Sony's new PS4 Pro leverages a brand new beefy Polaris GPU, but the console is missing the other half of the hardware equation: a CPU overhaul.
As such, the PS4 Pro's Polaris GPU will likely be bottlenecked by its lower-end 8-core Jaguar CPU even with overclocking, which means developers will have to make sacrifices across the board when upscaling PS4 games to 4K and enhancing them in 1080p.
We take a look at why Sony made this decision, how Polaris GPUs are specifically designed to be complemented by Zen CPUs in SoC and APU form, and how the console's outdated CPU will affect PS4 Pro's 4K and enhanced 1080p games.
Sony has been reported to be considering adding adaptive difficulty to all of its games. This feature would likely allow gamers to play more difficult games that usually have a skilled player barrier and also make it so hardcore gamers can get a good experience out of typically easier games.
I don't see an issue. I'm also sure it'd be an option that you could turn off to.
It should be optional but it would be more interesting to see gamers play more advanced AI. It's been a request since the beginning that NPCs and bots were more intelligent and tougher and not be stupid cannon fodder. This AI I'm guessing will adapt to the player. Which is cool. If the gamer sucks, the AI will suck. If the gamer is a bad ass, the AI will kick some ass and take names.
Based on GT7 Sophy, AI will definitely give gamers a run for their money.
sure
but I also don't ever want a case of playing a game I want to be hard, but then it get's easier because I die too much and removes that option
if it's 100% optional, I'm all for it
even ai adapting I'm not against
just any crap like, "you died too much so boss will suck to let you win easier" crap
Yeah like everyone said, it should be optional. Sometimes I like to relax from the competitive mp and play a single player that's challenging but in a predictable way. I'll probably use it at times but sometimes I just want to have a soldier yell grenade 5 seconds before he throws it at you in perfect English.
I don't have a problem with it. A number of games do this already depending on your playstyle.
If you can turn it off? Sure. If it's forced, no it's a terrible idea. Imagine wanting a tougher experience but because you die a few times the game lowers the difficulty. That kind of defeats the purpose of the harder difficulty.
A new ad for the PS VR2 sees Sony asking fans if "busting" makes them "feel good," leading to a lot of jokes online.
First it was the 19" of venom and now this 😂. Who's in charge of Sony's marketing team? lol
Aww...snowflakes...too much for y'all to handle?
I remember a time when people weren't offended by this type of advertising.
Don't forget your helmet if going outside.
@sickindividual
I’m thinking how people these days would react to an ad showing an old lady asking “Where’s the beef?!”
@raWfodog
Ads these days be so lewd. Like there's this one had on tv about internet speed saying "I need some of that big gig energy in my life" then sip on some tea with the Look while garage door slowly goes down. I'm not new to it at all cause theres been plenty over the years
@blackblades
We use to laugh at the ‘naughty’ ads back in the days but people today get so offended at the suggestion of sex in ads. It’s a different world.
Nah, it sounds like a reference to Ghostbusters. That was the first thing that sprung to mind.
"Oh, Uh... There was a ghost! Uh-uh-uh... This is ectoplasm! Did you see the ghost? It ran through here and s-- it slimed me! That wasn't me it was a spooky ghost!"
It feels good whether you're in the mood or not.
The thing is, bustin' chooses you. You never know when it'll show up.
.... and just to be clear, we're talking about ghostbusting. 🙄
According to Sony, changes to the launch dates of a "portion of first-party titles" impacted the company's profitability.
We barely know anything coming from Sony. It's all very quiet. Whatever they are doing they are playing it very differently to how they usually do it. For the people who aren't massively into superheros, it's a bit dry at the moment on the exclusive front.
I don't know why people are disagreeing, we only know of Spider-Man and Wolverine. We don't have any official announcement of anything else. It's been quiet for an unusual amount of time for PlayStation.
Exactly why I got an xbox , starfield is way more intriguing then Spiderman 2. I'm not really into the superhero stuff. To this day I say my favorite ones were the ultimate alliance games. Spiderman 1 was pretty cool but I doesn't excite me like a starfield or rpg. I'm more excited for store ocean 2 remake then Spiderman 2. My ps5 will have some really deserved cool off time once starfield releases.
