Microsoft Is Doing Right With Project Scorpio

The reveal, updates, and launch of Project Scorpio are critical to Microsoft's next stage of console develop, and so far they're nailing it. But they need to continue this momentum in order to complete a successful launch. Here's what Dave thinks need to happen to see that through.

[skydragoonityx]

What's the use of making a powerful console (which has been tremendously debunked as being the most powerful) when they are so few games to play?

[Doopy]

What console is more powerful than xbox scorpio? Also, there is plenty of games to play on it and all the games will run and look better on it too.

[thekhurg]

All of them since that thing doesn't actually exist in consumer hands yet.

[ger2396]

List of games please.

[vega275]

@ ger2396

"List of games please"

Try all games that's playable on the xbox one and xbox one s. But i guess your trying hard to be a troll and refer to "exclusives" right?. You also know that there will be no exclusive on the scorpio because MS doesnt want to split the install base. You know much like sony doesn't want exclusive on the ps4 pro. So please stop from asking stupid question and trolling

[candystop]

Whatever games are released we all at least know it will be a much better console than anything Sony currently has on the market.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Nice to see so many Sony fans care about Xbox.

[Bigpappy]

Maybe for PS4 exclusive only players there are not enough games to play, but I have plenty that I want to play on it, and I am actually a person who will be buying it.

I will be playing Ghost Recon, Mass Effect, Pray, RDR2 and may be Conan: Exile. I am sure they will be others. But most of the games I mentioned are huge games. Plus I do a fulltime job and have real world responsibilities. May be that's why I am not getting the 'no games' line of thought'.

[christocolus]

Same here. Getting it day one.

@Welegion

"but why get a Scorpio for them when you can get them on PC or PS4? Both systems have all of those plus tons of exclusives. Scorpio is a bad investment. "

Lol. You guys become so unreasonable once you get into an xbox thread. Common sense. People have different tastes /likes. Not every wants to play on PC or PS4. People differ. Is it that hard to understand. There are people who prefer console gaming over PC gaming and there are people who prefer the Xbox ecosystem and certain features over the PS ecosystem also you should add IMO to your comments cos you don't speak for anyone but yourself and certainly not Xbox fans. Scoprio may be a bad investment for you and those like you but not for others who certainly find it interesting. Damn. It's like you guys loose all sense of logical reasoning once you step into Xbox threads. You have no interest in a particular product so it's automatically a bad investment for you and those who find it useful and want it?Lmao XD.

[WeAreLegion]

Those are huge games, but why get a Scorpio for them when you can get them on PC or PS4? Both systems have all of those plus tons of exclusives. Scorpio is a bad investment.

RDR2 is a maybe on PC, obviously.

[TheCommentator]

Exactly, Bigpappy and Christoculous.

Quantity means nothing if the choices aren't as interesting. Sony just doesn't have what I like most of the time and that's an entirely subjective viewpoint. I'm good with HW2, SoD2, SoT, and CD3, coming this year and I'm also happy with Gears, Halo, Forza (Horizon). Still, MS could really use more studios making more IP to entice people to buy the XB1. As for the PC argument, I don't want to game on a PC. They're finicky, prone to viruses, expensive unless you build them yourself, and generally a pain to run games on compared to a console. It's not worth the hassle over plug and play consoles.

[DragonDDark]

A PC is definitely a better investment than the Scorpio. You will get all XB1 games & a lot more. Some Ps4 games end up on PC too. Mostly Japanese ones. PC+Ps4 is the best option for me.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Legion. Why does it matter if their huge games. Storage isn't a issue on Xbox. Why pay for a game twice with ps4 and pc, when Ms offering play anywhere. I could now enjoy my xbox to game on and as a media machine for hulu and netflix, and run games that really matter on my EVGA 1080 Hybrid from the pc. True 4k or better VR experience anyone? All while playing the games we want thats on xbox.

[Drizzy]

I play whatever strikes my interest. I liked 5he Nioh demo but I hate the recharge stamina aspect of it. I think I like nier automata better unfortunately. All I want is a ninja gaiden 2 remake

[Chris12]

@skydragon - there are more than enough games when you take the exclusives and the third party games. What should Xbox users play on if they prefer Xbox games plus third party offerings? This no games BS really is pathetic

[LordJamar]

you deserve every like you get

[MRMagoo123]

they should play on pc then I would guess cos it has all the xbone games plus all the pc games and a fair few ps4 games

@chris12

pcs these days are pretty much plug and play you can use any consoles controller with them you can play pretty much any console games besides a few Nintendo and ps4 games and you can have your pc set up with a massive tv just like a console, if you aren't too stupid to turn a console on you aren't too stupid to press the power button on the pc and the rest such as input is the same as console. the "pc isn't plug and play" idea doesn't work anymore because it has been false for a long time.

btw I do play console as well I have a ps4 , ps3 , ps2 , ps1 , mega drive 2 , ds and a wii but pc isn't any harder than any of them.

