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Scalebound Cancellation Is Unfortunate, Scorpio Will See Lot of First & Third Party Support: Pachter

While news is currently being dominated by buzz and chatter about Nintendo's newest system, this week was also the week that saw the cancellation of the long awaited Xbox One exclusive Scalebound, the action RPG led by the legendary Hideki Kamiya.

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Irishguy953090d ago

Hang on, scorpio IS just an upgrade to Xbox One isn't it? Its not a new system entirely? Like a new gen? With exclusive games?

Overload3090d ago

The closer we get to it, the more people talk about it like a different system.

stuna13090d ago

It is a different system! Like I said a couple of days ago, Microsoft is going to send its supporters for a loop once Scorpio releases. Microsoft is going to kill the original Xbox 1 and Xbox S, because Scorpio will be receiving PC games therefore unlimited 2nd, 3rd and Independent party support. Already Microsoft 1st party games are playable on PC's. What's going to ultimately kill the original Xbox 1 and Xbox S is the fact that the support Scorpio will receive from PC's won't be able to be taken advantage of on the original Xbox 1 and Xbox S.

Overload3090d ago

"Xbox Scorpio Is a New Generation but Will Remain Part of the Family, Says Xbox Boss Phil Spencer"
http://www.dualshockers.com...

bouzebbal3090d ago

So xbox one is coming to an end ?

tyasia03090d ago (Edited 3090d ago )

Let it be a new generation then PS4 will be 60 million ahead instead of only 35 million.

Good luck getting 3rd party support when your system has 5% of the console market.

Obscure_Observer3089d ago

@Overload

I love the way you spin that BS so you guys don´t feel underwhelmed about the PS4Pro´s lack of power against the Scopio. Or should i say: Overwhelmed by your own insecurities? Overcome fear, jealousy and anxiety can be hard, i know. ;)

But fear not. PS4 has a huge and amazing line up of exclusive games where MS seems nowhere to compete. So, if power REALLY doesn´t matter to you guys, you should just leave it alone.

Xbox One already lost this gen sales wise. But that doesn´t mean it wouldn´t have great exclusive games and/or superior multiplats as well. ;)

Is gonna be a great year for PS4, Nintendo Switch and Xbox One fans alike. :)

Dragonscale3089d ago

The scorpio is ms desperate attempt to start a new gen. The sooner they can bury the xbone the better so they think.

Its as obvious as the day is long.

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YinYangGaming3090d ago

It's all part of the Xbox One "family" of devices. The reason for all the talk like it's a new gen is that Scorpio is utilizing all new, unreleased CPU/GPU technology not found in the Xbox One. However, all games/accessories are forwards and backwards compatible. It really is quite a feat of engineering and we don't even know the full specs yet.

Irishguy953090d ago

How do we know its a feat of engineering without knowing the specs? But yeah anyhow, so long as the Xbox One doesn't become obsolete when it arrives i'm happy. However I don't know what pachter is on about, the scorpio getting support? The scorpio...is an upgrade xbox one so I don't see how it'll gain support from 3rd parties etc. Likewise the Ps4 pro ain't grabbing any extra support, its just there, to be utilized.

TheGreatGamer3090d ago

@Irishguy95

We do know quite a lot about specs though (6tf, 320gig memory, 12gb ram) what we don't know is the exact AMD technology but the hints allude to tech that's not on the market yet

Sparta073089d ago

" It really is quite a feat of engineering and we don't even know the full specs yet. " 😂
Ok there pal, calm down.

It's all part of the Xboxone family?
Well isn't the original Xbox, Xbox 360 part of the Xbox family?
Same can be said about ps1,2,3 and PS4. They are part of " the PlayStation family ".
Doesn't mean Scorpio is not next gen.

maybelovehate3090d ago

It is a new system entirely. But since it runs a standard x86 environment it will be backwards compatible with Xbox One games. Similar to how PC's work. PS4 has the same model.

JasonKCK3090d ago

Some people want Scorpio to be called next gen so they can call "foul" or say "no fair" when the Scorpio vs Pro comparisons start coming out.

stuna13089d ago

Really!? If that's what you think, it's really small minded thinking. Practically no one is even thinking comparisons at this point when IP support at the forefront of Xbox woo's.

Then take into consideration the impact of all of Microsoft 1st party games making the jump from Xbox 1 to PC's and PC games making the jump to Scorpio!? Where in your mind do you see those same games making the jump to the original Xbox 1 and Xbox S? Hell even the Xbox S still struggles to stay on par with the original PS4 and this is after a upgrade. That will determine the fate of Xbox 1 and Xbox S and Scorpio will become the definative system to go to.

Of course Microsoft won't come flat out and say it, imagine the type of backlash that would cause? Especially after the Xbox 1 unveiling they know many are skeptic as to their true intention. Look at all the 1st party games that were to Xbox 1!? Only a fraction have seen the light of day, but games like Crackdown 3 and Cuphead keep getting pushed back, Why? To coincide with Scorpio's launch! If Crackdown 3 does launch Xbox 1 or Xbox S it will be a shell of its true potential which might I add will only be available on Scorpio or PC.

