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Ready at Dawn's "Deformers" To Get Open Beta; Will Run on Same Engine as The Order 1886

Ready at Dawn's Deformers will run on the engine built for The Order: 1886 and will support PlayStation 4 Pro with specific enhancements.

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masterfox3060d ago (Edited 3060d ago )

Engine as The Order 1886 ?, very versatile engine I must say, now if is possible can we get a The Order 1886 sequel ? , 1886 was short but it was damn amazing.

Nitrowolf23060d ago

Agreed

I really hope it doesn't end up being like Heavenly sword or lair. I know lair isn't the greatest game out there but I really do wish that Sony would revisit it, I feel it has a lot of potential.

Same deal with Heavenly sword, it truly was a great title for its time.

All I'm saying is I don't want the order to become a wasted IP that's just lying around the game deserves a sequel in regards to hell good they was. yes it has faults but that's why it needs a sequel to improve

Abash3060d ago

The Order was decent, it had amazing gun fights and shooting gameplay.... but there was not nearly enough of it nor was there enough enemy variety.

If there is a sequel to it one day, it really needs to set out to do more this time around.

GtR35olution3059d ago

The order 1886 is one of the best games ive ever played and im hoping there will be a new one.

nveenio3059d ago

I'd love to see The Order get a sequel. It could only get better, and has the potential to be a killer franchise. Sony and R@D are crazy to let that one go.

bouzebbal3059d ago

The atmosphere of the order has no equal this gen in my eyes. It's so mature and so well directed. I really hope they jump back in. They just need to make it longer and vary on the boss fights.

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Nyxus3060d ago

Agreed, I would love a sequel. Does Sony own the IP or RAD?

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Kurisu3059d ago

It seems like a waste of an engine to me :(

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sampson31213059d ago

The game is great. i want a sequel also.

IamTylerDurden13059d ago

A sequel would've already been announced had the media not (unfairly) absolutely blitzed RaD, Sony, and The Order 1886. It shattered Sony's relationship with RaD and likely killed a promising sequel in favor of rubbish like "Deformers". Sad. It's sad bc The Order was foolishly categorized as a Gears clone and completely misjudged. The Order was a piece of art not to be put in a box and destroyed for what misinformed ppl thought it wasn't.

I loved The Order and it's disheartening that RaD is putting time into a game like Deformers rather than The Order 1887. The world, engine, and lore of The Order had enormous potential for a sequel.

ninsigma3059d ago

The misinformation that went around for that game was mind blowing. I definitely enjoyed it but would like to see improvements. I hope a sequal does happen.

senorfartcushion3059d ago

No it wasn't, it was half a tech demo with half a story. It was simply there, like Ryse, to show off the power of the system.

It doesn't deserve praise.

Nyxus3059d ago

It was a great game. Played it twice.

ninsigma3059d ago

Ryse is also better than you give it credit for. Not as good as the order but still an ok game.

subtenko3059d ago

The Order: 1984

DO ITTTTT (only in the game I mean)

nevarDcirE3059d ago

I feel like The Order: 1984 would lose alot of the atmosphere of the original... Might as well make Teen Wolf: The game.

subtenko3059d ago

How about The Order: 1996, it'll be in the good ol 90's and all that jazz. Maybe it'll be based in bel'air and we'll play as a prince. The DLC could be pretty fresh too.

spicelicka3059d ago

I'm actually curious to know how a team goes from making something like the Order to this. Is it a different smaller team? Did someone just do a really good job of pitching this idea?

I'm not hating on this particular game, but I'm just wondering. If I was working at Ready at Dawn, I'd be stoke to be working on big AAA shooting game with Lycans, and if someone came and told my our next project was about cartoon piglets I'd be pretty confused.

Abdou0233059d ago

I really enjoyed the Order 1886, I hope they already working on a sequel on parallel with this garbage.

Nathan_Hale533059d ago (Edited 3059d ago )

Order was meh. I would personally never consider it amazing unless we're speaking about visuals, and maybe an interesting setting.

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RhymeNorReason3059d ago

@gtr35olution You're delusional. The Order was so bland. Lets make fun of Xbox games all day long but defend a bland PS4 game.

Psychonaut853059d ago

Ready at Dawn doesn't own The Order IP, Sony does. So it will be Sonys call as to what happens with it. Even if they do make a sequel Sony might give it to another studio.

