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The new Xbox is in the right place at the wrong time

The Xbox One S is a fantastic replacement for the clunky original system, but the timing of its release raises the question: Who is this for?

PhoenixUp3148d ago

Considering that XBL's active users dropped by 2 million in the same quarter that the Xbox One S came out compared to the quarter prior, it's only logical to believe that predominately people who are already pre-existing Xbox One owners are buying this slim model as opposed to a slew of new consumers in general.

Automatic793147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

@Phoenix XBox Live active users dropped two million due to owners of the original Xbox 360 closing accounts. However, those numbers will rise as the holiday approaches'. You lose to gain. Natural progression. The numbers are still at an all time high. By the way winning npd means the complete opposite of your theory new customers are buying.

mhunterjr3147d ago

That's a wild assumption to make.

Xbox live usage is up 52% year over year since the S launched.

The S is likely working for some as an upgrade, but for most as an low cost entry point.

demonddel3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

You can say the same thing about people who's gonna buy the PS4 PRO

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demonddel3146d ago

@haydo I didn't say anything bad about the PS4 I just said just like people buying the 1S is people who already owns the original One it's the same with people buy the Pro they already owns the PS4

therealsasquatch3147d ago

It's the cheapest 4k Blu ray player on the market and it plays games. It's been selling really well. This is a click bait article.

BattleAxe3146d ago

"The new Xbox is in the right place at the wrong time"

And this is why it has out-sold the PS4 in the USA for the 4th straight month in a row.......

fanboysmackdown3147d ago

Another stupid article from an author who doesn't own a clue. If the S has outsold PS4 4 months in a row, how is this console out of place? And as far as aesthetics go, your opinion is yours and mine is both X1 consoles look better than the door wedge that is the ugly PS4 design. I own both console systems and enjoy both, but don't have a need for the S but it is a great intro system for someone with a 4k hdr tellie who wants a game machine also.

yomfweeee3147d ago

It hasn't outsold it any months.

fanboysmackdown3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

According to who, you? Maybe you should do some research.....4 months in a row in North America or maybe your Sony blinders hide the truth from you.

Ricegum3147d ago

Yep. It has still yet to outsell the PS4 at all.

yomfweeee3147d ago

Who has the blinders? Oh wow North America. Sony dominates worlswide EVERY MONTH,not even close.

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BizarroUltraman3147d ago

Who is it for? Ask the people that have been buying them. They have been the best selling console in a couple major territories few months now.

NoFanboyJustLovGames3147d ago

its for me someone who has a xbox one but wants a upgrade to 4k, better HDD better gpu numbers lower frame drop and a UHD player, and its smaller

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Micro Machines World Series PlayStation 4 Review: Stalled Nostalgia (WWG)

The Micro Machines racing games have been built on a mighty legacy of tiny racing. But the latest game in the series lacks the content -- and drive -- to keep it moving forward.

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5 Original Xbox Games That Should Be Backwards Compatible

Jerry from BagoGames says, "Some of the biggest news from E3 was that the Xbox One would soon be backwards compatible for Xbox games, these are 5 games we would like to see."

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MLGecko2910d ago

None... because BC simply a collection of games I have no interest in ever playing again. I can't even keep up with my new games coming out.

Make it a competent remaster or GTFO :)

jokerman272910d ago

Haha, I like remasters myself, but some of these games are my Pile of Shame, so I'd like to take them off while playing my Xbox One ;)

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LgbtWarrior2909d ago

I'm hoping for sudeki. Pretty good action rpg.

