PS4 Pro's 4K Resolution Is Currently Unavailable for HDMI 1.4 Displays; No Official Word from Sony

PS4 Pro's 4K resolution 2160p@YUV420 mode is currently unavailable for HDMI 1.4 displays, forcing every user to stick with 1080p until it's fixed.

There's been no official comment from Sony yet, but many users are disappointed.

[KaiPow]

That's gotta be frustrating if you don't want to upgrade your TV AGAIN!

[Nitrowolf2]

That's the big issue with early adopters, they are essentially buying into something that is yet to be established.

I do think that the latest 4K TVs are a lot better especially with HDR support and that's why I ended up waiting a year before jumping on the train. Do know keep in mind, its still early.

[GNCFLYER]

Yep. Its why im still holding off a while. Probably tax time.

It just seems things aren't settled. We got TV needing firmware updates to work with pro. We got HDR 10 and Dolby fighting for the color format, hi lag.

I own a pro but I'll just wait a few months because when I buy a TV I expect it to last for a good 5 years.

[Omnislashver36]

That's why I'm sticking with my 1080p display for a little while. Vizio for instance has great HDR support with the M and P series but high input lag, same with LG's OLED displays. The only brand that's caught my eye this year is Samsung and even they're not great across the board(atleast for the display I want). Still got a PS4-Pro for some of the benefits though, but I'll wait until I can get what I want at a price I want before updating. CES 2017 is a month away and I'm hoping there's some new good models there to choose from.

[nitus10]

If you look at the HDMI specifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... version 1.4 only supports 4K@30fHz and not HDR. If you want 4K@60Hz with HDR then you need an HDMI 2.0 port (all PS4's have this since a recent update) and an HDMI 2.0 cable (essential) which the PS4 did not come with.

In addition, you also need a 4K TV that has a 2.0 HDMI in port as well as supporting HDR10 (for PS4, PS4pro and XB1s).

To all those who have waited I definitely think that was the best idea. I actually considered a 4K monitor with HDR and at the moment there are none until next year.

@GNCFLYER

Could not agree more. There would be nothing worse than purchasing a 4K display and finding out that it has a large lag and the wrong HDR support .

[fr0sty]

Nitus hit the nail on the head. 4K at 60p isn't possible over 1.4. A 4K TV with HDMI 1.4 was gimped out of the box, not the PS4 Pro.

[Psytrix]

@ OmnislashVer36

I would hardly consider the input lag of 34ms using HDR game mode on the LG OLED "High"

[Pikagreg]

Exactly! I picked up a 4k tv when my current LG died on me and HDR wasn't really a thing until right after I bought it lol.

[Omnislashver36]

@Psytrix

The LG OLED cycles between 35 and 60+ ms, it literally counts up to 60 and restarts again. It's totally a firmware issue they could fix though:
http://www.rtings.com/tv/re...

Here's a petition to stop the input lag cycling to LG. 3000+ signers, so you might be interested:
https://www.change.org/p/lg...

[Imp0ssibl3]

Damn right, I'd be really pissed if that happened to me.

[ccgr]

Agreed, I'm holding off for now.

[Ju]

Right. Because you all have 4K HDMI 1.4 TVs...

[Princess_Pilfer]

Then people should do research before they buy crap. If you bought a TV without doing that research, you deserved to have wasted that money. Sony should have made things clear, yes, but it's still on the buyer for not checking. HDMI 1.4 isn't sufficent for proper 4k gaming. It physically cannot do 4k/60 or 4k/30 (it caps at 4k/24.) It's not a PS4 Pro issue, it's a your dumb ass bought a sub-standard TV issue.

If you're thinking the low color depth that allows 4k to be technically possible through HDMI 1.4 is a saving grace, I have to ask what possible benefit you're getting from 4k anyways. If you're too far away to see the lower color depth, you're too far away to benefit from 4k.

[gigoran]

why so hostile?

[joshuapalm]

you can do 4K @ 30Hz at 4:4:4 or 4K 60Hz at 4:2:0. The colour space barely changes the image anyway.