[Chris12]

@Magoo I knew there would be a 'play on PC' response. When will people like you realise a lot of us don't want to play on PC. I have previously been a PC gamer and didn't enjoy it as much as being a console gamer. Far too much hassle, just give me a console, plug it in and play. Simple.

[Gwynbleidd]

6TF GPU, 320 GB/s RAM, 8 core CPU -> What console has more power?

Please stop the no games on Xbox thing! There may be more exclusives on PS but there are still many exclusives on Xbox and lots of 3rd party games.

[christocolus]

Well said. I just hope we get a reveal date soon.

[Overload]

"Please stop the no games on Xbox thing!"

Why? It's a actual thing.

Xbox One (9 upcoming retail exclusives)
http://gematsu.com/exclusiv...

PS4 (87 upcoming retail exclusives)
http://gematsu.com/exclusiv...

When people said the PS4 had "no games" the discrepancy wasn't close to as wide as the one I just presented. The Xbox One has around 10% as many console exclusive retail titles as the PS4.

That's why people say that.

[Automatic79]

Well said @Gwynbleidd

In addition, you should mention the games offer way more replayability than competition.

[Gazondaily]

@Overload

I'm sorry- are non-exclusive games not games?

[Overload]

"I'm sorry- are non-exclusive games not games?"

Of course, so are indie games. Knack is also a game, Resogun is a game, Bloodborne is a game too.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Xbox fans do more time defending than a average Xbox fanboy does attacking on here. The major problem with these fanboys they really don't grasp or understand, taste or liking something that they don't. MS has issues and problems well shit any Xbox fan is fully aware we don't need fanboys reminding everyone the problems, SHUT UP. The mentality is, "Xbox is messing up drop it get my favorite platform" every major platform holder screws up at least 1 generation. Sony messup with PS3 and guess what? Fans stuck by their side. Nintendo messed up multiple times and guess what Nintendo fans are still around. MS suffers the third console curse and everyone should ditch it and buy another platform.

Yeah no MS has the right to be here also considering MS through out their entire gaming tenure has actually brought significance to the gaming industry just like Sony and Nintendo have. Clearly, there's a reason why all three are around and have their fans.

[maybelovehate]

It will be completely backwards compatible with Xbox One on launch day. There will be plenty to play.

[mark_parch]

@skydragoonityx
what are you on about 'tremendously debunked lol, which console is going to be more powerful

[Deadpooled]

Yeah where are the Xbox exclusives? Are Microsoft shifting Xbox one games to Scorpio? Why get a Scorpio when for what would turn out to be the same price you can get a gaming PC which would run all the games better and with superior multitasking? Only the hardcore would get the Scorpio at launch and everyone else with a brain would use the money to get a new/boost their gaming PC.

I swear if Sony was in the same position Microsoft are in now, there would be endless 'Sony has no games' articles.

[Kiwi66]

"Get a PC" seems to the war cry of some on here when it comes to xbox games yet that isn't the choice of many who want to play the games on an xbox console

[MRMagoo123]

@kiwi

if pc isn't the choice then why is xbone selling so badly ? it can't be because people are just choosing not to game at all , they are going elsewhere aka pc ps4

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

I got a gaming pc. I spend more time on XBOX. I'm definitely getting a Scorpio. I like games from both platforms. AC7 was just announced for multi platform, one of my favorite franchises. I'm definitely winning in the end, and so many like me. Why does your argument sound like you lost something. Why do you care how people go about choosing their options?

[Dizzy11523]

No doubt. There is nothing to play on this thing. Mine is used for anything that I don't want taking up space on my PS4. Now that the Snap feature is being removed, I have even less reasons to care about a Xbox Console.

All they have is Killer Instinct.

[Condemnedman]

how boring are you if you relied on the snap feature. lol

[KakashiHotake]

All Xbox One games will still play on it and it will have Xbox 360 backwards compatibility. Scorpio will be the superior console for all newer games moving forward even over PS4 Pro.

[jmetalhead77812]

Plus, I have a feeling that they will announce BC from OG Xbox along with the Scorpio reveal, or soon there after. I currently have over 200 games on my XB1S, with many more coming. I'll never have enough time to get to all of them.

[Condemnedman]

how is it debunked when it releases it will be more powerful the your current console. stop talking crap

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You work for Xbox apparently so you know what Microsoft has planned. Please share.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

At least we got Ace Combat 7, who needs a PS4 pro now?

[Bigpappy]

I like the suggestions. I really want to know the full specs, see some of the new features and get to see what some of the improvements mean for upcoming games... especially big opened world games.