Timbo812909d ago

1) Def Jam: Fight for NY
2) Def Jam: Fight for NY
3) Def Jam: Fight for NY
4) Def Jam: Fight for NY
5) Def Jam: Fight for NY

Bonus Game: please remake/remaster Def Jam: Fight for NY

Jakens2909d ago

I gathered some requests from 35-original-xbox-games-we-hope -return-for-backwards-compatib i lity

Dec Jam: Fight For N.Y.
MechAssault
SW: Knights of The Old Republic 1+2, Rallysport Challenge, Jet Set Radio Future, TimeSplitters 2, Jade Empire, Pander Dragoon Orta, Ninja Gaiden Black, MechAssault 1+2, Conker, Gunvalkyrie,
Outrun 2,
2K5,
Jet Set Radio Future, Shenmue 2, Chase: Hollywood Stunt Driver, Advent Rising, Otogi, Pander Dragoon, Crimson Skies, MechAssault, Advent Rising, Fusion Frenzy, The Sims, The Sims Bustin Out, Urbz Sims in The City, The Sims 2, Morrowind, Indigo Prophecy, Time Splitters 2, SW: Knights of The Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Series, Brute Force, Jade Empire, Splinter Cell, Gunvalkyrie, Jet Set Radio Future, Battle Engine Aquila, RallySport, Yager, Otogi, Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders, Unreal Championship, Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance 1+2, Rainbow Six 3, Black Arrow, PGR2, Tao Feng: Fist of The Lotus, MechAssault, Fusion Frenzy, Splinter Cell quartet, Jade Empire, KPTOR 1+2, Ghost Recon Series including Island Thunder + both Summit Strikes, NFL 2K5, Full Spectrum Warrior, PGR, The Suffering, NFS: U, NFS: U2, Shenmue 2, Psychonauts, Steel Battalion, Far Cry Instincts, Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath, Fable: The Lost Chapters, The Prince of Persia Series, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, Burnout 2, Burnout 3, GTA,

DragoonsScaleLegends2909d ago

Midtown Madness 3, True Crime Streets of L.A., Malice, and Tony Hawk's Underground 1+2 for me.

no_more_heroes2909d ago

Give me Psychonauts or give me death!

Also Otogi 2...

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Middle-Earth Shadow of War - Xbox One X Load Times Are Drastically Reduced Compared To Xbox One

One of the most anticipated games for this year is Middle-Earth: Shadow of War, the sequel to Monolith’s 2014 fresh take on the Lord of the Rings universe. The game is also being billed as one of the flagship titles for Microsoft’s Xbox One X, which will be the most powerful console ever made when it releases- presumably because it will leverage all that power, and put it to some good use.

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KingKionic 2916d ago

"The guys who have the X, the biggest thing about it is the load times. On the normal Xbox dev kit, it will take us a few minutes to load one of our worlds. It’s pretty big and takes a while to rev up. The X loads in a few seconds. So that’s a big deal if you’re trying to iterate quickly to get more cycles on something.”

Thats quite a improvement.

Bring on da X.

Bigpappy2916d ago

That's is more amazing than many may want to acknowledge. This game is loading 4K with required assets, like textures and effects.

ABizzel12916d ago

Improved loading is always welcome, especially in games that have notorious load times.

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tyasia02916d ago

This has got to be massive exaggeration. Lets be honest guys, when was the last time you played any game that took "minutes" to load?

I believe that X is faster but that it takes minutes on the Xbone and only seconds on the X I mean give me a break. either the Xbone version is the most poorly optimized piece of crap or this guy is blowing smoke.

annoyedgamer2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

Last game that took minutes to load was MX vs ATV off road on the PSP. Good times even if I could grow a full beard in the loading time.

aconnellan2915d ago

GTA V is pretty notorious for its loading times, which goes beyond seconds and into minutes.

We will have to wait and see, but it's not unprecedented for a game to take minutes to load

DragonbornZ2915d ago

GTA V, Fallout 4, ME Andromeda. Destiny and Mad Max as well I think.

Kiwi662915d ago

So you've never had a game that takes awhile to load as there are some that do

tyasia02915d ago

O.k. now you guys are just making stuff up or Xbone is more inferior than I thought. I know for a fact that on PS4 FO4 and MEA don't take minutes to load ever, and GTA5 only takes a long time to load into multiplayer and that's due to it's poor networking interface. Loading things in singleplayer doesn't take a minute.

Krysis2915d ago

Witcher 3, just cause 3, gta v, should I carry on?

Kiwi662915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

Homefront The Revolution is one that takes awhile to load

DragonbornZ2915d ago

Well I do have around 50 mods installed on FO4. It's not like 5 or 10 min, but like 1-2 sometimes. You are right with ME: Andromeda tho now that I think about it. Only the initial loading into the story just takes a few min in my case.