DanteVFenris6663059d ago

It's no versitile than any other engine probably. Some people think the engine makes the game. It's the artists and programmers that make the game. The engine just makes it easier to develop. Because of build in things in them. Some older engines don't have all of the built in features as the newer or more popular ones.

ChronoJoe3059d ago

I'm not sure how this demonstrates it's a versatile engine. What did you think the orders engine was doing? Lighting, rendering, collision etc, same thing it's doing in this game. If this were an open world game then I'd understand where you were coming from because those games tend to feature a very different set of challenges, yet this game doesn't feature anything like that. The largest challenge here is probably integrating netcode.

It's also their own engine, so they build upon it in order to produce what they want for their next game. Using the same engine doesn't really mean anything at all, because I'm sure that engine is not the same for this game. If a broom has its head replaced, yet its handle remains the same, is it still the same broom?

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Rimeskeem3060d ago

Sony, please give Ready @ Dawn another chance at an Order sequel. Everyone knows what they are capable of, and now they know what people want.

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ChickenOfTheCaveMan3059d ago

I wouldn't mind but Sony has enough great1st party studios that could handle the sequel and bring it to the next level.

DivineAssault 3059d ago

I hope its good.. Im not gambling $60 on a new game anymore.. I wouldnt rule them out though, they are talented..

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ninsigma3059d ago

Such a strange departure from the order. This isn't my thing so I won't be getting it but good luck to them. I hope to see them making a sequal to the order. A lot of potential in that game, team and engine so I'd like to see them tackle another big project.

robtion3059d ago

What a waste of talent. RAD should be working on The Order franchise. Come on Sony.

ninsigma3059d ago

Agreed. This holds no interest for me at all but I'd be all over a sequal for the order.

StrawberryDiesel4203059d ago

I agree. If ever there was a petition in order (No pun intended) this warrants it. Give us The Order: 1887!!!

andrewsquall3059d ago

I guess that's what happens when you are a developer that WORKS FOR YOURSELF. Sony don't own Ready at Dawn and you clearly assume that they do. RAD can do whatever they want.
Hopefully they will talk to Sony about a sequel to The Order 1886 in the future, just stop being so entitled.

Phunkydiabetic13059d ago

The order was boring. It looked good and had the beginnings of a somewhat decent story but other than that it is shit. Just pure shit. Shit boss fights. Shit gameplay. Stupid shitty slow walking and shitty examining of shitty objects.

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343_Guilty_Spark3059d ago

Sony just keeps cranking away. Microsoft pay attention.

pody3059d ago

It's coming to Xbox as well, and PC. You obviously only read the title. :P

andrewsquall3059d ago

RAD aren't are were never owned by studio. Its weird when a studio puts out critically acclaimed games (like Daxter and the 2 GOW games on PSP), people assume that they must be a 1st party studio owned by Sony.
For years people even thought Metal Gear Solid was owned by Sony when it is simply a studio head that wants to make an incredible game that takes advantage of the architecture of the console they are making it for, rather than sell an underwhelming piece of crap to as much people as possible.

Noskypeno3059d ago

So why were all the PS2 MGS games exclusive to Sony when they couldve gotten more from the xbox

Yui_Suzumiya3058d ago

Metal Gear Solid 2 was released on the original Xbox though

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10 Games With Achievements & Trophies You Won't Get This Lifetime

Joe Y writes: With server closures, glitches, and broken patches, many games have unobtainable achievements and trophies. Here are the top 10 you can't 100% anymore.

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darthv722404d ago

"It sounds simple enough, but due to the expiration of licenses, one of the four songs, Promised Land by Vesuvius, is no longer available to download. If you previously had it downloaded, it will *not* be taken away, so you'll still be able to grab this one."

Well damn it. I really dig that song from The Rocker and I did not know it was in RB3. I stopped playing after RB2.

franwex2404d ago

Online achievement/trophies are dumb. I’m not sure why they still include them. I recall the modern warfare games were applauded for not including them.
Unless the game is an online only game because what choice is there at that point.

Skankinruby2404d ago

Uhm trophies are fantastic, they give you real reason to keep playing a game after you beat it

Christopher2404d ago

If you need trophies to keep playing a game after you beat it, then is the game worth playing any further? It's imaginary points, not better gaming. Good games will be replayed regardless of imaginary points.

