Ori Dev Clarifies Xbox Scorpio Comments Further, Apologizes For PS4 Pro Remark

Thomas Mahler, a developer on Ori and the Blind Forest, has created quite a stir recently in the last few days, thanks to his comments alleging that the Xbox Scorpio will be a full fledged generational upgrade, and calling the PS4 Pro is 'half assed.'

[UCForce]

Well, be professional and respect your competitors next time.

[ThePope]

He's a game developer not a hardware manufacturer. His competitors are Bethesda, ND, Epic, etc. He hurt fragile feelings it sounds like to me...

[Juiceid]

That's a common problem with the world today
Everyone has to apologize when they say something others didn't like. Yet everyone is supposed to have a voice and be heard, except when whatever they're saying isn't liked by whoever is listening and cries about it.

[rainslacker]

Why mention the competition if he's not even developing games on it? Why was the lower powered console this gen so far OK for his game, when apparently Sony had a real next gen console by his standards.

If his competition is other developers, why is he commenting on hardware that his games won't ever come anywhere close to taking full advantage of?

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a good game designer, but his games aren't exactly cutting edge.

His comment was fanboyish, and that's unprofessional from a developer. Those people he pissed off with his comments may one day be his customers. Most developers tend to be more diplomatic. The one's that aren't, tend to get a lot of hate, regardless of where they fall on console preference. I'm sure there are some PS focused devs who have criticized MS that MS fans don't like. No different here.

Guy represents himself, and he is the face of his games. As such, while his opinions are his own, and he's free to have them, it doesn't mean he's free from criticism. The fact that his comment was worthy of an article to express those views with him sourced by name, gives him enough credit to be criticized, and as such, he should be more diplomatic with how he addresses the community.

[TKCMuzzer]

Maybe but there is a way of saying things in a professional manner, life is full of swings and roundabouts, he maybe ok now but he doesn't know what the future holds. Talking loosely of one of the big players in your industry is never a good thing, he may need them one day to help further his career, fulfil his gaming ambitions, life moves on and it's best to make sure you keep all your paths clear going forward.

[TankCrossing]

@rainslacker why shouldn't he comment? How many people commenting here have games coming to PS4 Pro or Scorpio?

Is it a rule that in order to participate in a conversation one must not know anything about the topic?

[bouzebbal]

Lol what an excuse... Not being a native English speaker. Then don't write in English you moron

[Mr Pumblechook]

He has an exclusive coming to the Scorpio. He is only reciting the mantra heard from Microsoft behind closed doors. Watch out, this Scorpio PR in 2017 is going to get dirty!

[joab777]

Everyone doesn't have to apologize but it isn't smart to offend a company that you may want to do business with.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Not really! he's not that important to begin with! it didint mean much when it said it and it doesnt mean much now that he apologizes.

[thekhurg]

Or he realized they better play nice when it comes to Sony and their 2:1 sales advantage. Just in case they want to make some money by making a game on the more successful platform.

[rainslacker]

Never said he couldn't comment. Just said he's not free from criticism based on those comments. He's a developer, and as such, he, and we, should hold him to a higher standard. His comment didn't add anything to the discussion. It didn't discuss the advantages of the "next gen" Scorpio vs the "half-a**ed" PS4P.

He's a developer, and as such will be held to that standard. If he was some forum goer, then his comment wouldn't have warranted an article, and would have been failed. If he was some website, he could have whatever opinion he wants, and post an article here, and be criticized for it.

So, yes, I encourage commenting by developers....some what since it usually backfires and it's hardly worth it....but at the same time, I encourage them do it in a manner which is professional.

[freshslicepizza]

http://pc.watch.impress.co....

"For us it's very acceptable that Microsoft invests in this area. But just upping output resolution of a conventional game console and improving graphics power don't expand the world of game consoles as of today. This is only XBOX 1.5 rather than a next-generation XBOX. Rather than replacing what existent game console vendors have been doing with high-performance hardware, I want them to find a totally new field by their own originality. If they do so, we can expand the world of computer entertainment together."

ken kutaragi in 2005 prior to the launch of the ps3 talking about the xbox 360.

why do people get defensive about all this stuff? he is a developer. how many other developers will tell you that they can only make their games on the platform they are working on when they make exclusive games? its all pr and none of us should take it personal.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Riiiiiiiiiiiidge racer!!!!

