Here’s how PlayStation 4 sales stack up to the best-selling game consoles ever

The PlayStation 4 has already moved more units than the Super Nintendo.

[theXtReMe1]

So, if we have another 2-3 years... it should easily surpass the PS3, maybe knock on the Wiis door. Thats really good, considering that last gen systems lasted 10 years and are still selling. I am thinking we will see the PS5 in 2018. That gives Microsoft a year before Sony could release something much faster. At least, it would make great business sense for Sony to do so.

It will be a very interesting next couple of years. The winners: us gamers. Doesnt matter if youre a Sony or Microsoft supporter, these new machines will be amazing!

[crazychris4124]

PS5 in 2018 would mean a 5 year cycle, not going to happen. My money is on 2020 which means a 7 year cycle and is what we notmally get, last gen was an exception.

[NohansenBoy]

PS4 Pro should technically be considered a 9th gen gaming console anyway since Sony made it mostly to compete with PC and soon MS will release a console to enter the same market.

[bouzebbal]

i think 2018, but PS5 will coexist together with PS4.
PS4 structure is more flexible, we can at least see one more Pro iteration in 2018 if PS5 doesn't make it for fall 2018.
All i know is with all the games coming up i will be playing to at least 2020

[Liqu1d]

It'll be around a 6 year cycle imo, which is normal for Sony. PS1 was released in 1994 in Japan 1995 in NA/EU, PS2 2000, PS3 2006 in JP/NA 2007 in EU, PS4 was released in 2013 in NA/EU 2014 in Japan. Both PS1 and PS2 had around a 6 year cycle, PS3 was an exception.

[IamTylerDurden1]

2020 haha. Hell no. There is no way in hell it'll be more than 3 yrs until PS5. 2018 or 2019. 2020 gtfo. PS3 had an unusually long life cycle and it was 7 yrs. So u expect PS4 to be the same? With how fast tech is moving and with the simplistic x86 architecture?

The reason PS3 lasted so long was due to the cell processor. The cell was intricate proprietary tech and it yielded huge returns later in its life cycle bc it took developers years to properly figure it out. The PS4 is a different animal entirely. The PS4 was front loaded whereas the PS3 was back loaded. There is no way the PS4 has 4 yrs left. In 2-3 yrs PS5 will debut, especially with Scorpio on the market. You think Sony will allow MS to have the more powerful console for 3 yrs?

[Muzikguy]

I'm thinking closer to 2020. 2019 wouldn't surprise me either. This is why I believe the whole MS Scorpio is a bad idea. Yes they'll get a year or 2 head start, but then they'll be behind when PS5 releases. I can't imagine Scorpio would sell that much in a few years to warrant keeping it around. MS will probably abandon consoles altogether after that, or release a successor to Scorpio. That would be bad for consumers because the life of the console wouldn't be long at all.

Anyway, those are just some ideas I have of what might happen. Nothing set in stone and just my opinion so don't come at me like a rabid dog. And for those that probably won't see my point of view, keep your "fanboys" to yourself.

[GamerGT]

I'm thinking 6 year cycle. PS5 @ 2019. Another 3 year mid-cycle with PS5 Pro @ 2022. Just speculation though, who knows.

[Hard8times]

Nope

[Kokyu]

The average console cycle until last gen was 5-6 yrs so 2018-2019 is not that unlikely, the only reason last gens console cycles where so long was the global recession. Last gen was an outliner not the norm. The Ps5 will be annouce 2018 and release holiday 2019, until Ps4P was annouced I was pretty sure Ps5 was a 2017 annoucement and 2018 release. Regardless what anyone think its already been confirmed Sony is working on the next Playstation.

Liquid gets it why is it so hard for people to understand?

[starchild]

Yeah, if anything the release of the PS4 Pro and Scorpio refreshes will probably give the generation longer legs.

The PS4 is also doing very well and I'm not sure Sony would be in a hurry to end it too soon.

[Muzikguy]

@Kokyu

Sony has most likely been working on PS5 since this generation started. That's not really saying much considering. Not hard to understand. More like looking at the industry as a whole and understanding it. The Pro is most likely what Sony plans to help extend the generation. Why would they release it and then a new system so quickly afterwards?!