Skankinruby2404d ago

@Christopher
That logic makes zero sense. It's most definitely 'worth playing further' as you go and do things you clearly didn't do the first time....hence why do didn't get the TROPHY. It's not about better/worse gaming, it's about a replay of a game feeling fresh and not redundant.

2pacalypsenow2404d ago

"Online achievement/trophies are dumb"

Christopher2404d ago

***It's most definitely 'worth playing further' as you go and do things you clearly didn't do the first time....hence why do didn't get the TROPHY.***

If you need a trophy to do something and not the fact that you enjoy it, is the game actually worth playing? Seriously, how is that a foreign concept? How is that nonsensical? I guess it's nonsense to someone who plays for trophies, but that's about all you're playing for when you promote the reason for doing more to just get trophies and not because you enjoy it.

mkis0072404d ago

Chris

In fairness sony did have that gold trophy auction for all those commercial props.

Would have loved to have enough trophies for that.

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agnosticgamer2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

Pretty ignorant statement to have... there are lots of fun achievements/trophies to be had playing online... I've never played through the single-player campaign in any COD... but had lots of fun playing online... Companies have to be sure to cater to all gamers when it comes to achievements/trophies... a good mix is never a bad thing...

franwex2404d ago

...except if you want to play a game online a couple of years later and not being able to, hence from getting all the trophies.
I’m not obsessed with getting every achievement/trophy but if I like the game I may try to. I’m simply being punished for not discovering the game earlier.

agnosticgamer2404d ago

Most games... minus complete failures last much...much longer online than I believe you are giving credit for...

OneEyedSteve2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

Half of these are false .. The Evolve one can still unlocked... Ghostbusters is only unachievable on PS3 its still online on 360.. Destiny 2 one is only unobtainable for a while as said by bungie... GTAV one can still be unlocked too in a private game. And the Black Ops 3 one can still be unlocked using a few different methods. Guy who wrote this is clueless.

Majors2404d ago

When a games server goes offline then they should allow users to create their own p2p servers to keep these games active. They should also unlock or delete the trophies from any list to those who havent got them.

darthv722404d ago

I can think of a few honorable mentions. there is one for smartglass seeing as smartglass is now defunct. there is also ones for 1v100 and dorito crash course 2 since both of those games are also defunct.

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Game Podunk - The Best Games You've Never Played: Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes

In today's world, gamers are inundated with options: you can play games on your computer, your TV, on the go, and even on your phone. However, with so many titles being released each week, it can be hard for even the best of us to keep up with what's available. Game Podunk is thus proud to introduce a new feature, The Best Games You've Never Played, in which a staff member will highlight a relatively recent game that may have flown under your radar. Each installment will introduce one of these "hidden gems," pointing out what's great about it, why you may have missed it, and why it's worth searching out. So enjoy, and hopefully you can find your next favorite title!

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Ready at Dawn’s Deformers is shutting down on August 9th

Ready At Dawn has announced that it will be shutting down the servers for its physics-based arena brawler, Deformers, in its Western and European markets on August 9th. According to the team, Deformers was no longer financially viable in the West and in Europe, which is why it decided to shut down its servers.

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yellowgerbil2605d ago

That game looked like a April fools prank after the order. Would be like naughty dog making state of decay instead of tlou

narsaku2604d ago

Outside of in-engine graphic fidelity The Order 1886 was a horrible game, one of this generation's worst. I'm not saying Deformers was a blockbuster hit, or that great, but it was at least more of a game than 1886's CGI hallway was.

Nodoze2604d ago

I rather enjoyed The Order. The setting was fantastic. The gameplay could use some tweaking for sure, but what was on offer was good. The world needs another game set in this universe.

KOIMOJO2604d ago

@nodoze Yeah, as someone who really values cool settings, tone, characters and stuff like that I absolutely loved the order and think it was a great starting point that they could add more mechanics and systems around. Really hope Sony decides to save them from having to make more Deformers-like games. I still believe this studio can thrive with a big budget.

coolbeans2604d ago (Edited 2604d ago )

I've actually had a review resting on this for a while too. My mindset was similar to your own: jumping from an overly-constrained, dreary shooter to a bounce-house brawler looked like a great direction for them (if only as a diversion).

EDIT: In fact, I think I'm going to invest time to finish it!