[spartan112g]

Lol, remember this video? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I wonder if you were as up in arms about being professional and respectful back then.

[optimus]

i remember that. but in case you haven't heard, sony can do no wrong...(when will the "love" end?)

[mark_parch]

can't wait to see what moon studio is working on ori is probably my favourite game so far this gen

[Paytaa]

Really don't care about his opinion on either console, just really loved Ori. Hopefully he talks more about a sequel or new game at some point.

[christocolus]

Moon Studio are sure talented. Ori 2 is rumoured to be in the works, maybe we will get an announcement soon.

[nevarDcirE]

I hope so. Ori is the best metroidvania ever. Such free flow control, it feels amazing to play

[donthate]

E3 and hoping for a launch this Holiday!

Happy, happy, happy!

[cfc83]

Won't be scorpio or pro exclusives. Those consoles won't sell enough to have games made for them.

[Goldby]

So does that mean Scorpio isnt getting any VR games. As there wont be enough hardware sold to warrant it?

[cfc83]

Wasn't including VR. That's its own space.Don't know if many will make VR games specifically. Maybe it will be a case off some devs making a game for standard machines, and as a bonus the game can be used with a VR headset i.e fallout 4.

[Goldby]

But u just said that they wont have any exclusive games. And vr would be exclusive to scorpio.

[TKCMuzzer]

Eh, haven't Sony already confirmed there will be no Pro exclusives? As for MS who knows, the move the goal posts every month.

[GTgamer]

It kills me when a indie dev talks about power in hardware when they barely use any of it :/

[stuna1]

This^^^

First off Ori is an excellent game, but look back at not only developers for Microsoft, Sony and, Nintendo, 9 times out of 10 it's the smaller development teams that speak out about how powerful their respective console that they are developing for is. Why is this? It's simple! The same 9 out of 10 developers haven't grown accustomed too nor experienced the bigger picture of developing a quote/unquote AAA title like the bigger development teams like Rockstar, Betheda, Square Inex, etc. Because hearing from those bigger developers things are a lot more realistically portrayed. Sure they talk about power, but they also talk about the shortcomings and the developmental hell they experienced.

Talking something for face value is not always simple.
@rainslacker

I wholeheartedly agree with your comment .

[rainslacker]

That's because most bigger developers don't delve into talking about power differences. The bigger devs have representatives who know how to say things properly, without offending on group or another, and allow their comments to be interpreted how people see fit. On top of that, they tend to not really dive too much into the hyperbole of console wars. Most of all, they talk more about their games, or the system they're working on, instead of trying to talk up a system.

On top of this, most bigger developers don't ever say they can't make a game on a lower powered system. It's almost taboo to admit that you can't do something to the press. it's an ego thing, although not really apparent through normal reports. Usually comments such as those are always framed in how it would affect a game, and they are kind of rare.

Obvious exceptions exist, but it's much harder to find comments like this from big studios.

It's kind of funny really. I've been building tools for X1 since right after this gen started. While I am quite critical of MS, I have never once said the X1 is underpowered. I feel it is powerful enough to handle modern game design. You don't get all the graphical bells and whistles compared to PS4, or PS4P, but the X1 is more than capable of handling all modern core game design principals.

[butchertroll]

Too late for him. Damage already done. He clearly showed that he is Xbone biased.

[alb1899]

Isn't it true what he said?
SONY said it too that the pro is just an upgrade and everyone knows that 6 terraflops are in another level so.....I don't even know why he is apologizing for.

[stuna1]

Incrementally speaking the difference in power between Scorpio and PS4 pro is pretty much the same as the difference between the original PS4 and original Xbox 1 even with the increase Ram speed and amount! The thing that's going to be the deciding factor, as always will be which one has the most enticing software to go along with that powerful hardware.

Personally I don't think this statement could be classified as subjective, but as far software goes....Sony takes the win on shear volume alone.

[alb1899]

Stuna, the way I see it is that the Scorpio will be like 4 times the xone so the increase of power will be so noticeable as a next generation for xboxone owners and is not the same case with the ps4.
The numbers talk more than the words in this cases: ps4pro 4.2 terraflops vs Scorpio 6 terraflops......You can put it so the pro doesn't look so in disvantage but the thing is that the difference between them is a ps4 of difference between them...... Isn't that much?