@starchild

I agree and think the same

[Themba76]

i agree with the 2020 thing makes perfect sense thats why they released the pro to tide us over till then

[jznrpg]

Yeah it would be early 2019 holiday , 2020 seems to be the sweetspot imo.

[FallenAngel1984]

Seems too soon. I expect PS5 to release only after PS4 sales start to drastically decline

[UltraNova]

Yeah the Pro just got released!

PS5 will be out in 2019, at the earliest and only, if by some miracle, the scorpio does a lot better than the Pro for a lot longer than 3 months in a row worldwide and not just in one or two countries.

[Master of Unlocking]

I agree 2018 is too soon, but while the sales of the PS4 declining will factor in Sony's decision to release the PS5, you know that with the direction they have decided to go, i.e. follow the high-end PC/4K route with the PS4 PRO, they're bound to work on that too. One of their goal with the PS5 can only be to have native 4K @ 60fps all across the board, even on the most graphically intensive games, and the problem is that the very very high-end PCs capable of that still cost an arm and a leg today, and there's no saying if the price of the different parts to accomplish that will have decreased enough in 2019, or even 2020, let alone in 2018, for Sony to assemble them and offer the PS5 at a commercially viable pricepoint.

[Movefasta1993]

ps5 in 2018???The pro will just start to take off during 2017/2018, i expect it to be revealed early 2020 and released late 2020.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Hell no.

[Goldby]

Sorry Move but the PS4 Pro isn't the console that started it all. it was the PS4. and that will not last 7 years at the rate we are going with games. 2018 at the latest is wehn ps5 wioll be announced/released.

But that doesn't mean the ps4pro is obsolete at that point and could still get support for another 5 years afterwards

[Lonnie18]

No no no buddy 2018 for ps5 is too early! lt will be late 2019 at the earliest and late 2020 at the latest...lol 2018...

[Muzikguy]

I think that would be too soon. In all honesty, I don't think Sony is worried too much about the Scorpio. They'll have a huge install base with their PS4 and I don't see Scorpio gaining much traction before the PS5 comes out. Sony can ride out the rest of the cycle with the PS4 and Pro delivering great games to a huge install base. No need to rush the end of the generation

[Segata]

Switch releases in 4 months. That's new hardware people are excited about. No matter what anyone says it is competition.

[yeahokwhatever]

I think its gonna flop pretty hard, TBH. As a parent, its way too pricey and fragile looking for me to even consider getting my kids. I'm getting them matching 3ds' instead. It's also way too slow and pointless for me, considering I have a PS4 Pro + PSVR. I don't think it will have the same casual appeal that made the Wii move units in the first place. It might do OK in the beginning, but there's no way that thing has legs.

[jznrpg]

Its theoretical competition, but if it competes or not is any body's guess at this point. The Wii was an anomaly , Nintendo hasn't been a competitorfor years. I hope they do well,but failing is just as possible

[IceKoldKilla]

PS5 in 2018? What kind of shit are you smoking? Can I have some?

[ARESWARLORD]

Sony is on fire

[CocoaBrother]

In my opinion, this would be a more interesting chart if handhelds were included since handhelds are considered gaming consoles

[FallenAngel1984]

This article is just focused on home consoles since the PS4 is one. Including handheld systems is unnecessary.

[Silly gameAr]

Not really.

[DashArrivals]

Does that mean my phone is a gaming console? I have lots of games on it, and I hold it in my hand when I play games on it.

[CocoaBrother]

Apples to oranges. Cell phones are designed for communicating with other people. Games are not the forefront for their existence; while handheld systems, such as the 3DS and Vita, are designed for gaming in mind first and foremost.

[WeAreLegion]

Where does the N-Gage come in?

[UltraNova]

@we are legion

History?

[2pacalypsenow]

Should we add phones then too?

[_-EDMIX-_]

.... or since it's a different Market you could just have a chart for Portables.

[Antnee534]

I don't think we will ever see a console surpass the ps2 just don't seem possible lol

[PhoenixUp]

I agree.

PS2 was already at 51.20 million sold by this point in its lifecycle.

https://web.archive.org/web...