@Krysis I forgot about TW3, but haven't played since around launch. Been trying to play though 1 and 2.

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freshslicepizza2916d ago (Edited 2916d ago )

All games will be improved on the Xbox One X in 5 ways.

1. Smoother performance and no screen-tearing
2. Maximum possible resolution on dynamic titles
3. Improved texture filtering
4. Xbox One X GameDVR support
5. Faster loading

The engineers at Microsoft deserve credit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

nitus102915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

I won't deny that the designers of the XB1x have done a very good job but you also have to remember that Microsoft can't afford to get over 20 million original XB1 owners offside since all games made for the XB1 have to work on all iterations of that console.

You are also looking at a significant price and performance differential between the XB1 and the XB1x (approx $200 to $300 USD and 1.3Tflops to 6Tflops differentials) compared to the $80 to $100 USD and 1.84Tflops to 4.2Tflops differentials between the PS4 and the PS4pro.

As for faster loading, the XB1x is using SATA3 (same as PS4pro) which has a maximum 600MB/sec throughput compared to SATA2 (300MB/sec) of the PS4 and XB1, however, loading is also dependent on the storage device being used with the generic 5400 rpm hard disk having an approximate (depends on brand) read speed of 80MB/sec to 100+MB/sec. Better performing disks such as a 7200rpm HDD will have 20% better performance and an SSD (average read is 500MB/sec and write is 480MB/sec) is so much faster again and this will definitely benefit from the faster bus.

The downside of an SSD compared to an HHD is the fact that it is three to five times more expensive. Still, if you have the money go for it.

All the other features you have mentioned are possible but allot depends on the game developers.

freshslicepizza2915d ago

Those features I mentioned is the hardware based level which will automatically improve games. What is dependant on the game developers is how far they want to push those games such as 4k and other graphical enhancements.

The usable ram is also significantly increased going from 5GB to 9GB

XiNatsuDragnel2916d ago

Good Job on the X, incredible differences.

Gh05t2916d ago (Edited 2916d ago )

I wish he would have been more specific. He is talking about Dev kits which we know has 4 different settings, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, and full Dev Kit. I want to know the difference between the Xbox One S and Xbox One X load times.

He just said Normal Xbox One dev kits and Xbox One X Dev kit which means they could be using the 24GB of memory rather than the Xbox One X setting which will limit it.

Making this sound way better than it truly will be from a consumer point of view. The headline doesnt mention dev kit and so it all feels misrepresented.

Dont get me wrong I am not saying the game wont load faster but to me this isnt presented in a way that is realistic to real world scenarios, without being more clear.

UnHoly_One2916d ago

I think it is just poor word choice.

Why would he compare a maxed out Dev Kit to a real product?

Yes he was using the Dev Kit, but I am reasonably certain he was talking about what it is like on both consumer versions of the console.

zerocarnage2916d ago

I think he knew what he was talking about and knew what he and the Dev team was doing before he made the comments he has.

Some people just don't want to say yeah man this X1X is shaping up nice and the developers are speaking truth because there actually developing while we are not, they are experiencing this all themselfs. It's like people keep trying to say developers are lieing mostly because they have a fan love for one of the other consoles they own and don't want to see the X1X do well.

Gh05t2915d ago

Yeah, you missed my point completely, but good for you calling me out for being a Sony fanboy. Really nailed me on that one. You know whats worse, fanboys calling anyone who asks questions about the console they like fanboys...

I am not saying HE is lying, I am saying I wish there was a follow up question to make clear what setting the Xbox One X dev kit was running at. And since that question was not asked and his original quote can be taken in different ways its premature to jump to conclusions.

You make us Xbox owners look bad.

shiva12915d ago

@ Gh05t

The follow up question should actually be "what are the load times of pro, ps4 and xbox one and s compared to X".

ichdich2916d ago

Good Job on the X, incredible differences.

4Sh0w2915d ago

No, no, no XiNatsuDragnel said that already.

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