[christocolus]

"I like the suggestions. I really want to know the full specs, see some of the new features and get to see what some of the improvements mean for upcoming games"

I want to know this too. Due to the more powerful/balanced architecture of Scorpio I think it will have some new software features not possible on regular Xbox One and XoneS. Not just talking about graphical features here but social and other console exclusive features the OS team will cook up. I really can't wait for the reveal.

[Bigpappy]

Yeah. From a kid I have always liked getting new stuff. New posibilities . New features nail home the newness feel for me.

[bluefox755]

IMO they announced it way too early. Most of the momentum and the excitement from the original announcement is gone. Couple that with all of the drama surrounding their 1st party titles (or lack thereof), I'm not sure I'd agree that they're "doing right".

[Fishy Fingers]

Perhaps for the 'die hards' like us, most people don't track the news the way we do, I imagine the vast majority wouldn't know what Scorpio is and won't until they start mainstream marketing.

And you can't deny that every article concerning it gets plenty of attention from 'both camps' so I wouldn't say it's lost its momentum yet. If anything it getting worse and will probably continue to up until the official reveal. That's when the s*** will hit the fan for better or worse.

[maybelovehate]

Once developers have the specs and SDK you have to announce it. It is out there.

[zivtheawesome]

i dissagree. after reading the "leaks" (as they are on MS's website can we really consider that a leak?) it seems to be just a slightly more powerfull ps4pro, that is releasing a year later and at a higher price. If that is true, it will fail IMO.

[yeahright2]

Yeah my guess is they got spooked by what the price would turn out to be and decided to tone it down. Really all they promised was 6 teraflops, which can be reached in a variety of ways (PS4 Pro is technically capable of 8 teraflops, even though it will undoubtedly be weaker).
Right now they're probably just shooting to make sure it's more powerful than the PS4 pro, has some native 4K games and hits 6 teraflops while struggling to keep the price within reason.

[IndominusRex]

How tf can it reach 8 tf????

[yeahright2]

http://segmentnext.com/2016...

Keep in mind, I did say "technically". thing is, teraflops isn't exactly the best way to measure power. A much better measure would be if they gave us the gpu and cpu specs.

[DEEBO]

Stop looking for negative things in gaming and try to look what's good in it.
MS is giving us a stronger console and that's a good thing.
When people found out the switch didn't have the best specs it got bash now MS is trying to give you power and it's a problem??

Yes they need to make better 1st party games but everybody needs to work on something,nothing in this world is perfect.
Be gamers N4G Members.

[Gravesinger_]

Don't waste your breath trying to use "Reason" and "Logic" with these Fanboy Morons, they can't see past the end of their own noses.

[Doopy]

Forza 7, City skyline, Halo Wars 2, State of decay 2, Sea of theives, Crack down 3, cuphead, ori blind forest 2,path of exile ,killer instinct season 4 and more. There is already plenty of exclusives. More than most people will ever get to play or have the time/money to even enjoy. Not to mention the third party games. And this may sound fanboyish, but I believe with a powerful console to play and run all the games better with a superior online network/controller they are doing exactly what we want.

[FGHFGHFGH]

path of exile is xbox exclusive? Isn't that a free to play game that came out in 2013 and has millions of players?

[MRMagoo123]

you didn't list one exclusive game in that whole rant 🤔

[christocolus]

Totally agree with the points made in this article.

[il-JumperMT]

Wasting money on unneeded hardware when it could be used to develop games.

[JoeDG]

Unbelievable how infected this site is. You know what: I am a gamer and own the ps4 Pro and still I look forward to the scorpio. finally grow up and accept other opinions and tastes.

[Overload]

What exactly did someone say that was so wrong? Having a lack of games?

[JoeDG]

Just look at the comments. If someone has no interest in why take any time to comment?

This is simply childish. Just enjoy your ps4 / nitendo / pc and leave other people with your biased opinion in peace

[Overload]

I only see people stating a lack of games, which is completely true.

So you feel people should be censored from making legitimate complaints against a publisher?

[JoeDG]

Is funny that it comes from you. Just looked in your comments and you do almost nothing else than to write how bad ms and xbox is. Find a life my friend

[Overload]

What have I said in my comment history that you have an issue with or feel is incorrect? I also own a 360, a Wii U and have stated many times what I feel MS can do to better themselves as a console manufacturer.

[yeahright2]

Can you list those 25 xbox one games that aren't available on PC or PS4?

Just curious cause the only one I can think of off the top of my head is sunset overdrive.

[Manashake]

I am happy for those who love xbox and have spare money. I love xbox hardware, but am more into Japanese games, so didn't buy the x one.

