.

You'll get a "boots on the ground" cod next year and every single one of you complainers will bitch just as much as you did with the scifi cods, claiming you want something new and fresh. You don't actually want cod, you just think you do.

What you actually want, is a new god damned franchise all together, because cod can't be cod unless it's the same fucking thing over and over again. You create a new engine, overhaul the gameplay to be tactical and/or slower paced and it ceases to be cod.

At this point, cod criticizers are just like spoiled children who demand their parents to make them something and then spit it out as soon as they get it and then demand something else, and then spit that out too, over and over again.

CoD critics don't want cod, they just want to see how much power they have to control Activision to make CoD into their image. Of course most don't know this.

I certainly didn't realize this for a long time myself and used to bitch about cod just as much as everyone else. Then it finally hit me, cod is cod, cod will ALWAYS be cod, and cod will NEVER the amazing franchise it was when West and Zampella were at the helm.

People still delude themselves into thinking the setting is what made past cods great, they think "well cod games didn't start turning to shit until all the scifi stuff was added, that's the reason cod isn't good anymore". It wasn't the reason. It was those two devs at the helm that made cod great, West and Zampella. Cod flat out sucked after they left (except for treyarchs games, they varied from mediocre, to just barely hitting "good" status).

If you want cod to stop disappointing you, then you must accept it for what it is NOW, not for what it USED to be, because no matter the setting, it'll never be as good as it once was.

If you find yourself complaining about cod games pretty frequently, then you really need to think honestly about why. You need to ask yourself , "do I actually still like this franchise? Or did I just like the ones made by west and zampela?".

Of course treyarch did well with blops 1 and waw, but I don't think if treyarch went back to those settings, they wouldn't add something that everyone hated, because Activision would probably make them whether they wanted to or not.

DillyDilly3032d ago

People like it the author does not the author should get a grip

CarlosX3603030d ago

Not even, Specter... There's a reason why I used an image of earth as a story image. It's the ending credits of Infinite Warfare.

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Call of Duty VR Games - Will They Ever Happen?

The VR industry has long awaited sign of true Call of Duty VR games, but will it ever happen? And does it need to happen?

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crazyCoconuts722d ago

I don't think it's in Activision's DNA to stick their neck out on something like this unfortunately. They've got a surefire winner with COD so why risk a winning formula.
fwiw, Firewall Zero Hour was more fun than COD for me, but obviously didn't have the same user base and budget
I wonder hypothetically if a non-VR COD style game were to integrate VR players, could you even balance such a thing out. I'm guessing no.

TheEnigma313722d ago

No it won't. They are lazy and people will buy anyways

ApocalypseShadow722d ago

Highly unlikely at the moment. Executives are more concerned with being bought by Daddy Warbucks and golden parachutes than moving VR forward. They had a chance last gen but released a spaceship, combat demo instead. COD would increase VR awareness but if they were bought, the same thing that happened to other developers under Microsoft would happen to them.

Just consider, before being bought by Microsoft, Bethesda had Skyrim and Wolfenstein Cyber pilot. Ninja Theory had Hell Blade, Dexed and helped with Vader Immortal. Inxile had Mage's Tale. Double Fine had Psychonauts. ID Software had Doom VFR and Doom 3. Compulsion had We Happy Few: Uncle Jack Live.

Ever since the purchase of those developers, zero VR games announced or released. And since Microsoft continues to shun VR, Activision games like COD wouldn't have VR either under them.

Firewall, Crossfire, Pavlov, and whoever else makes an FPS game in VR, will have to do for the time being. Maybe Sony will make one like Killzone or Resistance in VR. Also surprised that Valve didn't put Counterstrike in VR.

poppatron722d ago

I think the experience would be so different to traditional CoD and share so little with it that there would be no point in pinning the CoD label on it. I think Pavlov is about as close as you’ll get

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Xbox Fans Call Out 'Activision's Greed' Over Call Of Duty Digital Prices

This week's Deals with Gold selection on Xbox has rubbed certain Xbox fans the wrong way, as several Call of Duty titles are still ludicrously priced - despite being discounted by up to 67% off over the next few days.

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VersusDMC1380d ago

How is 20 dollars for X360 call of duty games "ludicrously" overpriced?

And with Activision's lawer bills skyrocketing at the moment you are not going to be seeing deep discounts for a bit.

Chevalier1380d ago

Pretty sure that's the sale off that's 60% off. After the sale ends that 360 game is still listed at $49.99, right not its $19.99 because the 60% off.

VersusDMC1380d ago

I guess they can wait for the next sale then.

SullysCigar1380d ago

It's nice to see the Xbox community stand up for themselves though. That's been needed for a long time.

InUrFoxHole1379d ago

For a long time? Its the reason xbox is killing it this gen.

senorfartcushion1380d ago

Lawsuits don’t cost billions, they’re ALWAYS going to be fine for money.

They could stack their bills on the ground and fill half the continent of Africa at this point.

RaiderNation1379d ago

Because Xbox fans are so used to playing games on the Xbox EBT subscription service, the idea of paying anything for a game seems ludicrous to them.

MadLad1379d ago (Edited 1379d ago )

You pay for the service.

Do you have Amazon Video?
Hulu?
Netflix?