[nitus10]

The saying "caveat emptor" or "buyer beware" still applies but when you get into technical matters for most people it is just too much.

[lnfiniteLoop]

1.4 supports 4K... 2.0 supports 4K and HDR... its the PS4 pro inability to currently support 1.4 4K...

[neoandrew]

Well you are wrong, hdmi 1.4 is just a standard, the cable i the same as hdmi 2.0, it entirely depends on the tv hardware if it will have the bandwidth needed for 4k 30 fps or not and in most cases it just works, the hardware have some spare power, so the extra 6 fps are not an issue at all in most cases, so if sony blocks it if they don't detect 2.0 then this is a shame and their fault.

And of top of that most ps4 pro games in 4k will be 30 fps, not 60, so they could just not blocking it, most would have no issues in using 4k 30 fps on hdmi 1.4 display.

[Kokyu]

1.4 only supports 8 to 10 but color too so its not true HDR compatible.

[LastCenturyRob]

In theory I agree with you but when has console gaming ever been about researching anything but the games you like to play?

[KillBill]

So Pirate what I am hearing from YOU is that those who bought their TVs prior to PS4 Pro came out should have known better than to buy something that a future device would support and then later patch and not support it?

Your idea that early adopters of 4K TVs should not be upset because they chose a TV that did not (in your eyes) live up to true 4K experience? And yet the exact same argument is that PS4 Pro also does not live up to others as true 4K experience and yet should be ok as a purchase for early adopters in the 4K console market? Seems like a bit of cherry picking on what is acceptable by you for early adoption and not.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Those with 1.4 HDMI on their TV's could always check to see if there's a manufacturer firmware update for their particular model.

[mozzie]

That's why I went with LG so I have Dolby Vision and HDR10. Anyway i think it's pretty much setteled that HDR10 will be the main HDR standard with both Xbox One S and PS4 Pro using HDR10 for their HDR games. Dolby Vision needs licensed Hardware parts in the TV so cheap 4K sets won't use it.

[XanderZane]

Looks like Sony updated the firmware with the update version 4.05 and it removed the support for HDMI 1.4 display. That's messed up. So now gamers have to still with 1080P and can't get 4K resolution unless they have a HDMI 2.0 version display. This should be a quick fix I would think.

[frostypants]

If you have a 4K TV that only supports HDMI 1.4, then any 4K content you watch on it will be stuck at 24fps. That's why not all 4K devices support it...it's a ridiculously boneheaded spec combo (and as such only a handful of very early 4K TV's made this mistake). It would be like selling a Porsche with a Toyota Corolla engine.

You really want to game at 24fps? If a dev releases a game that runs at less than 30, people go nuts.

[Christopher]

Technology is moving too fast and, IMHO, consols are embracing it too early now. 4k is still in its early days and we have consoles trying to support them with not nearly enough to warrant it. I'm sure some people are happy with their Pros and they'll be happy with their Scorpios, but I can't think we would have benefited more in delaying the focus on 2k/4k so that the tech could be solidified, standards implemented, and more power put into the hardware to enable a generational leap of power rather than a slight upgrade.

[metalgod88]

I'm thinking the same thing. By the time 4K really becomes a common every day thing like HDMI did, we'll already have moved on to the next set of consoles. I also think that the next set of consoles are going to be modular in design, much like a computer, so the customer can upgrade their machine as the part become available. However, I do know that Sony/Microsoft are very much against users customizing their systems, but with Sony/Microsoft now moving towards an upgraded hardware version of a previous console...maybe they'll change their opinion and allow customers to do this, as long as the makers have control as to what can actually be upgraded.

But at the same time.. remember how modular the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive was and horrible the modular design worked for them? Connections and Cables everywhere so ...Idk, we'll see what happens.

[NohansenBoy]

The Pro and Scorpio should be marketed at 1080p machines. I would also say 60FPS, but I'm not sure if the Pro can do 1080p 60FPS on a majority of titles.

I can only imagine what a mess the Pro is on the dev side since the CPU must bottleneck the heck out of the GPU.

