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4K Console Games – Why The Sudden Push? | Ask RGT 85

The PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio are ushering in the era of home console 4K console games, but is this push needed already? Is 1080P fully explored? Are there enough 4K TV owners to warrant this? RGT 85 shares his thoughts.

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andresegr3199d ago

Console makers have to compete with everything they can, even with tech that rational people knows will be impossible for this generation from both sides.

Nvidia GTX 1080 can barely hit 60fps at 4K with a few titles, that is paired with an i7 processor and 16GB of Ram.

We are talking about a 700$ GPU.

If you think that a 400$ console will achieve equal or more, then you are just delusional.

sammarshall1023199d ago

You're not considering all of the variables though

1. Consoles are better optimized
2. It won't be max settings so 4K should be achievable

Project Scorpio 1st party titles are going to be visual candy

andresegr3199d ago

Im considering facts, not hopes and dreams.

1. If a 11TF GPU cant handle 4K at 60fps properly, a 6TF much less. It doesnt matter how optimized the game is, unless it is something like Minecraft.
2. A 1080p game with maxed settings looks better than a 4K with low settings.

Finally, Microsoft 1st Party games are not known to be impressive graphically, unless you are counting 3rd Party Exclusives as 1st Party games of course.

Ryse looks better than Halo 5 and the upcoming Gears of War 4.

If i were you i would keep my expectations in check with the Scorpio. Not only because the console is more than a year away which makes the waiting more exhausting, but because Microsoft 1st Party developers have not managed to squeeze all the power from the vanilla Xbox One, let alone a Spec Sheet in the Scorpio.

Errorist763199d ago

Those Scorpio first party titles you speak of...who develops them, and when?! Just asking because Microsoft just decided to start development on the Scorpio when they realised Sony for 3 years had been secretly working on an mid-cycle upgrade to support VR and 4K/HDR.

sammarshall1023199d ago (Edited 3199d ago )

This generation's obsession with resolution started it

And from that observation, Microsoft created a beast for next year

Errorist763199d ago

So you created several accounts to upvote yourself?! How lame

BossBattle3199d ago

4K tvs are becoming the standard.

SquidBuck3199d ago

lol I know like 1 person with a 4k tv.

BossBattle3199d ago

That's you but I know more. 4K tvs are cheap now.

Mithan3199d ago

It is a waste of time. I would of prefered a kick ass 1080p system with a great 4k upscaller than all this useless crap we are getting. Sad.

It just shows the general state of the console crowd too I guess, that doesn't understand anything about graphics quality and thinks resolution is the only thing that matters.

EpicSandwich3199d ago

Ps4 and xbox one are 1080 systems. You want them then don't upgrade.

mogwaii3199d ago

Well sony for one have a vested interest in selling 4k tellies but all the current models have horrendous input lag when running games at 4k with hdr. Im quite happy with my 5 year old 1080p telly until oled prices come down and 4k lag comes down.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer2h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30002h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer1h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger50m ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster300023m ago(Edited 22m ago)

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

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Tacoboto1h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing691h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif12m ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

-Foxtrot1h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast48m ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts40m ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto1m ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

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dveio55m ago(Edited 52m ago)

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

anast36m ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay13m ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

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Nintendo Switch 2 review. Is it enough of an upgrade?

Two weeks in, Nintendo Switch 2 feels faster, smoother, and sturdier. But is it enough of an upgrade?

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anast41m ago

It doesn't matter. Nintendo plays by different rules. They are still reskinning games from the 80s.