PS4 sales would have to go into extreme overdrive if it hopes to outsell the reigning champ at the end of its lifecycle.

[PhoenixUp]

You don't seem to fully understand. Just to make it easy, here's a visual demonstration of what I'm talking about if you somehow happen to still be in doubt.

https://mobile.twitter.com/...

Up to the point before this current holiday season, PS4 was selling at a faster rate than PS2 since day one. Now even after the Black Friday weekend, to which Sony themselves reported that this was their most successful BF in PlayStation history, the PS4 is still falling behind PS2 sales in the same timeframe. You don't get much better than having your most successful Black Friday.

That much should tell you that the gap is going to continue to grow at a pretty fast rate. It's not just 1.2 million units to consider, it's the rate at which this gap will grow as each quarter goes by that you really have to comprehend. Even when PS4 does well this Christmas month, PS2 will still be ahead.

There's no doubt PS4 will continue to sell extremely well. However it's extremely unlikely it can somehow pull itself ahead of the rate PS2 sold in its lifecycle, especially with the current Japanese console market in a state of decline.

[PhoenixUp]

You honestly think PS2 didn't also have its own slew of killer app games in the same timeframe to keep its hardware sales consistently high?

Also what part of "even after receiving the most successful BF weekend in history, the PS4 is still selling slower than PS2 at the same point in its lifecycle" did you not understand?

[PhoenixUp]

Dude the PS4 started selling at a much faster rate than PS2 since it came out. The fact that it's now selling slower should tell you this isn't going to be a back and forth situation, especially after PS4 just came from having the brand's most successful Black Friday weekend ever.

You seem only look at that current number gap and not see the bigger picture. I'm telling you that the 1.2 million difference is only going to grow in future quarters, especially with PS4 needing to make up for the declining Japanese console market that the PS2 didn't have to deal with.

Seriously if the brand's most extremely successful Black Friday weekend couldn't keep PS4 ahead of PS2, idk how you can honestly think some other factor can do better than the most lucrative period of the entire year.

I didn't create the graph but I'm certain it's sold through numbers for PS1.

[buttcheeks]

But ps4 sale had a slowdown for a couple of months due to the pro announcement but since its release they are back up

[PhoenixUp]

@ butt

PS4 was already on track to fall behind PS2 before the announcement of the Pro even happened.

https://mobile.twitter.com/...

@ Chaise

Now you're just reaching for an excuse. Trying to bring up any shortages early on in PS4's lifecycle is pretty pointless when you realize Sony had already long since resolved the issue.

PS4 was still ahead of PS2 since day one, especially when you consider that PS2 was only available in Japan for seven months before it arrived in western markets while PS4 launched in western markets first. Yet despite the advantage of releasing first in North America and Europe, the PlayStation brand's two most successful markets, the PS4 eventually still fell behind PS2 going into its third full year on the market. There is no spinning these facts around.

I'll repeat this question again because you really don't seem to understand or just don't want to answer. If having the most successful Black Friday(the most lucrative time of the year) in the brand's entire history couldn't propel PS4 sales ahead of PS2 sales, what makes you think some other factor has a better chance at doing so?

[jwillj2k4]

both of you stop arguing and go buy another ps4.

[mocaak]

Those are shipped numbers, not sold. PS4 sold 50 mil units.

[_-EDMIX-_]

agreed it was also a different time in the market where Sony had so much market share before Microsoft really made a name for themselves.

[quent]

Wonder how well the SNES wouldv'e sold if the gaming industry was as big then as it is now

[PhoenixUp]

The gaming industry grew because of Sony's introduction to the hardware market. You obviously can't have both things happen concurrently

[CapitalGamerNZ]

I wonder how much it actually grew by versus existing gamers simply buying into the Sony echo system. Keep in mind when the PS1 hit the gaming scene that Amiga, Atari and Sega were still very much alive and kicking.

Be interesting to know how many console gamers there are actually out there and how that has changed from mid 90's through to today? Its not like there are 150 million people that owned a PS2; and how many PS2 owners also owned an Xbox 360?

[PhoenixUp]

Considering that PS1 alone sold more than every fourth gen console combined, it's pretty clear that the brand caused the demographic of gaming to grow exponentially.