[freshslicepizza]

i doubt we will ever see a focus on 60fps gameplay on consoles. most developers will always favor better graphics. i think there should be the option for all games on the midcycle systems though but again it's few and far between.

[GtBunnie]

60fps doesn't suit all games in my opinion. I prefer it on fighting and racing games, with 30fps on action/story based games.

[starchild]

Higher framerates are better on every type of game. Better controller response, less latency, improved temporal resolution (more clarity during movement). These things are always a good thing.

[Ju]

TBH, having the choice in some games, I rather prefer the higher resolution over the frame rate (like TR, inFamous...) and I don't have a 4K TV (here, yet). I tried switching back and forth a couple of times but this is IMO the best mode. It's simply the subtle pixel crawl is gone with higher resolution and I really tried hard to notice a difference between the highres/high detail vs 60fps (unlocked) mode, and I can't see (feel) the difference. The refresh rate in these games doesn't need to be 60fps, and well in shooters like TF2 or BF or CoD...those run 60fps primarily just fine.

[DMZ_P]

Killing Floor 2 runs fantastic on the Pro. 1800p at 60FPS does the job well.

[bluefox755]

60fps just isn't a big deal for most console gamers. If it were I think you'd see devs catering to those needs, but instead they are focusing on resolution and graphical fidelity. I think most gamers prefer better graphics at 30fps than they do lesser graphics at 60fps, with a few genre exceptions. I can't imagine developers doing the opposite of what the majority of gamers want, that doesn't sound like a great business plan. I understand there are some gamers out there where sub-60fps is a dealbreaker, and they simply cannot handle anything below. You gotta understand though, you're not part of the majority. It would be nice to have more options though, like a quality (graphics) and a performance (fps) at least for more games.

[LastCenturyRob]

The pro is a good console that will be able to do "some" games at 4k/30 the Scorpio will most likely be able to do "most" games at 4k/30 with some at 4k/60... No reason they shouldn't market what they are capable of doing. Personally I would prefer 1080p/1440p full/locked 60fps (or more) with all the graphics turned on max over 4k with with less fps and some graphic settings turned down, but that is just me.

[Drizzy]

4K should be the new standard,also 30fps on console is much nicer than 30fps on pc. Most of us have been gaming at 30fps or lower since the birth of consoles. Maybe it's just me but I'm fine with 4k 30 and if possible I'll take 4k 60. 1080p is good but it's old and going out of style for me personally real quick

[Alexious]

Agreed, 4K requires just too much computational power. Just look at Watch Dogs 2 on PC, only the Pascal-based Titan GPU can handle it at 4K and that's with their temporal filtering (kind of like checkerboard rendering), not native.

HDR is a bigger visual leap and it doesn't have any performance cost, that's what they should have focused on.

[Ju]

What has HDMI 1.4 vs. 2.0 to do with computational power???

[Drizzy]

Agree but also disagree,remember consoles are not pc. Ps4 pro was compared to a $900 gaming pc. Scorpio will do even better. I don't know how they do this because I'm not a hardware engineerer working on the next new console but I do know the pc comparisons are not practical and are never accurate consoles offer more bargain in power/hardware and lead in gaming communities there's a small fraction of pc gamers compared to console gamers. The greatest AAA games are created for consoles first and have less issues than there Pc counterpart 4k gaming is here and will be even better when Scorpio releases followed by whatever comes next.

[nitus10]

Technology moving too fast?

Most people do not have an understanding of technology not because it's moving so fast but because they can't be bothered learning. Just saying "I wan't aware" is not a good excuse since pretty much anyone who has a smart phone, tablet, laptop or desktop PC can get information that people living in the 1970's could only dream about.

As for standards, well they are normally ratified well before we see the commerialisation of them. We also have a patent system although lately that is being abused and no one in governement cares to fix it.

@metalgod88

What you mentioned is nothing new since it was postulated back in the 1980's, however from an engineering point of view it is not that simple since there are many factors in computer design that you need to take into account.

If you want to see what a modular design looks like look no futher than the humble desktop PC which is fully customisable. The problem with that is the modules used are dependent on the motherboard, the case, power suppy and the methods used to cool the system. Change the motherboard and all bets are off.