MarineLineman2604d ago

Did you actually play the game to develop that opinion? The Order was far from a horrible game; it was definitely short, and didn’t need those couple of chapters that were nothing more than cutscenes, but the gameplay, the gun mechanics, the overall story, the setting/ environment, and the voice acting were all top notch. The insanely good graphics go without say. Nothing about it was broken, and everything worked extremely well. Nothing that a bigger and better resourced team couldn’t fix in a potential sequel to make an actually fantastic game.

NotanotherReboot2604d ago

Yep, The Order is epitome of all things wrong with linear SP games

Godmars2902604d ago

@Nodoze:
The issue is that as a big budget AAA it failed to deliver. Didn't make enough to justify sequel, yet the people who liked it feel justified in asking for one as if it had performed well. Willfully miss the point

Gaming_1st2604d ago

@narsaku

I feel the hate in your blood, let it consume you and come to the darkside.

bouzebbal2604d ago

It's RAD's first full scale project and we should encourage them.
The game wasn't bad at all.
It was short, YES!
It had no replayability value, YES!

it is however a very good foundation for a more ambitious sequel.

UltraNova2604d ago (Edited 2604d ago )

Its 2018 and still people call a game bad for being short...so by that logic launch window NMS was an infinitely great game?

Lets get serious...it was short and it lacked replayability but what was there was top quality (gun play, voice acting, story, visuals, sound..) and more than enough to warrant a sequel that could address all shortcomings.

We as gamers should be advocating for RAD and Sony to give The Order a second chance, to give us what we deserve.. a better game set in this unique setting, not rooting against it. This is so wrong in so many levels.

Ceaser98573612604d ago

Order 1886 has huge potential. And it was not a horrible game.. I hope the game gets another chance..

oasdada2604d ago (Edited 2604d ago )

The order was a fantastic game.. U know whats worst and horrible? Sea of theieves and it blows my mind outlets still gave that trash anything above a 3.. The order was atleast atleasttt an 8! What a game..

rainslacker2603d ago

The only problem with the Order was that it was unfinished and rushed out the door to get it done. It certainly wasn't the best game this gen, but it's not the worst.

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Null19802604d ago (Edited 2604d ago )

I didn't even realize this ever came out. I remember them talking about it after The Order. Everybody was like 'huh'? I was willing to try it out... but honestly never realized it came out!

The Order is not as bad as so many people say it is. There are certain games that come out that you play and you say, "Okay, this is decent... I can really see the potential in it. I bet they could do something a lot better with it in a sequel". That's how I feel about The Order. Much like how I feel about Rage and the presumably true (?) leak of Rage 2. I have high hopes that Rage 2 will fix many of the mistakes of the first, because the core of the game was a good foundation I could see built upon. I bet it will be a lot better game.

Tobse2604d ago

I love when people go graphics over gameplay and fun. Deformers was okay nothing special but fun at times. The order could have been a cgi movie. More shallow than anything this gen

Nyxus2604d ago

I love when people dictate what is fun.

KickSpinFilter2603d ago

The Order had some of the worst AI Ive played in a while. The half-breeds were just terrible, collectibles were pointless. Story started off great but got stale and rather silly when they introduce vampires, just a little much. Human enemies AI, and the combat with them was rather good with a cover system that was very top notch.
Art/graphics were great. The shortness of the game would have not bothered me if it was a well thought out game from start to finish. QTE's were ok with the human AI enemy, but just terrible with half-breeds. So a good rental, but far from a "CGI" movie.

StormLegend2605d ago

Such a terrible company and they have no idea how to make good games.

Gazondaily2605d ago

After the crap that was The Order, they needed to do something big but alas...they settled on this

Nyxus2604d ago

The Order wasn't crap.

narsaku2604d ago

Your right, it was worse than crap.

Nyxus2604d ago

Played through it twice and want to go through it again, try to get the Platinum Trophy. I understand this type of game isn't for everyone but I liked it a lot. The atmosphere and story were amazing.

Rachel_Alucard2604d ago

I think Order was a bad video game but they did a good job at creating eye candy to the average viewer. I only see praise for the things that are second to a video game foundation, like characters, setting, world, story. You can't write any positive aspects about the game parts because it does nothing new any other shooter had done in the last decade. Ready at Dawn is a textbook example of the differences between western developers and eastern developers

https://www.gamasutra.com/v...