Crazy thing is that they've been eerily quiet on the Sony front. Like to the point where the let loose a few announcements just to tide us over. But we still have no idea the mountain of stuff that's on the way and being worked on. And to think its been this way since a large majority of gamers complained a few years ago, that Sony showed too much in advanced. And since then, they've held on super tight. Its never been this way.
Am i the only one who is excited for Helldivers 2? I think it looks super fun.
https://youtube.com/watch?v...
@Hedstrom
I'm low key interested for the Starship Troopers vibe, unfortunately I couldn't get any friends to play the first game with me.
Ps5 lack of 1st party games is really showing 3 years into this gen and it's been pretty bad! All we have to look forward to is GOAS
Lol funny xbox has had a last of 1st party for over 5-6 years now yal lcoming out saying its a problem for PS but did not once during those 6 years LOL xbox kids down bad but i get bros been last place for over a decade LOL
Sony's got some ballers in it's arsenal of games. I'd argue way better quality and quantity than Microsoft's got but neither are particularly amazing.
Im a bit underwhelmed by this entire gen on both fronts tbh. Lack of any sort of quality DLSS competitor on AMD's side of things really affected both of these consoles to an extreme and really kinda forced me to switch to PC this gen, which is where i've mostly just been playing older games anyway. I sold my Series X and just use the PS5 for the exclusives and multiplayer stuff with my friends. I kinda wish the entire concept of consoles would go away with how this gen is going. Subscription service wars, microtransactions, paid online which is still insane to me, flat out stupid game pricing with very little in the way of actual upgraded game concepts beyond graphics settings bump ups, practically completely unsupported borderline scam accessories like the PSVR2 and dumb nonsense like the PSVR1 requiring a separate camera than the PS5 Camera. Hell we only just recently even got basic amenities like 1440p and Dolby Atmos over on PS5, and Atmos is almost unusable on the Series consoles.
The software experience and the hardware's all hella disappointing tbh and Insomniac Games is really the only company i can think of pushing the hardware to an extreme at the moment, with their SSD craziness in Ratchet and Spiderman 2, 60FPS RT and 40FPS modes, 3D audio, crazy impressive animation and post processing effects and clear benefits to the actual games. Mad props to them man
Series S/X didn't have a single first party exclusive game for the first 2 years of their lives... yet certain folks were curiously quiet about that...
Why in high heavens is everything about Xbox vs PS5 in here?
It is an article about the PS5.
Xbox's first party output has been garbage for over a decade, no one cares.
Playstation's known upcoming offerings is probably the driest it has ever been in three generations and these kids only care about "hurrr durrrr but but Xbox has even less games!11!!!!"
I don't care about Xbox, I bought a Playstation to play next generation exclusives and that HAS been lacking this gen and the future really isn't looking too bright.
Surprise! Here comes the but but the other system... Dude just accept it for what it is. You can't keep covering for these companies like they care about you. They'll screw you over every chance they get, just to grab your $$$. The sooner you stop protecting that piece of plastic the sooner you can see things as a consumer and demand better.
I've been pretty disappointed with PS this gen, I haven't even felt much of a need to invest in a PS5 yet.
I really miss those really great games, especially JRPGs, which is why I'm happy to help fund games on Kickstarter like Armed Fantasia, 100 Heroes, Penny Blood... I'm still on the fence about whether I'll help out with Ratatan yet, Sony just isn't helping fund these games or giving them the support to thrive on their console this gen.
You call yourself final fantasy fanatic and yet you see no reason to invest in ps5, despite two of the best games in the series being released this year for it?
We got so many games coming out this year, why even complain? Many games are making their target release date. Sony got some VR games as well coming and a horror survival game this month for PS5
Yes Fort Solis PS5 console exclusive, and Daymare 1994 all this month! Horror survival or Survival horror you know what I mean 😆 you can Google all this info like I did. PS5 also has Spiderman 2 we obviously know coming October and HellDivers 2! For the 2 people that disagree needs to do a Google search! This year is stacked with games already.
Chasing the live service genre is a huge gamble. If they get one hit that's on par with today's heavy hitters, then the investment will be worth it 100x. But history tells us that a huge % of these titles fail - even ones from established studios with AAA budgets.