Using the Intell architecture as an example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... (no I don't expect you to read it) You need to get the right CPU module that will fit in the appropriate motherboard then you need to know if that motherboard supports DDR3 or DDR4 memory and what is the maximum memory you can use. You also need to know if air cooling is good enough or should you look at liquid cooling.

Yes it is possible to modularise components however you will also degarde the potential performance since you need extra space for what are called daughter borads and the appropriate space and cooling requirements that comes with them. Basically a nice non technical by comittee design that will be a nightmare and more expensive engineering design.

BTW. If you are interested in computing technology I can recommend the following web site: https://www.youtube.com/use... They are very informative and even though they can be difficult to follow for the complete novice they do try to keep their explanations fairly simple and entertaining.

I do recommend their intro to 8K gaming (yes it can play Crysis at 8K@54fps medium settings) which is very interesting and entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/wat... Actually we may see this in the next 2 to 5 years.

[Maxor]

It's industry standard that you need HDMI 2.0 for 4K HDR. Thats why the PRO is really for the select few with 2015 or later TV sets.

[ziggurcat]

HDMI 2.0a, actually...

[inStereo]

Correct - the "a" specifically indicates the HDR metadata channel.

[Epicor]

It's not quite that simple actually. It's all about the bitrate.

4k should be possible with HDMI 1.4. But then you would be stuck with standard colors and 30 fps.
If you want 4k + 60 fps you gotta have 2.0.
If you want 4k + 60fps and real HDR then you gotta have 2.0a.

All these different HDMI types have a maximum possible bitrate (Gbits / second) and this bitrate determines what kind of picture (resolution, fps, colors, 3D) and sound signals can be delivered. If I was buying a TV right now I would damn sure pick one that support 2.0a. Next year we'll mos likely see models that have 2.1.

[TankCrossing]

@Epicor almost. It isn't just bandwidth, HDMI 2.0 (and a) actually use a different signal type to HDMI 1.4.

That's why firmware updates to enable HDMI 2.0 on TVs and graphics cards from 2013/2014 never panned out, despite the clock rates and bandwidth being adequate.

[frostypants]

@Epicor "4k should be possible with HDMI 1.4. But then you would be stuck with standard colors and 30 fps. "

It's even worse than that. You'd be stuck at 24fps.

[joshuapalm]

It still worked with HDMI 1.4 screens until a few weeks ago

[Princess_Pilfer]

4k/60 is out of the cards for HDMI 1.4, it's just not possible. The PS4 Pro upscales the images to 4k internally, ergo it's sending a 4k/60 signal to the TV in several games, that would cause an error that simply prevented your TV from recieving a signal so it's disabled.

If you can see the difference between 1080p and 4k, you can *also* see the lower color depth, so you get a higher resolution view of just how bad low color depth looks. Cus that's desirable, apparently.

[blackblades]

Yeah, I'm waiting for 2017 models, hopefully there hdr, motion blur and etc.... be more improved for the 43" 4k tvs.

[Aurenar]

It seems that true 4k Gaming Is pc exclusive.

[Christopher]

PC gamers have experienced these sort of issues as well from one GPU to another and from one game to another.

[Princess_Pilfer]

No, we haven't. If you have an AMD R9 3XX or 9XX or better, and a moniter that supports either HDMI 2.0 or Display Port 1.2 or above, you can do 4k 60. (even if the card can't run it for some/most games)

If you have an AMD R9 2XX you have HDMI 1.4 and can still do 4k/30 and 4k/50 with display port. Even if it "doesn't show up" on some games, it's super easy to have a tool hack the drivers and force them to allow you to display at any resolution/framerate that you have the bandwidth for.

The real problem is, HDMI 1.4 doesn't do 4k/60. Like, it physically cannot. It *barely* does 4k/30 (and by that I mane it does 4k/24), tbh it's not worth the effort because (in my experience) trying comes with significant input lag. The PS4 pro internally upscales everything to 4k, and several of the upscaled games run at 4k/60, ergo HDMI 1.4 cannot display the image and it might not be a good experience even if it went 4k/30.