[Bruh]

@stuna1

LOL noo its not, stop spewing BS

The difference between the Xbox One and PS4 is 1.3 TFLOPs vs 1.8 TFLOPs
Scorpio vs. PS4 Pro is 4.2 TFLOPs vs 6.0 TFLOPs, how in the hell are they fractionally equivalent? lol

[Aenea]

@alb1899

Seriously, why do you feel 40% more power is on another level? Is the PS4 on another level than the X1 because it's the same relative power difference.

And also, it might feel much more of a bigger power upgrade to X1 owners but that's also because it was already weaker to begin with...

@Bruh

LOL, no, stop spewing BS!

The difference between the X1 and PS4 is 38.46%.
The difference between the Scorpio and the PS4 Pro is 42.86%.

Relatively speaking that's about the same is it not?

Okay, you want to use the Tflops, fine:
- to display a 4k (2160p) resolution a GPU needs to push 4 times the amount of pixels than for a 1080p resolution.
- difference between how games look between X1 and PS4 isn't all that great.
- the difference between X1 and PS4 only was 0.5Tflops
- in order to show the same difference in 2160p the difference would have to be 4 x 0.5Tflops = 2Tflops
- the difference between the Pro and the Scorpio is 1.8Tflops

Conclusion 1: the differences will be as noticeable on a 4k screen as the differences are now with X1/PS4 on a 1080p screen...

Conclusion 2: on a 1080p screen the differences can actually be bigger and more noticeable...

[TKCMuzzer]

How on earth is is 6 teraflops another level? 12 teraflops would have been another level. There way to many Xbox One gamers desperate to move on, ask yourself why.

[alb1899]

Do you really understand that 40% more power isn't enough to crushed with graphics and physics the Pro?
I'm not talking about 4K here.
Do you understand that the difference is as powerful as one ps4?
So the ps4 can handle Horizon, Uncharted, God of War, The Witcher, Dark souls, Etcétera.....
Can you imagine the power used to handle games like I mentioned just for more physics or graphics or colors, texture, Etcétera?
Don't you see what I'm talking about?
You want to camuflaje how significant it is with comparations between xone, ps4 vs Scorpio and Pro but you are tricking just your self.
A ps4 power of difference is huge unless they use this difference of power just for 4K.
But Spencer told that they will let developers decide.

[jaycptza]

Simple you tool, that he called it half arsed which is not professional at all.

[XXanderXX]

Stand your ground dude you are allowed an opinion.

[TKCMuzzer]

Really? he works in an industry were nothing is guaranteed, developers need to realise, their industry is like a winding road and you don't know were that road will take you in the future. What he's done is make sure that road may not take him past Sony or PlayStation in the future. Never close doors that may be open to you going forward.
There are opinions, then there is being unprofessional with those opinions, the brighter ones will realise this.

[jaycptza]

youre an idiot, burning a bridge like the playstation one is stupid. I wouldnt want to be standing on a Xbox bridge only

[XXanderXX]

The man is entitled to his opinion no matter who or what it reference, if those that it's about don't like it then tough crap.
No one should be limited to what if .
Also screw PlayStation POS they are .

[snoopgg]

Microsoft pos they are

[_-EDMIX-_]

I'm sorry but this guy's a complete idiot.

If there's one thing some of these developers should do they should stay out of stupid Fanboy stuff like that if they wish to keep their jobs.

I'm not even sure why such an idiot would come out and even say such a thing about the Scorpio especially considering Microsoft has never once stated such a thing about the Xbox Scorpio.

I Think Microsoft already has a very confusing marketing message and having idiots like that post such things don't necessarily help

[aconnellan]

He definitely should have kept his mouth shut, but just because MS hasn't talked about Scorpio to the public doesn't mean that devs don't know what's going to be in it (it launches in less than 12 months)

And MS' marketing message is only being misconstrued by people in comments sections (including the Ori dev). It's pretty straightforward what they're doing

[_-EDMIX-_]

No it's not bud.

Microsoft stated that the Xbox Scorpio is part of the Xbox One family.

