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Ryan Takes Issue with PSVR Games Being "Incomplete", Says Value Proposition Is Extremely Attractive

PS UK boss Jim Ryan refuses the notion that some PlayStation VR games are incomplete just because they're shorter. He then added that PSVR's value proposition is "extremely attractive".

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odderz3175d ago

They're not incomplete, but VR games won't resemble standard games for a while yet, IMO. Eventually, though, for sure.

S2Killinit3175d ago

Thing is, Im having a way better time playing these VR games than i can remember in recent memory, its super new and super exciting. A novel way of gaming, we been asking for it for ages. As to lenght, I just wanna have fun. If its shorter, and its cheaper then i dont mind at all. Besides the lenghtier games, are already coming so no worries there either.

Aurenar3175d ago

Will the novelty wear off, though? It's too early to tell. But the problem with VR is that longer games may be a problem as playing in VR requires a lot more fatigue.

S2Killinit3175d ago

I dont think so. Its not the novelty of it being "new" its the novelty of how it opens up completely new feelings. Brand new immersive experiences that were not possible before are now achievable. I see this only getting better.

ArchangelMike3175d ago

You've got to play Thumper in VR. That game was a revelation in how VR can completely transform an experience. You're right, it's the potential if done right, that's amazing. Even Until Dawn, Rush of Blood really surprised me. The only thing I take issue with PSVR right now is the resolution. Man Sony need to sort that out, I'm now certain that's what the PSPro is for.

Jaw1love3175d ago

lol this is the same dude that said he won't buy Gears of War 4 cuz he heard the campaign was only 6 hours long. You are such a clown dude.

ninsigma3175d ago

I just played the thumper demo and I loved it. Now I want to buy it. I would never buy something like that normally buy vr just adds a whole new dimension to it. It adds more to things that we normally would have skipped, bringing us back to just enjoying some really cool game play without getting bogged down by AAA standards. I still love my AAA but what the vr is offering me is refreshing and it is just pure enjoyment that is often lacking in games today. Those of us playing psvr right now know that the standard of the vr games are not up there with normal games and that's probably why we're enjoying them more. Instead of picking something apart to use as a check box when we go back on line to sites like n4g, we're just letting ourselves enjoy the experiences and have some fun with it. That's just my opinion though.

freshslicepizza3175d ago

Wii sports was also super fun as it too was a new way to play

fr0sty3175d ago

VR is best enjoyed in 30-60 minute sessions anyway. Longer than that and you just get tired of wearing something. That doesn't mean that during that time you aren't being blown away by the experience. My only real gripe with Sony's PSVR strategy is the uneven game pricing. $60 for battle zone? Whereas Rigs, a much more polished experience, is $50. Driveclub VR is $40. Rez is $30, whereas others like Thumper, an equally impressive title IMO, is $20. The prices are all over the place and aren't always justified.

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zombiewombie3175d ago

Have you played Playroom VR? It has a mini game which plays like a platformer and it's awesome. I can see a new ratchet and clank using vr like that mini game.

ninsigma3175d ago

Yes my thoughts exactly! I played that last night and I was like " ok so this really COULD work with third person games". It's great!

pcz3175d ago

VR is just a gimmick.

its just like the wii, at first everyone gets all excited, then after the smoke clears you realise what you actually have is degraded games which are basically glorified tech demos.

there may be one or two games in the products lifetime that will be worthwhile owning, and justify the existence of the vr.

wii had skyward sword.

what will the psvr have?

McErono3175d ago (Edited 3175d ago )

I'm in VR since Oculus Rift DK1... three years... I played the Wii for about a month. Not even the same galaxy.

S2Killinit3175d ago (Edited 3175d ago )

@pcz
You are just a gimmick. A jelly gimmick.

2600Thunder3175d ago (Edited 3175d ago )

That's a fallacy. Just because other new ways of playing failed doesn't mean that ALL failed. PS VR is also off to an amazing start for a newly launched system and technology for gaming.

Every new tech, if used creatively and effectively can be industry changing. The 3ds was dying its first year until Mario 3d Land utilized the 3d "gimmick" for GAMEPLAY. Everyone regurgitated each other's opinion that it would fail, that it would never compare to regular potables, and that one single Mario game propelled it to record breaking sales that year. Obviously more devs jumped on it after. So just because some other 3d tech failed doesn't mean all failed or will continue to fail. Someone just needs to make the tech useful and interesting for gaming.

That same success can happen with PS VR too if people would only stop criticizing for a minute, stop being lazy, and go try it rather than spewing the same vomit of their favorite loud, know-it-all youtubers and edgy streamers (who also haven't tried it).

Give it a good try. Check out a bunch of demos. Then you can make an informed, educated decision. This isn't replacing regular games but supplementing our choices.