[yomfweeee]

@forum Just because there are hack workarounds...doesn't mean it hasn't been an issue.

[Princess_Pilfer]

@yomfweee
Just because some people are too ignorant to do research and know which cards and tvs can and cannot do 4k doesn't mean it;s a "problem." If you pay attention, you don't have the "problem." Cards and displays that can support it (IE display port 1.2 compliant or better and HDMI 2.0 compliant or better) don't have probelms magically not supporting it, and those that don't, don't. It's not a problem for people who bother to research anything before they buy their stiff.

You can even force it on cards that *aren't* compliant provided you're willing to take the framerate hit.

[OpenGL]

@Forum Pirate

The R9 390X and Fury X do not support HDMI 2.0, they only support HDMI 1.4. At the moment the only AMD cards out that support HDMI 2.0 are the RX 480, 470, and 460. Nvidia cards have had HDMI 2.0 support since the GTX 980 launched however.

[Christopher]

Forum Pirate, cards that have claimed 4k capability have had issues running 4k and many do not still support 2.0. The issue being discussed here is the exact same in that Pro was supporting 1.4, but now it isn't. It's not an issue of being able to support 4k, but knowing how it is supported in some TVs. Exactly how as a PC gamer you have to know what your GPU supports and can't just think you can buy a PC, hook it up, and if will work on every 4k TV or monitor out there as intended.

[frostypants]

@ Forum Pirate, so what you're saying is, if you happen to have the right hardware to play 4K on a PC, you won't have a problem playing 4K on PC? BRILLIANT! How's that any different than needing the right TV to display 4K from a console, again? I don't think you thought your argument all the way through.

Especially given that you just pointed out that you need a monitor with HDMI 2.0, which IS EXACTLY THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE PS4.

[InTheZoneAC]

I have 2160p - RGB enabled and it's never been an issue...

[Christopher]

It's an issue specific to a relatively small set of monitors/tvs. It won't affect everyone. Regardless if it only affects some people, it would still be nice if Sony put back in what they had at launch for those that had it taken away in the latest updates.

[jujunogo]

Yuv50 actually supposed to look better try that setting . The colors pop a little more for me but only if you have HDR

[DMZ_P]

best to leave it to auto for when you play an HDR game, because then it will use YUV420 or 422

[merciless]

I don't get how this is even an article. You need HDMI 2.0 to get 4K, That's an industry standard. You can't even get 4K Netflix on 1.4 so what's the issue here. Oh wait.

This is click bait!

[superchiller]

Exactly.

[Gamist2dot0]

Wonder if the complaints are coming from people who bought generic 4K tvs. You get what you paid for?

[InTheZoneAC]

people that had no idea they were never displaying 4k on their 4k tv LOL!!!!!!

[Corpser]

That's not true hdmi 1.4 can do 4k@30hz

[CP_Company]

1.4 can do 4k 30fps and 8bit color depth, and 2.0 can do 4k 60fps and 10bit 12bit color depths.

[inStereo]

From the official HDMI website:

"The HDMI 1.4 specification adds support for extremely high video resolutions that go far beyond today’s 1080p systems. 4K is shorthand for 4,000 lines wide by 2,000 lines high, or roughly four times the resolution of a 1080p display. The term actually covers two formats, both supported in the HDMI 1.4 specification"

http://www.hdmi.org/manufac...

[svoulis]

With HDMI 1.4 it will only support 4k@30hz. I mean honestly if you don't have a TV that supports that it seems that you should probably have looked into that kind of stuff before investing in a PS4 Pro. I don't see this as a fault of Sony, and I doubt there will be a real way to fix this aside from buying a TV or Monitor with HDMI 2.0 or better.

[joshuapalm]

Whats wrong with 4K @ 30Hz? Many games are capped at 30fps anyway.

This was working for HDMI 1.4 screens but sony removed it. How is that not their fault?

[kevnb]

It's never going to happen.