[bamillington]

and one of the noisyest

[ILostMyMind]

So salty! So buthurt!

[bluefox755]

If yours is noisy, you need to clean it, mine is whisper quiet.

[NextGenCeo]

Couple days ago under the another news i just say something about Playstation 4 sales.

Base PS4 199$ and PS4 Pro 299$. If Sony keep price's low and keep support with First Party Studio games like Uncharted or Last Of Us or God Of War just name it, They can surpass Orijinal Playstation world wide sales number. I know it is hard to get PS2 sales record but they can achieve orijinal PS sales in next 3 years. But 300$ and over price they cannot be able to get 100 million sales next 3 years because Nintendo and Microsoft coming with new game console's on market next year.

(ESL guy here so sorry for English)

[DashArrivals]

I understood you. I bet Sony will drop the price of the PS4pro to $299 when the Scorpio comes out at the end of next year. But yes I agree with you.

[ILostMyMind]

You are totally right. I think that with the launch of the Switch and the "Scorpio" Sony should announce a price reduction.

[crazyclown]

I'm positive they will do a price drop soon before or after scorpio is released. This will cause huge demand for sony and only the hardcore will go for scorpio.

[TheOptimist]

Well not surprising, look at the total population of today versus when all of the others came out. But congratulations anyway

[P_Bomb]

A bigger population doesn't mean a console can't bomb. Wii-u launched at population's peak yet is Nintendo's worst selling home console ever going back 30 years. That's a pretty big "anyway".

[TheOptimist]

But a good console is supposed to sell more than a 2 gen old console at the same point in time

[Obelisk92]

World population has increased of ~20% since 2000, meaning that while PS2 sold 51.2 million consoles, the PS4 could have sold ~40 million consoles in the same time with the same population. Of course this is not a correct number but I think it's a fair one.

So, being 10 mil. under the best selling home console ever after 3 years of lifespawn I think is a really good achievement and it's plausible PS4 can reach 100 millions till the end of its lifecycle.

[Brugal]

Impressive. Most impressive.

[Fishy Fingers]

Remember when we pretended the Wii didn't exist so we could argue over who sold (slightly) more 360/PS3 monthly, like it mattered.

[PhoenixUp]

In th end the best selling Xbox console couldnt outsell the worst selling PlayStation console

[SilverDemon]

Damn..... never thought of it that way

And people think xbox have a chance to compete with PlayStation
No wonder MS are going after PC market

[ILostMyMind]

.

[MRMagoo123]

remember when people weren't completely off topic to try to draw the hypocrite card ......

[King_Lothric]

I think the life cycle of the Xbox one will end in a year and we will never know how much it sold because Microsoft is so embarrassed of it that it may never reveal its sales.

[ILostMyMind]

I guess Mirosoft will never end XBO but will allow developers to choose whether or not to produce exclusively for "Scorpio". Most will choose to produce for the two platforms for some time, due to the installed base of the XBO currently.

[GrimDragon]

Now your playing with power!

[yeahright2]

super power

[saimcheeda]

For all the PS3-Xbox 360 fanatics of last gen, the 86m-85m should provide closure!

[PhoenixUp]

Lmao all that fighting just for a 1 million unit gap.

Idk what anyone says, it was worth it

[SegaGamer]

No, it was sad and pathetic, just like this generations fanboy wars.

[lungoes]

But how many repurchased Xboxes cos of RROD.

[windblowsagain]

Had to laugh.

Source: Vgchartz

[P_Bomb]

Vgchartz, speak of the devil! I was just looking through the Guinness book of world records video game edition 2016, and their source for all their miscellaneous sales and charts stats in there all come from...vgchartz :0

Stats up to march 2015. I was shocked that's their source, especially considering how out of date most of the numbers are. Oi.

[yeahright2]

Their hindsight powers are actually pretty good. Just don't take anything current as fact.

[Errorist76]

they are pretty accurate most of the time actually...more unertracking than overtracking.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

There's no way in hell that the PS4 will out sell the PS2. With that being said, the PS4 sales are beyond impressive.