Chexs19902604d ago

The gameplay was mediocre, sure, but the tone, setting, world mythos and atmosphere was probably some of the best this gen.
A lot of what made it good, came from all the subtleties and implicit workings, weaved into the game world.
Not for everyone, I'll agree with that, but for those who understood them, the game was a pretty good experience :)

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Araragifeels 2605d ago

Good thing, I got the game for free since Gamestop was giving away to all power up members.

DigitalRaptor2605d ago (Edited 2605d ago )

Looks like I'll have to put on my teacher hat... *sighs*

Ready At Dawn has made some good games though:

- Daxter on PSP was a great game.
- God of War: Chains of Olympus on PSP was a great game.
- Okami on the Wii was a damn good port.
- God of War: Ghost of Sparta on PSP was a great game.
- God of War: Origins Collection was an excellent remaster collection.
- Lone Echo on Oculus Rift was critically acclaimed.

They also have more projects in the works, so its possible for them to release more quality games after switching to work on 3 games outside of their comfort zone for the first time (big budget/new IP/console project, a multiplayer project, and a PCVR project... respectively). If you don't try new things, it becomes easy to stagnate. Props to them for having ambition and wanting to try new things and grow as a studio.

Lone Echo was something big (at least in the VR arena), but according to Septic it neither exists nor is it good: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

coolbeans2604d ago

"If you don't try new things, it becomes easy to stagnate. Props to them for having ambition and wanting to try new things and grow as a studio."

I think this is--surprisingly--one of the most thoughtful takes on the trite negativity on here. It's easy to just play armchair-publisher and ask "why not dedicate resourses to what I want?" but it's apparent that the money wasn't there. They're exploring different avenues b/c that appears to be the only way they can keep the lights on (atm).

KickSpinFilter2603d ago

Thx was to lazy to make a list!

Segata2603d ago

Okami on Wii is a butchered port. Paper filter removed. Lousy controls and removed the original team's credits.

BlackIceJoe2604d ago

This is another reason why I don't want to hear people saying the future for video games is more multiplayer games, because if the game sells bad you're left with a brick.

narsaku2604d ago

Not wanting reality is a tough struggle bud. I feel you though I ship Naruto/Sakura.

But more multiplayer is coming whether you like it or not bud.

P_Bomb2604d ago

Hey misery loves company.

mkis0072604d ago

over saturation will cause it to balance itself. Multi without single-player rarely happens, single without multi happens a lot. A game is art, and single player is where it shines.

Goldby2604d ago

@mkis

Theres a whole genre built around multiplayer without single player. Battle Royale, in top of that there's the arena shooters and brawlers like overwatch and paladins

lodossrage2604d ago

@BlackIceJoe

I agree with you. I said this even during the PS3/360 era. People are going to realize what they're pushing for when it's too late to do anything about it. Everyone buying into things like "always online, "GAAS", and games without a single player component have to come to the realization that when a game's server goes offline, so does any use of the game they purchased.

I don't care if a game server goes down 1 year or 20 years after I bought it. I like to think whatever I bought is still USEABLE when the server is eventually gone.

Unfortunately, the game companies know enough people are slaves to gaming and will accept it. I just know the moment their "future" becomes reality is the moment I stop being a "current" game and go retro. I love games, but not enough to buy into this mutliplayer only stuff.

VerminSC2604d ago

This poor developer can’t catch a break. They have so much potential

Nodoze2604d ago

What a complete and utter waste of development talent...on this. They should have been commissioned for a sequel to The Order. Instead they made this. Sorry but what a terrible decision.

Araragifeels 2604d ago

But remember that PlayStation cut ties with Ready At Dawn so they are no longer a second Party studio. So the only one who can do a sequel for The Order is Santa Monica since they did help out Ready At Dawn make the game.

shinoff21832604d ago

Sony could always hire them to make a sequel. It's not that if you cut ties you aren't allowed to work together again exclusively lol

Araragifeels 2604d ago

@shinoff2183 the problem is that they haven't made a good game in awhile and haven't done anything big ever since The Order. Plus The Order didn't do that well in sales and got mixed reviews. If sales was decent then PS probably could have greenlit The Order sequel just like Knack which Knack won't get another sequel since the second game was a flop.

Salooh2604d ago

It's not a waste, if they were forced to do it than yes, but if they genuinely have ideas for this genre than they should keep trying.

But even with that in mind, what they did with the order is nothing but an improvement( From my eyes a great achievement) compared to their previous games. So they shouldn't have stopped. They should make a plan and try get the support. They shouldn't doubt themselves...

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