Microsoft also stated that the Scorpio was not going to receive any exclusives because of this.

The comments being made by some of these developers is that Microsoft indeed is making exclusives for it and that it indeed is going to have its own Market as if it's a brand new platform as opposed to an upgrade.

I would put that under mixed messaging.

[aconnellan]

To your second comment:

That's exactly what I've said - Microsoft have straight forward messaging (that it's in the Xbox One family, that it's going to be forward/backward compatible, and that they're moving away from the concept of 'generations' and that the Scorpio isn't a 'new gen leap' like the Xbox One or the 360. Simple enough)

As we can both agree, it's mainly developers and people in forums saying otherwise. That said, I've only seen devs comment on how much power it has, and in Ori's case that it's not a 'half assed upgrade' not necessarily that it'll have its own exclusives. Do you have a source on that? That'd be interesting to read.

I think it's not out of the realm of possibility that Scorpio will have its own exclusives though, but somewhere like 3-6 years down the line, which will line up with the more 'traditional' time frame of a generation, and when people expect the PS5 to launch

[LordJamar]

no need i wish he had not does not make what he said not true tho

[Speak_da_Truth]

I didn't care when this guy called the Ps4 pro half assed or whatever. I'm really enjoying mine with my 4k Tv and have zero interest in the Scorpio but I hope what he's saying doesn't become true because I personally am fine with having generations because with new generations/console hardware upgrade comes new engines built from the ground up for these new hardware leading to us having better looking games etc.. For instance, look at the first Cods or Fifa's that released when the Ps4 and Xb1 came out. They where barely an upgrade compared to the Ps3/360 counterparts

[ShowanW]

i own a PS4Pro...

and he didn't lie...

[UCForce]

Maybe, but he sounds very unprofessional.

[ShowanW]

Now there has to be professionalism?

There didnt have to be any when "This is how you trade games".

The way I see it: Who cares...

a developer who is a scumbag in actual life (like a racist, bigot, etc) I won't support...

I can care less if developers, Yoshida, Boyce, Mattrick, Spencer, Andrew House, etc talk trash (within a gaming space) ... don't effect me none... if the game is good I'm getting it...

[UCForce]

Sure, but here the thing he sound very childish.

[ShowanW]

When Sony execs took shots did it sound childish?

Some let their products speak for itself.. some talk trash...

I honestly dont care... doesnt effect my life...

Ya'll take this way too personal...

Its all part of "the game"
N4G, Social Media,etc...

🤷🏾‍♂️- doesnt effect me

[jaycptza]

sounds like youre lying do you know anything about the the Scorpio?

[ShowanW]

@jaycptza

Elaborate ...

[SynestheticRoar]

He had to express regret for acting like a child in a man's world.I know his pride hurts.

[OpenGL]

His take on the whole situation might mean something if he didn't make a game the iPhone could run.

[wheatley]

Hey Ori dev, I get it. Microsoft are trying to kick start the next gen a few years early with a beast of a machine, but trying to maintain that this is just an expensive stop gap until the next gen actually begins. Whereas Sony's self proclaimed mid gen upgrade is labelled half assed because why? They didn't want the new console to cost ps3 level again...like the Scorpio will? I can hold off for a few more years when Sony want to whole ass it.

[King_Lothric]

This guy reminds me to the one who said "deal with it" before the x1 was released and got fired.

[Derceto]

Why apologize? The PS4Pro "is" half assed. Some ramped up clock cycles, unlocked a few more CUs, and a whopping 1GB more of RAM. Oh boy, what a beast.

Buddy is apologizing for calling it as it is. These people need to learn to either shut up, or stand their ground. Bunch of spineless jellyfish.

[Silly gameAr]

It wasn't supposed to be anymore then a ramped up PS4. No one was treating it like it was going to be next gen. He's apologizing because he acted like a childish MS fanboy with that comment but I guess anyone with his mindset wouldn't see anything wrong in what he said.

[starchild]

Yeah, in the same way that you and others don't see anything wrong with the irrational, hateful comments you make on this site everyday.

[UCForce]

Well, he's act very childish when he said like that.

[UCForce]

It's about control your manner or people will fire them for childish attitude.