[Errorist76]

It's pretty much on track as of now.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

The PS2 pretty much ran that gen. It didn't have much competition coming from Sega MS or Nintendo. Things are different now. I seriously doubt the PS4 will surpass the PS2 but we shall see.

[MRMagoo123]

the ps4 doesn't have any competition this go around either

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

You sound ridiculous. Mobile gaming is eatting into PS4 sales and weather you want to accept it or not MS is taking a large portion of sales. Then you need to factor in the Switch which will also take a good number of sales. Sony will continue to dominate but to act as if Sony doesn't have competition is ridiculous. I mean if Sony had no competition can you imagine the features and games you would not have right now? Competition is good.

[curtis92]

TIL n64 only sold 33 mil... wow. Here I thought it was probably on the higher end of consoles sold.

[corroios]

The ps5 will come on winter of 2018. Because the usual cycle of consoles is over. By that time you will get a cheap pro and the new ps5 to choose from.

It will be easy for sony to launch 12 to 14 teraflop machine at 399 in 2018

[Errorist76]

delusional. 2019 maybe

[GrimmyReaper]

Oh I didn't realize you work for Sony. Tell me more

[corroios]

But i do. Drop mic

[ILostMyMind]

I guess you're right with the exception of the date. Maybe in 2019.

[Christopher]

I like how people are turning the current 7-year cycle into only a 5-year cycle.

2013 - PS4
2016 - Pro
2017 - PS5
2018 - PS5 XL
2018.5 - PS6
2018.75 - PS6.6

[DivineAssault]

It already passed up super nintendo so thats a really good sign but with mobile gaming growing i cant say it will surpass the PS2.. Who knows though? Xbox did make its mark and is growing in popularity in the US however, im sure PS4 will outsell it easily.. Competition is good though.. It makes devs create exclusive titles to the best of their ability..

[bluefox755]

Why isn't Xbox One on this list?

[Christopher]

Likely because Microsoft hasn't announced any figures recently. All we know is it's likely between 23m and 33m. That's a massive gap.

[Gman32]

not like the wiiu now thats a massive gap

[Christopher]

@Gman32: The gap I was referring to was the potential low and high end of Xbox One worldwide sales, not it in comparison to other consoles or how far ahead one is compared to another. Just that we have no clue where Xbox One sales sit.

[Gman32]

i think sony will not rush out the ps5 unless the ps4 sales start to decline besides they just put out a mid-gen upgrade ps4 pro so ps5 shouldnt be released til 2020

[glenisahat]

This doesn't look half bad for the PS4. Will easily surpass the PS3 in time to come. Sony must be glad.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

All I see is pure Sony domination

[BizarroUltraman]

Yeah I was just gonna say 4/10 top selling console in history. Not to shabby!

[Auron]

Wow not bad passing up the snes.

[Skankinruby]

Playstation has too much direct competition now, it didn't in the ps2 era which is why it was able to reach those insane numbers. If ps4 could manage to pass ps1 numbers that would be awesome.

[ILostMyMind]

I agree Just being compared to the PS2 is already a great achievement but I doubt it will reach PS2 in sales. XBO, Switch, smartphones and PC is a lot of competition.

[MRMagoo123]

PC apparently is not part of the competition that's why multiplats like quantum break are called "exclusives"

[ShadowKnight]

PS3 surpassed the Xbox 360 in sales and the 360 came out one year earlier 😅

[ILostMyMind]

In fact the PS3 sells more annually than the X360 since the launch of the PSSlim.

[sullynathan]

potentially surpass PS3 sales

[Relientk77]

I expect PS4 to sell at least 125 million units

[PiperMCFierceson]

Ps5 better be a beast. Or come with a $600 top of the line version from the start. I don't want no mid upgrade again. I love the pro but I feel ripped off, because I would have bought from the beginning preferably than dishing out another $400 for a bit more power, two years later.

[ILostMyMind]

Sony risked launching the PS3 with a "powerful" hardware and high price and the result was daunting. Historically it has been proven that the price factor is decisive for the success of a console. Expensive console does not sell. Cheap console becomes market leader. Sony's differential is the games and having the cheaper console at the beginning gave it the absolute lead so far this gen. Nintendo will face this same dilemma with their next console. If the Switch is expensive it will be a failure. But if it is cheap it will sell as well as the 3DS.