Lastly I don't know what people consider as a basis for calling a product new, but changing the guts of a product is definately a basis for calling it new! And I don't mean making more it more efficient, I'm talking changing the hardware to something that wasn't available when it was first marketed.

JasonKCK3089d ago

Side by side comparisons will be the first thing that happens. Calling one next gen to sooth ego's isn't going to stop anything.

Obscure_Observer3089d ago

@stuna1

"That will determine the fate of Xbox 1 and Xbox S and Scorpio will become the definative system to go to."

Yeah. Just like the PS4Pro is the "definative" PS4 for to go? No offence man, but this is nonsense. In case you forget, the PS4 Slim was the best selling PS4 system for holidays. The Pro is just 100 bucks more expensive and yet people chosse the 2.5x less powerful PS4 Slim.

Do you think Scorpio will be just 100 bucks more expensive than Xbox One S??? GET REAL!

Scorpio is gonna be expensive this thing could cost 600 bucks or more. It´s not gonna be popular by any means if MS are aimming for this kind of price tag.

Xbox One and Xbox One S will continue to be the leading MS platform just like PS4 and PS4 Slim are to Sony.

MRMagoo1233089d ago

Phil Spencer himself said it was a new gen just not the same as the others, but I guess you guys need a win of some sort and pretending the Scorpio is the same as this gen will do that for the delusional /shrug, it's all you have left really with no games at all.

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chrisoadamson3090d ago

Well VR games are exclusive to the Scorpio

ziggurcat3090d ago

MS has always maintained that it's a part of the Xbox One family, much like the Pro is just a part of the same PS4 family.

Bigpappy3090d ago

PS-pro has much in common with PS4. No so with Scorpio (completely different design). We see very soon how this all pans out.

BlackTar1873089d ago

Gonna laugh when it's more about next gen system and cuts xbox one out on games. Then we can debate if ms dropped it's fans on their face again prematurely.

ziggurcat3089d ago

@blacktar:

they were pretty clear that the Scorpio would be able to play all OG Xbox One games (and not in a BC capacity), so I doubt they'll cut them out.

n4rc3089d ago

scorpio/xb1 share exclusives.. not really difficult, what one gets, the other does too..

BlackTar1873089d ago

It doesn't always sound like that.

n4rc3089d ago

which part? i mean, besides VR... thats just a no-brainer tho..

Irishguy953089d ago

So VR is exclusive to scorpio? What about Occulus and Xbox one?

n4rc3089d ago

xb1 doesnt support VR at all that im aware of... tho there is a feature to stream xb1 to a PC with a rift attached for a movie theater type experience.. not VR tho

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dp2774073089d ago

It'll be a new system that's just backwards compatible with Xboxone and does patches for old games like pro most likely but we will see at E3 or whatever.

King_Lothric3089d ago

The is what Microsoft said but we all know how much Microsoft likes to mislead.

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jokerisalive3090d ago

Its supposed to be an extension of the XB1 ecosystem with games being built on engines that scale rez. From what I have heard Gears 4and Horizon 3 will run at 4k day one on the Scorpio. SO any 'exclusives' are MS exclusives for the XB1 family I would guess unless something has changed.

n4rc3089d ago

its no different then PC (or even mobile i guess, dont game on my phone lol) where you and i are playing the same game yet could have massively different results based on our hardware

and one would assume 1st party would ramp up for a big new release.. also signing 2nd and 3rd party deals id assume

corroios3090d ago

If patcher is saying this, its doomed,lol

Melankolis3090d ago

That extra 4tf but no exclusives! I don't know should i praise or mock Microsoft?

chrisoadamson3090d ago

VR games will be exclusive to Scorpio

chrisoadamson3090d ago

who down votes a fact that phil spencer and Microsoft have said on recordlol

-Foxtrot3090d ago

Hmmm...you know looking at the display pic for Scalebound I hope if it's ever brought back they redesign the main guy

He looks like Ellen DeGeneres

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Former PlayStation Boss Says $80 Games Are Amazingly Affordable

PlayStation boss believes that $80 games are affordable due to the value they provide. Using Mario Kart as an example, he noted that it offers numerous hours of gameplay with just one purchase.

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jambola1d 20h ago

value inside the product does not have any impact on how afforable they are

Eonjay1d 3h ago

He never said anything about affordability at all. He only commented about the perceived value that a game can have to a player that gets many hours out of it.

Again, as with many other forms of we are disrespected and lied to.

Title says Yoshida said $80 games are amazingly affordable. This is a lie.

CrimsonWing691d 2h ago

Perceived value is subjective, so how do you even argue for it? If one person says $500 was worth it because they played a game for six months, what does that mean to someone who didn’t share that experience or see that value?

This is exactly where corporate thinking falls apart. The value is defined by them, and then they twist the logic to defend it from a purely internal, out-of-touch perspective.

I’ve never based the price of a game on how long I’ve played it. There’s a standard price range that consumers feel is fair. If it were truly based on time or value, Resident Evil 2 Remake would cost $20, and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth would be $1,000.