[TKCMuzzer]

What are you talking about? It was always intended to be just a more powerful PS4 at a competitive entry price.
Sony said they would not make exclusive software for the Pro and its part of the PS4 family. Microsoft say the same about Scorpio and Xbox One, who do you believe the most?
No offence, the Scorpio is is more powerful than the Pro but let's be honest, it's hardly mind blowing or 'a beast' as everyone keeps going on about. When I say everyone, I mean the current Xbox One owners who are quite happy for this generation to move on.

[jaycptza]

hey idiot Sony said its an upgrade, which is exactly what you described or are you a moron that doesnt comprehend the english language?

[bluefox755]

No different than a fanboy stirring the pot, except this one has a boss to answer to, hence the apology.

[FernDiggidy]

stfu and give us Ori 2 god dammit

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Honestly he shouldn't apologize. The Pro is a half measure, but it's okay I love mine. I use it daily for vue and gaming.

[UCForce]

No, he should. That was very disrespectful and unprofessional from him.

[TKCMuzzer]

If you don't see anything wrong with how he came across then you need to look at yourself. He is in a volatile profession, he needs to show respect to all involved in his industry. You never know were life will take you. It's a lesson everyone should learn.
Whether you agree or disagree, always show respect in your opinion, this way your opinion will get respected.

[jaycptza]

if SONY said okay you can no longer develop games for our platform how would their investors feel about that? SONY doesnt need them, they need to maximize their exposure not SONY

[iceman06]

There's a significant difference between the phrase "half measure" and "half-assed". While both might be true, one is a far bit more derogatory. Not that I think he owes an apology. That being said, in the industry, you probably don't want to burn bridges that you don't know if you'll need.

[Donnie81]

My "half assed" pro looks pretty good to me. Its bad enough every game forum is ate up with the console war negativity now devs are doing it. I'm looking forward to Scorpio as well but make your product look good on its own and let the fanboys argue tflops.

[starchild]

Agreed. I really like my Pro and I think his comments were unnecessarily negative and fanboyish. All of this ridiculous fanboy nonsense is seeping into every corner of gaming and I despise it.

It's ok for people to have differences of opinion about games or platforms and we should be able to respectfully discuss those opinions, but the level of hate, irrationality, blind bias and intolerance is shocking and prevents any real discussion from taking place.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Well...he's not really wrong though

[rlow1]

Why is this even a big deal? So what he stated his opinion on the pro. It's not like other developers haven't talked some trash about the xbox1. Heck on this site and any other people are talking trash all the time about each other consoles. Oh well, just another day on the internet.

[alfcrippinjr]

would you really really trust what microsoft tell us these days nope

[spartan112g]

Woow, they apologized? Nobody will ever have the balls of Sega of America during the Genesis days.... Also, you all are a bunch of hypocrites. Remember when Sony did their whole "this is how you let friends borrow games" video. Pepperidge farm remembers.

[TKCMuzzer]

Thats different, they are a manufacturer trying to outsell a competitor. They don't rely on Microsoft for their business (even though Microsoft have contributed greatly to the PS4's success). This guy is a developer, he needs to sell his games to support his lfe etc. He may have to move on in the future, it's best to be professional and keep all your doors open going forward.

[starchild]

So you're not talking about ethics, you're just talking about pragmatism. He made a poor decision that might affect future job prospects.. is kind of what it sounds like you're focusing on.

I think he should have said it in a less fanboyish way, because that's the right way to behave, not only because it might cause issues for him down the road. I don't think it will likely cause any issues for him anyway. Sony isn't going to turn down the possibility of getting a great game on their platform just because one of the guys who worked on it once said something negative about the PS4 Pro. Still, I agree that it's always best to remain as professional as possible.

[RGB]

It's okay to bash the PS4 and promote their rival when you're on Microsoft's payroll I guess.

[TKCMuzzer]

It maybe, but he might not always be on the MS payroll and thats what he need to be wary off. It's to risky to close doors that you may require to be open in the future.

[Psytrix]

Wow.. Who the hell cares - it's his opinion and he can say what he wants - can't believe people are so precious, and about technology of all things for god sake. Toughen the F up ya cry babies.

[TKCMuzzer]

You do realise that his opinions reflect on others he may work with and work for. As a professional he should respect the fact that this may reflect badly on his working environment. It's not about opinions, its about being respectful with those opinions, it's not difficult, its just about thinking how to express those opinions in an adult manner. It's a lesson many could learn.