Suppose Sony launches the PS5 in late 2018 with powerful hardware. The entire PS5 game would run on Pro but not on PS4. Would you pay $ 600/700 for it or would you rather wait a year or two to get even more power for $ 400?

Many have complained but the "half-generation" is the best solution to circumvent the high price of hardware. You buy a good hardware for a good price now and in the future you can buy a better one if you want. It is an option, you are not required to purchase the Pro version of a console just as you do not have to buy the latest version of a newly released video card, since your previous version is satisfactory.

[PiperMCFierceson]

So you would rather pay $800 every two years on a system? Rather than be presented the option to opt for the high end model for the start? Also the PS3 $600 wasn't a graphical upgrade, it was just sd/USB slots and more memory. I wouldn't pay more for that, especially when you get it cheaper by installing it yourself, and buying the pieces from amazon. That's why the sysytem under preformed, along side a number of questionable decisions regarding hardware, release dates. If Sony presented a $600 machine that was decisively better i seriously doubt they'll have the same problem they did with the PS3. it really undermines the potential of sales when they released an upgrade that is current to the gen in segments. That's why they mixed the sales so it can look more appealing.

[Christopher]

*** Also the PS3 $600 wasn't a graphical upgrade, it was just sd/USB slots and more memory. I wouldn't pay more for that, especially when you get it cheaper by installing it yourself, and buying the pieces from amazon.***

Yes to the SD/USB slots, no to the memory. It had the PS1 BC chip that made it more expensive as well.

[FGHFGHFGH]

@ Christopher

It also had the ps2 emotion engine chip.

[PiperMCFierceson]

@christopher I agree but backwards compatibility is so overrated. I don't understand the infatuation with wanting to play your old games on a new system. I'm one of the few that would prefer cut that out and put the resources into making a better overall system. The way I see it is that if I really wanted to play my old games I would just play it on my old system. The pro release leaves people who can only afford one system per gen screwed. Instead of presenting the option from the beginning.

[ILostMyMind]

@PiperMCFierceson
"...would rather pay $800 every two years on a system?"

What?

I'd rather pay $ 300- per cicle cycle. And if there's money left over pay 300- for an updated version IF i really have interest.

[lungoes]

My guess for PS5: 2019/20. We will see another GTA on this generation, then Boom next gen and remaster ££££

[ILostMyMind]

Supposedly we will not have any more remasters since the new generation console will be backward compatible with the current ones due to the x86 / 64 standard of the processors.

[Tzuno]

PS2 had games, this gen has graphics, that's all.

[Imalwaysright]

Couldn't agree more. PS2 was the last great console.

[PurpHerbison]

No WiiU?

[PhoenixUp]

Note how the headline says best selling consoles

[PurpHerbison]

Lol, gets the joke, yet doesnt get the joke.

[timlot]

World population in 1985 (NES) release. 4.8 billion. World population 2013 (PS4) release. 7.1 billion. Over 2 billion more people on the planet now.

[Psygnosis333]

these are from China and India :)

[ColonelHugh]

NES was still being made until 1995 in North America, and 2003 in Japan. It was still available at retailers in Japan until 2008.

[WelkinCole]

I can see the PS4 passing the 100 million mark in its lifetime.

[DialgaMarine]

PS4 is going to sell 120 million units, lifetime. People who don't think it will outsell the Wii forget that the system has only been out for 3 years, and is just now seeing a noticeable price decrease, yet it has already passed the 50 million threshold. As more games like God of War, Spider-Man, and Death Stranding release, combined with further drops in price, PS4 will easily see that 120 million units. Next year is probably going to be it's peak year where it sells over 20 million for the year. It's already going to be at 55 million shipped before New Years. Plus, with Pro coming into the picture and increasing the lifetime of the hardware, that will help it's sales decline in 2018 and beyond be more smooth.

Also, not a chance in hell of there being a PS5 by 2018. That's too short, especially considering Pro being around and the PS4 being a sales beast regardless. I'd say late 2019 at the earliest for PS5.