Chevalier3175d ago

Who knows what the future holds. But right now they need the support, to build a foundation for VR games. It's too soon to tell. It's like looking back at PS1 games and seeing how much things have improved/progressed over time. If no one supports VR then what reason do publishers/developers for advancing their tech?

fr0sty3175d ago

OP is obviously someone who has never tried VR. Screaming-in-your-face obvious.

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Aenea3174d ago

Mobile phones are just a gimmick, smartphones are just a gimmick, the internet is a gimmick, computers at home is just a gimmick, videogames are just a gimmick... This is stuff that has been said in the past too...

It's okay that you don't see it yet, many people have that with new technology, yes, sometimes they are right, sometimes they are not. We have to wait and see.

Though, honestly I feel the VR we have now is just the beginning, this will evolve into the new way of videogaming in the future!

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Timesplitter143175d ago (Edited 3175d ago )

They won't EVER resemble standard games, because it's not even the same medium. It's like asking when will movies resemble games or vice-versa

VR isn't just a different kind of screen; it's an entirely different take on game design as a whole. If people expect VR games to be like Uncharted one day, they clearly don't have any experience with VR. A third person shooter game in VR would just be a trainwreck of game design

McErono3175d ago

so you never played luckys tale or any thirdperson game? anything can and will work in VR.

Timesplitter143175d ago (Edited 3175d ago )

@McErono
Yes, I played Lucky's Tale. And my opinion is that those little experiments in VR game design won't stand the test of time. The incoherence was very obvious and frustrating.

Right now some people think "hey I like this" when they play a 3rd person VR game, but once the novelty of VR wears off, people will start to realize these third person games actually weren't at all suitable for VR, and it was just the wow factor of VR itself that they liked

The only kind of 3rd person that would work well for VR is if your camera isn't following your character at all, but rather you'd be like a giant person watching the game "board" from high up, as if you were looking at a table where the game took place.

And if you're the kind of person that only listens to your one true god Sony, then why don't you go look up the multiple GDC/VRDC talks Sony people gave that said precisely what I just said? They advise devs to not try to shoehorn conventional game mechanics into VR (mostly player/camera movement), because that's just a recipe for disaster

cyber_daemonx3174d ago (Edited 3174d ago )

Lol @moldy downplaying as usual. Like Wii Sports eh? insinuating is that its a fad and it wont last. Psvr is getting a lot of positivity and it must really burn.

Stay salty.

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ccgr3175d ago

I don't mind shorter games if they're not expensive

NukaCola3175d ago

This ^^^

I am good with inexpensive experiences. And I'm also healthy minded about paying full price for a whole experience with a larger game like Resident Evil 7 for example. I do like that VR fits into different pricing where some games or experiences are 10 to $20 for free. Rigs is only $50 but that is a really awesome full fleshed-out experience with multiplayer. I really like that TV programs like Discovery Channel and such are bringing virtual reality into the house and when we start getting to sit there at the presidential debates, concerts, the Vatican for the Pope's sepaches, the UN, museums or traveling to space, I am going to flip. People that have disabilities can I ride roller coasters, skydive, scuba dive. A person with no arms can ride a motorcycle now. VR is really using video games as the testing grounds for something greater like the future of Skype in science and education. Right now we're at the beginning stages of the future in to buy into VR is not about just supporting Sony or Microsoft or Oculus or Facebook or whatever, it's about supporting a new piece of technology that's going to connect the world in a way that we've never experienced. And it will change again and there will be mixed realities and eventually robots will take over in the planets doing but until then lol we will continue to move forward. Plus you gotta admit Resident Evil 7 it's going to be freaking awesome

peewee110163175d ago

100% peopel who are complaining like this article.. The damn thing JUST GAME OUT. This is new tech and new way to game. What di you think we were going to get a damn elder scrolls or something. -.- i am fine with RIGS. and until dawn rush of blood i am enjoying the HELL OUT OF BOTH.

Chris_Wray3175d ago

I'm certainly interested in the VR. Shorter games aren't an issue and people need to stop judging on length alone. A long, bad game, isn't worth the money - simple as. A short, great game, is worth it. Look at games like Firewatch, short but fantastic. So long as they're not priced an insane amount it's irrelevant.

Imp0ssibl33175d ago

That much is true, but can you imagine playing The Witcher 3, which is over a hundred hours of content including DLCs, with VR devices that get you motion sick or dizzy after 30 minutes? I don't.

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Aenea3174d ago

Right now with the current tech? No, not really.

But this is just a stepping stone for VR tech we will have in the future that will be able to do just that. As light as regular (prescription or sun) glasses, perfect tracking, without motion sickness for everyone. Once that happens it might become THE way to play games...

Cy3175d ago

I agree totally about short games not automatically being bad, but the thing is with VR you're not just paying 20 dollars for a 5 hour game. You're paying 400+ dollars for a VR headset, camera, and move controllers to be able to buy 5 hour games that may or may not make you sick. As it is right now, VR needs to do more to be worth the price of admission, on PC and console both.