[optimus]

good lord what has this world come to where people feel they have to apologize for expressing themselves?....whatever happened to the good 'ol days when game companies didn't care if they offended their competition?...that was healthy and it would push the other to do better...just look at all of these commercials where taking shots at each other was a selling point....(my favorite being the store salesman trying to sell the supernintendo).... https://youtu.be/6hBDcdSFhm...

[ultimize]

How many games of First party?

[PhoenixUp]

This PC environment makes me miss the 90s where big corporations would shit talk each other many times and never apologize for it

[jaycptza]

SONY is not their competition. IDIOT

[PhoenixUp]

Keep being delusional moron

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[LastCenturyRob]

The Pro is a very good system, but lets face facts it will be moderately to significantly under powered compared to the Scorpio when that is released about nine months from now. The X1 is a very good system but even the "S" is still a bit under powered compared to the PS4. We have had tons of gamers and even some developers lash out at MS for that, with none having to apologize.... Seems this is a bit of a double standard. Whatever, must be a slow gaming news day.

[MRMagoo123]

it isn't even close to significantly under powered the gap between the ps4 and xbone was pretty much the same as the gap will be with the ps4 pro and the Scorpio and that's only if it's as good as rumours say it is, unless of course you think the ps4 is somehow significantly more powerful than the xbone right now which it's not. mathematically there is about 40 percent increase in power from the Scorpio to the ps4 pro and about a 38 percent increase in power from the xbone to the normal ps4.

@donnie

laws of diminishing returns says otherwise

[Donnie81]

Dude that argument is very weak. What's 40% of 1, then what's 40% of 100? There is gonna be a huge difference in performance and overall presentation.

[LastCenturyRob]

With software updates and unlocking the unused 10% of the gpu the Kinetic was supposed to have the difference in overall power is closer to 25% with the X1S being slightly more powerful than the regular X1 the difference in power between it and the PS4 is roughly 20%. Still a difference, but if the rumors about the Scorpio are true the difference will be greater. Not just in overall CPU and GPU but the extra 4gig of faster ram will really show a difference. So yeah, even though the PSpro is a good system it will be under powdered compared to the Scorpio with a bigger difference than the X1/PS4 and all the bs that was thrown at the X1 for running lower resolutions will now be thrust at the PSpro this time next year... I won't jump on that trolling bandwagon, because I am still fine with games played at 720p. As long as they look and play well at any resolution I usually have no issues...However, there is no getting around that many will criticize the PSpro when it is running newer games natively at an average of 1080p/60 while the Scorpio is running at 1440p/60 or higher. The better the console specs the better much of the mass market demographic will think the console is. Just how gaming is now.

[Donnie81]

I get that and totally understand. I'm just saying any dev that kinda tries should be able to make a game that runs and looks better. The difference between the vanilla versions of the systems ( its definitely there btw) never really seemed to be that substantial to me. 40% should be huge but it never really was. I wasn't hating on the pro either, bought one day 1 and its great. We haven't seen the best that system can do not by a long shot. Also I wanted to apologize for coming off kinda harsh, no ill will was ment homie :)

[rhap]

lol ori. they really need to be grateful to the xbox, because if it was a steam only game it wouldn't be this popular. the lack of games in the xbox made it look like a SUPER AWESOME GAME while it's just another pc platformer like many others in steam.

[ILostMyMind]

Microsoft is good and Sony is bad, says the guy who works for Microsoft. I understood. Until Microsoft closes his studio and he need to migrate to another platform. Better apologize.

[wutang4ever]

Epic Failure. Greatness awaits you

[sampson3121]

"“Are there any next-gen games out there that purely in terms of gameplay couldn’t have been done on a last-gen console? I have a hard time coming up with any,” he said."

surely not his game or many other games on the xbox one. Sony on the other hand have many games that would be ruined and half ass if they were on the ps3. The Order, Driveclub, Infamous ss, and UC4 wouldn't work on the ps3.

[starchild]

He's talking about gameplay there, not visuals. But even then, I agree, that's not entirely true. I can see some of those games maintaining essentially the same gameplay on last gen consoles, only with much worse visual quality, but there are definitely games this gen with gameplay that couldn't be done on previous consoles.