[jujunogo]

Get the Hisense H8c 4K HDR 10 with full array and local dimming for 399$ at Best Buy . While not 1000 nit brightness for official UHD certification 450nits is still good. I got one with my PS4 pro and it looks amazing 4K HDR. It's the most cost effective and future proof 4khdr tv out . Also has hdmi 2.0. Hisense owns sharp so they are not just a knock off. I did a lot of research input lag is good also. I just hate the fact people think they need 1000$ plus tvs when some don't even match or have the features of this future proof tv Even some Samsung and sony's.

[Gaming4Life1981]

I know that is frustrating for people with this issue. I love being a early adopter and before hdr my old 4k tv was great but on black friday i got a 65 inch samsung 4k hdr tv and now nothing else matters lol.

Im sure sony will clear this up fast but damn that sucks.

[superchiller]

Worthless clickbait article, don't bother to give this site the clicks.

[marloc_x]

Just got an updated television and I'm certain Microsoft has my back for a true 4K experience.

[superchiller]

So you finally dumped your Wii U? Great decision, it was a very poor console that completely failed to deliver even a half-decent gaming experience. I'm getting a 1tb XBox One S Battlefield 1 bundle for Christmas, looking forward to getting into the XBox One gaming ecosystem! Which XBox One bundle will you buy?

[Tussin187]

From my understanding, MS already has a 4k system. They have a commercial out for it and everything. You're behind times buddy. At least be a good fanboy if your going to troll.

[Silly gameAr]

@Tussin187

It is a coincidence that this came out after that article about MS doing false advertising for the X1 article doing ultra4k. Since you believe it, it seems like you're taking your own advice and being a good fanboy AND a troll, unless you're being sarcastic right now, and if s, bravo.

[marloc_x]

Haha..Wii U is still front and centre until Switch releases. Gonna leapfrog the X1 for Scorpio..😉

[superchiller]

How is the Wii U "front and centre" when it's basically a dead system? Nintendo has pulled the plug on it, they're not going to waste any more time with it. Better pick up an XB1 S asap so you'll have some good games to play while you wait, don't you think?

[Juiceid]

Well dang mine works just fine!

[blawren4]

Why r exactly is 2160 considered 4k?

Never mind

https://www.cnet.com/livefy...

[ultimize]

4K contents need HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2
It's not from Sony. It's contents requirement.
Don't be silly

[XStation4pio_Pro]

d'oh.

[Vystrel]

I have my PS4 Pro set to 1.4 HDCP only and I get 4k HDR 60 hz on Elder Scrolls Online.
Is this referring to 1.4 HDMI ports?

[Miacosa]

I think it needs to support hdcp 2.0 and above and hdmi 1.4 does not.

[Kokyu]

This is why I bought a new 4k LG tv before I bought a Ps4 Pro.

Edit: I see alot of people talking about how consoles are embracing tech too early. Here is a history lesson for you guys, they always have.

Gameboy had a print, camera and video cam attachements. The Atari 2600 had a third party service that sold a cart that expanded the consoles memory, it game crude wire frame 3d graphic, it also allowed downloadable games to be rented over the phone line and stored on the cart for a certain time frame, that company and tech became the base of AOL and the internet by the way. The Sega Saturn had a modem for online play, so did the dreamcast it also had a browser and the VMU so you could do some portable things with content from certain games. The NES came with all kinds of extra ports for futher expansions incase some tech caught on it allowed the NES to simple make an add on. Consoles have always embraced new and interesting technologies and hardware. That is to say nothing of the micro computers of the late 70, 80 and 90's.

[n1kki6]

Sigh, console gamers complaining again. 4k has always required 2.0 ports, even on pc. 1.4 only supports 4k at 24 frames per second. So in a nutshell people with crappy tvs are buying pro hardware and complining tht it doesnt work properly. Ok

[Christopher]

Read the article. The issue is that they removed 1.4 @ 4k/24fps support all together with updates but it had it at release. Now people who could view 4k content on their crappy TVs can only do 1080p.