[Automatic79]

@Manashake

Well said, I am happy for those who love PS4 and have spare money. I love PS hardware, but for me I am on opposite spectrum, I love Western developed games more than Japanese games, so Xbox One caters to my needs, it's my primary console, personally the PS4 satisfies my one or two exclusive a year that I like with western influence for example Horizon and Hoping we get God of War at years end.

Thanks for providing a civil comment.

[Manashake]

Thank you, Michael!

[S2Killinit]

I don't know they are lacking in the games department big time. I mean come on! Why do they only support their consoles at the launch and then trail off?

[Automatic79]

@S2Killinit

In December we got DeadRising 4, in February we are getting Halo Wars 2. Plus in between we are getting RE7, For Honor, Sonic Mania, Mass Effect, Rise and Shine, Voodoo Vince, Tacoma, Ghost Recon, Injustice 2, Tekken 7. Not sure how they fallen off.

Further, if you are referring to wanting to know more about exclusives, I believe we will get more notice on games as year progresses, we have to be patient. So far I see a ton of games.

[Gazondaily]

The xbox could have a deluge of games and there would be an excuse somewhere to justify the hate. I think you know how it works.

[Bennibop]

Personally believe Microsoft should be investing in new studios as my one s has not been touched since horizon released. The concern I have with the Scorpio is MS just dropping the xbox one as it does appear to have been a massive miss step and they have been in full pr spin mode since launch. This is not a practice I am comfortable with having been stung by this happening with the og xbox and the 360.

[Bronxs15]

Oh man. Try going to a forum like neogaf or arstechnica and make a post asking for Xbox one game recommendation. Something tells me there are a lot a great games on the system you don't know about.

[obidanshinobi]

I think the vast majority of games that are 30fps on the standard XB1 will run at 60fps on Scorpio.
There won't be a "pro mode" it will just use the extra power to run it at 60fps.
Old games would require a patch but due to the XB1s architecture it should be easy for developers to make it 60fps for Scorpio and 30fps for standard XB1 without having to use a load more resources.
It should be just as easy for developers as it is with different PC settings, I hope anyway :)

[Bronxs15]

Considering how many games I got unplayed I think I might wait to see if there's is an enhanced Scorpio version.

Won't be hard to wait for RE7. Cus it's a short game and will be better value once it price drops.

Waiting for mass effect andromeda tho. That's gonna be harder!

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

really? they lied about all games being native 4k! there are no real exclusives! not even a killer app so far.

[Lennoxb63]

They said all of their first party games would be native 4k. What other studios decide to do is up to them.

[KakashiHotake]

I'm actually very excited for Scorpio just like I was for PS4 Pro before the reveal. I think gamers are ready for a more power console now. Granted games on standard PS4 still look amazing but it's only human nature to constantly want more. PS4 pro just didn't go far enough for my tastes. Even now they have a comparison of RE7 on Digital Foundry that shows no difference. So much is left to be desired. I do love PS4 but if Microsoft gets this right I'll be getting a Scorpio at launch.

[MRMagoo123]

did you read the df analysis ?? the pro does far more than the xbone and normal ps4 ....

oh my bad I looked at the comment history ....ignore my facts it'll not change your bias mind

[Bronxs15]

Actually I checked out the video comparison and digital foundry says very clearly almost no difference between PS4 and PS4 pro. So you're the biased one denying facts.

Are there difference? Yes. Are they minimal? Yes. Is pro version better? Yes. But they had to zoom in to a screenshot at 240% to see the small difference on the edge of a car door.

[KakashiHotake]

I did read the analysis but here's the thing. You don't need an analysis to tell you what your eyes and your brain already knows. It's just common sense really unless your just being biased which is most likely the case.

[aConIsDemocracy]

This is just a way to sell 3 consoles to each of us in one generation if you count the slim models. We're halfway through a normal consoles life and they've already sold us three iterations of the same product. We are the biggest fools on the planet. Sony and MS are laughing and rubbing their hands at our console wars.

[Wallstreet37]

I am a big big Microsoft criticizer for valid reasons, however i want to see Scorpio come out swinging. I know they wont have exclusives for Scorpio but if when they announce it they announce two xbone new AAA exclusives built harnessing Scorpios capabilities and have some other new announcements im there day one. Also want a revamped ui bcus i hate bones ui.

[Hendog1981]

The new UI is really good and super fast. Going to be even better when they get the bugs sorted out.

[Wallstreet37]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

New rumored specs by the way.

[MasterCornholio]

They are saying that they already debunked those specs.

[Wallstreet37]

If they did cool was just sharing info.

[Thump1967]

Well put a lot of good things but can't wait till we get the final specs and I agree on the price of 499.99 but 399.00 would be killer against
Sony

[RobLoPR]

I cant wait to play Ark Survival Evolved on the Scorpio