It's a subscription service. Not a charity. You're literally going at people over the idea of using a pro consumer service, and that's the real joke here.

thorstein1379d ago

When records were sold, they were eventually replaced by tapes, which cost less to manufacture, but more to buy. Then CDs came along and were cheaper to manufacture, but cost more at retail. Digital, of course, is the cheapest yet, but billion dollar corporations want to charge the same.

And no, that money is not going to the person sitting in the chair actually making the game.

It is pure and utter greed from people who don't need any more money.

InUrFoxHole1379d ago

Lol calm down Bobby. You crapped on thus franchise.

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autobotdan1380d ago (Edited 1380d ago )

"Many have also noted how the multiplayer in several of these titles is either dead or filled with hackers, meaning players are paying a hefty sum for a short campaign and potentially some zombie modes."

With these clear truths the decades older COD games should be permanently 19.99 regular price and sale prices 7.99 minimum

autobotdan1380d ago

Typo sale prices 2.99 minimum and 9.99 maximum. Older COD tiles seven years old or older should never be over 20 dollars regular price

senorfartcushion1380d ago

I have paid less than 3 dollars for some AAA PS4 games, old 360 CoD games should not be $20

FanboysKiller1380d ago

Any fps game runs by the quirk engine follows this logic
Eat
Sleep
Die instantly
Repeat
As if the main purpose of the game more of "repeat" than the actual gameplay experience , any noob in this game will tell you his mind stucked in repeating the sequence number of deaths than the gameplay itself , what a complete pile of #.

EvertonFC1380d ago

It's why I don't play cod anymore, my 45yr old hands can't compete with these kids 😂 🤣
1 kill to every 10 deaths is not fun

John_McClane1379d ago

Don't let that stop you if you enjoy the game, it's actually pretty good for hand/eye coordination.

lipton1011379d ago

Try Escape from Tarkov. It forces you to slow down and think. I’m not a fan of the ADD speed of CoD

Father__Merrin1380d ago

All the back compat titles are cheap listing when you scroll through them u till you come to black ops it's a complete rip off

Rhythmattic1380d ago (Edited 1380d ago )

Well... Don't buy it..... Is it really that hard to comprehend?
Everything else you choose to purchase with your hard earned cash , so should games be held to the same reasoning....
Just don't give em the cash....

Entitlement that's bizarre, from the publisher and from the consumer.... Thats pretty fkd up if you think about it...

GhostofHorizon1380d ago

It's hilarious that some people don't see this as an option.

MadLad1379d ago

Bananas now cost $30 a pound. There's no good reason for it, but if you want bananas, there you go.

You don't have to buy them.

It's about their constant greed when handling the franchise. Nobody has to buy anything, but when a company doesn't follow corporate norms when selling their product; overpricing their old wares just because they can, the consumer is allowed to call that out.

GhostofHorizon1379d ago

Consumer can call them out, but I think they are going about it the wrong way.

The reason they get away with everything they do is simply because they can. They can charge $20 for a skin pack because people will gladly buy it. There is plenty of competition for FPS games, it's not like it's a niche market.

I know it's easier to blame and demand better from Activision than people that keep buying these overpriced items. If they weren't being bought, Activision would lower the price though. People like to pretend to take the high road but wouldn't you rather sell the banana for $30 than $3 if people are willing to buy it?

franwex1379d ago

@therealtedcruz

I think there’s a virus destroying the banana and may even go extinct. So maybe that’s why.

I think it’s happen before too.

MadLad1379d ago

A small subset buys those skins and whatnot. Most players don't. The "whale" mindset is pretty accurate across the board, where there's a small handful who buy a lot, and most who don't buy any. Either way, that means they're imposed on the majority either way.

That's different from overpricing your game though. Activision easily makes their money off every release, then milks it until the next release, then throws it away. They never put significant sales on even a release from several cycles ago. Whether it sells or not.

And I mean, yeah; if I were a business, I'd probably want to make as much money as possible.
But I'm not a business; I'm a consumer, thus I find many businesses to be complete assholes.

Rhythmattic1373d ago

And people are still blaming the high prices but suggest they're still wiling to buy it... Not too smart are you peoples....

Its a non regulated pricing structure, sure , many play by the status-quo , but to actually complain by complaining, instead of standing your ground and not buying it, by buying it , you are the reason its happening....

Idiots, Idiots everywhere.... What? So those that are complaining don't want to pay the money, but cant do without it?

FFS. Entitlement level 5000...
Drink some cement and harden the Fk up!

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Sitdown1380d ago

The article and title isn't saying that people are buying it, its simply saying that they are calling them out for greed. I guess you had a problem with people calling out Microsoft for trying to increase the price of Live, and don't understand how voicing concern led to them backing away from the decision.

Teflon021379d ago

People need to put that energy into Nintendo's Pricing over Activisions tbh. They're focused on the wrong things

Rhythmattic1373d ago (Edited 1373d ago )

Greed? Ok... Dont buy it and prove that by being greedy , they got it wrong... Not that hard to understand is it?
To Add... I haven't bought Cod since MW2.... Because of these exact practices.... Fact.

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Ranking The Top 10 Call of Duty Games Of All-Time

Andrew says: "The intrinsic values of COD are the following: memorable campaigns, meticulous multiplayer marathons, and lobbies populated by screaming 12-year-old kids that think puberty is the evolved form of Jigglypuff."

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