Eonjay1d ago

@Crimson

"Perceived value is subjective, so how do you even argue for it?Perceived value is subjective, so how do you even argue for it?"

I think his point is that it is subjective.

thorstein22h ago

Why is tech4gamers allowed to publish here. The lying is constant with them.

FACTUAL evidence7h ago

Honestly, expedition 33 is a prime example of quality for the low. Expedition 33 launched at 50$, and that game gave me more fun than most 60-70$ games I’ve purchased within the last decade.

8835h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Clearly, they want to increase prices. They need to convince people that it’s not so bad. As long as they can do that, they can do whatever they want. You gave an outstanding example of the direction things could go if creators were focused primarily on The community and quality. If that example or a few others like it didn’t exist, it might be hard to convey to many how it is even possible.

pwnmaster30001d 20h ago

I get the concept.
People buy movies for $20-$30 dollars that offers only a couple of hours of enjoyment.
While games offers 3-10+ times the amount of hours and content.
So in theory yeah I get it.

But I will never accept it and would rather keep the price now or even better PS360 price lol

isarai1d 19h ago

On the surface ye that makes sense, but when you realize the budgets are very comparable, you realize it's kinda stupid and overpriced especially when it common for it to be released unfinished

Extermin8or3_22h ago

Not really, movies that have similar budgets have the box office where if they arent a flop- they typically make all their money back or a profit. Movies have a much wider audience. Games however just have that release and have a smaller market.

PapaBop20h ago

Are many people buying movies for $20-$30? Outside of the more dedicated movie goers who have a physical collection, I imagine most rather scoff at that and stick to things like Netflix instead.

DivineHand12520h ago

You also have to take into consideration that most games are enjoyed by one or two people, while movies can be enjoyed by a group of people who are either friends or family.

Another thing is that the value of an entertainment product cannot be judged based on its length, but how it makes the user feel when it is all done.
An example of this is Ubisoft games. They can last close to or exceed 100 hours, yet many people hate on them for doing things to pad the length of the game, while Uncharted 4 and other Naughty Dog games average about 15 hours in length and are hailed as some of the best games of all time.

gold_drake1d 8h ago

said by the guy who probably had a high 6 figure income

Eonjay18h ago

He never made the comment. Welcome to the internet.

gold_drake17h ago

..have u watched the video at all?

welcome to the internet indeed.

Petebloodyonion1d 3h ago

The value of an $80 all-you-can-eat buffet is undeniable, making it curious why some people choose a $20 restaurant for a single, standard meal.

In a similar vein, movies, despite their higher production costs for a two-hour experience, outperform video games in revenue while also being priced around $20. Suggesting that video games need 100 hours of diluted gameplay to compete seems like a misdirection. The real solution might lie in re-evaluating how their core offering is valued.

Extermin8or3_22h ago

Individual movies yes, the movie industry as a whole? No, the movie industry is dwarfed by the behemoth in terms of revenue that gaming is.

DoubleYourDose14h ago

The $80 buffet and the $20 meal both come out the same end.

FACTUAL evidence1d 3h ago

Lol so rich people want to speak for my wallet now? I still haven’t adapted to 70$ yet, and not planing on to. I don’t mind waiting on sales.

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Square Enix is “aware” of Final Fantasy XIV player numbers dropping

Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu discusses the dropping player count of Final Fantasy XIV and the numerous projects of YoshiP.

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jznrpg3d ago

It’s really old now. All great MMOs decline.

PRIMORDUS2d ago

Also who wants to keep paying a monthly fee every month, there are other options like Guild Wars 2 😁with no monthly fee and while not that many people overall compared to FF XIV, it did increase to about 21 mil now.

Sephiroushin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I prefer to pay since i do not like guild wars and it keep kids away, but FF14 decreased on quality since they started to make it "more accessible", tried throne and liberty and while it was okay it has so many issues, same for dune awakening... Its time to start making a new FF MMO

kaewcha7342d ago

Looks like Square Enix is self-aware but still stuck in place, they see the player drop and apologize for the bugs, but nothing really changes. Shame, FFXIV used to be the gold standard

Servbot412d ago

My entire free company has stopped playing. The writing has consistently gotten worse and the content is sparse and lacking; unless you are a hardcore player there's very little for you to do. They are over-catering to the people who will grind three+ times a week on a single fight for multiple months when the playerbase by large doesn't want that sort of content. Square needs to dedicate more resources to the game instead of wasting them on mobile and other live service slop.

Miraak82 2d ago

The biggest factor for me is the way they butchered job design over the years , the casualization and over simplification really hurt a good chunk of enjoyment I used to have . Jobs lost any form of complexity and just became " press glowing button" DDR style for fighting where the gameplay loop is a about the 2 minute burst window . They removed most DoTS, timer mechanics , cast times, pets, RNG ect and all around homogenized everything . When you try and can cater to everyone ... you cater to no one .

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Dune: Awakening Composer Talks Giving Arrakis a Voice

Game Rant interviews Dune: Awakening composer Knut Avenstroup Haugen about his process for giving the harsh deserts of Arrakis a musical voice.

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