Cy3175d ago

Most games are still in the tech demo phase, where there's really no point to them other than to show off that PSVR works--with mixed results, considering all the motion sickness reports on certain games. VR on PCs hasn't even shown that it's a worthwhile investment yet. PSVR has a long way to go before it's anything more than just another peripheral fad that will die out in a few years.

FunAndGun3175d ago

strongly disagree. The point of gaming is to have fun, and PSVR is incredibly fun.

Aurenar3175d ago

I do agree that VR will be a fad and die out in a few years. It's just not ready yet, no matter how badly Sony, Oculus (Facebook) and HTC(Valve) want otherwise. Microsoft is the smartest one not to waste time creating hardware for something that will just lose to 4K HDR technology.

kraenk123175d ago

You clearly haven't tried it yet. I've watched dozens of people on YouTube and all are having a blast.

ftwrthtx3175d ago

75% shovelware, but the remaining 25% are pretty good.

UCForce3175d ago

Really ? Are you going to follow gamesradar site ? But other sites didn't have any problems with it. So yeah, you better reconsider that.

ftwrthtx3175d ago

I follow my own opinion, not someone else's.

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Hitoshi Sakimoto Celebrates 40 Years Of Game Composing With A Streaming Collection

The legendary composer celebrates forty years of game composing with a new collection.

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The 7 Most Violent VR Games That Push the Limits of Virtual Combat

Looking to release some of that anger? Here's the 7 most violent VR games you can play on your headset today!

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OtterX2d ago

Lol, maybe I'm becoming an old fart, but excessive violence in VR seems to bother me more than in flat games. Feels more visceral when you're looking a person in the eyes before mutilating them.

By no means am I trying to be a prude and saying these games shouldn't exist. I just play them more sparingly, need more breaks. I need some beautiful, refreshing & relaxing VR experiences too to balance them out so I don't feel so heavy.

Babadook72d ago

I’m an old fart too. I couldn’t believe how violent saints and sinners was.

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Yoshida claims PS believes Xbox is their only competitor, truth is they don’t have one any more

Former PlayStation boss Shuhei Yoshida claims PlayStation still believes Xbox is their only true competitor, not Nintendo.

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Terry_B5d ago

True, they have pretty different audiences..and some People just have both at home or a PS and a PC that emulates more or less everything from Nintendo.

Knightofelemia5d ago

Xbox hasn't been a competitor since the XB360. Last generation and this generation Sony has been running circles around Xbox. As for Sony vs Nintendo Sony runs circles yes but I don't really see Nintendo as competition. Nintendo does their own thing and it works.

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Lightning775d ago

Details are important. Console sales yes. Overall games Xbox seems to be doing fairly well in that department.

LoveSpuds4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

MS were doing so well that they had to start selling their games on their main competitors system which in turn results in around 30% of each sale going to Sony as the platform holder.

I do think tjat MS' fortunes will improve now that they are actually selling games rather than giving them away for pennies on the dollar.

Something that occurs to me is that the more success MS published games have elsewhere, the more stark it will become that selling games is much more profitable than renting them. If that becomes highly noticable, I wonder what the shareholders (who ultimately run the show) will make of a service which has stagnated for years?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

PlayStation doesn't compete with third party games, they compete on consoles. They profit from third party games. If you're not comparing consoles there's no point in comparing.

drivxr5d ago

Console wars are over.

Eventually, everyone else will catch up to this fact.

attilayavuzer5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think it's all PS fans have left at this point. Console wars were always a competition for fourth place behind Nintendo, PC and mobile. If Xbox evaporates into a hybrid virtual platform, then PS will be perennially left in last place.

Christopher5d ago

Strange, I recall all those FCC documents and witness testimonies saying the exact opposite... Guess Microsoft doesn't know what it's talking about?

PanicMechanic4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Great analysis. Just joking.

Pretending like companies give a f about where they “rank” against each other is just super retarded. This isn’t the World Cup.

Tell me, how does “PC” compete against a brand like PlayStation? It just doesn’t make sense at all. What you just said, is complete and utter nonsense

BlaqMagiq14d ago

I don't think PS cares about being in this so-called "last place" you came up with when they're making profits hand over fist.

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Destiny10805d ago

microsoft wanted to crush sony into dust and they had the money to do it, but with such weak leadership it was always going to fail

Reaper22_5d ago

Had the money? They still have the money but the industry has changed since xbox 360. Microsoft is the number one publisher in gaming. I'd hardly call that failing.

IRetrouk5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The industry hasn't changed though, just ms, Microsoft was the no1 publisher for a month in december 2024, the actual no1 for fy2024 was tencent if game sales are all that's being counted.

Profchaos5d ago

Money doesn't mean you'll be successful large corporations have entered and failed before like Nec

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