[n1kki6]

Right, and they should have, because it's not a standard that is being used any more. If people want to be on the cutting edge this type of stuff happens. It's a known quantity that if you early adopt thing will deprecate and you will be left out. It's not on Sony to appease the moron customer in this instance. Their target market is not those 4k TV owners that haven't firmware updated their ports no matter how much they want it. If I buy a Corvette, and 4 years later a better corvette comes out that also has a super charger from a third party, that third party is not required to make the super charger work on my 4 year old corvette. It's just not how it works. Obviously not the direct case here. But console gamers didn't start caring and complaining about resolution and frame rates until the marketing told them that it was important.

And AGAIN, someone point me to a 4k TV that had 1.4 ports that are not firmware patchable to the 2.0 standard. I couldn't find one. The issue bandwidth for HDMI is a cable issue, not a port issue. The standard in which it gets the digital signal is not a problem. This is an article trying to point out something minute issue that happens in all technology. My old iphone don't play this game, patch it. My TV isn't as good, patch it. My refridgerator doesn't have a TV, patch it. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Want nicer stuff buy better stuff, can afford better stuff, then be smarted with the stuff that you buy, if 4k over 1.4 at 24 frames was something you really enjoyed then I'm sorry.

[BizarroUltraman]

I have a 1080p monitor but Ive been checking out 4K monitors and always look for ones with Hdmi 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. I believe maybe next yr they will roll out some HDR monitor but I bet it will be expensive and I dont want to wait to long to upgrade. There are already monitors that display 10 bit color. Maybe that helps somehow...

Stinks if you have a 4K and can only play in 1080p.

[jonivtec]

ONLY display port 1.3 and higher support 4k/60fps at 444 with 10 bit color.Hdmi 2.0a support 4k /60fps with 10 bit color at ycbr 4.2.2 only.

[n1kki6]

I also don't know if one 4K TV that doesn't have at least one HDMI 2.0 Port if you bought a 4K TV with only one point four points that's on you

[LastCenturyRob]

That sucks...don't own one but the console still is a good price for what you get but this needs to be properly addressed and fixed.

[n1kki6]

Why, all 4k TV's have at least one HDMI 2.0 port, and those that didn't had the hardware and were able to be ugraded via firmware? Their is no reason to have an HDMI 2.0 port on a non 4k TV, so I am not sure why 4k support on HDMI 1.4 is necessary for a console.

[n1kki6]

That was also a time when 4k tvs were 10k, I'm sure those that had the money for a $10k tv have already upgraded because the PS4 pro is obviously not the only thing they wanted 4k for given they adopted in year 1. Any 1.4a hdmi port was upgradable with firmware for this reason, and I still don't know of any 1.4 only 4k tvs.

Edit, just to be sure I googled 2013 and 2014 4k TV's all either had an hdmi 2.0 port or had upgradable 1.4a ports. Compaining about 4k on 1.4 hdmi ports is dumb and counterproductive to providing the best visuals.

[The_Sage]

As far as I understood, the TV itself has to be fed through HDMI 2.0 or higher for 4k anyway.

To the guy that disagreed... Want to explain what makes you do so.?

[SojournUK]

Official word from Sony...BUY A DECENT TV

[emerica2214]

Is there a reason why these TV's, with only HDMI 1.4, haven't been updated? I know Samsung updated all older 2015 TV's to HDMI 2.0a.

[Captain_Tom]

um. Duh?

[frostypants]

HDMI 1.4 can only handle 24fps at 4K. People expect games to support that?!

Besides, virtually all 4K televisions are HDMI 2.0....this effects almost no one. First gen 4K TV's with HDMI 1.4 were basically a broken spec. Early adopters, as is so often the case, got burned (unless they properly went in knowing these things).

[XXanderXX]

Apologies wrong article

[bars88]

Absolute clickbait, This is not up to Sony. HDMI 1.4 does not support 4k properly!

1.4 supports 4k up to 24hz, Great for movies, but not suited for gaming. Most games don't support 24hz at all!

[n1kki6]

What's more mind boggling is Wccftech posted this article, used to be a quality site now going the way of polygon for clicks. What's even ummer is the article is taking digital foundry out of context to bitch about something that is not a problem. Essentially 4k over hdmi 1.4 still works at 24hz refresh over ycbcr420 which is every freaking 4k monitor or TV on the market. WTF.