[tontontam0]

Confirmed, either xbox one owners will be left behind.

or xbox scorpio will just be an over powered piece of shit because it is held back by the original xbox one.

[TheGamingArt]

Wait, so what was the Xbone S to this guy

[GordyNYC]

After all this talk Microsoft needs to show a noticeable generational leap in their games and even their UIX. It cant just be better antialiasing. PSPro can currently go toe-toe w max settings on pc so MS needs to blow us away. Im hoping they do.

[starchild]

"PSPro can currently go toe-toe w max settings on pc"

This isn't true. I have a PC and a PS4 Pro and on most games the Pro is equivalent to between medium to high settings on PC. There are some exceptions, but most games still use higher settings on PC. And of course there are also the higher framerates and higher resolutions that a good PC can achieve. The PS4 Pro is definitely awesome quality for the money though.

[KakashiHotake]

Shouldn't have to apologize for telling the truth.

[abstractel]

This quote below taken from the article is utter BS. Games like Battlefield 1 would not functionally work on the last generation of hardware (PS3, Xbox360) without scaling back game-play impacting features. Same goes for Batman Arkham Knight and many other games. For a game like Ori, sure, but there are plenty of games that would not scale well. Spoken from many years of experience working in the industry.

I think we will see another hardware reset with the PS5, XBX -- if we don't I'll be disappointed. Todays PCs are so powerful, yet the games that run on them are held back by the lowest common denominator. Sure, you can increase the resolution, include higher resolution textures, draw distance but you can't change anything that fundamentally changes gameplay.

"Mahler pointed out that no games now exist that couldn’t have been scaled back to work on existing systems
Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/ori-d...

[Realms]

He's entitled to say what he damn well pleases but so does the internet and when your statement sounds like a fanboy jab expect some people to have an opinion on what you said.

[frostypants]

https://media.giphy.com/med...

Typical FailingBolt clickbait. These guys are HipHopGamer all over again.

In any event, the PS4 Pro never claimed to be a generational leap. No one ever made such a claim. The Scorpio however effectively is, it just happens to be 100% compatible with the Xbone. That's going to be the norm moving forward, I think...no more crazy architectural changeups. The answer to Scorpio will be PS5.

MS is trying to get the market jump on Sony. We'll see how it goes. They certainly need to show more in terms of games to foster much confidence.

[jlove4life]

All of you name callers sony pony just let this sync in if PlayStation Wouldn't have went solo and join Microcock Draconian drm gaming would be totally different here's a reminder how PlayStation being for the gamer made xbox better on behalf of PlayStation you're welcome https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Wotbot]

By secretly we all know what he truly thinks lol

[ThatIrishGamer]

Never heard of this person, or the game. . .so I can see why he made the remarks - as it's gotten him some time in the gaming news.

[zb1ftw777]

He didn't lie though

The ps4pro is irrelevant.

[melmacj]

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I think he still feels PS4 pro is a half assed. Reading between the lines I don't think he think much of Sony or Consoles for that matter. Sony has to release PS5 to have great games as Scorpio? I'll tell you this you can have 20,000 TFLOPS on GPU with 1 Teraflop of GDDR5 and if you don't have games on the damn thing you got one big expensive paperweight. If your game great which I hope his will be. It will sell on everything from Android OS to Windows. Minecraft anyone. This is just another who got the bigger dxck contest. We stand on the sidelines like girls and say I think his bigger. Jeez. In all honestly of the 3 and I play all games all systems PC to Nintendo. I say Microsoft has the weakest In-house team. Scalebound cancelled why? I was looking forwarded to that. Stop looking over your shoulder trying to complete in that dxck contest and bring together a In-house team that will make Sony, Nintendo cry. Platformer, Action RGP etc. Or if you're happy being a version of PC gaming or Steam box then fine because that seems where you're headed. But don't forget icon games made Nintendo and Sony house names forever.

[krypt1983]

Never get mad at anybody for stating the truth the pro is a joke and waste of a Rd money that could have been put toward a new vita or the ps5 period is does not do 4k and was only made to make vr run a little bit smoother period, I respect Sony for trying to get ahead of the curve on Vr for consoles but they should have waited till the ps5