Over the last two generations, Sony have excelled in making brilliant cinematic single player games. Those games helped them to be the number 1 publisher for both revenue and profits and by quite some distance. Hopefully the lack of releases recently isn't a sign of the business pivoting to a completely different model because frankly, that'll suck. The current model is both commercially and critically successfully so it doesn't need changing on a whim just to chase the GaaS big bucks! #prayforplaystation
Agreed I really hope they don't pivot too much into GaaS and have a balanced approach with lots of single player story driven games mixed in.
Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name.
They have to pivot. With MS buying up everything they can't be reliant on the revenue brought in by 3rd party games anymore and that's what they use to fund alot of these 1st party games. So now they need a successful gaas game to bring in that extra cash flow to fund more 1st party games.
"Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name."
And yet Playstation releases SP games regularly and Goty ones too. What's the last Goty Xbox game?! Oh right nothing AAA Goty in how many years?! Lol.
Don't get me wrong Xbox has some SP games on the way, but, so far not consistently and no Goty contenders that come close to Playstation.
I'd argue that Hi-Fi Rush is a solid candidate for GOTY. That was a good-ass game.
That's about it though lol
Hopefully that means a packed 2024.
I'm mostly surprised that we still don't even know what their major studios are up to. Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog (single player), Bluepoint, Team Asobi, Media Molecule....
I kinda get it. These games take forever to develop and Sony's been announcing games much closer to their release dates these days which I think is smart.
Asobi and Media Molecule though, yeah - been a real long while. I still really do think Dreams is salvageable if Sony put in an ounce of effort. Could even be a huge system-seller with a rebrand, ad campaign, pc release, and maybe even a free version of the "Play" mode with ads that could pay creators. The general public doesn't even know Dreams exists and i think anybody that does know it exists would entirely approve of pushing it in any new way
No Sh+t Louise, Delaying a game to the next quarter means that we won't have the profit of that game this quarter like we budget last year!
I'm Glad we have a complete article on the main page explaining these important things.
"why Sony made this decision" ... so that in 2-3 years time they can release another console with marked improvements and sell for full price.. that's why
Zen isn't coming out in 2017 it's been pushed back to 2018 so Microsoft will have to go down a different route if they want to keep the 2017 release date.
I think personally they will go for the Puma cpu a step up from jaguar they just cannot have a jaguar cpu in a 6tf machine.
It's just pointless and will bottleneck and you will not get the best out of it.
With the evidence the jaguar cpu is stopping fps that's why 60fps has been so hard to hit this gen unless you dramatically lower the visuals down.
For eg bloodborne, justcause 3 really bad fps and Uncharted 4 mp does 60 but it looks like a completely different game than in single player.
Let's hope Sony knew this and at the end of the day the ps4 pro isn't out yet and we don't know 100% what sony have done. Mark Cerney said 7 modified alterations to the GPU.
What game that has impressed me is bf1 they have got some good tech at dice they hit 900p at 60fps and it still looks incredible.
Could? It already does.
A lot of fanboys here hope for a delay of the zen cpu. Since amd doesn't stated anything like that im still except the first cpus for q1. Zen and the raven ridge apus will come 2017. Ms will order a custom variant of one of them.
It could.
Not sure how much it will matter. This is an optional upgrade, its not its own generation or market. I'm not sure most will care as if all games get a 1080p 60fps feature and a 4k 30fps mode, not sure many will REALLY care that it could have been slightly better, its made to be BETTER then PS4, not to be a PS5. So I would say the power in Pro or even Scorpio isn't really THAT important as its not the base, its merely the sku used to upgrade performance from the base.
PS4 Pro and Scorpio is for performance ABOVE XONE and PS4, sorry folks but once you go past those specs, your are sorta getting diminishing returns. I'm not honesty sure how the upgrades would be THAT much better considering they still have to have a base on PS4 and XONE.
ie running Half Life 1 on a HD 5770, doesn't mean that when I get a GTX 1080 vs a HD 5970 that the difference will be HUGE between them lol. Remember where the base is folks and why Pro and Scorpio exist in the first place. The difference will be there yes, but after a point, I don't think its just going to turn a game into real life...