[S2Killinit]

This is in only 3 years time. If you triple that to match how long the other consoles were in business, it would be 150 MILLION yo...

[Puertorock77]

I don't see why some have the view of a PS5 in 2018. The whole point of the console refresh is to extend the generation life cycle without the fatigue of still having launch consoles. Sony is not going to consistently pump out new consoles every 2 to 3 years. Pro will push this generation out for an extra 4 years and anyone with a launch console that is getting fatigued with dated hardware can buy a Pro.

As for console sales, amazing achievement on Sony's behalf. I honestly did not think we would ever see a generation with PS2 level domination and here we are seeing the PS4 raise the bar.

[darkluigi]

I really thought the Wii sold more units, it's crazy to see the PS1 has sold more than that tiny white box... Of course it did have the glorious FF7.

[ColonelHugh]

FF8, FF9, FF Tictacs, MGS, Twisted Metal series, tLoD, best versions of Tomb Raider series, Crash Bandicoot series, Spyro trilogy, all of the early Resident Evil games that were otherwise split to N64 or Saturn, the blessed GOLDEN AGE of JRPGs, Legacy of Kain...

I could continue, but I think it is obvious that no console should have to withstand the sudden onslaught that the PlayStation delivered to the competition. The Wii's casual base is the main thing that pushed its numbers that high, PlayStation did not have that luxury.

[tmisellati]

My money on that ps4 will sell more than the PS1 but less than the PS2.

[whitesoxfalife1976]

jesus fuckn christ why is everyone pushing for a PS5 so fast when the pro havent even been out like a whole month yet.
Some of ya'll PlayStation fans must not understand how sony does things.....As of right now R&D is going on that takes about a few years itself then comes the next few steps in the process,

As I said before this gen of consoles is just crazy ass hell. So now we have back to back off settings of console generation. Last gen we saw the first close to ten year cycle that both have said, and in this gen we witnessing mid gen cycle upgrades(slims from both dont count).

[WildArmed]

For this to have any value, really should have taken account into the sales numbers versus year from launch.
And, consider gamer population growth, even if you choose to exclude mobile gamers.

Would be a better representation of how the sales are stacking up against the previous gens champs.

[Avalanche]

so disgusted that the Wii is so high on this. what an utter piece of garbage.

[strayanalog]

Gaming is in a different landscape now than it was then, so this comes as no surprise. Now what would make this list interesting is a adjustment for inflation type list, except it's adjusted for how big the market is now for the older consoles. Movies have an inflation list, why not video games?

[driver4532]

ps5 = november 2019 not 2018 garunteed

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Where is 86 million PS3s coming from? Anybody have an official link?

[Smokingunz]

Damn xbox one is not even on the chart lol wow

[link2Dpast]

Don't get me wrong I own a PS4 but why it's selling so much is beyond me but the answer is pretty obvious. What Sony fell into is a gen of kids growing up and in need of the latest console , I easily see more Sony advertisement compared to Microsoft. I've had both but sold my x1 , there was just something I just didn't like about it, the interface stuff here and there. We all know it isn't selling because of there games because finally now there stuff coming but these past few years have been crap, why it's selling is beyond me

[Codedan]

Lol, this graph is based on the gaming community population of today which is probably 1000% greater than it was in the 1990s. PS4 is selling a lot if units, but we should have a ratio based on the population of "gamers" to the units sold. This would also include mobile devices.

[miffun]

i wonder how remastered games - crash etc - will boost the sales on ps 4

[Melankolis]

PS5's release date is a wait and see even for Sony. If PS4 and PS4Pro keep selling well even after the competition with Switch or Scorpio and 3rd party supports keep flowing, i think we should not expect PS5 very soon even after the PS4's lifecycle has gone to 5 years...
2018 - Impossible (that's why they make Pro...)
2019 - low to moderate probability (by that time, Pro's lifecycle will be 2 years...)
2020 - very high probability (with PS4 still getting quite strong supports from 1st and 3rd parties)

[Artemidorus]

Need to start closing down articles like these, no relevance to games.

[Tross]

Wow, and the PS4 is going to be around for a while so I'd be interested to see where it's at in a couple years, or heck, even next year.